We are made in the image of God. Body, soul and spirit. My body is not my soul, my soul is not my spirit but all three are me. Jesus is the express image of God manifest in the flesh, the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Jesus is the Sabbath, circumcision and the Passover. Jesus is God. Jesus is the name above every other name.
@@NaCl_Salt Jesus is not God the Father, every person worshipping and praising Jesus as God the Father is allowing themselves to be led down the wide path.
Exmormon now a born-again Christian a friend sent me this video on Facebook and I held back tears so many times you were so loving sharing the gospel with this young man I am going to be praying for him❤
Amen. Without my dad praying for me for 25 some odd years I don't know if I would've come to know my Lord Jesus Christ. Intercessory prayer is powerful
I agree. Nice young man. I don’t know many Jehova witnesses that are mean, or criminals. They just ( in my opinion ) don’t believe Jesus is part of the Trinity. Which is all God in different forms. Jesus must be accepted and asked for forgiveness of Sin. I wonder how many Jehova Witnesses are secretly Christian?
@@dalepxp8963 ...all of them, and it's not a secret. It's on their website. If you're asking how many of them are your specific flavor of christian, it's really weird that you would assume any of them are. I wonder how many of the people that go to your church are secretly Hindus?
Amen! God bless you dear Wyatt. May today be the day of your salvation! 🙏❤️ Well done Russell! Grace to you both & peace in Christ Jesus our Lord & Savior!
I recently tried to witness to a Jahova witness and even though I was able to do so, it definitely helped me to understand I need to know about the Bible and how ro witness specifically to them. They will be back to chat to hear why JESUS is God. Where should I start?
I'm an ex-Jehovahs Witness, and in their Bible - the New World Translation - they have changed John 1:1 and added "a god" (complete with lower case "g"). That's why that confused the lad, because he would have never seen it before, unfortunately. The New World Translation changes every scripture that refers to Christ's deity sadly. I hope you planted a seed, and he does his own research. God bless
Everybody who’s ever told me that John 1:1 is wrong in the NWT stops short of actually trying to demonstrate that, either because they can read Greek as well as they read hieroglyphs, or because they know that the original doesn’t support the rendering into English of “was God”, without ignoring some pretty significant Koine grammar clauses, a whole word, and the rest of the chapter, not least of which verse 18 which shows how Christ could not possibly have been God. And as little bonus, in John 1:1 the two occurrences of “God” (Greek, the·osʹ, θεόν) at John 1:1 are grammatically different. In the first occurrence, the word “God” is preceded by the Greek definite article.(τον) while the definite article ὁ [ho] is not used in front of theos when applied to the Son, the Word. του Θεού = God θεός = god See this from Biblehub, a generally excellent Bible source, and the way that they have rendered those two words. Now see this, 2 Corinthians 4:4 ανάμεσα στους οποίους ο **θεός** αυτού του συστήματος πραγμάτων έχει τυφλώσει τις διάνοιες των απίστων Which god is being spoken of here, do you think? Is it Almighty God? Jesus? Or somebody else?
@@Jehovahswitnesss Few trinitarians will sit still for this accurate explanation of John 1:1. Another example, a long with hundreds of others, is found at Psalms 110:1. King James uses the title lord twice, one Is printed in all capital letters, while the other is not. The New World Translation clarifies this verse. It's all about studying ALL of the bible if one is sincerely looking for the truth. Great witness, brother!
Interesting I didn’t realize that there was a movement like this. I have just always thought that pro life was the only movement against abortion. I’m very interested in the abolitionist movement. Thank you for speaking truth in a crazy world.
Thank you guys for all yall do! As someone who has only recently come to faith I am so thankful that yall are out there putting the words of our lord to action. It is truly inspiring.
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. Jesus is NOT God himself. Hosea 11:9 states "For I am God and not man,The Holy One in your midst;" GOD is NOT MAN/HUMAN. And GOD does not change, so are you thinking GOD is a liar and changed?
@Mr. D. C. Jesus also quotes God threw out the bible in ways no man should have been able to he also brought lazareth back from the dead something only God can do.. I may be new to my faith, but it is a unwavering faith that will not be shifted or moved so easily
@@mr.d.c.1914.1 dude... have you ever read Hosea? It's a monstrous book where god threatens his people with some of the most disgusting things I can imagine, including, but not limited to ripping pregnant women open and smashing babies against rocks. ...This is the god you serve, a god of slavery, genocide, and well... just read hosea. End of the day though, you really don't have to worry because the entire christian religion is 11 shades of silly, and this monstrous god just doesn't exist. Think for yourself people, read your bibles (all of it). Don't just read the warm and fuzzy verses your pastor gives you, read the whole thing, and then ask yourself if this is a consistent god. Ask if this whole weird system they've come up with makes sense. Ask yourself if in any other context a story about a talking snake talking one of your ancestors into eating a fruit so now you're cursed and only killing a god will break the curse would be a reasonable explanation for the world we currently see.
The slavery abolitionists were few, but they grew. We too will grow and will abolish the genocide of our youngest in society. Thank you for starting this channel
@@BrockJamesStory I believe you might be referring to socioeconomic status, which would possibly be true if the people involved were not the one's making the decision, but they are and they have their reasons. Far beit from me to tell these people they can't do something that might save their own life, if not literally, then metaphorically.
