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BTCC, WRC, WTC, World RX, these are some of the series Mountune and their team’s engines have conquered, let’s get an insight into how.
While 600HP might not seem like a large output these days, like WRC engines World RX (Rallycross) builds are limited by a 45mm air restrictor leaving the teams to focus on getting as much power and torque as possible on tap at lower RPMs. David Mountain of Mountune runs us through some of the considerations and figures that go into this, including ensuring the engine stays sealed with up to 250 Bar (3626 Psi) of cylinder pressure which helps produce 850N-m low in the rev range.
Interestingly after trying many different sealing techniques including Coopers, Wills and BreyuimmrRings Mountune has found MLS cylinder-head gaskets to be best for the task, These MLS gaskets are not from your local parts supplier and instead are produced by ElringKlinger to Mountunes specifications.
The turbochargers used are also motorsport specific Garrett TR30R units which do not need to fit OEM rules and regulations enabling the use of lighter and thinner materials. Again these units are built to the specifications required for the application/engine to give the best performance. While such options are not cheap, David notes that during the Group A rally days where regulations dictated the use of OEM turbochargers, it was not uncommon to carry replacements in the car to use at the end of each day.
Also discussed is the anti-lag system employed on engines for Rally and Rallycross applications including some of the evolution to where things are at today, the oiling systems which can be regulation driven and how staged injection is utilised.
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@WyFoster
@WyFoster 4 года назад
He's probably the best interviewer I've ever seen. It's nice when the person asking the questions knows as much as the guy answering.
@rotax636nut5
@rotax636nut5 2 года назад
I appreciate that you are paying the interviewer a compliment Wyatt but please don't think Mr Interviewer has anything like the vast wealth of knowledge that Mr Mountain has amassed in his career..
@garyhurn
@garyhurn 4 года назад
The best motorsport interviews bar none. Andre’s knowledge is exceptional
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
He's certainly honed his interviewing craft over the years eh! Cheers for the comment and thanks to people like David for making it happen as well, they're just as important and give up their time and knowledge too for us all - Taz.
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 4 года назад
Exactly, one has to be very familiar with the subject to know what questions to ask to best use the interview time and inform the viewers - sadly, many lack Andre's ability for this.
@DavidElstob73
@DavidElstob73 4 года назад
My new fav channel. Love the way he asks intelligent questions then actually listens.
@cuthberter
@cuthberter 4 года назад
Fantastic. David knows his stuff and provides a great interview. Maybe you can find others like him? Prodrive maybe?
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
I think we tried Prodrive this trip but things didn't line up, however, we will be back. The UK has some awesome places and people to visit and interview, and conveniently it's not that big to make things like this Mountune trip to chat to David happen during events like Goodwood =) - Taz.
@HighLiner15
@HighLiner15 3 года назад
The amount of knowledge being flung back and forth then dumbed down for us laymen out there is strictly amazing 👏 🥸🤙🏁
@ADRIANW78
@ADRIANW78 4 года назад
Two very clever engineers having an in-depth discussion about building race engines. Sooo good 👌
@MafiaboysWorld
@MafiaboysWorld 4 года назад
Another awesome interview Andre. There's always something in these tech interviews that sparks the mind into translating it for our own applications. Be it the head clamping, or the anti-lag, or the various technologies, there is always something that makes you learn. 👍
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Too many topics to know what to put in the description that's for sure. I didn't even get a chance to mention the head clamping chat in this one haha. Glad you're enjoying the content mate and cheers for the comment. More PRI and SEMA stuff coming up soon - Taz.
@MafiaboysWorld
@MafiaboysWorld 4 года назад
@@hpa101 I think 3600PSI was a good title Taz. No clickbait either. 🤘 Today's episode got me thinking all about turbo spool vs exhaust back pressure and how I can reduce it for Crustida. It's the theory and the application of that theory that keeps my brain ticking and double, triple checking to make sure when I apply it, it's right the first time and I don't need to deal with the same issues that have been experienced by so many other people in the past. As the saying goes, history only repeats itself if you're not willing to learn and I'd rather use the people who have tried and failed before me as the guide to do it right rather than cause my own failures with lack of knowledge. 🤔
@AlistairLattimore
@AlistairLattimore 4 года назад
MafiaboysWorld I saw an excellent video by Richard Holdner recently comparing the same turbo on different sized engines, say a 4.8l vs 6.0l and it was back pressure related.
