+Karmah Thrn she needs to get her dog legitimately registered as a support dog so to stop messing it all up for those that went through the proper channels.
No, she lied about having panic attacks. She said that if you answer the questions in a certain way, you'll get a diagnosis. The interviewer said that she didn't look like someone who had panic attacks, and the woman said verbatim, "yeah, I lied."
Kas Qat don't they ask for medical records showing they have some kind of disability. Then again, those claiming to have a disability who really don't can. They can always forge a letter claiming they have a disability etc just to take a dog on board.
"You seem like a calm level headed person"....people with anxiety and panic disorder often can be calm and level headed. They're not flailing, fainting, jittery, and freaking out all the time. You'd be surprised by how intelligent, kind, and "level headed" many people with anxiety and panic disorder are. It's disheartening to hear a reported say that.
Daring Goldman ? I don't understand why that would be a response to a general comment. Anyone can have a heart attack but not everyone will. Just like her comment stating anyone can have an anxiety or panic attack, but not everyone will.
Actually most doctor's wouldn't just randomly say you can have an esa. Most doctor's won't even write letters anymore. And since esas aren't trained most doctor's don't feel comfortable putting their name on a piece of paper which makes esas their liabilities
I live with a physical disability and all I can say about these people who take from the disabled and try to fake these things is BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
Chris Weber I’m sick and I think the same thing. I’d do anything to be healthy and these assholes have it and just want attention. People like this have made it difficult for people like us to get treatment, testing, service animals, etc., so if they want it so badly I really do hope they get it.
Rebecca McNutt well let’s put it this way, they are not required to be trained. They are not service animals. I’ve seen plenty that are not trained. Let me ask, what sorta training do the emotional support animals have that you have encountered? Sitting, laying down, this is not special training that an obedient pet wouldn’t have.
Kanim 548 I understand this was 7 months ago, but they aren’t faking having a service dog. They’re faking having an emotional support animal, which is very different.
yea that's exactly what I was saying too, I live with with debilitating mental illness and she didn't even feel bad about basically belittling and minimizing the distress and agony that so many people like me face on a daily basis just to get her way... it's insulting and upsetting 😔
Who cares? Do you want to fly in a plane cargo hold? How about paying extra for your dog to get thrown around and lost by baggage handlers? Shocking how many people here defending airlines treating pets like checked baggage getting ripped off with bogus fees.
Kevin Clark Look At the bigger picture she essentially lied about being disabled. Being an animal lover myself I get wanting to protect your fur babies. However I’m not going to lie about being disabled. It’s that simple, do not take them if you are concerned about their well being. When traveling there are other options if you choose to leave them behind even if it’s just for a short vacation. I don’t want my dog or cat to get lost or stuck in luggage or even worse die from a heat stroke. Buddy I’ve seen it happen! So do not assume, because I won’t lie means I don’t care.
Kevin Clark Also, you stated you were shocked “how many people are defending airlines” 🤦🏾♀️ Who tf in this comment section said anything about supporting ill treatment of any animal. Just because we are honest and decided to use better judgement, does not mean we support animal abuse.
@WeeStrom CO Guy I'm not saying all pets should fly for free. If your dog weighs 100lbs and you want to fly across the country with it, that's on you. But if your dog/pet is around the size of a reasonable carry-on, yes. We both know airlines have been squeezing customers for decades, imo I shouldn't have to pay for a carry on unless it makes a mess, if you know what I mean.
Justin Hopkins Yes, like when the teacher in school punishes all the students because a few bad kids acting out. Like having to add security because of bad kids shooting up schools. A necessary evil. Like having security at an airport to keep people from blowing the planes up. When people abuse the system, the system has to stop the abuse. In whatever means they can think of. Thank you Justin for helping educate others.
"You seem like a level headed person, not someone who would get panic attacks" i know he didn't mean it that way or i hope anyways but panic attacks can happen to anyone. Even people who present as "level headed"
I'm sure I look like I'm a 'level headed person ' too,but I have panic attacks & emotional problems. Sometimes I can't even leave my home, or talk to anyone, even on the phone. People are not always like they seem.
