@@dogwalk3 I actually really like helping people, but I'm always a bit scared that I will do something wrong on accident. I just think that would be helpful.
Empchi you probably feel that way because your authenticity wasn't well received when you were growing up, either by parents or peers. i agree that that's messed up because our parents should have done a better job raising all of us instead of passing on their hereditary trauma. that said, your fear of doing or saying the wrong thing is something that YOU have to work through & it's no one else's responsibility. the best thing to do to make that seem less scary is to find a community that can help you or a therapist or mentor so you're not alone in the journey. if you don't have access to that, you should read "drama of the gifted child," by alice miller. as long as rely on other people to change, our society won't move past these unfortunate feelings we have to deal with. also, the older you get & more people you know, you'll find a lot of them you're more comfortable around & don't have to deal with that as much. it's good that you like to help people. keep it up.
@@dogwalk3 idk what to say, that's probably way too many assumptions from like 2 sentences I wrote. all i meant to say is i would love to be able to understand people and their psyche better, so it's less likely i mess up when trying to give them support or advice. because i enjoy being the emotional support, but i also know sometimes i can't do it as well as i wish i could. could that be a result of some childhood trauma? not that i know of, maybe? either way, I already go to therapy, because I have depression and gad, but thank you.
"nobody likes feminine men" "It's impossible for men to be the submissive in a relationship" Another day, another assertion that my relationship doesn't exist
i honestly have a soft spot for men who can be vulnerable and submissive, especially in the bed room... personally i think more men shouldnt be afraid to show their submissive side ! it is really sexy xD
Yeah, and being sent dick picks is the same as having countless offers for meaningful relationships that are CERTAINLY NOT based in any superficial physical attraction and objectification.
"Women should be dedicating their lives to amending my sadness" "Why don't you dedicate your life to amending womens' sadness" "Because I don't want to"
He needs a counselor to help him. Women don’t have an obligation to help men. Men and women alike are diverse and unique. There are men and women who like helping people with their emotional baggage (ie. Counselors, which some men enjoy working as), and in an egalitarian, genderless society, we would see more men in counseling departments. He could benefit from a relationship with a woman who is assertive and confident and helps shy/self conscious men build up self esteem (after he gets counseling and stuff). Those people exist out there, because there are all kinds of people. Gender roles suppress diversity, and we ought to abolish them for everyone’s sake so the world will be a better place
He doesn't have one that's the problem. He's desperately grasping at any reason to constantly paint himself as a victim, just sounds like a sad existence to me, unable to mentally progress.
@@oracle8192 i dont disagree, i just dont think that applies to every single one of these people, some people are just not interested in changing, cause they have an unconscious fear of discovering the world is only unfair as they think because they put those barriers there themselves, its hard to admit you are your own saboteur, its scary.
I died at "women are less horny than men"... This guy can't get laid because he has a completely absurd view of the opposite sex. My advice to all incels is to try to get female friends (preferably some they are not attracted to if that is possible) and learn to interact with them like humans.
Revanchist 😊 At the heyday of Beatlemania? They absolutely weren’t the standard of masculinity. Long, shiny hair, singing in gentle and sometimes high pitched voices, being very well groomed, slender and metrosexual, presenting the image of sensitive, empathetic artists? Sure, later on their style (both regarding their music and physical presentation) morphed and evolved, but at the beginning of their career they were pretty far from the macho ideals.
As a man with gorgeous hair, Harald Fairhair's legacy lives on, who is often misidentified with women, particularity from behind, I'm doing fine bud thanks. Oh and I am an 'autisto', still k. And poor, still can talk to women.
Man don’t get emotional support, woman does, man thinks woman is privileged and he deserves their emotional support, man stay sad Woman gets sad, man expect her to be emotionally sound, woman stay sad
Yes a guy that was bullied by women shapes his opinion about all women based on a unique experience instead of statistics and facts, just like a woman who was mistreated by a bad boy begins to hate men irrationally, nothing different at all.
