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Witness: Chad Daybell predicted deaths of 2 murder victims 

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On day 18 of the Chad Daybell triple murder trial, the prosecution questioned Zulema Pastenes, Lori Vallow's sister-in-law. The former follower of Chad Daybell says the self-proclaimed "Doomsday prophet" predicted deaths of two murder victims.
Chad's wife, Lori Vallow, was found guilty in May 2023 of six charges, including the murders of Joshua "JJ" Vallow and Tylee Ryan, both of whom were her children. On July 31, Vallow was sentenced to life in prison without parole by an Idaho judge.
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@marycaygross4096
@marycaygross4096 Месяц назад
This is hard to believe that grown adults believed all this malarkey. What is happening in this world?
@bettywatson9098
@bettywatson9098 Месяц назад
Blinded by Satan.. They are lost and don't have JESUS IN THEIR HEART!! ITS A CULT 👽👽👽
@KnitzyKitzy
@KnitzyKitzy Месяц назад
If you look at the core beliefs of most religions they are a bit insane. If they were brought up Mormons then they were brought up believing in people (mostly men) having visions, that god tells them what to do if they pray , golden tablets etc and this is not really that great a leap.
@patgal2359
@patgal2359 Месяц назад
read ANY religious scripture from a dispassionate outsider's view, not as a believer... guess what...they are ALL malarkey
@motocatz87
@motocatz87 Месяц назад
I'm a middle school music teacher, so please don't judge my grammer :) I read your post and it really sparked me to write this. I'm sorry for the long post, but I felt compelled. I agree with you 100%! It's completely insane how people can just go along with these insane, crazy ideas. The only way I can see this happening is that Chad was part of their "ward" in the LDS Mormon church. He was a "big wig" (so to speak) because he wrote books on his so-called "visions" and he associated himself with others like Julie Rowe who supposedly had "death experiences". These people who were already followers of the LDS Church were believers in the hierarchy, aka Chad. They were knee-deep in this religion and thought Chad was giving them the truth because who could possibly imagine a hierarchy LDS member giving them false information or lying to them to gain power and money??! They followed along like sheep off a cliff. And I think Alex might have realized that after it was too late! You ask what is happening to our world? Our education has gone to crap, at least it has in the United States. We need to educate our girls and boys to think critically, how to problem solve, how to speak up and be leaders instead of followers. We need to teach our children that even when nobody is looking, they are doing the right thing. Whether it's simply picking up a piece of trash in a park or beach. Sometimes educators literally need to teach our children how to be good people, that is if it doesn't come naturally or that their parents don't bother to teach them. The bottom line is we're all in this together, parents, grandparents, families, counselors, educators, psychologists, etc. We want a better world? We need to work together to make that happen. And as the old saying goes, it starts at home!
@teenyverse7707
@teenyverse7707 Месяц назад
It's always been this way... HeavensGate? Jamestown?
@carobutterfli2537
@carobutterfli2537 Месяц назад
If a man told me that my kids were dark, I would never speak to him again. They took their sickness way too far!
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u Месяц назад
true, no matter what ideology was used to ''support'' that awful statement. You think my kids are DARK? BYE, don't let the door smack your arse as you leave.
@british4199
@british4199 Месяц назад
I'd have said - they're nowhere near as dark as I am - watch it chubs
@shirleybleazard8049
@shirleybleazard8049 Месяц назад
I have read that perhaps mom was making her daughter ill, by the pharmaceutical pills she was given unknown to the child. I have read it, heard it from acquaintances. ? A thought to mull over. Empathy, attention, accolades?
@justme33126
@justme33126 Месяц назад
But Vallow was on fire for Daymonbell; and once Charles was gone, she didn't want to look after an autistic child on her own. They planned to be "empty nesters" with loads of insurance money to live on.
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 Месяц назад
@@SusanaXpeace2uI believe Lori didn’t want to be a mother to Jj and T beaning a teen I’m dire T didn’t like Chad because she still loved Charlie and her dad
@Jackie-rc6cj
@Jackie-rc6cj Месяц назад
Finally a witness that is saying all the right stuff. There should be no doubt for the Jury now.
@dianedavidson7977
@dianedavidson7977 Месяц назад
She wrote it down lol. Someone always writes it down. I'm a visual learner and prefer to see whatever I'm studying trying to understand. Having it written down is probably the best evidence bc it helps all this bs make sense if there is any sense in this nonsense. Organized religion mans biggest grift and they don't pay taxes go figure.
@Janis.7-
@Janis.7- Месяц назад
Ah the old Magic Pendulum trick ! They’re on sale at Walmart . Zombies excepted
@candicewitzkoske3155
@candicewitzkoske3155 Месяц назад
Here’s my prediction; Chad won’t be in the rapture!
@KitKat_2007
@KitKat_2007 Месяц назад
and will also be in prison for the rest of his life.
@patgal2359
@patgal2359 Месяц назад
lol
@tamaraelsberry6630
@tamaraelsberry6630 Месяц назад
Lol! I'm sure your prophecy will come true!
@k_a_bizzle
@k_a_bizzle Месяц назад
Lmfao. You should go to Vegas.