WeeStrom CO Guy I have generalized anxiety disorder. It’s so bad it’s disabling so I’m getting my service dog trained for it currently. Mainly it causes pretty constant anxiety attacks which are hell to live through. Most people can’t tell when I’m having one though. A lot of us with metal problems have been told our entire lives that we need to suck it up and nothing is wrong with us. We learn to hide it outwardly. Also don’t call people with mental disorders “unhinged” it’s extremely rude.
@@gentlemismagius6141 unlike you I real have diagnoses, I'm an actual insane person, and he can say whatever he wants, especially when people act unhinged. also, I worked in the service dog industry, and in the context of the industry, I never once saw a real service dog, because people who actually need them don't buy pet dogs and train them to exploit legal loopholes. twitter users who think they are special snowflakes do that. like that was our customer base right there. middle age moms who love starbucks and SJWs who live on Twitter.
This is fucking insane......... and although it lets everyone abuse the system this is also the reason why doctors deny service dogs for the blind or for people who have autism or down syndrome. 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 By now airlines should realize these are people who are fucking abusing the system........... so this is why people with autism are denied service animals and people who are blind are denied this as well.............service animals are special and they're not meant to be treated like a toy car a little boy found on the street and cannot live without. 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 There are specific tasks a service dog may need to help someone with. For example 1) Deep pressure therapy for someone with autism or who has severe anxiety attacks. Like to assist someone with ADHD bipolar or ADD. 2) A big dog might need to help someone with physical disabilities get up off the floor. 3) A service dog might need to guide the blind or help deaf or hearing impaired people find sounds. 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 It cost over three thousand dollars to train those animals and all you can say is good job for abusing the system.............. you are a disgusting piece of trash.
box 8 news in the Saturday I noticed thats most Americans have mental illness is is because the way kids raised there because there are no connect families or what the reason they care so much about every thing and gets angry over stupid things
"You dont look like someone who..." I hate when people say that. I know she was lying, but a lot of people like myself have high functioning mental illness.
@@ItsViolaRose Exactly. You can't see my anxiety unless it makes itself present during a panic attack. You can't see/tell I have depression unless I talk about it.
Untrained pets on airplanes truly does put those of us who NEED our service dogs or ESAs in danger. All it takes is one obnoxious yapping dog to distract my legitimate working dog. If he is distracted and misses an alert, then that is dangerous for me. Anyone who thinks lying about a disability so fluffy can fly for free is selfish. Certificates, IDs, and vests are worthless. They don't make a dog a service dog. YEARS of intense training and a legitimate disability make a service dog.
+Mason The Service Dog airlines can refuse to let a dog on a plane if it is unruly or causes a threat to others. The unfortunate part is many airlines don't train their employees on this.
It sickens me to see this. I have a medical alert service dog. it's people that fake their dogs as service dogs that need to go to jail. I was almost attacked by a boxer cause it was trying to get to my service dog.
The owner would have had to pay for the injury or death of your dog. That would mean paying for a temporary replacement animal. I have been suffering from depression, phobia of flying, and anxiety for two years and recently got a doctor's note for my ESA. Unfortunately, we fell for one of these scams, thinking they were legit. There has to be a way to tell the difference between a fake and a genuine Emotional Support Animal. I have a doctor's note of course, but ESA's might not be trained to do specific tasks, but they are needed just the same. They should be trained in the CGC program so they are well mannered in public and don't cause problems. My puppy is being trained to earn a CGC certificate. That way no one has to worry about him hurting anyone, especially a Service animal. I made a suggestion to the Justice Department. Instead of an individual registering their ESA with these fake sites. A legitimate doctor would enter the information with the ADA, it would clear up any confusion. Doctors would be allowed to put in the information, and businesses would be allowed to access the information. It would eliminate the fakers, and reinstate those people who really need the comfort of an ESA for trips, and stays.
I read a comment from someone saying they had a task trained service RAT! The people claiming to have service cats are bad enough, but a rat is far too small to perform tasks. I love rats I used to have them as pets and they defo had emotional support value but no fucking way they can be service animals, even if the law didn't specify species a rat cannot do service animal tasks
Wtf seriously?! I have depression and anxiety. My fiance has PTSD, add/ADHD, depression, high manic bipolar and anxiety. We have two pets (cat and dog) that is both our emotional support animals. People like her need to 1 grow the hell up and 2 stop ruining shit for those like us who actually need our emotional support animals!! If you don't want your pet in a cargo then leave them with either a friend or family member who you trust or a doggie daycare!! Not that hard to figure out lol! Stop ruining things for others by lying just so you can "get around the system"!