@@brianmoore6490 your free to post whatever it was again because I didn’t report anything.. However how the person got into their specific social class doesn’t matter, what matters is that we think we have the right to kill them because they are in that social class. Which is genocide
As an ex-Mormon, I greatly appreciate how you spoke to this young man and shared the true gospel. I had several people try to explain the true gospel to me in love over the years and I couldn't understand it. However, all these experiences planted seeds to where finally the Lord through life experiences, study, prayer, etc. brought me out from the false traditions/gospel I was raised in directly to him and the true gospel, saved by grace through our saviour Jesus Christ, and not by works, so that no man should boast.
I’m very glad that you are happy and worshiping God, but The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints does not say that we are saved by our own works. If you were told that then they were wrong
@@dixonpaul871 I spent over 30 years as an adult in the church. VERY active, holding about every calling a woman can have. I know very well what the church teaches.
@@swisscheeseplease97Some "Christian" sects completely disregard what Jesus is about and claim a false Jesus....mormons for example. And Jehovah witnesses are closer to Muslims than any part of Christianity.
@@swisscheeseplease97if one group of people believe Jesus is God and another group believes Jesus is not God, those two group have foundationally different belief systems and follow foundationally different Jesuses
@@Thyalwaysseekwhat false messages of the Pharisees are you referring to? Russel was preaching the same message that Jesus taught, which was that he is God, and the Pharisees tried to have him stoned for it, and eventually conspired with Rome to have him crucified.
@@Thyalwaysseek For starters, Titus 2:13 says, “and awaiting the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ”. Only the Watchtower Society adds the word “of” before Jesus Christ to this verse (dishonestly) to make it look like two people. They even insert it into their version of the Greek interlinear, when NO OTHER INTERLINEAR shows that “of” - simply because it’s not there. And, if you’re in the Greek Interlinear, you may as well check out John 1:1 - “ In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. Here, the WT messed up, and forgot to add the word “a” to the Interlinear (which isn’t there, because it isn’t meant to be there.) From there, it’s just a hop and a skip over to John 8:58, where the leaders wanted to stone Jesus for blasphemy in claiming to be God - “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Only God can call Himself, “I AM”. See Exodus 3:14. There are many more examples, and I will now be praying that the Holy Spirit opens YOUR eyes to the true triune nature of the God of the Bible!
People took God's command seriously and got out of religions (Revelation 18:4). That is how these became his last days' Witnesses. (Isaiah 43:10). How many TRUTH can there be?
This was epic! So casual and clear! Praying for Wyatt and everyone on my mom's side of the family! It took me about 10 years after salvation and baptism into a Christian church to accept Jesus as God. I would read something in the Bible and flirt hard with the idea, but one day I had read so much evidence that i couldn't deny it anymore and declared it and I felt transformed and shortly after i was able to share the scriptures that proved Father Son Holy Spirit is God to my mom when i would have been afraid to before! Anyway i loved this!! ❤
I love that so much! "Let the word of God teach you the truth about God, instead of the word of men." I've raised all of my children on this exact principle. Amen, Brother Russell!!
I've been told the bible is "the word of God" yet it is written through men. How does one find/hear the word of God without the mouths and writing of men? Am I missing something?
@@crusherfire1 Ok. So God can speak through men if he wills it via the Holy Spirit? Do you have a good website, book, etc to direct towards, for a better understanding.
@Spookdookin The bible itself really is the best source for understanding this concept. I would recommend reading the gospels. (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John)
Please also pray for my nephew Wyatt. He was born into a very religious JW family. My entire family is JW and they seem stuck in it. I hope that Wyatt can break out, and be an example to his parents. Great video, I'm hoping you made an impact on his beliefs and ignorance of what he believes.
Do you believe the Bible? You should put your bias aside and take the time to *really listen* to what your family we have to say before make make decitions like you haev. Get all relavant infrmation from the source not from people who have grudge.
@@watchtowerdefence571 What bias? I was born a JW, my bias would be towards JW than another religion. The cult you're in is very manipulative, but you can't see it unless you peek through the curtains. Unfortunately you seem too scared to do that. You should put away your bias my fellow brother in Christ. God bless you, may you repent and believe in the God-Man.
@@VeryMuchSaab Again I will ask you - Do you believe the Bible? JWs do ad you should know that. We follow what the Bible says not what man made tradition says. Yes I have "peeked through the curtain" and what I see is a lot of misinformation skilfully put together to device. I find it so sad that you have been deceived by the misinformation that you have found on the internet. If you want to enjoy life the way God intended than you should do more research and you will find that JWs teach the truth about God and Jesus and what God requires for salvation.
This young man clearly is just trying his best. He cant really give you any definitive answers because of his lack of experience. There is much to learn from all around us though and to remain humble at all times. Truth will reveal itself in the end.
You’re a very heads up kid Wyatt. Russell told you straight up. And what was admirable about you was your willingness to engage in civil discourse. Listening to another side of things. You didn’t pitch a fit or fly into a tantrum. Whether you’ve gone back and reread your Bible and searched your heart about what he said remains to be seen. But your maturity level for a 16 yr old male is impressive. Your parents should at least be proud of that! ✌️
Matthew 16:13-17(King James) "When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN." John 20:17(King James) "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to MY FATHER: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, and YOUR FATHER; and to MY GOD, and YOUR GOD." John 20:30,31(King James) "And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD; and that believing ye might have life through his name."
Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Hebrews 1:8-9 (KJV) But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
I just had some JW come to the porch and speak to me and I came back to this video to see Russell’s approach to sharing the gospel of Christ with these folks.
