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WM210V metal lathe 

Maxim Kachurovskiy
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857 EUR / 1000 USD at www.aliexpress.com/item/32988... (Foreintel Store, seemingly defunct).
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@dandare2586
@dandare2586 2 года назад
Thank you for this, it is very helpful to see a disassembly video.
@jimbarchuk
@jimbarchuk 2 года назад
You mentioned 'totally dry, no oil or grease' several times. That's very unusual. I think you got a return. It didn't need to be broken, someone just didn't like it. Clue: the lathe manufacturer doesn't make chucks, they buy them built and already soaked in grease. That one was dry and rusty. It didn't leave either the chuck or lathe manufacturer that way.
@kwaaaa
@kwaaaa Год назад
Apparently selling returns is quite common and it should be the first thing to inspect for. I saw another youtuber's video and he also got a returned lathe sold as new, he asked for a partial refund since he decided to keep it anyway.
@igomez26
@igomez26 9 месяцев назад
well it's a lathe ru-vid.comUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Gear calculator for this lathe: kachurovskiy.com/gears/ 90€ Electronic Lead Screw for this lathe: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9uTdDk2EqG4.html / github.com/kachurovskiy/nanoels
@JesseSchoch
@JesseSchoch 3 года назад
good luck. i have one of these. the roller bearings were not mounted correctly or the seats were not square which you could see in the uneven wear pattern. i re-seated them and adjusted the preload and the spindle handles parting much better. The other key mods i did were: remove the compound and make a solid tool post block, I used shims vs the set screws on the saddle and I had to machine a new gib because the one it shipped with could not be adjusted. Put your indicator on your tool and push down on it to see how much it can move down towards the ways. The tail stock was total garbage and needed lots of rework. The gears can't do many thread pitches because the banjo is not the right size. The charts for the gears in the manual were not for a 56 tooth spindle gear and did not work. I ended up just removing the gears and installing an electronic leadscrew. the machine cuts a taper and the headstock is not square to the ways, cut a long bar stout and measure the end diameters to see if yours is cutting a taper. My chucks are decent but it is strange they sent a 3 and 4 jaw self centering vs an independent 4 jaw. anyway... good luck.
@apx5777
@apx5777 3 года назад
Just bought one on amazon not arrived yet but can't wait. Once you'd cleaned and greased or oiled the parts look great
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Congrats! Can you post a link to the Amazon listing? There's a great variety of lathes sold under the WM210V model by many different manufacturers
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 2 года назад
Just a tip; you tightened the belts up very tight... this is bad. Aluminium pulleys have a large thermal expansion in use, and the toothed belts have tensile glass fibre reinforcement that does not stretch. As a general rule, you should always run toothed belts loose enough so the belts can slide sideways on the pulleys, this allows some room for pulley expansion. If the belts are tight the pulley expansion quickly destroys the glass fibres and the belts will break.
@scottyhughes9179
@scottyhughes9179 2 года назад
a great video Maxim, thanks for your teardown, and review. I'd consider this lathe, but shipping to Canada is more than the cost of the lathe itself.
@Levisgil47
@Levisgil47 3 года назад
Bought also the same mini lathe from this saler begining of this year but haven't got time to really test it. Just made it run in box. Looks clean.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
I am guilty of buying stuff I never use too 😃
@Levisgil47
@Levisgil47 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Your video made me get back to it. Great I will soon!
@officialweldingfarmingarch2041
@officialweldingfarmingarch2041 3 года назад
Nice setup work
@yoojeahee
@yoojeahee 2 года назад
I have a plan to buy that model and I wondering how good quality your video help me alot Thanks!
@terrinewman7390
@terrinewman7390 3 года назад
ballistal? I use that on things and my fire arms here in the US!! my favorite!!
@wm210v
@wm210v 3 года назад
Поздравляю с покупкой. У меня такой же станок он супер.
@hamidullahniazi5122
@hamidullahniazi5122 2 года назад
Good explanation...
@ramonpardo9550
@ramonpardo9550 Месяц назад
Hi maxim, a question sir. Did that lathe comes with the quick change toolpost? Thanks.
@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 3 года назад
"I got it down to 2-hundrets..." This is the moment , where you face your chuck and indicate your spanning point. - because it makes a huge difference.