@andromeda1903
@andromeda1903 Месяц назад
@@xyz12345457 correct. the rapture is not Biblical. the saved will all go to Heaven at the same time.
@Zeldaantibes
@Zeldaantibes Месяц назад
Chad is one sick F!
@lancemontgomery7193
@lancemontgomery7193 Месяц назад
Both Melanie’s need to be arrested. Clearly this women who married Alex is the most honest and believable.. not to bright tho.
@misssheilamacdonald7010
@misssheilamacdonald7010 Месяц назад
If you ever meet people like Chad and Lori…RUN!
@shirleybleazard8049
@shirleybleazard8049 Месяц назад
That people believed this is sickening! WHO would believe this $hit? I think they should go to jail for being so stupid. I'm glad that Sulema is testifying though she has opened up these crimes and let people see what really happened!
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
Julie Rowe and AVOW, the group where Chad was a celebrity in have thousands of followers in Idaho, Utah and AZ, until today.
@MissTi23
@MissTi23 Месяц назад
That’s what i can’t wrap my head around. How can anyone be so dense? I’m definitely judging them…
@camiosis
@camiosis Месяц назад
​@@lidiagutierrez7983 Julie Rowe showed up at Court on Monday May 6th trying to get inside the Court room she had on black stretch pants a black jacket and a black hat and someone snatched on her and the Bailiff would not let her enter said she could not and walked her away from Court Room Door .. just weird
@jaycees9287
@jaycees9287 Месяц назад
@@lidiagutierrez7983I heard in another group she is supposed to called as a witness at some point.
@julie-nw6ql
@julie-nw6ql Месяц назад
This lady is lucky to be alive
@daniellelusty3054
@daniellelusty3054 Месяц назад
🤔🤔 Melanie P denies ever hearing about the 7 Gatherers. She’s shady and so evasive
@scarlettphoenix7024
@scarlettphoenix7024 Месяц назад
Lori trained her
@chrisganthony
@chrisganthony Месяц назад
^😂 plz tell me you're not a "7-Gatherers truther"! But look, I hope the defense continues to crack open a window into what I'm sure is A LOT of weird stuff no one will ever hear about.
@TalLeGal
@TalLeGal Месяц назад
Chad flattered them and made them feel important.
@BeingConformed
@BeingConformed Месяц назад
​@@TalLeGal I agree, but 🤮🤮
@lindamathews6575
@lindamathews6575 Месяц назад
She is always smiling like Lori she's freaking weird
@snowwhite2524
@snowwhite2524 Месяц назад
Chad labeled Charles, Tylee, JJ, and Tammy as zombies before they were murdered. If Chad hadn't labeled them zombies then they never would've had the justification to murder anyone. Chad deserves to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison.
@KitKat_2007
@KitKat_2007 Месяц назад
I wonder if there is going to be a murder trial for Charles Vallow who was killed by Lori Vallow's brother in a fight.
@lynnharris7102
@lynnharris7102 Месяц назад
Yes. Lori had been charged and waiting trial
@motocatz87
@motocatz87 Месяц назад
Chad and Lori wanted money, power, and to be together, but yes it was justified in Alex's mind and others thanks to Chad. He deserves to be in a cage. I do think he should get the death penalty, only because this monster will continue to write books and spread this crap around. It's awful to think, but there are a lot of people out in the world that will write this creep in prison and will follow his words. I wouldn't be surprised if he divorced Lori and got remarried while in prison. Lot's of these creeps do. I'd rather they just put an end to it.
@Zubeneshemali
@Zubeneshemali Месяц назад
Chad Daybell is the poster-boy for a false, vain and foolish "prophet for profit"!!
@tamaraelsberry6630
@tamaraelsberry6630 Месяц назад
​@@KitKat_2007 they "claimed" there was a fight. I think they ambushed him and shot him in cold blood.
@mamamcfreeman105
@mamamcfreeman105 Месяц назад
6k a MONTH in social security?!!!! Ffs no wonder I’m paying so much in taxes!! When my dad died in 2005, we only got $500.
@judystanko3470
@judystanko3470 24 дня назад
Unfortunately! The way SSA depends on your income and how much in taxes you pay per pay period. If your making close to 6 figures a years your monthly SSA will be high at the times Benefits are distributed to your dependants In the event of your death that's pretty much how l understand how SsA work.🤔🤔
@Dsm437
@Dsm437 Месяц назад
Very damaging testimony for Chad
@Zubeneshemali
@Zubeneshemali Месяц назад
Can't watch live!! Where are the reporters/journalists detailing the court's proceedings??
@joycewedel9084
@joycewedel9084 Месяц назад
Lori wanted Tammy dead!
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад
So did he. Greed
@kevinwalker1980
@kevinwalker1980 Месяц назад
Chode the toad wanted Tammy's death more. Hell, he already had affairs going. This assclown has given me inspiration to move to Idaho and start a cult. Using fantasy, I wouldn't have to pay taxes anymore. Alot of the LDS chick's are my age and hot. I'm looking at you Heather! And Tammy was right up my alley!
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
So did Chad!
@KnitzyKitzy
@KnitzyKitzy Месяц назад
Chad had been fantasising about it for years.