🎤↘️ We put our Faith in Jesus, because He Is God. I've been watching apologetics and going to church consistently for 4 years. I don't remember it ever being stated quite so clearly 👍🏡🙏🔥👏🏆
“We put our faith in Jesus, because He is God”? Okay, but how is he God? Because he called God, who is his Father, “the ONLY true God” (John 17:3)… Then he calls Him “my God” in John 20:17, and in Revelation 3:12. So then, are you inferring that God has a God?… or that there are two Gods? Because the Bible says, “For there is ONE God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5). I’ve been listening to this man speaking to the JW, and I hear a whole lot of confusion coming out of his mouth. There is not one place in scripture that says “God is tri-personal”. That’s major error, and adding to the word of God.
@@david_adoptee it's all over the old testament and new. Plenty plenty plenty (see what happened there?) of discussion all over the place about the 3 natures of God. It's all throughout nature too. The heavens and earth declare the holiness of God.
@@cheerfulmouse Huh?? It’s all over the Old Testament and New Testament? Where??? There’s absolutely no discussion ever about “three natures of God” in the holy scriptures. Have you even read through the whole Bible to know of these scriptures you can point to? You literally have to go outside of scripture to find a “triune personal” God. Do you believe that the Bible is the word of God? That everything that is contained in it came from God? And if any one adds to it, he will be found as a liar (Proverbs 30:6)? Here’s something that is actually written in it: “If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God: ….” (1 Peter 4:11) …. This means exactly what it says… speak the things that God HAS said. There’s absolutely not ONE place in the scriptures where God describes Himself as being three persons. You have to completely ignore the doctrine of Christ in order to defend the false doctrine of the trinity. AND i have shown you things that Jesus Christ actually said - word for word, about God being one. And our Lord never called himself God. Men have assumed that because they err by not knowing how to rightly divide the word of truth. When Rome corrupted the Christian faith, all they had to do, was push the same narrative as the rest of the pagan world, making God into a similitude of deities.. and thus it would cause Christians to disregard the Shema. Yet Jesus Christ said that was the first (greatest) commandment. And as the Lord Jesus Christ also said, “….and the scripture cannot be broken;” (John 10:35). So that makes the doctrine of the trinity a disobedient dogma. Do you even know where the trinity came from? Actually, I know that you don’t, because if you did, you wouldn’t be worshipping it anymore. The trinity came from ancient Babylon. Nimrod (the king of Babylon), who began the building of the Tower of Babel, had impregnated his wife, Semiramis, shortly before he died. And since he was worshipped as god, among the heathen, and his wife being the queen of Babylon, she conceived a plan in order to keep herself reining in their wicked kingdom. She said that the child in her womb was Nimrod (a reincarnation). I’m going to cut this short, but you can research this if you’d like to learn, and come out of her (mystery Babylon)…. Semiramis represents the holy spirit, Nimrod represents God, and Tammuz (their child) represents the son of God by calling him “god the son”, aka “the sun god”, being both the father AND the son. Even the man attempting to evangelize the kid in this video, who is also a poor confused soul, said something like “we don’t really know how all that works, but we just believe it, and it just makes sense” …. WHAT?? How can something you don’t even understand how it works, make sense? What a senseless act! 🤦🏻♂️ My friend, that is absolutely dangerous. God is not the author of confusion, and that’s exactly what the Trinity is.. confusion.
@@cheerfulmouse by the way, the passage you were referring to says: “The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament sheweth his handywork.” ~ Psalm 19:1 KJV “The heavens and earth declare the holiness of God.” ….. ☝️That is not speaking as the oracles of God.
Person(?) speaks past commenter. Posts questions... . Do they actually care? Seems not... . Wants commenter to prove the trinity in the YT comments section of a video short. . Completely disregards direction from commenter to seek out many many many learned and intelligent sources on the topic. Also, seems to insist that every reference from the Holy Bible be noted and used explicitly in conversation, while completely missing, that commenter is summarizing the Bible's theme as a whole on the idea. I didn't say anything wrong, and whatever 👆 was above was definitely not a gentle rebuke. Not wasting any more time on responding to senseless claims here. Especially without charity. Thank you ❤️🙏
I also read in Rev ch.1 the figure walking among the candlesticks who said "I am Alpha and Omega" and in v18 said "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore" which shows us it is Christ, who is the Alpha and Omega as God.
I was around his age when I left. Was also born in the church growing up. Gave my life to Jesus 2 months away from a year ago. I was ignorant of Salvation through Jesus preaching because I was convinced that JW was the truth. Now realizing what is the truth, I’m thankful I am where I am now. God bless
You really need to do your homework better, JWs do have the truth, Yes JWs teach that salvation is only through Jesus. If you ever thought we taught something different then you never really know what JWs teach
@@AbolitionistsRising the guy I would’ve recommend to the young man would’ve been James white! That guy is such a blessing to the body in regards to cults!
@Enlightened91 Dude, I didn't cast assumptions about you and your fate. I pointed out your lack of understanding or communication. And your response is, "You're going to hell?" And I'm the one mislead? 😕 May God lead us all to the truth.
@@AliAntarAllahsServant well you're in the wrong it's not a contradiction you're saved from the result of having faith in Jesus death burial and resurrection and in result to your faith you receive Jesus' righteousness on you as an atonement for your sins. So it's not a contradiction to say your faith brings God's grace and mercy on you. Either you pay for your sins for all eternity in Hell or Jesus paid for your sins. Everyone has a choice whether they want to put all their trust in the finished works of Jesus and go to Heaven or they can put their trust in their own works and go to Hell. Only God can live a perfect life and Jesus is God in the flesh
@Enlightened91 You said "grace and faith", not grace and mercy. Which can be compared but not grace the other way around. Do you read what you write, or just regurgitate it? 🤔
There are so many scriptures that describe three separate beings, God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. God said, Let us make man in our image, Gen. 1:26. man is become as one of us, to know good and evil, Gen. 3:22. This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, Matt. 3:17 not mine to give, but … of my Father, Matt. 20:23. not as I will, but as thou wilt, Matt. 26:39. baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Matt. 28:19 called the Son of the Highest, Luke 1:32. Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove, Luke 3:22. Son can do nothing … but what he seeth the Father do, John 5:19. Father that sent me beareth witness of me, John 8:18. I and my Father are one, John 10:30. believe the works … that the Father is in me, John 10:38. a voice from heaven, saying, I have … glorified it, John 12:28. my Father is greater than I, John 14:28.