+Nina Styles If you have a psychiatrist or therapist then they can write you a legit letter stating that you need your dog as an ESA. I and my fiance both had our therapists and psychiatrists write ours. And it helps if your dog has basic training and can be calm around other animals and people. Our dog is a year and a half border collie cross and I trained her the day she was given to us by our friends when she was 8 weeks old. Our dog right now (I still work with her) knows how to sit, sit pretty, lay down, speak on command, fetch just about anything, you can tell her to back up and she backs up and you can tell her to stay and she will stay. border collie crosses and border collies are extremely high energetic and very intelligent and they love to work no matter what you train them to do. They do make great working dogs. And thank you! I hope you can get your dog to become your ESA!
I have an idea. Airlines should charge full fare up front for ESA animals if the passenger doesn't have proof of certification when booking the flight. The person can submit the medical authorization ( that is certified PRIOR to the flight), for a credit/refund from the airline. That would cut down on the liars who have no certification for their animals abusing the system.
This really pisses me off. I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety and have had panic attacks in the past. I don't have an emotional support animal though the idea actually sounds really helpful (the real thing not this sham). How dare the reporter say the fraud looks like she doesn't have any problems. There are a whole lot of people dealing with mental health issues that never look sick. I understand this woman, Genevieve, is an actual fraud but people really need to stop contributing to this idea that mentally ill or disabled people are obvious to spot just be looking at us. Many of us work and carry on just like everyone else.
Same. I look like a normal 21 year old. unless I tell someone or have a panic attack in front of them, they'd have no idea about my anxiety, depression, ect.
H K Preach! I have Autism and Am Suicidal but I am told practically every single day that I can't have autism because I don't look or sound a certain way! I don't have all the physical disabilities but technically by law I am disabled (in no way do I consider myself disabled as I am not restricted from doing what I want)!!!! People these days are ignorant because soon the people who actually need these dogs won't have them due to fraud!
Thank you for speaking for those of us who really need these animals!! I have physical disabilities and emotional disabilities!! I always carry a letter from my doctor and my dog goes wherever I go!!
Good comment. Knowing which circumstance will cause anxiety and avoiding them is the thing to do. A companion who is aware of the triggers, is very helpful. That way they can have a calming, supportive effect.
@@asafaust8869 avoiding something that makes you anxious is actually not a good thing to do when you have anxiety. You're just reinforcing the idea that the situation is dangerous and you will continue to get more and more anxious about it. You wanna do the opposite, you wanna do what makes you anxious. Your anxiety goes up and then peaks and when your brain realizes you're safe the anxiety will lessen. Its good to identify your triggers so you can challenge them and figure out why they effect you the way they do. Having a companion with you along the way can make a world of difference. I don't think I would have made it without my fur babies.
I really despise people who lie about mental or emotional issues. People who struggle with it daily (like me) don't think the shit is funny. People who struggle daily with it want to feel " normal". This lady is despicable.
Nεяdii Lîonεss I noticed thats most Americans have mental illness is is because the way kids raised there because there are no connect families or what the reason they care so much about every thing and gets angry over stupid things
Lol why? Its not personal doing anything to you, its just a loop hole. Grow up. WHEN YOU DIE THERE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND ALL OF YOUR LOVE ONES WILL NO LONGER EXIST. HOW DO I KNOW MY BLUE IS THE SAME AS YOUR BLUE.THE ZODIAC KILLER NEVER GOT CAUGHT. ;)
lol some people could be scared of dogs and get panic attacks bc of dogs too? and what about allergies? Im shitscared of dogs so if i had to sit beside someone with a dog I would panic. Not so much if it was a kid.
Mommy Of An Austitic Child the point is that people shouldn't have to lie to airlines about carrying their pet because countless animals have died in the baggage for animals
Mommy Of An Austitic Child There's been many deaths and illnesses caused by putting dogs in luggage along with being mistreated, hell there have been cases where before the flight a dog was perfectly healthy and when the flight was over the animal was near death. Animals being left in extreme weather with no shade or cool air or just being straight up tossed around like a normal bag of luggage, let me ask you this would you let someone do that to your child.
