Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USA clashes with yet another college student who can't seem to control his temper when someone challenges his belief system. Subscribe to RTM Real Time / @realrtmnews All Links linktr.ee/Resi...
@@nondescriptnyc 100%. And ironically, his first complaint would be "I have all this student debt, I spent all this time in college, I should be making more than this!"
@user-gh8cc8tx5hso it's not a disaster if it's still being talked about? That's an absolutely stupid opinion. Disasters have valuable lessons to be learned and remembered, which is why talking about it is beneficial. In this current scenario, he brought it up because what happened to Budweiser is a cautionary tale.
learn public speaking, debating, (literature-correct pronunciation, reading writing- i did this in elementary school). typingI, II, and word processing, and you should be fine.
I graduated from high school in '90. I recall a classmate asking my automotive teacher about college. His parents wanted him to attend college, but his neighbor offered him an apprenticeship to become a master plumber. He was interested in the apprenticeship, but his parents urged him to go to college. So, he asked our teacher for his opinion. My auto instructor said, "I will upset your parents, but I would take the apprenticeship program. You are guaranteed a job, great benefits, and zero debt." He was a great teacher!
enter the military for the exact same reason in every regard. Once initial entry training is completed, you are sent to a technical school to learn your trade craft. You are then transferred to a command where your skills are in demand. The longer you stay in place, the more your skills improve. You actually make far more in the military, given there won't be rent, cost of utilities, eatting costs, medical or dental, etc. The only "burden" is to tolerate the consistent check every 2 weeks free and clear of any respinsibilities.
Are you actually hiring? If so, would it be a work from home job, by chance? I'm a single father with physical constraints that don't allow me to do any kind of manual labor any more. Don't worry. I'm not an arrogant college student. 😁👍
I graduated over 32 years ago. I’m still employed in what I studied in college. Now I question whether or not young people should still go to college with nitwits like this debating Charlie Kirk.
@@technofilejr3401 I graduated 20 years ago and am still in my field, and I can probably count on one hand the number of courses I had to take that were pointless (philosophy, political science, literature) for my field. I guess I also took enough AP credit in high school to walk into college with 30 credits so that saved money and did away with much of the pointless stuff. I did suffer through a few courses that for me were a waste of time but others needed because the public schools clearly failed them (I mean, why can't a college freshman name all 50 states?)
@@technofilejr3401 I'm not sure what field you are in, so i might be making an assumption in your case. but would you agree that it was different 32 years ago where the piece of paper you got from college was the only thing that secured those positions? you went to college when the degree meant something, now people will hire based on experience rather than a degree that didnt happen before. if you didnt have a degree you didnt bother applying
99% of the people that I know didn’t go to college for an education, they went for the party’s. Most had useless degrees that pay minimum wage, don’t require an education and therefore were overqualified for the job Btw, a trades skill is far more valuable in the real world
Looks like you skipped college....AND high school... mb even grade school! Else, you''d know "partys" (or parties) DOES NOT USE AN APOSTOPHE!!!!! DIMWIT...
Fair point, just don't make the mistake of now thinking "College people party, waste money, waste their time" as an overly simplistic judgment of people you don't even know at all. And as if people in "trades" are all competent and decent people. FTR: people in both camps need to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis as well as those ( like myself ) who did attend university given due respect from those who didn't go my route. There's disrespect on both sides towards the other, which is pretty juvenile. One of my friends didn't finish college, wasn't a "books guy", and is far more geared towards trades / working with his hands. That's his thing. I'm almost 180 degrees the opposite, being far, far more into books and debates, etc. I've never looked down on him for his skillset, rather, been impressed. He? Once in a while he lets out a judgmental snipe against people like me. He's got a problem, I don't. Either way, I was around MANY people in university on up who were serious about their studies and futures. And, yes, Charlie's right in this video as well, that many individuals can forego college, get right into a job or trade, and move on. In fact, my degree didn't help much with "getting a job" in general, but if I could go back I'd do it all over again. It was a great time ( of discipline / studies / socialization / general education and personal growth that take place in the community that college/university provides ) that should not be boiled down to degree vs non-college "real world".