@Laura Martin-Falla I agree but wouldn't you feel sorry for that woman just like you maybe feel sorry for this man. My point is a lot of men have valid reason to hate women of course that's not ok but dismissing their experiences as irrelevant or not as important is not a good solution. Is like,let's see a genuine nice guy who can't get laid and he is upset about it he tried to be as nice and compassionate as he possible could but it didn't work,he is upset because he doesn't feel love or understood than you tell him that the problem is him for being sexist and he begins to feel crazy and doubt his on judgment because what you are telling him is not true for his cases, is like saying to a woman hey only small amount of men cat call or actually act creppy being that her experiences contradicts that and them the same happens to her she begins to doubt her on judgment and feel crazy because people tell her one thing but she experience another is kinda like that. This guy is not morally right but if you dehumanize him he will dehumanize you.
@@jaegs1935 Same. The only time I ever felt conflicted about it was when I compared myself to others and measured my worth as a human being by my romantic status, which was a bigtime smol brain move. For me the issue stems from society treating single people as inherently _lacking_ a partner as opposed to just _being_ , full stop. You're a complete person with or without a romantic partner for goodness sake. Incels need to stop reveling in being outcasts and break away from their communities, as individuals, in order to rethink their values if they ever hope to truly be content with themselves.
@@dickiewongtk A huge amount of the time though, r*** is about power more than it is about sexual attraction. It happens all too often where the victim doesn't need to be projecting any sexual appeal at all and yet still gets assaulted because the attacker is just using it as a way to assert power and dominance over them.
Oh no not the wishing to be Ace thats só fucked up Like does he thinks Its ALL fun and games?there is litterally treatments treating to "fix It"feeling excluded from the gay and straight culture because They dont follow the same level of romantic attraction(for aromantics)or sexual needs(assexuals) Its Just like guys and girs saying"omg i wish i was BI would have so many options"
And this is exactly why these people are virgins and Incel, they are narcissistic and sympathy seekers who want a women to look after them and ‘fix’ them when most of these have no ambition, don’t look after themselves, and believe they know everything even when they are proven wrong. Fuck that no wonder they will forever be lonely
@Flower 34 it’s really baffles me the logic of some of these people, and when he has nothing to say in response he just takes a deep breathe and goes on about something else, he needs a slap💯
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. It started off funny but then became kinda sad. I think there is a lot more than world view here at play. Its sad because I feel like this person has next to zero in social skill. Everything is some kind of game or social status indicator. I feel like this person needs therapy and a rewiring of their world view. If you are reading this, I urge you to seek help. I have for many many years off and on, there is no shame. These feelings will fester and turn into resentment, no one owes you happiness. YOU owe yourself happiness.
Here's the thing with incels. At the beginning it's always "ooooh i can't wait to see some sexist get owned", but in the end it's just.... Sad. A dude whose own delusions are preventing him from becoming a better and, well, happy person.
It's just sad and unacceptable too that they participate in making the world less safe for us women. I just can't forget that, however sad he himself might be.
I totally get and somewhat agree with this but at the same time this is just another manifestation of that forced emotional labor. So I have to steel myself to be a bit colder. Unfortunately this happened with a close friend of all people too. I really tried but I needed to cut them off when I was becoming their therapist... Prolly a bad one too.
I totally agree it's not on any woman or other partner this fellow may ever have to fix him. He sure has a lot of growth he needs in critical areas like... fucking basic empathy and critical thinking. And I hope he gets help from the people in his life in a healthy way instead of piling it on anyone. Therapy or counseling and a mountain of hobbies. This whole call was a hot mess I always had the worst luck with relationships when I was desperate to find a partner. When I chilled out and quit saying poor me and was fun and relaxing to be around relationships more less presented themselves
@@mrnonsense1031 Freddie Mercury was famously bi, not gay. He also wasn't really feminine, at least by the 80s - dude was muscular and had a big ol' mustache.
I dunno, I think if men were as likely to experience stigma, physical abuse, or unwanted pregnancy as women are, they may not be too keen on sex either...