I have a service dog for PTSD. This kind of stuff makes me mad because I have had people refuse entry to me because of my dog because they did not think she was “real” or something. And then I have to prove usually with papers. I feel like people like this make it even harder for people with disabilities to just have a normal time in public. I feel bad for her and she must be lonely. But I wish there wouldn’t be a whole “real or fake” service dog debate going on. If your dog is not certified and trained to help you with a medical condition that warrants a service animal, then it’s not a service dog, I am sorry. Take your dog to the park, they like it and you can breathe the fresh air and be less anxious if that is what you are worried about. But it is already hard enough for me to simply leave my apartment and I would like to be able to not be questioned by strangers.
www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html "Q17. Does the ADA require that service animals be certified as service animals? A. No. Covered entities may not require documentation, such as proof that the animal has been certified, trained, or licensed as a service animal, as a condition for entry. There are individuals and organizations that sell service animal certification or registration documents online. These documents do not convey any rights under the ADA and the Department of Justice does not recognize them as proof that the dog is a service animal."
but I worked in the service dog industry and not once did I ever provide paperwork to someone in your position to my knowledge they were more like... people who wanted to bring their dog into starbucks i'm sorry but I don't think where YOU got your dog is the same industry as the one I worked in, if that makes sense we were basically just salespeople with a warehouse
I hope people see how deranged this is. I can't stand people who lie to get their way, it's disgusting and undermining...people have been going on planes with anxiety for decades, she's (and you and me) are not special
LI .B You know I believe in every state they need to pass a law saying paperwork is required. 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 This is honestly so unfair because there are people all the time that get denied this kind of service because flight attendants do not believe they are real service animals.
As someone who suffers from Aspergers, Depression, Anxiety, and Stress-Induced Ticks that coincide with those things, its saddening to see that someone who doesn't truly need the support of an ESA would abuse the laws that people like myself are grateful to have.
I have a service dog because I get light headed and fall sometimes, my scout( service dog) is very good at alerting me to sit down before the light headedness hits and i fall. When you fake disability to bring a dog that is not a certified services animal On to a flight and it behaves untrained you hurt people like me who really need one.. Case in point I don't know what flight but a so-called service dog tried to eat the face of a passenger next to the owner..these types of incidences are going to prevent my actual service dog from flying with me. I hope they crack down and start charging people for false representation and indagering others...
Jazzie M - then drive or take a train or something. But don't lie to get your dog onto the cabin of a plane. I'm hoping to get a service dog soon- I use crutches to walk and a wheelchair for any sort of distance. Untrained ESAs are a huge risk as they could not only attack a fellow passenger, but they also after service animals. There have been service animals that have been wounded, possibly severely, by these untrained and often unnecessary ESAs. That kind of interaction could leave a disabled person with huge vet bills and the difficulty of no longer having the support of their service animal. It can cause anxiety in the service animal and require them to be prematurely retired. And it reflects poorly on ESAs and drives up the chances of them being banned from things like airlines and housing.
Then you don't take your animal unless you're moving. Flying is SUPER stressful on animals so you only take them as a last resort so the few days it spends separated from you will be nothing compared to it not understanding why their ears hurt from the pressure differential or the constant rumblings from the engine or god forbid turbulence. It's not like a kid where you can tell it everything will be ok its a frigging animal that doesn't understand anything. It's frankly animal abuse taking an animal on a plane.
My service dog has almost been bit several times. She is my lifeline and the only reason I can live an almost normal life. Please don't abuse the system and put my very expensive medical equipment at risk.
Xerin Knightwalker she is both expensive medical equipment and a living being. She has play time and work time. Legally, she is defined as “durable medical equipment” but I see her as a loving companion. She can be both.
Sadly some people with life-threatening illnesses are having their lives compromised by this-- I ended up intubated and on a vent after a flight that included cats
I'm sorry something like that happen to you but that's the airline's fault for not announcing to the passengers that animals are on the plane. I have traveled quite a bit and occasionally pets have been on board and not always service animals and most the time we were informed before even getting on the plane.
Devangel intubation for cats? And how is that the cat owners fault? You should’ve know you were allergic to cats and acted instead of sitting next to the cat lady.