The Trinity is not even in the bible. It's actually more confusing to believe that Jesus and God are the same. Who did Jesus pray to while on earth? Why did he always give credit to God. I mean I get that it's what they're taught, it's a very pervasive false teaching.
@@graxo3752the absolute worst part to me is that those who are taught a blatant contradiction of the Word often aren’t wise enough to seek the truth on their own, but instead turn against Christianity as a whole rather than that specific teaching. I would love for this doctrine that causes a stumbling block to so many to cease forever, but all we can do is educate and guide towards Christ’s actual teaching and message.
@@graxo3752 ??????????????? who said the Father and Jesus were the same being. You just done the usual JW Watchtower thing and get it totally wrong! Do me a favour if you want to talk about a subject please do some research before you make a silly comment, its quite disrespectful to try and talk about something that you dont have a clue about. What you described is what watchtower teaches is the Trinity when infact its modalism another heresy, just like Watchtower teachings.
When someone called Jesus good, "Don't call me good for The Father is the only one that is good." Why would He say that He himself is not good if He is God The Father?
@@NotPCandnotadelusionalenabler unfortunately this is where we disagree. I think it’s impossible to live a life without sin unless one is fully God, which is what Jesus did. Jesus also says that the Father and Him are one.
@@michaelbrunsdon8938most bibles say that they have taken the name of God out and replaced it with LORD. All the original Hebrew translations have God's name YHWH. Now today we use the word Jehovah in English. Even the dead sea scrolls have the original translation of God's name in it. Nowadays they remove the name. The king James Bible has the name Jehovah at Ps. 83:18, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 12:2, Isaiah 26:4
Show some respect to other faiths if you wish to convince someone, all the stars have a name, all god's angels have a name, god knows our name before we are born, one of the first tasks he gives humanity is to name his creations and you truly believe god does not have a name before supposedly Maria gave him the name of Jesus@@michaelbrunsdon8938
no, he was expressing his religious beliefs, which are just as valid as yours. Personally, I think they're both pretty silly, but at least the JWs don't traumatize children into thinking their non-believer friends and loved ones are going to burn forever in lake of fire.
@@nathanjohnson9715No they don’t teach that but they do tell you that your loved ones will be destroyed In Armageddon at any moment to never exist again. 🙃
@@ExposingJWTeachings As someone who has spent the better part of 20 years around witnesses, not once have I heard one of them speculate who will be “destroyed” and who won’t. That’s contradictory to a basic tenet of witnesses and what they believe which is that no human is in any place to speak for God or what his intentions might be. Not sure what you’ve been told or what third party stories you look for, but that is most certainly not a general principle of witnesses and their theology.
I love how, although you say you don’t know about Jehovah’s Witnesses and haven’t studied what they believe, your first and immediate reaction to Wyatt (who seems very nice) saying Jesus isn’t God is: shock and puzzlement as to how their sins can be forgiven. I love that you didn’t need to study the Jehovah’s Witness religion - but just immediately reacted with this huge question: Well then how are your sins forgiven??? I’ve studied what JWs believe and watched hours and hours and hours of many (great) ways to show their beliefs are biblically false - but I just love how simple and direct your reaction/question was. A beautiful, calm, loving conversation. Thank you for modelling how we should have such conversations. May God bless you and your loved ones and the ministry God has given you abundantly!
Major props for getting out there and witnessing. Some feedback would be to change your- “i think” or “i believe” to, the bible says (with authority). And also quoting scripture is powerful and citing verses. Especially to believers of God with a skewed theology (jehovah’s witness etc. )
I mean it thinks it better showing what’s in the actual bible. Than just saying it’s in there. so we agree to disagree. I wish more people would do that
Speaking of the Trinity, it's important to examine the historical context around the development of that doctrine. As some academics point out, the religious landscape in the early Roman Empire provides an intriguing backdrop. Bart Ehrman and Richard Rubenstein note the influence of 4th century imperial politics on views of Christ's divinity. The Trinity took multiple centuries to fully develop, as the Oxford Handbook explains, shaped by Greek philosophy and Roman power. However, while this context prompts analysis, accusations of corruption require careful evidence, as John McGuckin's writings show. Debates around divine identity were complex, and the Council of Nicaea aimed to settle them. Though as Willie James Jennings argues, the Trinity expressed political concepts of the time. This nuanced research reminds us to thoughtfully analyze the Trinity's origins without assumptions. We cannot definitively prove doctrinal alterations. But acknowledging the social setting provides perspective as we examine verses like John 1:1 centuries later. When looking closely at the Greek grammar of John 1:1, we find some interesting things. The Greek lacks the definite article "the" before "God" when referring to the Word (Jesus). This suggests it is describing his divine qualities, not equating him as the one God. Here, let me break down a more accurate translation of John 1:1 based on the grammar: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and the Word was divine. To break it down: Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος - "In the beginning was the Word" καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν - "and the Word was with the God" (literally "the God" with definite article) καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος - "and the Word was divine" (no definite article before θεός, so it does not denote identity but qualities/nature) The key points are: The Word (ὁ λόγος) was pre-existent in the beginning The Word was with "the God" (τὸν θεόν), meaning the one true God The Word had qualities and nature of divinity (θεὸς being without the definite article) So in the original Greek, John isn't unambiguously saying Jesus is fully "the God", but rather portraying his divine nature while distinguishing him from "the God" mentioned earlier. This doesn't rule out his divinity but certainly challenges later Trinitarian theology...