@Anirban Chakrabarti maybe women find "excuses" to why we aren't keen on sex because some of us really aren't because of trauma and sexual abuse/rape/bad expierences/other shit I cant come up with rn. Idk man, just a thought 🤷♀️
@Anirban Chakrabarti oh yeah I didnt mean it in a way like women as a whole have to excuse their any if their actions. Nobody has to excuse consentual sexual actions. But I just mean it in a way, like.. okay. Alot of women have had bad expieriences and maybe athe reason a lot of women start openly say sex isn't that good and form excuses to why they dont like/want sex is because of those bad expieriences. Anyway, sending love 💞
They are keen on sex. Just more selective. That's two different things. And that's not a societal thing - that's true for all of our primate cousins. So removing societal blockades will only make the phenomenon stronger.
@@supermutantsam1160 I guess they might think going to a therapist is weak and as this guy points out they think female partners should be their therapists, even though in actuality going to a therapist is a very strong thing to do because it shows you're strong enough to admit you need help from a professional
@FYE ARRW He came off as a troll to me when he said "you're hurting leftist Allah." At that point, it seemed to me that the guy didn't actually come for a serious, genuine conversation, ya know?
Thinking about it, the fact he said that after experiencing sexual assualt probably says something bout how society views male sexual assault, as well as his own mental state. I hope he gets the help he needs, most incels just need therapy
>incel guy: "women are biologically programed to be more sociable, emphatic, therapeuting than men" >also incel guy: "i've been bullied by women pretty much my entire life"
So, incels think a relationship is a free therapy? That's honestly terrible and I hope people who think that don't ever get a partner, because that would turn toxic very soon.
Semilocon Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about it. “A wOmAn ToUcHeD *ME* wItHOUT my CoNsEnTah!!” Well 1. maybe you kinda deserved it, and 2. you’re probably lying about it anyway. There’s your equality, fuckface.
@@beanieguitarguy4070 They're just talking to the guy the way a lot of people talk to women who get raped because that is equality. It's a clever use of irony.
Quite the opposite. I hope they get a partner who tries to pull the same bullshit. That way they have to say outloud "I didnt date you to hear your problems". Then look at eachother stupidly
@@spliffrotation7238 My last girlfriend was attracted to me specifically because I'm feminine, and tried to increase my femininity. Plenty of people love feminine males.
Stran Gling-twittur-hores assuming that it’s true, the idea is that women are socialized to like and dislike certain behaviors. As Vaush brought up, behaviors seen as feminine in a modern context such as child-rearing were once seen as either masculine or neutral. Women MAY dislike feminine behaviors, but both the behaviors categorized as feminine and the dislike for them are socialized into people’s psyches.
Stran Gling-twittur-hores I don’t think I can link anything here, but I would implore you, if you’re really interested, to go to google scholar and search for socialization and gender roles. To read the studies and articles you are probably going to need sci hub, but they should be available for you to read. There is a ton of literature on this subject so I hope that you are able to see from a new perspective.
I'd say it's absolutely not a guarantee and can worsen your mental health/state, but it can also improve your mental health. I know mine improved after I met my wife, but that's purely anecdotal.
@@browncoat697 but it shouldn’t be pursued on the idea it will benefit your mental health specifically. This is like a couple in a failing marriage deciding to have a baby. 9/10 a terrible idea. And also relying on a partner to improve ones mental health puts a burden on the partners mental health - thus the study which shows how married women are generally less happy and lose more as their husband gains more from a relationship. But I don’t expect those incels types to think like this, they’ve driven themselves into a very toxic little thought bubble, and in a way their naivety makes me feel a pinch sorry.
It sounds like this guy is struggling with internalized femmephobia, it really feels like he either is/wants to be more femme and feels stifled.. it's sad
That's why men no do the emotion right. It woman job to wear dress and luk pritty, so man have emotion in his crotch at all time. I deserve good feeling. Me smart. Me know it just biology.
@@paulafreytes5085 autism in males is more severe since it's an X Chromosome related genetic variant. Woman on the spectrum are harder to diagnose since their second X Chromosome compensate.
"Women don't want to lead men" - I mean, does the guy just not know about Femme Dommes? Maybe he's salty because he's missed out on his kink for years?
trans men, non-binary people, and genderfluid people whose period is a reminder that they weren't born into the right body and suffer severe body issues: 👁👄👁 *note: I am cis, so if any trans, non-binary, or genderfluid folks want to add to this please do.