@MafiaboysWorld
@MafiaboysWorld 4 года назад
@@AlistairLattimore I watched it about 2 weeks ago. 👍 Good to see another Holdener fan.
@trentcrompton9527
@trentcrompton9527 4 года назад
MafiaboysWorld I always learn something on this channel, Andre is a smart man and Holdener goes alright too👍
@boostedbuiltgarage
@boostedbuiltgarage 4 года назад
Always love listening to David from Mountune. Great interview as always 🙌
@oetic5016
@oetic5016 Год назад
The interviewer understands motorsports and cars, and doesn't miss a thing the interviewee says. Makes for a Very stellar video!
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 4 года назад
Gentlemen’s interjection to elaborate details done too a T. Love your work.
@matthewmcclain1316
@matthewmcclain1316 4 года назад
Wow, this really opened my eyes to how rally type anti lag works. I've seen diagrams and had people explain it, but this just made it clear. Good questions, very knowledgeable. Killed it as always.
@tylertc1
@tylertc1 4 года назад
Andre, I feel there‘s gotta be a mind connection here. Sitting here with my girlfriend and was like said out loud how I didn‘t know what he was meaning with „Push.“ And what do ya know, not even a beat skipped and you pick that out and review it. Boom. I was literally just saying to her how you ALWAYS are able to pull out what your audience does not vs what they may not. So I just looked over at here ...and said...“see“ haha. I have always really appreciated these deep dives and exposure, and technical coverage of Motorsports that I just cant‘t find anywhere else. Continually impressed by you and the channels professionalism, interaction with your audience, and your willingness to share this even though its a rather niche market interested in this. But, love it. Thank you for all you and your teams work.
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Thanks a lot Tyler. Really appreciate your support. :)
@calebcourteau
@calebcourteau 4 года назад
I had the exact same experience. Andre is sharp as a tack.
@GerardBendotti
@GerardBendotti 4 года назад
too right. Andre treats his interviewees,subject and audience with respect. and that is praiseworthy and notable. definitely a fan.
@GetUpFalcon
@GetUpFalcon 4 года назад
Your girlfriend takes an interest in this? Promote that woman up the ranks mate!
@handy796
@handy796 4 года назад
Awesome interview. So much knowledge, thanks Andre and David.
@AlistairLattimore
@AlistairLattimore 4 года назад
What a spectacular interview, great job Andre and I think a special thank you is in order for David who was very open, generous and direct in the way he shared his knowledge.
@schemsimon4160
@schemsimon4160 4 года назад
You’re an amazing interviewer. I learn so much watching your content. Please keep it going.
@jdesigns7239
@jdesigns7239 4 года назад
Perhaps the best educational motorsports channel on youtube. Great video!
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 4 года назад
That was awesome.... I’ll say it again, I love your interviewing style! 🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺😎🍀
@Hunkleb
@Hunkleb 4 года назад
Welcome to essex HP, and Dave you have a fantastic set up there with a great team, keep up the good work, very knowledgable team.
@hisaanhaq4116
@hisaanhaq4116 4 года назад
Amazing interview both guys!!! 👍🏼
@brianbob7514
@brianbob7514 4 года назад
Great interview as always.
@lauwelau27h
@lauwelau27h 4 года назад
Very nice Andre! Great interview and proper info!
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 3 года назад
Damn RU-vid. Found another interesting channel, now another day gone due to binge-watching. My car isn't going to fix itself. But it's great to listen to people who understand what they're talking about. Oh look, there's a video on block design by Mountune...
@danielsimpson8929
@danielsimpson8929 4 года назад
Good interview. Great content.