@ohheyykristina
@ohheyykristina Месяц назад
@@KnitzyKitzyright?! And the wildest thing is ole mufflemouth Chad loved to share these fantasies of Tammy dying as “prophecies” and “visions” to anyone who was brain dead enough to listen to him mumble on and on. lol 😂😂😂
@misscorvette02
@misscorvette02 Месяц назад
Is his lawyer sitting there thinking his client is a nut job?
@carobutterfli2537
@carobutterfli2537 Месяц назад
Yes he is.
@maureenfitzgerald1895
@maureenfitzgerald1895 Месяц назад
He’s also annoyed that Chad is out of money to pay him. He petitioned to be removed from the case and was denied. The body language between those two - each leaning away from the other
@lisaadams6753
@lisaadams6753 Месяц назад
Definitely! You can see him squirming during Zulema’s testimony
@jenniferbailey5914
@jenniferbailey5914 Месяц назад
No. He swallowed the cool aide too!
@misscorvette02
@misscorvette02 Месяц назад
Can we all agree Lori and Chad are dark? 👋🏻
@BeingConformed
@BeingConformed Месяц назад
💯
@juliewaite2174
@juliewaite2174 Месяц назад
Why were none of Chads kids rated light or dark? I need to know!
@KMD446
@KMD446 Месяц назад
All of Chad’s kids were adults. No way to collect life insurance or social security benefits from them dying. Plus they believe whatever Chad tells them so they wouldn’t be in the way of his life with Lori.
@ericasimonson8737
@ericasimonson8737 Месяц назад
They were all adults, not in the way, and their deaths would provide no monetary benefit.
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
Exactly
@gigia9515
@gigia9515 Месяц назад
They murdered Alex too. He must have been close to revealing that he murdered the husband, the wife and the 2 kids. That's why he broke down, regret. He was their warrior all right.
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 Месяц назад
but how..
@gigia9515
@gigia9515 Месяц назад
@dianayount2122 Maybe he did it himself overcome with guilt. That's possible too. Seems odd that he would die like that just at the time when things came to a head. Tylie's father had died too at a young age, apparently.
@ruthmyers2397
@ruthmyers2397 Месяц назад
Joe Ryan was murdered also , I believe
@gigia9515
@gigia9515 Месяц назад
@ruthmyers2397 I think you are right. I was going to murder him,” Vallow says in the recording, referring to Joseph Ryan. “I was going to kill him like the scriptures say." There was a custody battle. After his death Tylee got social security.
@inthesun3884
@inthesun3884 Месяц назад
Apparently there is another neighbor who died of the same thing Joe Ryan and Alex Cox died from... also what they claimed Tammy died from.
@home94595
@home94595 Месяц назад
My brain is in full poppycock explosion. Who would ever believe this crap?!?
@suejones8355
@suejones8355 25 дней назад
Lots of bright and dumb people. Look at all the people who believe some big sky daddy is watching over their every move. Biggest scam of all.
@Zeldaantibes
@Zeldaantibes Месяц назад
What the what!?!?!? Who believes this garbage!? Do these people hold down jobs??
@karenrose1336
@karenrose1336 Месяц назад
I was wondering about jobs myself!
@elainecongo3827
@elainecongo3827 Месяц назад
LOL...I FEEL THIS WAY ABOUT ALL CULTS THE BS THEY BE TALKING I'M LIKE WHO ARE THE FOLKS WHO FOLLOW THESE PEOPLE....GOTTA BE REALLY NEEDY FOR FRIENDS
@Zeldaantibes
@Zeldaantibes Месяц назад
Who has time for all this? All this traveling and moving and meetings . When does the laundry get done???
@ddt67
@ddt67 Месяц назад
And all of the money for traveling??
@Zeldaantibes
@Zeldaantibes Месяц назад
Exactly! And Rent!
@priscillastewart1082
@priscillastewart1082 Месяц назад
Mel P totally committed perjury during her testimony when she claimed she wasn’t part of the 7 …. When is she going to face up to her bullshit
@danimotherofchickens479
@danimotherofchickens479 Месяц назад
That was just what Lori called the email group who did their dumb 'castings'...probably made up by Lori and Zuluma and the others probably didn't even know or care that they named it. Lori was straight full f delusions
@carolyn9444
@carolyn9444 Месяц назад
Law enforcement waiting till Chad is done I think She's gonna be next... if they charge her now, she can't be a witness in Chad's case.
@jacqui9176
@jacqui9176 Месяц назад
@@carolyn9444 Good!
@heartsmyfaceforever8140
@heartsmyfaceforever8140 Месяц назад
They’ve likely given Melanie a deal with the stipulation that she is 100% truthful. They probably know already that’s she’s lied and that the deal is void.
@BroscienceXpert
@BroscienceXpert Месяц назад
Melanie P also denied knowing about the 7 gatherers too! She has also committed perjury
@rolo4945
@rolo4945 Месяц назад
Prior criticised Zulema for having poor discernment in terms of people and teachings and belief, 😂 poor judgement of following Chad and Chad’s beliefs 😂😂😂😂😂 Prior you’re testifying for the prosecution ?