Notice he never disclosed that they think Jesus is the incarnate Michael the Arch Angel. It’s because they can’t substantiate it with scripture. I’m an ex JW who God saved by his good grace and I talk to them all the time for my own ministry. Let me know if you need any approaches to deal with their arguments. I appreciate your gracious conversation with them. That was once me!
Hii i would love to know how to talk with one What were your key words that changed your mind ? I had some JW at the door 2weeks ago and they come with a scheme of points they go trough with you and I tried of explaining them and I was running out of time cause I had to go somewhere and I told them to come back soon so we can talk about it , so if you can your answers would be much appreciated by me
@@anyabrotnei7673, ultimately they need to hear the Gospel of Grace which has the power to save. However there are a few of their important doctrines to discuss with them so you will need to decide which one you will want to prepare for and address. I will list them below. 1. Jesus is Michael the arch Angel God’s first and greatest creation. 2. Jesus didn’t rise physically but as a spirit only appearing to be physical. 3. Salvation by works, treatment of the anointed, affiliation and obedience to the organization… 4. Jesus is only the mediator for the 144,000. 5. The Governing Body is the Faithful and Discreet Slave prophesied in Matthew 24:45 and therefor God’s chosen channel of dispensing truth to humanity. Personally I enjoy discussing #4 with them because the average JW thinks Jesus is their mediator but their literature teaches something very different. So it’s always good to show them something from their own teaching that they themselves aren’t really aware of.
@@Born_From_Above thank you so much for the above , to you personally what convinced you amd it was an AHA moment for you that you realized Jesus was in fact God ?
In my encounters with Jehovah's witnessess the majority are nice well meaning people who have been deceived and its diabolical. Pray that Christ reveals himself to this lad. (Wyatt) in Jesus name Amen
@@owencook592 : Still avoiding answering the question. Who are Jesus' ONE UNITED GROUP of Disciples in these last days carrying out God's Will? Compare Matthew 24:14. It is obvious that it is JWs. If someone disputes that fact, then he should come out will an alternative. Any help?
OK I'm not avoiding just don't feel like a typing debate. Alright who is Jesus good point ur Jesus is created mine is an uncreated creator. Yours is a god and mine is The encarnate God. Most JW's don't read the verses that I am about to show so let's see if you are different... If you read Isaiah 43 vs 10 - Jehovah says "before him there was no god formed nor shall there be after him." That in of itself destroys the fact that Jesus was made after. Isaiah 43 vs 11 - also stipulates that Jehivah alone is the Saviour yet Jesus is Saviour that isn't a title that can be shared. "I even I and Jehovah apart from Me there is no saviour." Unless you don't believe in the authority of scripture. Isaiah 44 vs 6 - Jehovah says "I am the first and I am the last " Again Isaiah 48 vs 12 " I am the first and I am the last" Now clearly Jehovah is sharing these titles yet let's look at Revelations.... Revelations 1 vs 8 - we see the same language being used here " I am the Alpha and Omega" Who did we say can only be the first and the last Revelation 1 vs 17 to 18 - Now did Jehovah ever die? Revelation 1:17-18 " When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades." Still doubt? Revelations 22 vs 13 - "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
When was the beginning? John 1 vs 1 in the beginning.... you know the rest. I know u don't believe that was the actual beginning just like you don't believe in 6 literal day's of creation in the beginning. It just seems to me u deny the authority of God's word everywhere. God spelt it out for us in Genesis 1vs 5 - "God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning-the first day." See not millions of years but one day. Evening and morning on the first day ! Cheers
Jesus died for our sins as an equal ransom for Adam. A perfect man for a perfect man. If God sacrificed himself, that would be overpayment. Jesus can forgive sins because he has been entrusted with all authority in heaven. Jehovah gave Jesus this as his reward. If Jesus was God, he wouldn’t need to be given anything.
@@springy77 It 100% is a cult. Their teachings are completely unscriptural. In fact, you can already know that it's not the correct teachings of the Bible based on when it was founded. It originated in the 1870s. So if they are the only ones who are correct about the Bible, then everyone before them were all wrong. I don't think so.
I am also an XJW. I really appreciate it this video. Compassion and understanding showed this young man was fantastic. Love your channel. Would love to get involved in the abolitionist movement. Taking recruits?
There is a familial appeal for the Mormon religion that will keep them in darkness. But Jesus taught that we would forsake even our families to follow Him. It is hard to walk away from that community and all it offers by believing in the biblical Christ. Great interaction having little to know about the many of their doctrines you were lead to speak on the paramount one. It is easy to expose a counterfeit by knowing the genuine article.
For those who understand the concept of truth must understand that God 0:02 cannot lie .when God spoke to Moses and told him that no man can see his face and live . Was God lying to Moses? I say this because we know from the scripture that many saw Jesus and walked with him. If he is God then why didn’t all those people die ? The conclusion is that Jesus is not the almighty God but his son a different being from God. Or are those who insist that Jesus is God have to accept that God lied to Moses. God certainly did not lie to Moses because no man can see God. Please stop lying about are Heavenly Father and his son our savior. They are two separate beings with the same purpose to rescue mankind from the effects of sin. All praise be to them.