@TurbineResearch
@TurbineResearch 4 года назад
More of these videos please! Absolutely top content 👌
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it mate, thanks for the comment, support, and warm fuzzy feelings haha. We have heaps more on the way =D - Taz.
@carlcomputer9686
@carlcomputer9686 4 года назад
Awesome information. Thanks for sharing
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Thanks for watching Carl. Glad you enjoyed it :) - Taz.
@kylej489
@kylej489 4 года назад
Awesome interview guys
@erikchapman9732
@erikchapman9732 4 года назад
This was fantastic, thank you!
@hupondio
@hupondio 4 года назад
Thanks Andre! Very interesting!
@merlz89
@merlz89 4 года назад
Why isn't this channel more popular? These interviews show insight like no other. Especially from specialist shops like Mountune. Love it HPA!!
@southjerseysound7340
@southjerseysound7340 4 года назад
I've wondered the same thing since I found it....... but part of me thinks that guy's don't share it because it's like a old speed secret 😂
@skarbanan
@skarbanan 4 года назад
What an interview, what a channel! Omg 👍😳
@coollee303
@coollee303 4 года назад
Great interview
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 4 года назад
Forgot, with the comment about the plenum, check out 0:20 - how the charge is introduced to the plenum from below, along the full length of the plenum. It give a more even flow of pressurised air to all the intakes. It looks bespoke, but companies like Jevney have a line of similarly designed plenums.
@philipstabler7543
@philipstabler7543 4 года назад
David Mountain, what a legend!
@pbalerig
@pbalerig 4 года назад
Excellent interviewer
@swisscourthustle
@swisscourthustle 4 года назад
Never thought one of the benefits of direct injection would be a far more efficient anti lag system!
@fraud3647
@fraud3647 4 года назад
They use two injector system, second injector spray more higher pressure fuel in manifold and ecu can timing it sequential, that just provide better fuel/air mixture and produce more torque. Duratec is great power unit! This engine can beat mighty Millington natural aspiration assembly same cubic capacity.
@bradleytee4223
@bradleytee4223 4 года назад
II'm really becoming a fan of your channel. I appreciate the fesh content.
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Cheers for the encouraging comment mate, we've been really lucky over the last few years finding people like David who are happy to share their time and knowledge and we have plenty in the pipeline yet for you =D - Taz.
@Hamsteren91
@Hamsteren91 4 года назад
So good.👌
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 4 года назад
David is a legend!
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 4 года назад
I remember seeing Dave Mountain being continually referenced by another David, David Vizard. All you A-series tuners know where i'm at :) well the older ones anyway...
@gordowg1wg145
@gordowg1wg145 4 года назад
To clarify, when people say the 'bolt' has settled, or whatever, aren't they really referring to the gasket? As the gentleman said, sometimes more is less, when it comes to bolts, or studs, and head sealing. If you have the chance, could you perhaps ask them about their preference for full diameter Vs reduced diameter shanks? If they're made of the same material, and equally torqued (tensile loading), one would expect the same nominal clamping force but with the reduced shank having less sensitivity to head/gasket/ thread expansion and contraction? The other thing is the diameter of the load bearing washer under the fastner head - I have seen even 'stock' applications showing an impression of the washer, which would suggest it is sinking into the head and reducing the tension on the fastner, in cases where the washer is little larger than the head - any thoughts on using larger diameter hardened ones to reduce this sinking, spot faced as required on the head?
@Lipi19821
@Lipi19821 4 года назад
great interviewer.It would be nice if all of them would do their job in the field they are educated in(or lerned other ways) guy asking the questions should know whats goin on
@johnsnow5239
@johnsnow5239 4 года назад
Great interview once again Andre. Top notch. Would I be correct in saying that this antilag you explained is the reason we hear excessive "crackle" on deceleration when watching these rally cars? It's the antilag maintaining turbo speed?
@ryanp6138
@ryanp6138 4 года назад
Yes it is
@Buttsnramen
@Buttsnramen 2 года назад
The Duratec is 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@kenleach2516
@kenleach2516 4 года назад
Great listening
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Cheers Ken! Glad you enjoyed the interview, David is a fountain of knowledge - Taz.