We have a glut of IT the way we used to have a glut of communications majors…not everyone is needed to program computers. A lot of these folks will make shit doing stuff they could have done without racking up tens of thousands in debt.
Charlie explained it best for taking a pill to lose weight it works only 1 out of 10 times is a scam. The doctor, lawyer, or accountant is that 1 out of 10. But according to this guy its magically not a scam for the other 9.
@@neildennis7294 wrong answer. An EDUCATION teaches how a computer works. EXPERIENCE tells you which tweak to adjust when it acts odd. WISDOM will show the best correction method. Example: College shows me how to install a word processing document. Experience tells me how to correct it when it acts funny. WISDOM will have the entire application saved locally. Installing at from a locally saved copy may take 5 mins to install, as opposed to finding and down loading an internet copy with maybe a 20 min down load based on current internet traffic.
Oh but he's working on his degree in lesbian football . . . Oh don't you just know he's going to have a successful life with a degree like that . . . Hahaha 😂😂😂
These people can never answer an honest question when it is put to them. They just dance around the issue (i.e., "define value"), word-vomit for effect, change the subject, then eventually melt down into their true nature, true mindlessness and cursing stupidity. Amazing.
This is what I got out of it too. I will give him credit, he was decently well-spoken and articulate in begininng and fell off from there. But trying to win an argument on a technicality doesn't serve much of a real world purpose, and that's all he was trying to do-to get Charlie to commit to some trivial aspect of the conversation and then come back a few minutes later to say he contradicted himself.
They need their little calculators. They don't know how to multiply or divide. All they teach is school is how to hate America and how to do sexually depraved acts.
Bernie Sanders in a debate with Hillary in 2016 said that with the exception of S.T.E.M college degrees are equal to HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS from prior to the early the 70s.
My husband's niece went to college. Spent all kinds of money getting a teacher degree . Couldn't get a permanent position with a decent pay. Could have told her that (her uncle, my husband was a teacher) She now works in an office for the Ford car company in Detroit , makes more money there than teaching in a dangerous environment. My husband retired from trucking back in 2008 , he owned his own semi-truck . As you can see, money wasted on college. 4 years wasted on college. Trade school YES ,college NO . Myself,when the school counselor approached me(back in 1970s),my reply was, "No, I don't plan on going to college. "she asked why and I told her my results from my research. Fact, most kids going to college can't make up their minds on major,change it a lot,waste of time and money! Fact, most kids drop out! Fact ,most don't use the degree they have! Fact, they will be in debt for a long time! Fact, sometimes we end up with fools like you giving advice !" She didn't like my reply😊. I've had a very interesting life . I've managed all of the following over the last 52 years out of my 67 years of living and a lot more and all of it without a college degree and I didn't lose my common sense either !! My experience life : A wife A mother A grandmother Store clerk at Dollar store Speedway Bakery Parts factory,line work Office ,secretary Assistance-manager Truck driver, 48 states,3 province's of Canada, retired Owned and managed a car repair shop with ex-husband , I worked in the office Last job was in Home Health Care Life experience Can rough camp, No camper, no facilities Cook on open fire make an oven to bake in Can make a lean to Taught my kids basic survival skills Sunday school teacher Can also Crochet Knitting loom Sew by hand Cook from scratch My Dad taught me How to work on the older cars ,i can replace flywheels,carburetors, spark plugs,fan belts help rebuild car engines He also taught me how to paint houses inside and outside, i know how to put up walls,trim ,i can put in a good old fashion wood floor , and do plumbing Now no where is there a college to learn all of this and more That's just some of ehst I've learned myself .
@@soonersciencenerd383Tell me she got a history or an English degree or elementary education degree. If she had a math or science degree, or special Ed, she'd be employed always.
