Thanks Bert! Yeah I think for me the Fusion are very close to the Axe, probably flying a little better for me than the K-Flex but that could just be because I am more used to the bigger flight :)
I like moulded flights I’ve used L style for a few years, just got some k flights and they fly well to be fair and no damage after about 28 hours use. Nice comparison Daz.
Yeah I have used them for a lot of years now. K-Flex are not bad but I think my darts are flying a bit better with the Axe and Fusions so far. Cheers! :)
I find it amazing how the flight systems for proper darts are going to the single molded ones used in the absolute cheapest darts available when I was growing up (a long time ago). There were definitely some weird ones back then. When I pulled my old kit out from mothballs, I found stems that had wires at the end where you inserted the flights. I settled into using the Cosmo fit flights/stems, simply because they’re so easy to change out. The ‘normal’ stems have the issue that it’s hard to get the flights in sometimes. Of these three, I think the Winmau set look the best. I might have to give them a try. Thanks a lot for the work you put in testing everything out. By the way, I’m from the US, but whenever I look at darts stuff, I’m always looking at UK channels and start using terms like ‘proper’. ‘kit’, and ‘brilliant’. When in Rome…
I have been using them for years now, for main reason like you said its a lot easier to change but with the ones before the Axe they would break often so the price was a little off putting overall. I used the Zero stress for a long while but the Axe lasted very well for me so love those, remains to be seen still if the K-Flex and Fusion last as long and soon we will have the new L-Style Fantom flights to test :) LOL lots of U.S. viewers and members on the forum at Darts Nutz, I use words like Awesome more these days too! :)
A Must try... Thnx for the review. Just for info sake... playing the kflex for a while now... the flights got alot of chips in (Peaces broke off) Condor x much durable... So Im gonna get me a set of these to try,,, just love the solid systems... Like the more flex in the fusions...
Would like to try some of these moulded ones, but i'm also a sucker for looks and cool designs so... unless they add those i'll stick with the normal stuff :D
Getting back into darts after decades of not playing. I have a set of orange medium and used them for a few months now, they are holding up well. I am not a great player but have based them up a few times. One thing I have noticed is the top of the flight is starting to wear, time will tell if they will crack break or damage. I really like them and I want to try different sizes to see what suits me. Really enjoying the channel, thanks.
I totally get, that the all-in-one systems are lighter, but to me that seems to be primarily the stem part. The flight part, seems heavier, thicker, and perhaps "draggier." 🤷♂️
Thanks for testing these . I think the Condors stem looks more aerodynamic myself , I am no wing designer or anything , but it seems to me that there would be less changes in air flow along the Condor's central column without the 'waisted' shape of the other two designs . There again maybe the waisted designs would allow more flexing when impacts occur and that flexibility would help reduce deflections of in coming darts . Who knows ? Only Darren can test them all ! Best of luck mate . On the whole , without having actually used any of the flights tested of course lol , I like the look of the Condors , but they are pricey mind , so I reckon I would go of the K flights ..... could be well of the mark. What bothers my miserly mind is that all these one piece flight system and their cost is that I would have to buy a bloody new carrying case in addition to the ruddy flights ! Mind you I need a new case anyway !
I think aero dynamics in regards to shape of stem probably has less of an affect than flight shape over such a short throwing distance but maybe it only takes a tiny affect to make a change that is better or worse for a person's throw which is why ultimately you need to try them to see if they work or not. In darts I don't think a most perfect aero dynamic barrel and setup guarantees it will work better for you 😊
Thanks for the review, matey. I am a huge fan of both the K flex and the Axe; I use a 28mm (intermediate). I will certainly give the Fusion a try just because, but I would be surprised if I liked them more than the K flex or Axe.
Its all about finding what works for you really, they may be better or worse but ultimately you will need to find that out. So far for me I think the Axe are still best but need to spend more time with the Fusion yet :)
Great review Dazza. I have just started using the Condor Neon in yellow (love them because they actually appear green - go team green!) so will give these a go as well. PS: How is Rocky? Haven't seen him for a while :-) 🐕
Nice video! Recently bought a pair of kflex and so far i'm having alot of issues (Bouncers) I'll just stick with my condors, but i might give these a try!
Thanks! Yeah I have had a few more deflections with the K-Flex but its why I tell people they need to find out what suits them best, others have said they have had less deflections with the K-Flex, so its all down to how we throw I guess :)
its all about what suits you best but I also find some brands stems/flights/all in ones work better with some darts than others, like my Cuesoul Tero+ they really suit my Predators but the Condor Axe worked great with my Target Extreme Sprint and Unicorn Balista :)
Thanks mate! Well its really all about finding what suits you best. I hated the Unicorn Slik Stiks which were very bendy but some people swore they were the best ever stems?
@@leonsandmann2590 I liked the Clic a lot but my problem with them was my darts kept getting stuck in the little window on the flight and they would rip at that spot.
Personally I prefer the k flex is that it is a number 6 size…. Which is the size of flight I use……… but mr condor must be having a clutcher!!! His legal team will be on overdrive!!!!!