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 4 года назад
Would a discrete burner between the compressor and turbine, with fuel injection and ignition, be permitted to supply the turbine for anti-lag? Great interview! Thank you.
@moteuretsens6134
@moteuretsens6134 4 года назад
It is so intresting😁😁
@notsponsored103
@notsponsored103 3 года назад
Always makes me wonder why integrated block/head single cast or billet solutions havnt become mainstream especially after they were experimented with in F1 decades ago.
@Andrew260RS
@Andrew260RS 4 года назад
Awesome interview. Still confused about the fresh air anti lag. It pumps air into the exhaust manifold. Fuel gets injected in the exhaust stroke. So what provides ignition. The combustion camber doesn’t have air so I assume the spark plugs won’t be able to ignite it a very very rich state.
@wrench8677
@wrench8677 4 года назад
Midgetbar maid the spark plugs won’t fire, the heat of the exhaust manifold will ignite the fuel
@The_action_is_the_juice
@The_action_is_the_juice 4 года назад
why don't they just "skirt" the top of the engine block and have side bolts into the head, like the bottom end?
@jakeschultz2183
@jakeschultz2183 4 года назад
That's really cool stuff. Could someone take an Audi or whatever and switch between a rally/high boost type tune and switch back to a more oe tune if the proper equipment was applied? Like a serious weekend warrior?
@Hawk7886
@Hawk7886 4 года назад
Sure, you basically take a purpose built racing engine and detune it for daily driver duty. It really wouldn't be a great idea.
@magnusdanielsson2749
@magnusdanielsson2749 4 года назад
Very interesting as usual. Why not use a monobloc like the offenhauser?
@RHBTurbochargers
@RHBTurbochargers 4 года назад
-very hard to control coolant flow -hard to achieve head ports that flow well -mains have to be really far apart in order to install pistons, or mains need to be modular
@magnusdanielsson2749
@magnusdanielsson2749 4 года назад
House of Boost still the Offenhauser is one of the most used engines, with most wins in indy 500. The last variant, 2.65 liter turbo, produced 770 hp. Surely with modern technology one could make an even better design? For instance, regarding cooling. One could have the water jacket go around the head uninterrupted and thus have better cooling. Just speculating of course.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 4 года назад
Why port throttle needs to be on cable???
@damianbobmajster
@damianbobmajster 4 года назад
How do they putting fresh air into exhaus manifold ? Could you give us a some example how this kind of anti lag system works in details?. What kind of managment is used in those systems?
@shredthetrack6858
@shredthetrack6858 4 года назад
Watch the Last Video called Als+releases. He explain everything in that Video.
@damianbobmajster
@damianbobmajster 4 года назад
@@shredthetrack6858 thanks !
@thunha3517
@thunha3517 3 года назад
Very nice….
@christoffer1973
@christoffer1973 3 года назад
Haven't Montune also made a engine for Caterham (super7) also.
@TheInvertedFollicle507
@TheInvertedFollicle507 2 года назад
Random fact: Mountune has also been the sole engine supplier to BAC for it's Mono R. It's had that position since at least 2019. Now let's go and shove one of those enormous turbos into the W16 engine of a Bugatti Chiron 😂😂😅😅😱😱😱
@SuperPaulfa
@SuperPaulfa 4 года назад
how they ignite the fuel mixture in the exhaust manifold during the anti lag mode ?
@dj4monie
@dj4monie 4 года назад
Did a video about that already look . Look at their other videos
@danronck3636
@danronck3636 4 года назад
This usually happens through the heat of the exhaust headers' metal leading to detonation or extremely retarded ignition timing, sparking the air fuel mixture at the end of the exhaust stroke
@mattjohns3394
@mattjohns3394 4 года назад
The flame doesn't go out in the cylinder. If you chop the exhaust off in line with the front seats, you'll still get flames coming out.
@SCHM14
@SCHM14 4 года назад
Andre what ever happened to the evo?