@kevinwalker1980
@kevinwalker1980 Месяц назад
Hear me out, Prior is an piece of work on his own. Not a good guy, not a bad guy, just a flawed guy that wants nothing to do with this. He tried to get out, he tried to get another lawyer to by time to get out. But he does do his job. He's not like able, he did bone that client/employee, what ever she was and kept his lawyerings. He does not want to be there, this is going to hurt his final years is chode doesn't have him killed. And with Alex in the ground, there is a new sword of the toad. Let this poor guy do his job. It's all he has left. Life has not blessed him. His only payment is Emma and the murder house.
@brandeerobinett4896
@brandeerobinett4896 Месяц назад
Anyone can have discernment… this is pure stupidity!
@patgal2359
@patgal2359 Месяц назад
this was an arranged marriage, her and alex...whatever melanie p knew, zulema knew.
@j.c.7555
@j.c.7555 Месяц назад
@@kevinwalker1980. Emma? Lost me there
@juliemerington4197
@juliemerington4197 Месяц назад
Chad’s daughter who now rents her childhood home off John Prior, who now owns Chad’s property in lieu of payment.
@dantebg100
@dantebg100 Месяц назад
Peter Griffin what have you done.....😡
@nenej12
@nenej12 Месяц назад
He does look like him lmao 😂
@andromeda1903
@andromeda1903 Месяц назад
now i can't unsee it lol
@CocoAvalon
@CocoAvalon Месяц назад
How can the prosecutor keep a straight face when asking questions about "Hiplose"? 🤣
@CityBohoGirl
@CityBohoGirl Месяц назад
All I know is every time I heard Chad go on and on… and on and on and on 😳 I hit that “10 sec forward” button like 30 time. Lol
@snowwhite2524
@snowwhite2524 Месяц назад
Me too.
@naomideleon8363
@naomideleon8363 Месяц назад
😂😂omg me too ✋️ 😭
@CityBohoGirl
@CityBohoGirl Месяц назад
@@naomideleon8363 hahahaha
@snahg2356
@snahg2356 Месяц назад
What 10 second forward button? I need one of those
@evancodd6739
@evancodd6739 Месяц назад
​@snahg2356 double tap on the right side of the vid to fast forward 10 secs. Double tapping left rewinds 10 seconds.
@catherineellen928
@catherineellen928 Месяц назад
Somebody needs to look into Alex's death...🤨😳
@Ddaniels9014
@Ddaniels9014 Месяц назад
Pulmonary Embolism is his cause of death
@kmcquack8989
@kmcquack8989 Месяц назад
Chad releases his inner 4 year old with all these names
@ohheyykristina
@ohheyykristina Месяц назад
Hahaha Raphael. Every time I hear Lori say that I cringe. They were so corny. Chad had MANY years of being a fat, boring egg so he learned how to manipulate well it seems. He has no personality, god knows he’s never had looks, he most definitely wasn’t financially well off so he found desperate, weak people and he drown them compliments, flattery and praise and gave people these dramatic past lives as important or notable people to boost their ego. It’s really hard to dislike someone who treats you so great and does nothing but sing your praises. So despite their gut telling them this guy a whack job, they continued coming back around because he made them believe they were worthy and important and they just wanted to continue feeling good about themselves. That’s how a big dopey egg gets folks to have anything to do with him esp be attracted to him lol /shudder ugh 😩 so gross lol
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 Месяц назад
Split screen sucks!!!
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Месяц назад
Zoom the witness
@lisaadams6753
@lisaadams6753 Месяц назад
I think this is specifically meant to be scientific and just a record. The judge didn’t want all the close-ups and speculation on peoples facial expressions, etc..
@ConnieCrandall-hf8fn
@ConnieCrandall-hf8fn Месяц назад
Did you all miss the statements, "They were teaching..." It's not the LDS RELIGION that THEY were teaching
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
A lot of these teachings are from Joseph Smith’s teachings, they are still taught in the LDS temple, some other have been too sick and were removed, and others are from Chad’s imagination
@gretaworship1989
@gretaworship1989 Месяц назад
Close enough. Same root of lies & deceit
@janicesellers3618
@janicesellers3618 Месяц назад
​@@lidiagutierrez7983actually you are completely mistaken in that belief. I have been a member of the LDS Church for 65 years and lived in, 5 different states and I have never Heard of this garbage. Zombies, multiple lives, castings, pretty much all of Zulema's testimony is way off the reservation.
@GetCreativeTools
@GetCreativeTools Месяц назад
It is unbelievable how gullable these people were to follow these two so blindly. Talk about being deceived. How is this?!!!
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
Most of these beliefs are part of the Mormon doctrine, and it has millions of members all over the world 🌎
@debipsen9140
@debipsen9140 Месяц назад
Think about it the Morman's are always looking for someone to follow. Chud always wanted to be a church leader. Look at Warren Jeffs they drank the cool aid. He is still telling people what to do from prison and they do it!
@Zeldaantibes
@Zeldaantibes Месяц назад
Lori had a portal in her closet! lol!
@ruthmyers2397
@ruthmyers2397 Месяц назад
Thank u for clarifying where it was.. now Chad can stop searching for it. Lol
@arizonadreaming4183
@arizonadreaming4183 Месяц назад
Nutcase
@ozsomenurse
@ozsomenurse Месяц назад
I think Lori had a lot of portals in a lot of closets.