@hendri21
@hendri21 3 года назад
Nice overview! If I noticed rightly, you were using Liqui Moly multi-purpose grease for all gears. What kind of oil you are using to lube all lube points and slide ways?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Thank you. I've switched to Nigrin www.amazon.de/Nigrin-74145-Mehrzweckfett-Tube-250/dp/B001BAU3VY for lithium grease because it has very little smell compared to Liqui Moly - and also easier to apply from the tube. For oiling, I'm using the sliding oil I bought for the mill: www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01MZFZVPO - it almost entirely removes the "sticking" effect when a part starting moving after standing still for a while. It also has very little smell. Seems good for drilling and thread cutting too.
@rizkyfariz5730
@rizkyfariz5730 3 года назад
what is the good engine for stainless 304??
@DaveM2
@DaveM2 2 года назад
Just subscribed and I've been watching your videos most of the morning. Nice family life you've got going on there. I'm getting ready to buy my first metal lathe and I've narrowed down to the one you have and a couple others including the Grizzly G0765. Are you happy overall with your purchase, and if you had it to do over would you buy the same model? I really like what you did with all of the steppers and bearings for improved performance, which is why I'm considering going with the same so I can just follow in your footsteps.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 2 года назад
Dave, I'm not really using my lathe for any practical purpose, just playing with some parts now and then - so no expert on the subject. This exact model has gotten more expensive since I bought it (especially the shipping), today I'd probably go for www.aliexpress.com/item/678185093.html instead - it appears incredibly similar but I can't guarantee that all the 3D models will fit it perfectly since I didn't try that. Best wishes!
@DaveM2
@DaveM2 2 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Thanks Maxim, I just checked it out and it seems like the price is fine, but they want 750 to deliver to the U.S. My gut keeps pushing me to buy the Grizzly because of their customer service. Then again, I may buy one and get bored with it and then watch it collect dust. Anyway, thanks for your help.
@thechipwelder1253
@thechipwelder1253 3 года назад
I think this was a good video. :)
@tatsiboysalcedo1481
@tatsiboysalcedo1481 3 года назад
Bro i have a question something this is item is good? Because i want to buy like this machine
@guitarchitectural
@guitarchitectural 2 года назад
how do you like this lathe, one year later? I'm considering buying one to work mainly with plastics, but i do need to have good tolerances and would probably set it up with a DRO
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 2 года назад
It's a good lathe but you will have a lot of trouble fitting a DRO onto it, there's just isn't enough space, consider buying one with a DRO pre-installed.
@stanleyyeep1
@stanleyyeep1 8 месяцев назад
Thank for making this video! Nice video, Mr Maxim! I bought 1 of this lathe model VM210V also. But seems like the extra gear provided by the manufacturer to perform(cut) the metric screw thread operation on the lathe were not accurate on the pitch(I mean the gear ratio). Possible for you to share your English technical manual?(probably a link to download). Mine technical manual was given in Mandarin version, so have a hard time reading it. Thanks & appreciate in advance! Rdgs Stan😊
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 8 месяцев назад
Sorry, I don't have the manual - but you can calculate the gears for the required pitch on kachurovskiy.com/pages/gear-calculator
@Levisgil47
@Levisgil47 3 года назад
Where did you buy your quick change tool post ? Did you have to machine the piece or did it fit right away ? Great video ! Thanks
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
The 250-000 tool post and all the attachments for it are from AliExpress, too. It fits fine without any machining but the limit pin that you see sticking out from the plate on 8:28 makes it inconvenient to rotate the tool post which is not a super big deal because tool post is usually kept in place and not rotated often. What is more of a problem is that 250-000 tool post is small and flimsy i.e. it will vibrate under load and vibration breaks carbide cutters. There are some workarounds for this problem but maybe getting a slightly bigger/different tool post is a better idea 🤷
@Levisgil47
@Levisgil47 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Maybe the 250-100 but it seems that this tool post needs some work to modify it. Also some have modified the compound by adding more screws to tighten it better: fr.aliexpress.com/item/4001204070693.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.7d802e0eiUtDv0 I wonder if this one could be any better than the 250-00: fr.aliexpress.com/item/4000857204659.html?spm=a2g0w.12010612.8148356.21.447d4d6cLz8iKU
@sonogenio
@sonogenio Год назад
Ottimo lavoro è pulito 👍
@calico88
@calico88 3 года назад
I have the very similar machine, How do you adjust the gears so it will sounds smooth ? What lubricant is best for that gears ?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
To adjust the gears, put a piece of paper between them, tighten the gear nut, then remove the paper. I used Nigrin lithium grease because it smells less than other greases. Cheers!