@@samscheller2331 I know this is off topic but I found out that Vaush supports the TPP which would outsource jobs dont you think that's not progressive?
I know this is off topic but I found out that @Sam Scheller is a little troll who likes to spam pointless butthurt crap all over a RU-vid video's comments section don't you that he's a total asshat?
It should be the other way around. In many Incel communities they use females or femoids to derogatorily call women. :( Like the n-word for afroamericans.
@@melaniey.5596 hi Melanie, as a Black person myself, please for the love of god don’t compare the n-word to females. One is derogatory, the other is rooted in slavery and murder.
I also found it odd that he brought up that men were the hunters in hunter-gatherer societies, but Artemis was literally the goddess of hunting in ancient Greece.
You'll be surprised by the number of anti feminist leftist boys. They're leftists because they've faced the oppression of capitalism and rich-poor is the only power structure they're familiar to and they don't see other people who face that AND other forms of oppression. Look at the amount of leftists who think trump and Biden are the same. Obv it would be same for THEM, guys who're possibly white middle class but not for other minorities and they're too selfish to at least walk a few steps for other people's sake.
@@shreyaadahall Are we talking about bromunists? By the way, 50 years ago there was no difference between left and right when it came to sex or gender issues, globally, it was essentially struggle between working class cis striaght men and wealthy cis straight men, all of them wanted their women oppressed and felt disgusted by sexual minorities and foreign cultures and races.
@@cristian.9857 But you can still be economically left, and socially right for example. It's not like all issues are packaged together. You can address them separately.
I dont agree with his points at all, but he sounds like he's in a lot of pain. He sounds like hes on the verge of tears the whole time and I really hope he finds some help.
Was about to say the same thing, some pauses he had legit sounded like he was sighing about about to break down. Seems like he conviced himself that having a girlfriend would solve all his mental issues when, in reality, it's more likely that he would drag whoever he would end up in a relationship with, down togheter with him. Hopefully he finds the help he needs, or takes steps to improving himself at any rate.
I mean, there is one thing I think plays into problems with incels: society tends to teach men that only romantic love is "manly". So when they can't, for whatever reason, find romantic love, they tend to, well, become incels...
Another really sad guy who just wants a mom-wife and to do literally nothing to get one. I guess he thinks if he says biological enough, it won't be his fault?
"women don't like feminine men" Me and large group of female friends cackling as we talk about anime, kpop, manga and femboys because they're all hot: Update 2 years later: I just like loser men who whimper thanks guys
You have to admit there is a lot of masculine characters in anime and manga though lol. But true he just needs to realise women are individuals with different wants. Not all of them represent the average.
I literally hate feeling submissive and I’m a woman. Like, have a guy depend on me is literally my dream. Being submissive makes me feel really insecure and sad
@memelord you’re off your rocker if you think every woman wants to be submissive. Base your opinions on reality rather than personal desires and biases
@@shadowbunny7892 I sometimes wonder if I would have been better off as a Marxist-Lenninist in Colombia instead of transforming into an Anarcho-Syndicalist in the United States. Jaja
I’m not trying to be mean toward the incel but I’m just going to say it. His speech pattern and verbal delay clearly shows some sort of impairment. It seems like he has a hint of autism. I’m saying this as an autistic person myself. The Incel and Red Pill communities have a lot of autistic people in them because autistic people are easier to manipulate and like rules/structures. I too was manipulated with Red Pill teachings because again, I was an easy target.
I love how Vaush started talking about how men in Greece were expected to the the calm and reserved ones in Greek society and the incel just say “Zeus was the top god” wtf?
Vaush should have brought up Athena and maybe Artemis, if nothing else. They both had feminine traits but could also be extremely masculine and dominant. I mean shit Athena beat her way out of Zeus' head to be born. Frankly I'm disappointed he didn't counter with that lmao.
@@katherinec6656 i don't know who vaush is but seemed like he was fed up with this incel's bull and decided to play into the incel's assumptions that he doesn't know anything. the incel is so clueless he thinks he won, maybe even to this day. lol
@@adultdeleted For real. Vaush was definitely done at that point. The incel was refusing to understand. But yeah, that Zeus claim was easily counter-able.