You may want to have a look at the Cuesoul Rost T19s, these are my current favourite integrated set, and definitely compete well against the others in this video (but are pretty expensive by comparison)
@@DartsReviewChannel found the T19 review from 11 months ago, but now with the recent releases of the K-Flex and Winmau Fusion, plus the Condor Axe, might be worth a side by side comparison of all four, just to see how they fair against each other. Would also be a chance for some of the follow up videos that you keep promising ;)
@@anoldgamer9119 There is a new version out but the reason they are not included is the Rost are not using the same kind of material as the Axe, Kflex and Fusion :)
Bought these last week and, within the first thirty minutes, two wings shattered off of one of the flights after deflecting to the floor. They look great, but I think they may be too rigid. Hopefully just my set.
I read that the headline said Winmau Frustrated flight and shaft review😄 I really shouldnt watch RU-vid tired and crosseyed😂 Edit: nice 180 with very cute Rocky celebration🥰
Well it is for you but its not better "full stop". I dont think there is ever such a thing as best with things like darts equipment as people have such varied throws and likes, what works well for one does not work so well for another. What is it that you like best about the K-Flex compared to the others?
I am very disappointed with the Winmau Fusion flights. I had one crack on me after a few games of cricket and 1 bounce out. I've been using the Condor Axe fights every since the came out and NEVER had one crack or break. Yes a few nicks and scratches which is to be expected but NO breaks or cracks. Condor Axe flights are more expensive but they are worth it.
Yep, bought a set just before Christmas, haven't thrown them much but cracked a fin last night (I was using Target Swiss Storm points too, to protect the flights). Disappointed!
yes probably the most rear grippers don't touch the stem. I do. i hold my thumb btw. the transition form stem and barrel. so for me the shape and material of the shaft is very important. I think of pdc players who might touch or hold partially at the stem
Another great review I have the Condor Zero Stress and Axe flights as well as the K-Flex and waiting on my order for the Fusion flights. So far i like the Axe system best they are durable and last a long time foe me I have a couple sets that I have been using for about 2 years now and another that is about 18 months old now and been using them on my match dats so getting well used, And still almost mint, I think they only have one chip out of one of the wings and a few scratches. But in great condition and still very usable condition after about 18 months of use. Can you tell me if the Fusions are a standard size or a Shape or small standard size? Compared to the K-Flex and Axe standard and small sizes? How doe the wing sizes compare? CHEERS!! & SHOOT E'm STRAIT!!!
Thanks! I think the measurements are in the video, Winmaus standards are a little different as is most brands, but seems closer to others no 2 standards
@@DartsReviewChannel I got my Fusion flights yesterday and they seem to be working well My darts are flying great and all landing near flat in the board just the way I like them to. My first shot with them was very interesting the darts grouped together very well, and they all clattered of each other as they went into the board. the darts did not deflect they seemed to get sucked in together all in the T1 But the grouping was amazing. I continued to throw to get used to the new flights and did manage a 180 a little later I will be using the fusion flights on my match darts and see how durable they are Winmau claims that the Fusions are lasting there pros a good long time in testing. so far so good I am really liking the Fusion flights system. We will see if they last as long as the Condor AXE. Thanks again for your detailed review of the Fusion flights system from Winmau Your reviews are always very detailed and provide as much information about the products as possible Keep up the Great work. The only problem is that it gets expensive seeing all these great darts and products then wanting them and eventually buying them $$ DANG IT!! CHEERS!!!
@@KiteBear LOL yeah it is getting expensive these days, was not so bad a few years back. Thanks for the update, sounds like they are working well for you so far, hopefully they will last as well as the Axe :)
@@DartsReviewChannel I took my new fusion flights to my League tonight we had a singles tournament. I was using my 2 day old Fusion flights and I had a bounce out and the dart landed on the carpet mat and then bounced onto the Terrazzo floor and one of the wings on my flight snapped. Luckily I bought 3 sets and had a 2nd set of darts with Fusion flights on them so I switched to my 2nd set of match darts. and continued and came in 2d in the tournament tonight. So a happy darter but bummed about the durability of these Fusion flights so far. I have 2 of my other Fusion flights with tiny chips on the wings. But I rely like them other than this broken flight. I have a set of AXE flights that is still in great shape and they are 2 years old. I think the K-Flex are also suspect for durability 2 of my K-Flex flights have a couple tiny cracks or chips out of the side of the wings. Thanks again for all of your great reviews. CHEETS & SHOOT E'm STRAIT!!!
@@KiteBear Thats not so good, I know my Axe are still fine after I reviewed them over 2 years ago, longest lasting flights I have ever had. My K-Flex are still ok but I doubt they are going to last as long as the Axe, I am still early days with the Fusions yet, so will see :)
as I said in video its early days, too early to say, if they last as long as the Axe then they are just as good and possibly better as they are cheaper. Also as mentioned in video the features of each is going to be different to the individual of whether its better or worse, for the short time I have tried them, I like them better than the K-Flex and they seem very similar to the Axe, so just remains to be seen if they last as long, my Axe are still good after 2 years though :)
Yeah I seen your reply on Facebook and commented on there. Hopefully its just a one off but will need to hear from many people to be sure yet. What size shaft was it?
@@jmeirish ah yes as @derekwren4104 said, I forgot DC dont stock Winmau any more. Try Double Top Darts or Premier Darts or Darts GB, I think the Red Dragon site sell them also :)
Think they are for me too, think the Fusion are also, could just be down to flight size though so will have to wait to test the Target K-Flex NO 2 standards :)