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
Hahaha!!!😂
@angeliquebelluomini7797
@angeliquebelluomini7797 25 дней назад
She had a portal alright and Chad was clearly into it
@gabebannister8411
@gabebannister8411 Месяц назад
There’s always at least a few idiots that follow blindly follow behind the first few! This is absolutely ridiculous but I keep watching it bc it’s so dumb!!
@ddt67
@ddt67 Месяц назад
Me too! I am sitting here thinking why am I watching this, but I can’t stop 😂 These absolute whack jobs!!
@julie-nw6ql
@julie-nw6ql Месяц назад
Movie in the making 😂
@karencarter8029
@karencarter8029 Месяц назад
…… if only this were Salem, Mass year 1602 😳
@eldagarcia2543
@eldagarcia2543 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@denishottinger407
@denishottinger407 16 дней назад
Excellent Karen !, Absolutely Brillant, Here Here , 👌🏻
@nvegas4552
@nvegas4552 Месяц назад
Poor Alex. He thought he was a loyal warrior when he was just being used as a hitman. After Lori and Chad refused to answer his calls, it was a rude awakening to see that he wasn't as essential to the royal couple as he'd been led to believe. He was someone who was 100% all in. His image of himself and the grand part he was to play imploded when he saw he was dispensable. This couple left daggers in the backs of many who trusted them.
@marycaygross4096
@marycaygross4096 Месяц назад
Anyone who believed any of this had to be mental!
@northerngirl4666
@northerngirl4666 Месяц назад
There is nothing poor about Alex. If you are still not sure, go back and review the evidence of how poor little JJ was found with hands and feet bound and his face bound in duct tape with a plastic bag over his head and duct taped close. Tyler was found in pieces and burned. He wasn’t misguided: he was a violent man and obviously a sadist. So, please don’t feel sorry for him - 4 people were murdered with his help.
@suzanbeverlyhills2310
@suzanbeverlyhills2310 Месяц назад
Nothing poor about him 👎he was so stupid & DUMM 👎
@hellekimery9537
@hellekimery9537 Месяц назад
Ned? If all the names they could have chosen? Ned, is what Chad picked! Bahahaha, I would have burst out laughing had I heard this in a “ bible meeting”! That’s hilarious 😂
@home94595
@home94595 Месяц назад
It was Ned Schneider, in fact. Ahahahah. 😂
@ohheyykristina
@ohheyykristina Месяц назад
He didn’t do much better for himself either. Raphael? Bwahahaha! Ole mufflemouth Chad is the furtherest from anyone that I would imagine looks like a Raphael.
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
Lmmfao
@Marnarose4433
@Marnarose4433 Месяц назад
Oh please like she cared they were married to other people. She was in on it too!
@gigia9515
@gigia9515 Месяц назад
She knew, but must have felt so honored to be in the inner circle, part of the 7 gatheres, like Gibb and MelanieP. Melanie P yesterday denied any knowledge of the 7 gatherers. " I know nothing" was her whole testimony. She tried to have HER husband knocked off too. What a deluded bunch.
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
Right…Alex was Zulema’s fifth husband? 😂
@Tawadeb
@Tawadeb Месяц назад
​@@lidiagutierrez7983Chad was Loris fifth husband.
@cindihaeseker1925
@cindihaeseker1925 Месяц назад
Love Zulema! She was in the inner circle and just spilled the beans! Everything, play by play! Chad and lori are sick. Hope they never get out of prison. They destroyed so many lives!
@marysanders9461
@marysanders9461 Месяц назад
Hard to imagine that she actually cared about Alex but maybe she did.
@CrazyMaryJo
@CrazyMaryJo Месяц назад
This isolated cult is like a bad sci-fy movie 🍿
@NotYourBizz
@NotYourBizz Месяц назад
The look of an Evil crazy cult !
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
And wait to listen from Julie Rowe 😅 I hope she is called as a witness too
@hellekimery9537
@hellekimery9537 Месяц назад
She’s a terrible witness I feel. Maybe nerves? I mean, anyone who joined chads and Lori’ little cult, couldn’t have been the sharpest knife in the drawer!😊
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 Месяц назад
fluency is an issue? English is not her first language?
@glennpearce7093
@glennpearce7093 Месяц назад
Haha yeah she sounds like aye twelve year old ,I wonder if she can do her times table 😊
@northerngirl4666
@northerngirl4666 Месяц назад
Anyone getting sucked into the crap those people dished out are certainly no great thinkers. And Mormon women aren’t encouraged to think much except how to get dinner on the table and take care of dozens of kids. Medieval.
@home94595
@home94595 Месяц назад
I think what she is saying will be pivotal in getting Chad all the appropriate punishments that he deserves. She’s the first person that has explained what these people were trying to get other people to believe. It’s clearly showing the path to the murders which they committed. This is important testimony. And like someone said above, she’s lucky to be alive after associating with Chad and Lori.