Would you consider a miscarriage to be the lords abortion…a crass statement for sure, but isn’t it somewhat valid???? I really enjoy your vids and point of view btw.
Miscarriage is an anomaly where the body rejects the zygote/fetus as a foreign object. It's totally unexpected and is considered a spontaneous abortion. Unfortunately, we live in a fallen creation where there is sickness and death. Just my two cents. Very fair and understandable question and comment though.
Also things happen like deformation or ectopic pregnancies. It's incredibly sad and I do believe that this happens because we live in a fallen world. Same with cancer and every other medical disease. It is appointed for man to die once and then judgment. Through Adam we are born into sin and the wages of sin is death. Through faith in Christ we are born again into life and forgiveness of sin. Our bodies are still under the curse but our spirit is reborn and is eternal. I believe that it is God's call when we go, either at 96 by cardiac arrest or a few weeks old in the womb. This is just my 2 cents. God bless.
Not valid at all. Your clearly looking to trigger an emotional response. An Abortion is man made, it is not natural. A miscarriage happens due to many natural effects. Is the miscarriage part of the will of GOD, absolutely but calling it His (abortion) is just stupid. Definition and Context matter.
I respect the fact that this man made the time and he’s not being rude. He’s speaking the truth in love. Jehova W , Mormons, New Agers etc are God’s Prodigals created in His image. Though their faith is misled I respect their commitment to the god they serve. We need more Christians out here sharing the Gospel of Christ application is crucial it’s a commandment Jesus gave to ALL believers. Bear fruit I pray the Lord convicts more believers to step out in faith in Christ Jesus name 🙏🏽🎚️
They teach that Jesus was Michael the archangel before he came to earth. As a man, he was Jesus, then he was raised a spirit being (NOT bodil y) and is now Michael the archangel again. They truly teach this heresy. Pray for the rank and file who are being deceived.
And before he was crucified, when everyone accused him of telling people he was God, he corrected them by saying " I am merely the son of god" so if Jesus was God n told people he wasn't, is that not a lie? I haven't read anywhere Jesus claiming to be God. But he is omnipotent and literally transcends time, space, n matter. There for can do anything he wants so. Jesus could be God but, I don't think so.
Christ literally told the religious leaders that, "before Abraham was, I am". Pilate asked out right if Jesus was The Son of God and Jesus acknowledged. Heck, even in the Old Testament Christ is mentioned
@John Miltner You're confused in Thinking only God the Father is God. When we say Jesus is God. We don't mean he's the Father in Heaven. We believe he is God the Son who came in the Flesh. We believe God as a whole is God The Father,God The Son and in God The Holy Spirit.
@@professorx7398 The Expository Times, 1996, page 302 by Kenneth Mckay. *"in John 8:58: prin Abraam genesthai ego eimi, which would be most naturally translated* *'I have been in existence since before Abraham was born', if it were not for the obsession with the simple words 'I am'." . . . "If we take the Greek words in their natural meaning, as we surely should, the claim to have been in existence for so long is in itself a staggering one, quite enough to provoke the crowd's violent reaction."* On the translating of EGO EIMI at John 8:58 by Dr Jason BeDuhn “Truth in Translation”: *"John 8:58. The traditional translation "Before Abraham was, I am" is slavishly faithful to the literal meaning of the Greek ("Before Abraham came to be, I am"). The result is ungrammatical English. We cannot mix our tenses in such a way. The reason for this ugly rendering is the accident that, in English, the idiomatic "I am" sounds like what God says about himself in the Hebrew/Old Testament. This is sheer coincidence. Jesus is not employing a divine title here. He is merely claiming that he existed before Abraham and, of course, he still exists whereas Abraham is dead. There is nothing wrong with the Greek, but we need to take account of the Greek idiom being employed and render the meaning into proper English.* Likewise, A Grammar of New Testament Greek, by J. H. Moulton, Vol. III, by Nigel Turner, Edinburgh, 1963, p. 62, says: *“The Present which indicates the continuance of an action during the past and up to the moment of speaking is virtually the same as Perfective, the only difference being that the action is conceived as still in progress . . . It is frequent in the N\[ew\] T\[estament\]: Lk **2:48**; 13:7 . . . **15:29** . . . Jn 5:6 ; **8:58** . . . ”* “I am” Tense - Present The present tense represents a simple statement of fact or reality viewed as occurring in actual time. In most cases this corresponds directly with the English present tense. Some phrases which might be rendered as past tense in English will often occur in the present tense in Greek. These are termed "historical presents," and such occurrences dramatize the event described as if the reader were there watching the event occur. Some English translations render such historical presents in the English past tense, while others permit the tense to remain in the present. As A Grammar of the Idiom of the New Testament, by G.B.Winer says: *" Sometimes the Present includes also a past tense (Mdv. 108), viz. when the verb expresses a state which commenced at an earlier period but still continues, a state in its duration; as,* *John. xv. 27 .....viii. 58."* Ask or tell any English teacher. 'Before you came, I am' They will be quick to tell you, you are using improper English. "I am" may be proper Greek, but it isn't proper English. Add to the this is Jehovah at Ex 3:14, didn't say, 'I am' he said, 'I shall' or 'I will' For Jesus to have been quoting Ex 3:14, he would have had to say, 'Before Abraham, I will'.
What's your point? I could fill a tome with the number of changes that have been made to the "standard" kjv bible from the original manuscripts. Your holier than thou attitude here is not justified. Both you and the jw beliefs are equally silly.
@@nathanjohnson9715 Can you share some of these "Changes"? The KJV is considered the best 'word for word' translation as compared to original manuscripts.