15th Century French Poetry with an Emphasis on the Bourgeois History of the Bourbon Family in Relation to Intersectional Poetry of the Church of the Poisoned Mind…
The point that everyone is missing is the fact that this kid's ARROGANCE and DISRESPECT pretty much NEUTERS him out of a future after college. He doesn't understand humility, he thinks that he knows everything, and any CEO in any company will see this brat and wouldn't hire him for anything other than parking cars
An entire generation of parakeets. Unless you're a physician, odds are you will never work in the same field you majored in. Also, even an MD is useless without good work ethic.
I am 72 years old. From the time I was old enough to recall my parents hammered home the point that I must get a college degree. I did accomplish their goal for me; however, after graduation, the only teaching positions that were being offered were several states away from my home, family, and life. I chose to remain where my life was and found that my education kept me from getting a job for six months. I was over educated. When I did land a job, within two years, I was earning substantially more than many of my former classmates in our field of study. Colleges today are best at stripping young people of their faith in our Creator and turning them against the greatest nation that has ever existed on this planet. I encourage kids to seek trade school education. Most courses in a four year college do not put money in your pocket, they only take it out.
1. dont need to believe in god to be a good person or make decent money 2. the greatest nation on the planet is subjective. i would argue that it was once a great nation but has failed miserably in the last 20 years to stay there
I started taking college prep courses in jr high through high school and even took Latin! Not once did anyone come to me and discuss college options or any type of guidance counselor! I did Not go to college and at 19 got hired in an aircraft factory! Completely on the job training working with metal assemblies and weldments!
I was taking an advanced Sociology class and had to take a test about how "White Priviledged" I am. myself and several in the class told the professor that the text book was garbage and that tests like this create more division , then I explaned how "White Privilege" I wasn't because my parents picked fruit and cotton in the fields growing up and everything I have I earned, including my time in the Army. my privilige was being able to get up and work for everything I have. nothing was given to me because of my skin color. the professor tried to argue with me which made it worse because other people started sharing their stories.
Public schools including college only teach you how to be someone else's human resource, not entrepreneurial skills themselves, and therein lies a massive disconnect. This includes engineers, doctors, and lawyers, the only difference being that the job skills are more involved and technical. Entrepreneurial skills are only developed though doing things that will incline one to acquire them, not in warehouse schooling closed off from the world of work and what adults do. The problem today is much of work is artificially tied to schooling. The great minds of old were never educated this way. Statists automatically think that unless government provides it, people won't be educated, but nothing could be further from the truth.
If you borrow $10’s of thousands of dollars to get a degree that has no hope of getting a job that pays worth a crap and all you can say is “I don’t agree;” you are a fool. The faster and louder you talk, the more you cuss, and the more out of control you are - then you are the problem.
I didn't get a college degree, I had some college. I got a job at Verizon, and almost all of my peers had a college degree, proving what Charlie is saying.
I graduated High School in 1967 and YES!! Both my parents and counselors pushed for me to go to college. So I went for two years, then dropped out because I realized all it was was a paper chase. I got a job with an apprenticeship. The company offered schooling in the field I was working in. I started at $4 an hour and when I retired I was making $72.50 per hour making over 100k+ per year. Kids are led to believe that to get a college degree they will start out making 100k+ per year. That's not true. Nowadays employers are looking for people with trade skills. You're better off going to a trade school where your job prospects of securing a job are better.
I graduated High School and went directly into the USAF as a Cop. After my 4 years I applied to be a city cop (no college or higher degrees were required yet) In 1985 I became a Cop and made more per year than my step dad and mother. I bought my first house at 29. I stayed USAF Active Reserve and retired at age 40. I retired from the city at 50. I know plenty of people that make way more than i did. Only one got a degree and became a lawyer. My ex GF became a Judge. My richest friends, AC repair, Plumber, Landscaping.. hard working blue collar.
Someone who approaches a conversation in this way has an inflated sense of self: "I'm here to debate you on anything you want... fire your big gun." Seriously, do you really think you're that much smarter than others?
When I was in school almost 20 years ago, our high schools would give students the option to attend a county Vocational-Tech school half the school day to learn a trade or technical skill like electrical, masonry, computer science, nursing assistant , culinary arts, etc. It was a 3 year program. Students from 6 different schools bussed students there 5 days a week. I was a student there, it was very rewarding.