I'm autistic and I get laid, maybe just maybe the fact he can't get any woman is totally unrelated to autism. Maybe he just has a horrible personality? But I guess it's harder to assume our own faults and fix them, it's just easier to blame others.
@@rbguerreiro2466 Chances are he is insecure, anxious and depressed but instead of getting professional help he has adopted toxic beliefs to put the blame of this onto women and believes that it is up to a women to be his girlfriend and magically fix everything for him. I'm also autistic and have had sex/partners in the past. Taking responsibility for my own mental health and forming a support network has definitely played a part in getting out of toxic rabbit holes too.
It's a well known fact that in ancient Greece they had totally different views on sex and gener, so much so that men sleeping with other men was basically the norm and didnt stop them from also having wives and families. B U T W H A T A B O U T Z E U S?!
Sexual interaction between men, once they followed the rules, was seen as a high and noble ritual of intellectual bonding - while sex between women was seen as absurd and an example of women's general insatiability. Our societies are really not the same, so forget the legacy of gender in tHe WeSt supporting an incel worldview.
When an incel labels a woman as a "promiscuous slut", more often than not he's really referring to a woman who he finds attractive that dates any man who isn't him.
Jason Matthews As someone who these jackasses have tried to charm.....and subsequently called a slut or roastie or whatever, I can attest to this. They will claim to have had sex or gone out with you after a couple e-mail exchanges. Edit: and I’m not talking about cybersex or anything spicy here, I’m talkin, “Hey how are you, how’s your day?” Some of them live their lives almost entirely online. It’s crazy - like some role-play video game. That’s why when they start talking about some past relationship or date I always ask: was this online or irl? I usually don’t get a response. Jesus.🙄
as someone who was at one point assaulted over a period of almost 6 months repeatedly and also as someone who has been alone before and is alone currently because its quarantine being 100% alone is a million times better than being assaulted smfh
the thing is its like the “asians are good at math why are you angry thats a positive” its an expectation not a magic thing that makes you bettar at something a stereotype doesn’t make you that thing
I'm 13 minutes in and he just said "being the submissive in a relationship is impossible" and I need to take a break. I haven't heard something so ridiculous since Kulinski vs. Razorfist
“Women biologically don’t like feminine men” Have these guys ever seen how many women love Michael Jackson and Prince? Even a lot of Pimps were very feminine by many people’s standards.
Near as I can tell this guy's point is "if you see all this injustice in the world, why aren't you wailing into the void about it?" that is when he comes close to having a point and trying to pin something bad to Vaush.
I keep seeing people mention this zeus thing and the anticipation is keeping me going 'til the end of this one. Its a bit of a struggle listening to the Olympic levels of stupidity on show today,
bernie bro the existence of intersex people makes biological sex bimodal by definition regardless of the probability. there are more than 2 two sexes, you are factually wrong by definition. search it up if you don’t believe me or something
"Yes women get raped more, but that's only cos they're desired more - it's worth the trade!" I'm gonna be sick. not only is this degrading and horrifyingly immoral, it also shows the desperately tragic state of mind of this lonely man: he literally thinks being raped is preferable to not being desired by the opposite sex.
@@MrCmon113 ah yes lifelong trauma is so much better than having to jerk off and feeling lonely. Also as someone who was an incel for most of her life: you're wrong and an incredibly ignorant dingus
i mean i disagree with him mostly but i'd take that trade off too. I want to be desired and wanted on that level. I'm tired of people playing dumb with this. And i've been sexually assaulted myself. I would take that risk with the trade off of having stuff paid for by men, being able to be truly reliant on a strong man, etc. ANY day. (i am gay).
My fiance has stayed home when I was in a position to make more, and yep he cooked and cleaned. didnt really change very much of our relationship honestly, and I've also stayed home so I can relate to both sides. Whoever makes more financial sense should stay home. I have several female breadwinner friends so I'm not alone, one is not better than the other its a team effort either way.
Goddamn, the final quarter really just made me wanna cry. This guy is hurting so bad and it made him receptive to these really bad takes. I hope he can break free of it eventually.