@calico88
@calico88 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy thanks man
@williwuchtig3336
@williwuchtig3336 3 года назад
Ein guter Anfang.
@tatsiboysalcedo1481
@tatsiboysalcedo1481 3 года назад
I have a question something this item is good? i'm asking please answer answer me because i want to buy like this
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Hi, yes, this is a good lathe. It's not perfect, with more money you can buy a much heavier lathe that will be much better but that's a different story.
@X3msnake
@X3msnake 2 года назад
Q: Greetings Master, what is the maximum tool size that the stock toolpost accepts? A: At 3:33 you reply to this, sorry: 10mm is the default toolpost Q: What did you had to do be able to use the 12mm tools centered on the axis?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 2 года назад
My dear friend, you can use 12mm tools with a 250-001 tool post (see AliExpress) - but I recommend using 20mm tools as per ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2Hvbsx-P7fA.html
@ich2222
@ich2222 3 года назад
How much did you pay for shipping to germany? Atm it's more than the machine's price unfortunately
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Dominic, I paid 857€ total of which 264€ was delivery. Currently delivery is very expensive, this happened before, just check back in a few weeks. Cheers!
@ich2222
@ich2222 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@peatergriffin
@peatergriffin Год назад
Thank you, Great video. I just spent about a week looking at these little lathes and think this is the best one on Ali-express. After the last 3 years would you still recommend to buy this machine? I am a fitter/machinist so I'm capable of fine tuning and resolving issues. I just need something small in my shed for motorcycle and car parts and don't want to spend more than $1500AUD and this one is currently $1300.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy Год назад
This lathe is no longer available but similar ones are. They vary in quality. Check out Numobams brand, I believe they sell decent lathes unlike some other companies.
@peatergriffin
@peatergriffin Год назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Is there a way to reverse the lead screw on this lathe for left hand thread cutting?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy Год назад
@@peatergriffin no - but don't pay for those cheap gearboxes, they are no use, just get an after-market electronic leadscrew. There are many including ones I offer on kachurovskiy.com/
@peatergriffin
@peatergriffin Год назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Thank you very much. Yes I saw alot of bad reviews on that version. I think I found this same lathe from a seller called CNC QIYI TOOL Store. I appreciate the video and response.
@aunapalm
@aunapalm 3 года назад
Hello Sir, After 6 month, are you happy with this lathe? is it accurate for work steel parts? Please excuse my bad english and thank you
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Hi Leon, yes, it's a good lathe, working with steel is not a problem. I've shorted the main electronic control board and now waiting for the seller to offer one for sale (there's no listing for it) so spare parts might be a problem down the road.
@aunapalm
@aunapalm 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Thank you very much for your answers : - )
@tonyhddodge4282
@tonyhddodge4282 2 года назад
Can this machine be set up to do 32tpi?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 2 года назад
Sure, that's 0.794mm, use kachurovskiy.com/gears/ to calculate the required set of gears - or install an electronic lead screw to cut any thread - github.com/kachurovskiy/nanoels
@georgbonn6367
@georgbonn6367 2 года назад
Sehr angenehmes Video, dadurch, dass Sie ruhig sprechen und keine wilde Hintergrundmusik verwenden. Danke für Ihre Arbeit, auch für Electronic Lead Screw @ Github. Das und andere Videos von Ihnen werde ich mir demnächst zu Gemüte führen :-). Very enjoyable video, in that you speak calmly and don't use wild background music. Thank you for your work, also for Electronic Lead Screw @ Github. I will have a look at that and other videos from you soon :-).
@tonycstech
@tonycstech 3 года назад
У меня пoхожий станок, только с коробкой передачь на 3 скорости и переменой направления. К сожалению на этом всё. Куда нос не сунь то дырки высверлены не туда то зазоры как крысинные норы. Месяц только пытался понят как и что. Кстати, спасибо за модифицации на thingyverse.