In some agricultural areas of the USA, hedgehogs(much like ferrets) are illegal to own as pets or support animals. Because if they ever got lost, they could destroy the agricultural climate and tank the local economy. In California alone, it takes 25 permits to own a hedgehog. But only one permit to own a firearm. Isn't that fascinating?
I have ADHD, schizophrenia and severe anxiety (all diagnosed by my psychiatrist) and I've always wanted a dog and my parents are finally allowing me to get one because it will be an ESA and I'm qualified for one and it'll be able to stay in my dorm when I go to college in a year, and I'm so happy they have this sort of service for people like me who need it and it's sad because some people take advantage of this and will limit people like me who need one and other people who need them even more
I don't understand why you'd need a dog for the first and last, I don't have ADD but I do have pretty bad anxiety and I've learned to deal with that on my own. I understand schizophrenia, but isn't that a mental disease? Hmmmmm
+AnotherAnimeFanatic (Not OP) I also have severe anxiety. It makes it so I can't go outside on my own or else I break down and have panic attacks (they get bad enough I have been admitted to the hospital for it multiple times, it feels similar to a heart attack). Anxiety, if it is to a point where it is disabling (like mine), is a very valid reason to have a service animal. My service dog has granted me independence, and I am able to leave the house without severely panicking most days.
Mine is trained to do alerts to oncoming attacks based on my body language, lead me to a safe place when I'm disassociating, help me discern if something I'm seeing/hearing is real (i suffer from hallucinations and paranoia during panic attacks frequently), interrupt self destructive behavior, and helps with emotional grounding to end an attack quicker.
Oh. I just had a panic attack today at school, and I sat down and took a really deep breath and I calmed down. I know everyone deals with it differently, but it definitely isn't something that commonly requires that much extra help.
Laurel M. Exactly, though they don't see 360 lol Just better than dogs. They can also be potty trained and some religions don't allow dogs in the home, so they use horses instead :)
Yeah, like I’m thinking they can’t be potty trained? Um, ick. And although they are miniature, they’re still pretty darn big. They are adorable though❤️🐴
Abigail Johnstone As a someone with a degree in animal behavior and am also able blind person with a guide dog, I would not think that miniature horses are the best choice fir this work. A horse is a herd animal with an instinctive flight response. Putting them in stressful situations is not a kind thing to do. Very very few horses (or goat’s etc.) would enjoy this work. A dog is more genetically conditioned for this. A dog’s desire to be with his handler/ owner has a protective effect, allowing him/her to withstand the stress of being in an unfamiliar place. The horse is much more attached to their home and stable. Unless the miniature horse has been trained and socialized over many years by an expert , it is unlikely that they enjoyi the activity. Most are stoic and will endure but it’s not fair to them. We have evidence through MRI studies, and through heart and respiration monitors etc. that dog’s do enjoy their guiding work IF properly trained. Untrained animals should not be used in this way. If you need an ESA animal, please put their needs first! Learn how to help them. Take your public access tests and be responsible! And if the animal is not relaxed, LEAVe them at home where they feel safe! The people I usually see with ESA animals are e completely oblivious to the needs of the animal and the other people around them! And yet are indignant when other people ask them not to let their dog (or horse etc) pee beside the food counter or craps all the way down the terminal! How friendly do you think the staff are to me when I come in after these people? Your ESA animal can be trained to eliminate on command. This is not difficult . But many ESA owners haven’t bothered to teach this behavior. There are designated areas for service animals to use and we appreciate the airlines etc for creating those spots for us. But irresponsible owners ruin it for everyone and all of us will pay for it.
Moogie B Service minis relieve themselves on command. House trained as a dog. Some minis are no bigger than a large breed dog. They have a much longer working life of over twenty years. Unlike a dog which is around 8. They are used for all types of disabilities. Most common is blindness and mobility. Minis have been flying for over 20 years.