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
DOCILE is around the corner at Highlands Motorsport Park for now, but Ben is trying to peer pressure Andre into dusting it off =D - Taz.
@MafiaboysWorld
@MafiaboysWorld 4 года назад
@@hpa101 Do it Ben, peer pressure his butt. Do it, do it, do it, DOOOO IIIIIIIIT!!!! 😈 DOCILE brings back some very good memories of NZ killing the drag scene. That, MGAWOT, Heat Treatments R32, all just evil and fast as hell! 👍
@j.m.5995
@j.m.5995 4 года назад
Why not build an integral cylinderhead- engine block and then change the assembly and machining techniques.. Has this ever been done
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
Yes sir, I believe you're thinking of a monobloc, check out this video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rEfNblc3UnM.html - Taz.
@Lipi19821
@Lipi19821 4 года назад
where do one buy this amtilag? CAnt wait to show evrybody that Im the best in my gang....im peacefull gangster, we are against bullies... shoutout to Z-N8TION WHere does one mount the amtilag?! per each tyre? IDK???HELP PLS!!!
@Kj16V
@Kj16V 3 года назад
"these engines are *only* 600bhp... Not that difficult..." Me with my homebuilt 400 bhp engine: 😭
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 года назад
I have to watch all of these, then drive home in a 100HP (on a good day) MX5. I feel your pain bro 😂 - Taz.
@trevohlson9733
@trevohlson9733 4 года назад
Camless technology is a step forward i think freevalve no need for throttle body direct injection or a wastegate with individual valve ports would be able to run one valve port of each cylinder to bypass the turbine then tap back in after dump pipe and make the computer control the turbo speed 🙄
@Jupiter__001_
@Jupiter__001_ 3 года назад
Response time may be problematic on Freevalve, limiting the maximum engine speed. Throttle response should be fine though.
@1stMjolnirMarkV
@1stMjolnirMarkV Год назад
Bro literally made his turbo a jet engine😂
@Xempt_One
@Xempt_One 4 года назад
It feels like you could do these by yourself haha set a mic stand up and ask the question on one side, step to the other side and answer it yourself. You need to come back to wellies and start stm up again, get a decent tuner shop around here.
@azimpetra
@azimpetra 3 года назад
5:20 Ringtone: Sandstorm
@hpa101
@hpa101 3 года назад
😂
@fraud3647
@fraud3647 4 года назад
Mazda SkyActiv race engine have also 250 bar cylinder pressure, engine runs a relatively low 14:1 compression ratio, Bosch fuel injection system operates with 30000 psi. Twin compound turbos from Garrett provide up to 70 pound of boost, charge is cooled through a pair air to air coolers. Nothing aluminum alloys pistons not can`t hold up this load. Inside liners is steel pistons This set up work well without problems.
@2012listo
@2012listo 4 года назад
Hi! You guys are awesome, and I mean this in the nicest way: Dave looks like a koala, and you look like a hemsworth! Wtf? Australians are SO Australian!
@GetUpFalcon
@GetUpFalcon 4 года назад
Ahhh. Dave is English and Andre is from New Zealand.
@2012listo
@2012listo 4 года назад
@@GetUpFalcon ha! Even funnier! Man, was I high.
@romoalex
@romoalex 4 года назад
3600 psi.... what kind of academy are you
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
People complain when it's in bar, people complain about psi, but either way if you watch the interview it is relevant which is the point of a title - Taz
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 4 года назад
My solution would be to add bucket loads of JB Weld or a similar substance.
@kreegak3802
@kreegak3802 4 года назад
Clickbait much?
@hpa101
@hpa101 4 года назад
How so? The topic in the title is specifically discussed and relevant to cylinder-head sealing high boost at low RPMs. I do try and get numbers in there as they make titles more engaging, but they are always relevant - Taz.
@dannhu2391
@dannhu2391 3 года назад
Omg.
@GerardBendotti
@GerardBendotti 4 года назад
another excellent interview. thanks Andre and David.
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