@abzyberdy
@abzyberdy 3 года назад
Привет, а точно в германию без таможенных расходов доставляют? Я посмотрел твою оценку на али на этот станок, ты пишешь no customs.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Азиз, я ничего не доплачивал, привезли грузовиком из Польши. Шло очень долго :)
@werschkowdennis6533
@werschkowdennis6533 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Привет. Сам буквально на кнопке заказа сижу. Думаю серый взять через ИБей, или может тоже такой взять. Как тебе станок твои? Может что посоветуешь. Я тоже в Германии живут. Ты говоришь 850€. А там сейчас стоит где то 630€ станок и пересылка 790€. Это как?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
@@werschkowdennis6533 опять подорожало видимо. Уже такое было несколько месяцев назад, в комментариях обсуждали. Подожди месяц, должно вернуться в норму. Дополнительные деньги таможня с меня не спросила. Серый говорят существенно хуже.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 3 года назад
You should invest in an ultrasonic cleaner. It would make the job of cleaning the grit and rust 1000x faster and cleaner. They are a lot cheaper than they used to be. I picked one up for about $100 on eBay and it has helped me our a lot.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Bob, I saw they need special filling too? Not sure I understand how they work exactly. Operations like these are rare at my shop and space is at a premium so I decided to skip on them for now.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Nope! No special liquids needed, just degreaser mixed with water. It depends on what you're cleaning. They come in all sizes, and are great for cleaning almost anything.
@nefariousyawn
@nefariousyawn 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy I love my ultrasonic cleaner, and they can be used for all sorts of things. The Thought Emporium made a video about artificially aging cheap alcohol by adding wood chips and running it in an ultrasonic bath.
@novii68
@novii68 3 года назад
Привет. У меня новый 8x16 MX210V ,когда поварачиваешь ручку спид контроля, то станок начинает работать со 180 оборотов , если повернуть ручку на уменьшение то просто останавливаеться. ремен. стоит на малой передаче от 0 до 1250об. но на деле получаеться только от 180...?? случайно не знаешь в чём дело?? Спасибо.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Привет, я сам мало понимаю в этом деле как видишь но можно погадать. Попробуй гитару временно разомкнуть со шпинделем - может она стопорит на малых оборотах из-за трения шестерёнок.
@novii68
@novii68 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Спасибо, сегодня попробую.
@graforlov1738
@graforlov1738 3 года назад
Попробуй уменьшить максимальное напряжение на плате контроля, там есть потенциометр с пометкой Vmax
@novii68
@novii68 3 года назад
@@graforlov1738 Спасибо, попробую.
@kadyrganzo9961
@kadyrganzo9961 2 месяца назад
​@@novii68 и что в итоге помогло решить проблему?
@user-fu4ud3sf4m
@user-fu4ud3sf4m 3 года назад
Видимо у них разные критерии ОТК для СНГ и Запада. В том который приехал нам половина деталей вырублена топором. Включая контактирующие со станиной "плоскости" (именно в кавычках) каретки суппорта...
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Странно, в отзывах на Али из России и Украины пишут примерно то же самое. Может, вы у другого продавца брали или немного другую модель?
@reneh4602
@reneh4602 11 месяцев назад
Hi, schöne kleine Drehbank. Ich suche auch schon einige Zeit nach diesem speziellen Typ. Können Sie mir sagen wo ich diese Drehbank kaufen kann? Vielen Dank. Gruß
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 11 месяцев назад
Hi @reneh4602, heutzutage ist der Versand von Drehmaschinen aus China sehr teuer, Angebote auf www.vevor.de/s/drehbank sind sinnvoll.
@reneh4602
@reneh4602 11 месяцев назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Danke für die schnelle Rückmeldung. Das habe ich mir schon gedacht. Die Maschinen von Vevor habe ich auch schon ins Auge gefasst. Wieviel KW hat Ihre Maschine? 750 Watt?
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 11 месяцев назад
@@reneh4602 Die Wattangaben auf AliExpress werden normalerweise überbewertet. Ich weiß nicht genau, wie viel Watt mein Motor hat. 750W sollten ausreichen.
@averelldalton8997
@averelldalton8997 3 года назад
Hello, you say that you had the machine sent to Germany. Did you then have to pay additional import tax at the customs in Germany.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Averell, no, it just showed up at the door. This particular seller ships by ship from China to Poland and handles all the customs. From Poland it comes by truck.
@averelldalton8997
@averelldalton8997 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy That's not bad, but the seller now wants € 836.89 shipping to Germany. All together you would pay € 1.417,55.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
@@averelldalton8997 that's weird, it goes up and down every day so might be a temporary glitch. Feel free to ask the seller, they reply quickly.