I understand people needing service animals and emotional support animals but what happens to people who have anxiety to animals or who suffer from allergies? I totally support people having their service/support animals but only if they absolutely need them! And if other people don't have to suffer form having that animal on board. I would not be happy if I was seated next to a pet who was not a real service animal. I love animals but there's a place and time to have them around. If they are needed then yes, by all means have your well trained, well documented animal on board. It's not a pet, it's a working animal. People taking their regular peta though ticks me off!! And I'm someone who could probably benefit from having a support animal! I have a few anxiety issues where having a support animal would be great for me, but I would never force an untrained or unqualified animal on board if it wasn't necessary, because I know that not everyone tolerates animals. Anyway, I'm glad Genevieve was able to realise her mistake. The people who do aren't aware of the harm they cause. We need more education on this matter!
This shitty person. I have depression, anxiety, chronic fatigue syndrome, mild insomnia. I need my dog as an ESA, but if I didn't, I wouldn't lie what so ever. My dog is my ESA, but she isn't registered with the NHS (national health service) of Englamd, not making it valid for her to fly with me, a thirteen year old girl. I need her for protection. For mental stability. She calms me down if I have panic attacks (non triggered attacks, for me consisting of wheezing, blurry ness in vision, bad balance and sometimes blackouts. It varies from person to person with the condition.) and I'm waiting till she's completely trained to get her registered to the point where if I go to Iceland by plane with my school, I can take her. But how dare people give us people a bad rep because they got their panties in a twist cuz their dogs weren't right there. I need my dog with me almost every day to feel stable and keep my mind of negativity, so if you do this, please don't. You might be causing me to have to give up my ESA in the future. Thanks.
I can understand why she did this, but I think she could ha e found a better way. She did it because they mistreet dogs in airlines and mostly end up killing them, but I understand your viewpoint.
People say they fake having ESA's to avoid putting their pets through cargo, this still does not excuse some of the absolutely horrendous behavior I've seen in these fakes. At least have the decency to train your animal not to urinate and defecate in inappropriate places, not to disrupt your neighbor's flight experience by barking nonstop, and not to act aggressively towards REAL ESA's and service animals. Real service and assistance animals have been attacked by these fakes from lack of socialization and obedience training on the owner's part. Just train your stupid dog.
and unfortunately a real support animal who gets attacked by a fake one can end up out of service due to ptsd. Thousands of dollars of training out the window because some snowflake thinks they should be special.
No I would not stay in my seat.............I have a real service dog and these idiots are going to ruin it for me............I need my service dog and untrained pets put me at serious danger
Chloe Walden I don’t even think it’s allowed to bring pets into a plane in a carrier, and if it is it probably costs a lot of money. Pets would go under the plane, in a pet carrier, and they would be placed somewhere that has ventilation so that the pets don’t die. If you are saying that you would rather lie about having an illness just so that you can have special privileges, you are disgusting.
1. I agree that people who fake it make those of us who have an ESA for real a bad reputation, and that irritates me. 2. Cargo is NOT safe for animals, and lots of "mistakes" and casualties happen. My dog is a legit ESA, but I can understand why people would "fake" it for the safety of their pet. Airlines should treat animals with the same safety as humans, make their "area" as safe as ours is. Yes, that won't get rid of all the fakers, as some do to avoid the "fee" and some do it just for their own convenience, but it's a start. 3. It's ridiculous that people are charged a fee in the first place to have an animal under their seat, occupying the same space a person's handbag would otherwise occupy. Animals are not "extra accessories" they are living beings deserving of respect.
It doesn't matter if someone really has anxiety or is just faking it, an ESA is not trained and is therefore a pet, and pets are not allowed on planes.
ESAs are not pets.they serve a very important roll which is to help the person with a disability by being there for them which relieves some of the stress and symptoms. they are counted as medical equipment not pets and just like any medical equipment they stay with their owner on a plane.
Sorry the truth hurts, but pets by their very nature are indeed "emotional support animals", which is why humans have had pets for thousands of years. Every pet provides emotional support otherwise animals would not be kept as pets in the first place. Soon half of all passengers will be bringing their PETS on board. Service animals are for blind, deaf or physically disabled people only. If one has anxiety that severe, they shouldn't fly at all.