The Bible clearly says; “So the Word became flesh and resided among us,” (John 1:14) And again in 1 John 4: 2 “YOU gain the knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God,” And again: 2 John 7 “For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” The Word, Jesus Christ became flesh. It doesn’t say God became flesh. You extrapolate that from your wrong understanding and being falsely taught that “the Word is God“. If you read the entire Gospel of John, you will see that Jesus is NOT God himself, but the one sent by God himself. You will see that the Father is the only true God. John lays out his Gospel out to let everyone know that “Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God” and not God the Son. (John 20:31)
This world hates the truth and seeks to kill the one who preaches it. Tell this world a Lie and they will applaud you and make you king. Thank you Jesus Christ for calling me out of this world, thank you Russell for Bearing your Cross.
I am LDS Christian. We also don't believe in the trinity. Simple reason that the sacrifice of Jesus is sufficient is because He volunteered to be the sacrifice, He was prepared for it before this life, He was without sin in this life, and most of all because God the Father has told us so. Really none up us understand the depth or breadth of the Atonement what makes it possible or how it works, beyond the simple truths God has told of it.
My sister and her family are Jehovah Witnesses and they have their own interpretation of the Bible. They misinterpret the 144,000 even though the book says it's Jewish men, not everyone. Also, i remember my sister praying to Jehovah, but recently they pray to Jesus so they've changed their "rules" at some point. But yeah, if Jesus isn't God, then why pray to him or think your sins are forgiven?
Hebrews 1:3-8 and Philippians 2:5-11 King James Version (KJV) ALSO, Exodus 3:14King James Version (KJV) 14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. John 8:58King James Version (KJV) 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.” John 15:1 “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.” John 14:6 “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies.” John 11:25 “I am the gate; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” John 10:9 “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for His sheep.” John 10:11 “I am the light of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.” John 8:12 I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger.” John 6:35 Jesus, God come in the flesh is Lord and the only way.
Witnesses don’t pray to Jesus, they pray through him. That’s why the conclusion of most of their prayers are worded as “through your loving son” or something of the like. Jesus is the mediator, he says as much in John 16:23. People who don’t subscribe to the trinity pray to God in his son’s name, not to Jesus as though he himself is God.
@Kylie Lebid well, they say, "in Jesus's name". This confuses me as they used to believe that Jesus was a created being and really the Archangel Michael. But everything about a man made religion is confusing.
@@Sky_KingMV Precisely, in his name, not to him. The beginning of their prayers will often start with dear Heavenly Father Jehovah, and conclude with in Christ’s name. Jesus’ final night with the apostles he tells them whatever you ask in my name I will do this, in order that the father may be glorified in connection with the son. This was a means of opening up access to God through his son. Yes Michael is Jesus but in his prehuman existence (when Mary is visited by the angel prophesying Jesus’ birth), and Jesus being a creation would coincide with the non-trinitarian take. But true, confusion is inevitable when it comes to religion.
@Kylie Lebid but we pray "in Jesus's name". You said Michael is/was Jesus?? That can't be true as Michael is a created being, and Jesus created all things (John 1:2-3) Later in John 1:14 we learn that the "Word" became flesh (Jesus). Jesus can't create Himself. Are you a Jehovah Witness??
Wow this was really nice, you didn't seem to know much on scripture specifically on how to prove Jesus is God or maybe you just didn't go in-depth, but by God's grace you still delivered more than enough reasons why He is
THE LORD Jesus Christ Himself says that if anyone has seen Him they have seen God. JOHN 14:9 THE LORD Jesus did not use the word GOD, but he used the word THE FATHER. That's a real strong claim to make. Philip was asking Jesus to SHOW The Father (Whom we all know is GOD THE FATHER) JESUS SAID ' ........𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗺𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿' JOHN 14:8,9 𝗣𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗶𝗽 𝘀𝗮𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗶𝗺, 𝗟𝗼𝗿𝗱, 𝘀𝗵𝗲𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝘁 𝘀𝘂𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲𝘁𝗵 𝘂𝘀. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? 𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗺𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿; 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘀𝗮𝘆𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻, 𝗦𝗵𝗲𝘄 𝘂𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿?
I'm an ex-Jehovah's witness and this convo gave me another awakening. Im still trying to figure these things out. His questions are exactly what we go through as ex members. And it's hard to comprehend.