@maureenfitzgerald1895
@maureenfitzgerald1895 Месяц назад
@@glennpearce7093English is not her first language. When under stress many fall back to their native language and need extra time to pull out the word in English. I thought she was about as fast and sharp as she could be. Her evidence was not good for Chad
@mountainman4859
@mountainman4859 Месяц назад
As I listened to this I was struck at how similar Chad’s glorification of himself mirrored Joseph Smith’s glorification of himself. First Smith claimed to be a Seer. He could see things via a peep stone in a hat. Then he was a prophet and produced teachings. If anyone opposed his teachings -say his wife who opposed polygamy - he would conveniently produce a revelation from God threatening her with damnation. Before he died, he became the General in charge of the Nauvoo legion, which had state recognition as a bonafide military unit. He was also a candidate for President of the United States. And, like Chad claimed to be the Holy Ghost incarnate. In fact, the Mormon church still teaches that no soul can enter heaven without his approval. So literally he had himself replacing Jesus as the judge of mankind. Early Mormonism had the very same organizational structure as what Chad was replicating. Smith had the Danites who killed people Smith determined needed killing through the doctrine of blood atonement. I was born into the faith, and at one time would have been susceptible to this nonsense the Daybell’s pulled. Thankfully I came to the realization I was gay. And you can’t be healthy and remain a Mormon. It still took over ten years of emotional hell to wean myself out of it. And another ten before I could look at the real church history and early teachings to see just how crazy it all is. I am in my 60s and have been out of the church since the age of 35. I will never forget walking the five blocks to the PO one night in Salt Lake City to mail my resignation letter. And I worried the whole way if I was doing the right thing. I knew I would lose friends and family and thought of my family heritage and all that. But I dropped the letter into the drop box and heard it hit the bottom I felt lighter and more peaceful than I ever had. With each step home I knew I’d done the right thing. And I have never once regretted it. I hope Zulema and the two Melanies and Ian and Brandon can break free of the cult, as well as the larger church.
@gali3214
@gali3214 Месяц назад
All this is called a CULT🤮
@k8marlowe
@k8marlowe Месяц назад
Nice job improving the video quality, Fox 10 Phoenix. Thank you
@j.c.7555
@j.c.7555 Месяц назад
How in the world did they even think they would get away with any of this! Chad is fully responsible for all of those gone. He should have pleaded insanity imo! Very sick! Zulema puts everything together in a nice bow…great witness!
@KMD446
@KMD446 Месяц назад
Idaho doesn’t have an insanity defense
@lindalumae
@lindalumae Месяц назад
They almost did get away with it. If JJ’s grandparents had bought her stories or not cared, they might have gotten away with it. Plus, they expected end times to cause chaos and thought no one would care then.
@marysanders9461
@marysanders9461 Месяц назад
Kay Woodcock had already lost a brother (Charles) to this mess, so she had every reason to be suspicious.
@tinawoodell1957
@tinawoodell1957 Месяц назад
Every person In that inner circle had the means to prevent all of the deaths that occurred.
@lisaadams6753
@lisaadams6753 Месяц назад
Lori: come over to my house after work we have to try to exercise a demon remotely on FaceTime. Me: No.
@brandybiscoff9685
@brandybiscoff9685 Месяц назад
I hate that we can’t see the defendant’s or witnesses faces during this trial.
@unapologeticallyamy9031
@unapologeticallyamy9031 Месяц назад
Chad is right there in the upper left box. The witness is right there in the upper right box.
@kawehionalani
@kawehionalani Месяц назад
I think that person meant it sucks we cannot see their facial expressions close up front.
@sniffdogma
@sniffdogma Месяц назад
@@kawehionalani Just zoom-in as the video plays. Voila!
@motherbear327
@motherbear327 Месяц назад
Zoom in on your phone.
@jbee1686
@jbee1686 Месяц назад
I just zoom in as well
@Janis.7-
@Janis.7- Месяц назад
Grown men and women believing in Santa and the tooth fairy would be less ridiculous
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад
Chad is greedy lori is greedy
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
And in heat for each other 🥵
@mauiskater
@mauiskater Месяц назад
MIND BLOWING testimony. WOW 😮
@kerryfinnegan9883
@kerryfinnegan9883 Месяц назад
Who in their right mind would want chad yuk
@latteda4652
@latteda4652 Месяц назад
She sure shed light on things!
@lauraz2178
@lauraz2178 Месяц назад
They truly are MONSTERS!!! 🤬
@user-oj8ij2sg7q
@user-oj8ij2sg7q Месяц назад
Notice how Chad and his attorney are sitting in the dark? 😆
@juliemerington4197
@juliemerington4197 Месяц назад
My uneducated guess would be 4.8 dark?
@misscorvette02
@misscorvette02 Месяц назад
My heart breaks for the four murdered, but Tylee just about does me in because of her innocence and age. She did not want to move to Idaho and she did not know she was being moved for the purpose of those monsters killing her and JJ.
@NurseChapel_NCC1701
@NurseChapel_NCC1701 Месяц назад
Chad says he has personal visits with God, yet he needs his pocket pendulum to predict the future. Evil man.
@gaynordicksoncooper6108
@gaynordicksoncooper6108 Месяц назад
He sure is evil
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
He’s one sick and twisted sob!
@sheilakieso1700
@sheilakieso1700 Месяц назад
He’s toast! No doubt in my mind, he was the mastermind and Lori was Batshit Crazy!
@motherbear327
@motherbear327 Месяц назад
All of Chad's revelations, zombie talk, earthquakes, 144,000 and so fiorth come from the book Visions of Glory. Absolute nonsense!