Thank you. Finally, someone with a reasonable answer. People want their pets with them at the expense of public safety. Not only is that people may be allergic, but no one knows if their pets are well-behaved enough to not only get along with strange people, but with other pets. One woman let her toy dog into an elevator with a woman in a wheel chair who had a service dog. Well, that toy dog completely attacked that service dog and bit the dog so hard to the point where the service dog's snout was had a deep gash and was bleeding heavily. While it was attacked, that poor service dog didn't even bark because it was TRAINED NOT TO. And I'm sorry. Well, trained or not, you don't need an emotional support animal with you unless you have a REAL mental illness THAT CAN CAUSE YOU PHYSICAL illness, too, like seizures, panic attacks. And even then, if it's that bad, then one shouldn't even be flying. Don't care if your dog is well behaved. Everyone is biased towards their own pets because they love them. But having everyone bringing their pets on transportation will compromise public safety.
Your selfish love for your own dog is mildly endearing. Maybe you didn't watch the whole video. I don't want to sit next to your rainbow-painted pony or your snarling, ravenous pit bull for six hours! It's bad enough to have to sit next to a disease-addled "human."
PLEASE don't ruin this for people who actually need emotional support animals. I don't need my medically prescribed emotional support animal for comfort related to flight anxiety, but I need her in my day-to-day life to ease symptoms of depression and anxiety. I would hate to see people who need their ESAs on flights have their comfort animals banned because of people abusing the system.
As someone who struggles everyday with panic attacks the way she just said ‘I faked my diagnosis’ makes me want to slap her in the face with my reality.
That's true, but that's not all it's doing. It's something of a double edged sword. While, yes, it is teaching people how they can break the law and abuse the system, it is also telling the people on the other side of the counter what they need to be looking for. Instead of just taking everything at face value to try to avoid causing someone embarassment, they should ask to see the proper documentation, if allowed by law. I don't know if it applies to ESA's, but all any business can do if someone comes in with a service animal is ask "is it a service animal?" and "what service does it provide?" and that's it. They can't ask why you have the animal or what your disability is. I would think this would apply to ESA's too, but I'm not certain.
It applies to ESAs in that the documentation needs to state certain things about the animal being necessary and the disability appears in the DSM IV but they can not ask for the disagnosis. I have an ESA who is in training as a full psychiatric service dog. We will be flying next week, my document is not from these online sites, it is from a licensed mental health professional I see every week.
I've had to deal with that. Had to sit at Denver International for 4 hours after a flight before my eyes could clear enough to see. All because some woman had to have her precious little pussycat with her.
@@reverie4949 It's really the dander of the long-haired animals that trigger the allergy. And it floats easily through the air. Switching places doesn't help.
@Gary Allen Those treatments don't generally work. I know, because I've tried them. As for pretending to have allergies, it's easy to tell when someone has allergies. Sneezing, hives, rashes, trouble breathing . . . all happens in as little as a minute, and can take hours to clear up. Just hope you never have to find out for yourself, because it could kill you in an extreme reaction.
I have PTSD and an actual service dog. This makes my blood boil! Respect us! We just want to live a normal enough life! Shame on all these fake handlers!
I've got depression and anxiety and I've always wanted my own dog, It would help me so much but my mum don't like them, we have 2 cats but I'm allergic to them😞
Exactly what I was thinking now everybody knows how the hell to do it if that enough you got people doing it now. Had a guy come up to me and asked me where you could buy a harness for his pet I told him off
It's to emphasis the problem; how easy it can be to fake a emotional support pet. Hence, that's why some people do it. If they just stated what's what people do, then it's wouldn't create much of an emotional, logical, and moral response. They don't support the actions of people lying, instead they are just demonstrating, so the public will be more aware of the fakers.
JulesValuableVlogger, you don't have any animal-based allergies, do you. Because if you did, you would KNOW what kind of hell it is to have to suffer through an attack with no possible relief. Service dogs, such as the ones provided to the visually-impaired, the hearing-impaired or mobility issues are usually very clean and well-trained. They can be tolerated for short periods by those with allergies because it takes a while for the dander to form and come off the skin. But little Miss Imsofragile with her ESA pussycat, or bad-tempered little dog needs to find a different way to travel.
Honestly.. I would just go get it officially certified. If I don't qualify... oh well! If you can afford a plane ticket, you can afford an extra fee to bring your pet in a carrier.
Jensen Payne they usually are kept in 70+ degree weather for an hour, and the was a story of a dog that suffered a heat stroke and had blood in its cage, but it didn't die.
It's not only paying for the extra fee. You have to get a veterinarian note for them to fly and the weather basically has to be perfect or they can't fly. So it would just be better and cheaper to lie.