Praise be to God! Just to encourage you even more and that you are not wrong leaving the JW. Zechariah 12: 10 Jehovah says 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝗼𝗻 𝗠𝗲,𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱. (John 19:31-37) 𝗭𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗵 𝟭𝟮:𝟭𝟬 Then I will pour out on the house of David and on the people of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and prayer, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝗼𝗻 𝗠𝗲,𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱.They will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for Him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 𝗝𝗢𝗛𝗡 𝟭𝟵: 𝟯𝟲 Now these things happened so that the Scripture would be fulfilled: “Not one of His bones will be broken.” 37 𝗔𝗻𝗱, 𝗮𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗦𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗽𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝘆𝘀: “𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱.” Yes, Jesus is indeed The Son of God, God the Son(not a god or an angel. He is certainly not Michael the archangel as the JWs claim). Born of God, The Holy Spirit, forsaken by The Father for a little while, because the punishment for our sins was upon him (the punishment of the whole world's sin was upon him). As the prophet Isaiah says, Upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace ....and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all (ISAIAH 53: 5-6). ISAIAH 54: 5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and 𝘁𝗵𝘆 𝗥𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹; 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗼𝗱 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗲 𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗲 𝗯𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱. JESUS IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS THAT ARE IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH (From the OT we know Jehovah created all things) Colossians 1: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; GENESIS 1:26-27 King James Version (KJV) And God said, 𝗟𝗲𝘁 𝘂𝘀 make man 𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗶𝗺𝗮𝗴𝗲, 𝗮𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀: ISAIAH 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘂𝘀? PROOF THAT THE HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT IS JEHOVAH: ACTS 28: 25 The apostle Paul makes reference to Isaiah 6:8,9 Well 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗚𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝘆 𝗘𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗲𝘁 unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: We all know that JEHOVAH is the one who spoke through Isaiah the prophet: ISAIAH 6: 5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗲𝘆𝗲𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗞𝗶𝗻𝗴, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗢𝗥𝗗 𝗼𝗳 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁𝘀. 6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: 7And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Isaiah's Commission 8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. 9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. 2 SAMUEL 23: 1 𝗡𝗼𝘄 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗗𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗱. 𝗗𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said, 2 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝗽𝗶𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗢𝗥𝗗 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗯𝘆 𝗺𝗲, and 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗺𝘆 𝘁𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗲. 3 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗼𝗱 𝗼𝗳 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹 𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗥𝗼𝗰𝗸 𝗼𝗳 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗲, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
proverbs 3:5-6 '' 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths '' Jesus will help you take care Sister ''
Life is a school. You are here to learn just like Jesus did (He learned obedience through his suffering.) You reincarnate. "This Generation shall not pass until all is fulfilled." Life is a tough school. You are here with blinders which forces you to make choices. When you die, you then understand who you truly are.
If Jesus is the "firstborn" he has a beginning (Colosians 1:15). Now, he did receive immortality from the Father because not only he is his beloved son, but he remained loyal through all trials. After being created he collaborated with his father in the creation of everything else, even the angels (Colosians 1:16---). Jesus cannot be God because being the same entity would mean he knows and doesn't know things at the same time. This is only 1 example... In Matthew 24:36 he says even he did not know when the end would come, but only his Father. Also, he did not mention the holy spirit (which by the way appears in lower case unlike proper names, showing the translator's expert view and understanding), but only himself and the angels. Another idea that really made it clear to me is Phillipians 2:5-11. He clearly did not want to take God's place in people's minds, but he wished to fulfill his purpose > be the ransom sacrifice that would serve as a basis for forgiveness of the repentant. God payed with the life of his own son. He exemplified it when he asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. He stopped him right before he cut Isaac, but he considered that obedience as evidence of the expected faith. Lastly, Jesus prayed to Jehovah, and he knew he was being listened to. Prayer is not just a therapy where you speak to yourself, but there is a true God that hears and understands how we feel and enjoys being reached out to. So Jesus was not talking to himself, but to someone outside his nature who would support him through the difficult times he knew would come.
I really like what you're saying here.. the only thing i don't agree with you on.. is your understanding of the word person.. Persons are not people.. Persons are things.. that people can get in and out of.. Persons are to be used, bought, and sold, by people. God is not a respecter of persons.. ALL persons are man made things.. Man can only create fiction.. this is also why persons cannot have any rights.. rights cannot come from man, or man made things. persons can only have privileges and immunities. Here is a small list of persons.. Doctor, Teacher, Cop, Judge, Driver, Cashier, Cook, Pedestrian, Resident, Citizen, Minor, Father, Mother, Sister, Brother.. the list of persons are infinite.. If a shop owner finds his floors are always dirty.. he can create a person, Call it a sweeper, and he as its creator gets to control ALL aspects of His Sweeper Person.. he gets to control the When, Where, Why, What, and How it sweeps.. He gets to control what its allowed to say, look like, or even smell like. One of the people can get into his Sweeper Person, but his Sweeper Person can never be One of the People. Fiction can never become reality.. the dead cannot become the living... Side note.. the LGBTQR+xyz Have taken the wolds misunderstanding (or rather the rulers corruption of the language, to control those who must use it) of the word person.. and conflated it with Gender.. this is why there are infinite Genders.. because there are infinite Persons.. People can just think em up. Sidier note.. If persons and people are the same thing.. then the 4th Amendment is nonsense.. the people have the right to be secure in their persons.. If they are the same thing, why is there a need to say it like that? can we switch them if they are the same? The persons have the right to be secure in their people.. yeah.. thats not right.. that sounds silly, because it is.. Harry Potter cant have rights.. lol The Man inside the Harry Potter person has rights.. but cant use them unless he is out of person.. You cant have rights and privileges at the same time.. you cant serve two masters..
And just to clarify.. when i said fiction can never become reality.. the dead cannot become the living.. I meant without God.. God can do all things.. as all things seen and unseen are created by him.
People can have problems understanding the one God in three. I think this is because we see with mortal eyes and mind, God is forever and is spiritual and has closed our eyes to cause us to live in faith.
Sorry! That makes for a blind faith. Jesus and his God fearing fellow Jews KNEW whom and what they worshipped. He told the Samaritan woman: (John 4:22) You worship what you do not know; WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW, because salvation begins with the Jews. All these exercise are to MAKE Jesus into God. Which would have God worshipping God. How would that makes any sense?
Whichever path a person traverses to the point of sharing in core fundamentals of abolishinist movement is amazing. There are secular humanists who share this position from golden and silver rules of morality.
Jesus Christ is the one and only God in human flesh. He is real. He can safe you. He safed my life. I would have gone to jail and hell if it wasnt for him. He is not only the son. Jesus Christ is lord himself. And you will only go trough heaven trough him. God Bless
Just like feeding the multitudes Jesus, shedding his blood for all to come to him to cover sins, through repentance and moving forward with Christ filths Holy Spirit