@pieterveenders9793
@pieterveenders9793 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy I just checked it and it was substantially cheaper than the price you mentioned. Currently it's only €573,75. Oh sorry, I forgot to mention the shipping costs. That will be €1776,38 to have it shipped from China to the Netherlands.... So that's literally less than 1/4 for the actual lathe, and more than 3/4 for the shipping....
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
@@pieterveenders9793 Yeah, not sure what's going on with shipping prices for this lathe lately.
@user-sq7kc2wg1t
@user-sq7kc2wg1t 2 года назад
Дыс ис видео из вэри гуд. Не хватает только транслэйт ту раша. Ай лайк)
@Valery_1954
@Valery_1954 2 года назад
Включите субтитры и перевод английского на русский, я так смотрю )
@user-gq7ry3vq9l
@user-gq7ry3vq9l 3 года назад
Рисковый ты парень... С тряпкой к токарному станку лезть... Сижу думаю. Стоит ли дальше смотреть
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Вася, это бумажные салфетки, тряпок у меня в мастерской нет.
@user-gq7ry3vq9l
@user-gq7ry3vq9l 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy Ну по видео не видно что она бумажная. А тряпок нет зря. САТ овские полотенца очхороши что в рулоне что в коробке
@fermino6441
@fermino6441 3 года назад
Lipstick on a pig! It's too bad that they make it look good but the internals not so much. Good job on cleaning it. You might need to do more work on it to get it to work better, but that's what you get with a low cost machine. The live center is wobbling a lot. Seems like it's not worth keeping? Good idea to put WD40 everywhere there is rust, hopefully that should stop it from getting worse.
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Ferno, I think it's a good deal for the money in this weight range in my region. I do keep it well oiled, thank you!
@nealepitts
@nealepitts 3 года назад
Lots of people comment on these type of lathes that they are made inferior but it isnt my view. I think its great value and a good way to get started. I have the 180 version of this lathe and it i am enjoying it so far.
@user-dr6gz2pj1l
@user-dr6gz2pj1l 3 года назад
Есть ли возможность сделать видео на руском
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Даниил, попробуй пожалуйста субтитры с авто-переводом, если перевод совсем плохой то могу подправить!
@user-cn6rm6qk4j
@user-cn6rm6qk4j 3 года назад
Хули их слушать ихни балтавню,мне бы молча показали лучше и так поймешь
@user-hf8ug3mj2w
@user-hf8ug3mj2w 3 года назад
Гинеколог блин прям!!!!!!!!
@werschkowdennis6533
@werschkowdennis6533 3 года назад
Жаль что не по русскому языку.
@Valery_1954
@Valery_1954 2 года назад
Включайте субтитры и перевод на русский. Тут они есть.
@user-xl9gg4vn6u
@user-xl9gg4vn6u 3 года назад
этот сраный магаз работает через раз. мне нихера не пришел станок - продавец сказал что проблемы с таможней и предложил подождать до апреля 2021!!! - при заказе станка 11.11.2020. трэкался неделю, когда пересекал границу в районе п. Забайкальский (Чита) и .........
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
Сочувствую. Раз пересекал границу то проблемы не с магазином а с желдорэкспедицией? Про них разные отзывы.
@user-xl9gg4vn6u
@user-xl9gg4vn6u 3 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy не, отправили типа поездом до Москвы, а с Москвы до Самары должна была доставить CSE, по ее сайту и трэкалась YH0111763455
@user-pr2zz5cx1y
@user-pr2zz5cx1y 3 года назад
дизлайк за вражеский язык)
@46company
@46company 3 года назад
Интересно, но пусть англичане подписываются, пока дизлайк
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 3 года назад
На английском говорят 1500 миллионов, на русском 265. На любую интересующую вас тему вы найдете в среднем в 6 раз больше информации на английском!
@13Chron
@13Chron 2 года назад
@@MaximKachurovskiy "в 6 раз больше информации на английском!"(С) Т.е. инфы на инглише уже больше, но мы будем упорно поддерживать неравенство? Ну тоже логика...... :)
@MaximKachurovskiy
@MaximKachurovskiy 2 года назад
@@13Chron мой канал существует для того чтобы радовать, общаться, находить единомышленников, помогать как можно большему числу людей. Ценность человека не зависит от гражданства и языка - поэтому для наиболее полной реализации моих целей канал на английском. Я бы сделал вторую аудио-дорожку на русском но RU-vid пока не даёт мне доступ к этой функции.
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