If you truly have a well behaved dog, good for you. It's ridiculous that the charge to fly with my dog was more than the price of my ticket. $100 to stow my silent dog in the space which was already allocated to me in the first place.
I think as long as the dog is well behaved at the gate they should be allowed. Dogs in cargo often get killed from dehydration or cold or lost. It’s not safe for them. If for any reason owners should get a muzzle to bring on
I think they need to improve pet transportation. I understand not bringing all the pets on in cabin due to space limitations and also just trying to avoid pet fights is understandable.
I would like an airline that was animal friendly so that I could just buy a seat for my dog to ride with me. He would gladly sit in a seat like a human. I would not have a problem riding on a plane where half of the passengers were animals! (I have the problem with the lying and deception, and having other passengers forced to fly with animals that aren't properly trained). Who wants to join me on my pet and human airline? (There must be one that already exists, though)
I wondered that myself after I was re-sch'd because the 45-50min left after finally checking in wasn't enuf time to get thru security. Big bomb/security risk to let them out on the tarmac to poo. Maybe issue them baggies or catheterize the poor pooch? Why not reduce the fee for animals to ride?
I have an emotional support dog with an official diagnosis papers for 3 anxiety disorders and a panic disorder and a letter from my psychologist but I still worry that I would get in trouble for him. People who do this are giving us who need emotional support and service animals a bad name.
My question is this. It's recycled air. What about those of us who are allergic? Yet again, animals get placed ahead of people. If you need that much comfort, maybe you shouldn't be flying.
First of all troll, there's no need to get snarky. I don't have breathing problems. I was using 'us' in reference to the human race. Second, while I am a dog owner, I don't place their value above humans. And third, if you think a simple benadryl can handle every breathing issue out there, then we need to reevaluate who is the actual idiot. (I stand by my opinion with regards to 90% of support animals being a scam. The other 10% don't need to be flying. Why? Because flying is stressful for EVERYONE! Oh, but I forgot. In the age of narcissism, you're the most important person in the world and no one else matters.)
@Chocolate Covered Labrador // Don't know if you realize this, but a wide range of creatures have been labeled as support animals including pigs, miniature horses, squirrels and even a peacock. Considering that recycled air flows throughout the entire plane (not just around one person's seating area), you really can't know how a susceptible person might be affected by random animal dander. Can you?
Chocolate Covered Labrador you are right! If you are that allergic you need a letter because many things could affect you. So it’s your responsibility.
Heidi Willard how would hotels and apartments be prosecuted if there was none? esas can stay with owners even when the apartment complex’s rules are no pets. how would they be put it court and sued if you can’t prove it’s an esa?
@@haniaasim9048 I think it's funny. If you are laughing at the name and not the person, and you do it in a non-confrontational way, it doesn't normally bug people. It's like nicknames. Sometimes they are cute and funny, and other times they are mean.
Why tf not? I wouldnt want my pet riding in cargo either..and i have anxiety,panic disorder,OCD,etc and this doesn't offend me at all. I dont blame her,i applaud her.
I remember not too long ago there was a passenger next to me that had a green pair it as an emotional support animal and my dad got her phone number and we’re still in contact today
Most people who fly with their dogs lie about needing "emotional support". It's narcissism... nobody wants to be subjected to your dog, leave it at home like everyone else.
What about the rights of a business owner that simply doesn't like dogs so doesn't he have a right to control who frequents his business or should the government dictate everything?
Personally, I think ESAs’ should be allowed to fly. However, special services that make you pay a fee to get some vest and false certification should be outlawed. Like this, it can be abused and there are so many horror stories about badly behaved “ESAs’”. Not only should you get a personal letter from a psychiatrist, but also go through training where the dog can handle aggression. I suffer from severe depression and anxiety and do have an ESA. But personally, getting one and training one should have stricter regulations.
@@emreva1357 You can take any dog into public. :I Just not into certain buildings and stuff like that. Where I live, lots of stores are dog-friendly. Athleta literally has a dog water bowl in the front of the store.
@@emreva1357 Yup! And I agree with you that ESAs shouldn't be allowed in those stores. But I think they should be allowed in most outdoor public areas, and in stores that do chose to be pet friendly.