@ladygreenlife
@ladygreenlife Месяц назад
The condescending "How do you know what's on Chad's computer" followed by taken aback "no objection" was so satisfying!
@joycewedel9084
@joycewedel9084 Месяц назад
Lori was probably screaming at Alex on the phone when she learned his paintball gun didn't work which led the cops to know of that incident when Tammy reported that.
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
That sealed his fate
@peachleroots3608
@peachleroots3608 Месяц назад
Evil spirits named Ned and Garrett 😂😂
@nvegas4552
@nvegas4552 Месяц назад
Well now, if salvation is to be found through Chad's teachings, there's no need to call on Jesus Christ. There's something wrong with that picture.
@northerngirl4666
@northerngirl4666 Месяц назад
Hate to break it to you: Jesus is used in cults. He is not real. Or if he was a man who sought peace, some clever dude figured out a way to make money out of his popularity. All religions are cults. Look at any so called religion and there are just as many bizarre beliefs.
@suejones8355
@suejones8355 25 дней назад
How about intrinsically motivated morals to be a good person instead of from some bizarre sky daddy?
@nvegas4552
@nvegas4552 25 дней назад
@@suejones8355 Or, how about intrinsically motivated morals to be a good person no matter the religious or political beliefs?
@davidthurman3553
@davidthurman3553 Месяц назад
Who on earth believes this nonsense.
@xochitlkitty
@xochitlkitty Месяц назад
@45 wow. Just wow- if you’ve already proved yourself in another world, you don’t have to prove yourself in this one. So you can do whatever you want. Whatever you want. Even murder your own children. The breathtaking arrogance of these people; running around like they’re in some Twilight game; killing people to get them out of their way; yammering on and on about angels and demons and how holy they are.
@cr-qo3ov
@cr-qo3ov Месяц назад
And when Chad meets his maker he's going to tell him depart from me I never knew you worker of iniquity
@13Liberty50
@13Liberty50 Месяц назад
These are the people who will knock on your door They will want to convince you to let them in your home. Even though, this is how they treat each other, and they cannot even save themselves, they will claim to be the only ones who can save you.
@janicesellers3618
@janicesellers3618 Месяц назад
🙄
@13Liberty50
@13Liberty50 Месяц назад
@@janicesellers3618 coming from the lds
@lisaadams6753
@lisaadams6753 Месяц назад
Her past life of being raped and killed that’s so creepy. It’s almost like Chad is sexually abusing her in a past life by describing it. Yuck.
@patriciatreslove4449
@patriciatreslove4449 Месяц назад
I wonder why Zulema married Alex
@anemostrofylos
@anemostrofylos Месяц назад
Chad told her to do it
@kwitecontrary
@kwitecontrary Месяц назад
Me too
@gigia9515
@gigia9515 Месяц назад
@@anemostrofylos exactly, maybe Alex was to do her in too in Las Vegas. I remember something odd happened there. She was starting to ask questions.
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
I think Alex was Zullema’s 5th husband, Chad wanted them all married within the group
@motherbear327
@motherbear327 Месяц назад
She was told to.
@ginawise2824
@ginawise2824 Месяц назад
How could she believe all this crap?
@rebeccamireles31
@rebeccamireles31 Месяц назад
How does she know so much about this and not be involved
@snahg2356
@snahg2356 Месяц назад
She has immunity so they can get the TRUTH from someone
@gaynordicksoncooper6108
@gaynordicksoncooper6108 Месяц назад
I know that’s exactly what I thought
@sherrycostonde
@sherrycostonde Месяц назад
All the while these ppl.. the 7 gatherers were the mindless zombies
@Zeldaantibes
@Zeldaantibes Месяц назад
He had a portal!?!?!? Wtf?
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
He created them inside the closets so Lori could travel for cheaper, true! 😂
@home94595
@home94595 Месяц назад
They also did virtual nookie through the portals.
@gaynordicksoncooper6108
@gaynordicksoncooper6108 Месяц назад
@@home94595oh my days 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@usaroxx8085
@usaroxx8085 Месяц назад
Chad said that melanie gibb would be in danger if she was told JJ location, on that recorded phone call
@lindalumae
@lindalumae Месяц назад
Sounds like Zulema was Alex’s reward.
@dianedavidson7977
@dianedavidson7977 Месяц назад
No one connected people were murdered right here on earth and none of these people thought this isn't fn ok. Both Melanie's should be charged they knew exactly what was happening. Zulema could have went to the cops but who knows the cops didn't listen to Charles. When Charles was murdered Alex should have been arrested and maybe the children and Tammy would be alive. How tf do you shoot a man 2 times in the chest and call it self defense. I'm disgusted with all of these people and who believes this bs.
@dolldoll2914
@dolldoll2914 Месяц назад
👩🏻‍💻Poor Zuelema! 🤯Seeing🤯Chad's and Lori's legs entangled on the couch touching each other and🤯Hearing🤯Chad And Lori in the back seat of a car slobbering all over each other! So gross.🤢🤮🤮🤮
@georgannwayne492
@georgannwayne492 Месяц назад
None of these people could have jobs. That’s why insurance payouts were soooooo Important
@shirleybleazard8049
@shirleybleazard8049 Месяц назад
Honestly I cannot listen to this any longer!