Learning a trade is far more useful in today's world. I know someone who spent upwards of 80k on college and they're working at Walmart. I have another friend who went to a trade school and learn to be an electrician, he's making six figures a year.
The kid is just trying to grasp onto one single sliver of what is being said. Casinos are a scam. The house always wins. That does not mean that nobody ever wins,it means that the vast majority of people who enter the casino are there to lose their money or go into debt
My kids are in high school now. I'm aiming them toward trade school. They know college is a scam unless you're going into the medical field or something similar.
The key is to understand your strengths and be guided and supported by people who have your best interests at heart. You can be smart as hell, but if you aren't interested in a particular field, why chase a diploma in that direction? There's lots of very smart people out there in the trades that are making very good money without the financial burden. There's also lots of people who aren't so smart that are still making a good life in a trade. And, hopefully they weren't sucked into borrowing a ton of money for college before they woke up.
Charlie saying that college is a scam because 40% of people don’t graduate doesn’t take personal accountability into it. Most people don’t graduate because they make poor life decisions. I wouldn’t blame the college for that, but the individual. The rest is pretty spot on.
My granddaughter is thousands in debt because she did an art degree. It actually taught her nothing but what it did do was destroy the confidence she had in her own skills because she’s not the type of artist the university likes. (And they definitely preferred a certain style of art and those that fell outside that were consistently put down and their work rubbished….on one occasion her work was actually ripped up by a tutor…which I still find unbelievable.) So her work was considered useless. She now regrets the time and money she’s wasted. It so sad to witness.
When is the last time ANY UNIVERSITY ANYWHERE gave a refund on tuition to a student that wasn't able to find work, or was unhappy with the instruction?
I've agreed with Kirk in the past about 95% of the time but saying Harvard grads are idiots? What's the matter with him? Know your audience. This guy just proved to me that he has a chip on his shoulder about college grads. It's sad. His response is totally from emotion. I won't watch his videos anymore. What a monumentally stupendous, stupid thing to say.
One thing Charlie doesn’t get. Academia is supposed to breed community and culture. It is supposed to help create better civilizations. Charlie is focusing on jobs. Whether you use your degree to get a job in your studied field or not is beside the point. University’s are suppose to create well balanced society. They may be failing at scale in recent years, but it doesn’t mean everyone needs to skip college and become a corporate mercenary or gig culture entrepreneur. School teaches you to play well with others and others ideas. I really don’t think Charlie can genuinely do that. He comes off more as a very intelligent provocateur, stirring up shit to sell his book about how everything is fucked
I’m a Baby Boomer and my generation was told that a college degree was THE key to success. By the time I got to college after 4 years in the Navy we were told a BS or a BA wasn’t enough. Grad school was a must. My undergrad Poli Sci degree wasn’t enough, apparently. My BA plus my MA in Chinese got me a job, but 5 years after starting my job I was not using the degrees and my career direction had totally changed and I spent the next 45 years working for the same employer. I didn’t use my degrees. I had no problem with that and retired very comfortably thank you.
@@fgrion I never said it was the college’s fault. My points were that the bar was raised such that an undergrad degree wouldn’t be enough and that while my MA major qualified me for an entry-level position, I wound up moving into a different field just a few years after starting.
My daughter just graduated from high school. She had a 3.87GPA with heavy science based classes. She was 167 out of 698 students. Most of her friends are going to Universities. When her counselor and teachers asked what school she was going she mentioned a Junior College that in California cost nothing. At the Junior College she will be completing her prerequisites to become an RN. At our hospital that she will be working at as a CNA and the hospital will pay for her Nursing Degree after she completes her prerequisites. Starting pay as a newly minted RN at our hospital is $46 an hour. Many after becoming RN's will work on their BSN while working and guess what, the hospital reimburses the employee. At least our hospital does. Within five years an RN can be making $78 an hour or more. All that and my daughter is looked down at because of her choice for an education that actually pays way more than the cost of the education.