@AnnA-tu3ig
@AnnA-tu3ig Месяц назад
Thank You!!! KNOWING what these 2 criminals did to innocent people is incomprehensible. It wasn't about religion. That was their front. It was all about sex and money. Lori was on her 5th husband. She went through them like dryer sheets without a second thought.
@taraodonovan8674
@taraodonovan8674 Месяц назад
These people are soooo narcissistic
@BlessedMomfmTexas
@BlessedMomfmTexas Месяц назад
This is absolutely Wild stuff! How or why would you believe this stuff. 🤔
@glennpearce7093
@glennpearce7093 Месяц назад
Boy you just couldn’t even write ✍️ this in aye fiction book 📚
@motherbear327
@motherbear327 Месяц назад
But it is written in a book called Visions of Glory. Lori had it with her in Hawaii when the police came to serve her court papers. It's sitting underneath her leg as they approach her.
@danielascaciotti7954
@danielascaciotti7954 Месяц назад
In my opinion , she was the best witness so far. It sounds like Chad is a very good manipulator ..
@wendywarrior2264
@wendywarrior2264 Месяц назад
Dilbert, Lori and her whole gang are coocoo!
@michelero4297
@michelero4297 Месяц назад
Maybe Chad and Lori are to gather the 144K from inside American prisons? LOL
@tracymcdonald8440
@tracymcdonald8440 Месяц назад
Like a true cult leader. If you disagree with him all of a sudden " your dark'
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
So the celestial spirit didn’t tell Chad that this lady was gonna kick his ass on the stand and put him in prison for life?😂 she’s very lucky she came out alive
@GlennPjones
@GlennPjones Месяц назад
All these disguises. She's blonde. The other is purple. Whatever
@user-ow9rj4in2g
@user-ow9rj4in2g Месяц назад
Unbelievable.......
@BrianCorntassel-zl3gy
@BrianCorntassel-zl3gy Месяц назад
So Lori steals charles' phone, then tylee threatens Charles, allegedly, Charles hits Alex, allegedly, Alex kills Charles based on a crime.
@home94595
@home94595 Месяц назад
There is testimony that she grabbed the phone from Charles. Lori was running around the kitchen island, keeping his phone away from Charles to make him angrier and angrier. She instigated the whole murder with game of phone keep away.
@dianemoore6933
@dianemoore6933 13 дней назад
Why did none of them think this was bizarre? She seems like she was on the brink of it, they were all asking about the kids, and no one thought this was odd??? Call the police!
@joanntangorra8603
@joanntangorra8603 Месяц назад
Chad was a con artist,
@c.rogers____
@c.rogers____ Месяц назад
Sounds like this m gib character needs to be prosecuted. I can't take anymore peace
@danimotherofchickens479
@danimotherofchickens479 Месяц назад
She had the most inoortang testimony to the case, turning on Lori risked her life but she still did it. Be thankful she did. It's becuase if her they started seriously investigating the kids misisng
@danimotherofchickens479
@danimotherofchickens479 Месяц назад
*imortant
@donnanaranjo2091
@donnanaranjo2091 Месяц назад
Chad manipulated everyone to his beliefs. Only God has the power to forgive sins. Alex thought he was free from sin, ridiculous. Crying was the guilt he had from all the murdering. Open your eyes people!
@mrsmarple8494
@mrsmarple8494 Месяц назад
She knew way more than what she described. I'm sure than a person like Alex would have been way more expressive when he realized that he was going to take the blunt for what he has done for them. Even if he didn't say anything directly, she would have been able to put 2 and 2 together.
@CoraJean19
@CoraJean19 Месяц назад
Oh my gosh the whole momma and daddy thing is beyond creepy!!!!!!!!! Grown adults believing this crap!!!! And grown adults calling each other momma and daddy! Just ew!
@maureenoconnor9296
@maureenoconnor9296 Месяц назад
OMG!Listening to this women is beyond torture!
@KnitzyKitzy
@KnitzyKitzy Месяц назад
2:03:44 Chad has some very horrible, disturbing fantasies.
@kwitecontrary
@kwitecontrary Месяц назад
Will someone please tell her to stop saying UMmmm
@lidiagutierrez7983
@lidiagutierrez7983 Месяц назад
UMmmm….ok 😂
@cookie_dough_hangover
@cookie_dough_hangover Месяц назад
She did the same at Lori's trial.
@lisaadams6753
@lisaadams6753 Месяц назад
Yes, I was really irritated by that too. She sounds like a 12-year-old but when I listen to her whole testimony, I have to say she is a freaking hero. To be so open and humble and admit that you were an idiot is pretty hard.
@natalieaguirre8576
@natalieaguirre8576 Месяц назад
Zulema likely would have been deemed dark by Chad for Alex. But only after she signed life insurance docs. She's lucky to be alive and not charged for her knowledge of their behavior & not reporting it
@Bella-1969
@Bella-1969 27 дней назад
Craziness beyond the comprehension!?! So scary and sad.
@tracymcdonald8440
@tracymcdonald8440 Месяц назад
Ironic none of chads kids were " dark" how convenient.
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