@Michael Sch Managing others emotions, exhaustively investing your time and energy into someone in a one sided way. More or less. Down to talk about it more, but that's a definition
@Michael Sch My attempt to explain: Emotional labor = active empathy, caring, attention, mirroring. Customer service jobs are a perfect example of being paid for emotional labor. (For one, you must be able to get emotional, show sadness and concern, in an interaction with a sad customer.) A specific example of the difference is serving in a restaurant. I do the physical labor of serving food, but I also do the emotional labor, which is caring about my guest, caring that they like the meal, caring that they tip me. To break it down, let's do "getting my guest another drink when I see their glass is empty." The *physical labor* is physically bringing you the drink and putting on the table. The *emotional labor* is me caring about you having a refill, I rush to do it because I care that you aren't stuck eating with no liquid, and I care that (if there's free refills) you get to take advantage of that. I do the *mental labor* of keeping track of what kind of drink you had so I remember what to get from the kitchen. People can claim how much someone cares doesn't affect their work but it ends up that the person who cares more is the one that gets it done, it's mental labor too of course, focusing on how the other people are caring and being attentive. Emotional labor is labor. This is why customer service jobs can be exhausting (in a different way) even if there's less physical labor than serving. Because you can't relax for one second, your entire shift you must be prepared to show care and attention and empathy and be ready to have to mirror a customer's emotions. If they are concerned and sad, you must also show sadness and concern. All customer service workers are being paid to do emotional labor: an emotional investment in the emotions of the customer and actively communicating these emotions. It is work! To be clear, I am not trying to put it above all work. I'm definitely not trying to shit on the cooks who labor in the kitchen. But they are happy they don't have to deal with customers! That's my attempt.
Women want sexual violence and it's a trade off for what exactly? Being alone is worse than being a victim of sexual violence? Has this man ever had a conversation with a woman or had a female friend. Is he aware that there are female prime ministers and CEOs etc? I'm thinking not. It's interesting that the first thing he talked about is dating. As though that's the only thing that women are good for. What world is this guy living in? So sad to be so ignorant and to have such a narrow view of people. He's so rigid in his thinking. Circular arguments are so annoying. Debating with someone who can't distinguish between facts and opinion is infuriating. This guy seems to think women only exist to fulfill the needs of males and we have nothing better to do.
He needs to feel ok with not conforming to masculine gender roles. I see him as closer to a comrade than you may think. What he’s experiencing, and is failing to describe and understand, is toxic masculinity. If only he knew feminism would help solve that...
He’s hurt by manliness. It’s not individual women or men that are hurting him, it’s societal gender roles that are hurting him and causing him to be bullied and have a less fulfilled romantic life. He’s probably depressed, which is where all the ‘entitled’ feelings are coming from. He’s saying some real fucked up shit, but we have to understand that it’s coming from a place of hurt and deep sadness and despair. He NEEDS counseling, and once he feels better, he can sincerely apologize for all the fucked up shit he said about women and clarify that it was toxic masculinity that he’s been hurt by, not women
@@devchatterjee6553 sure we would. Women are just as capable of the things Jeff Bezow has done. Being a woman doesnt make anyone special. we're all human capable of greed.
@@tieflingcorpse9817 I work helping poor communities and advocating for funding for people who have disabilities so I would say I dont fall into that particular camp.
"The Black Pill is the Science Pill" Proceeds to dispense least scientific gibberish. I died a little on the inside when he asked Vaush how tall he was in middle school...
@@RsLeonardo1 I'm going out on a limb here, but I'd swear the reason there are no large scale studies disproving the Black Pill is because the Black Pill isn't really a thing beyond a bunch of common hang-ups shared by miserable bastards in forums. IMHO.
@@RsLeonardo1 ooh, cheers for providing evidence for why you're an incel: nobody wants to date you because you're unfathomably tedious company. Maybe shut down your channel and try befriending people, yeah?
Incel: "I think women should be raising you up from your sadness." Vaush: "Well why aren't you dedicating your life to amending their sadness?" Incel: "Because I don't want to." Holy shit my sides
ye why not, if some guys do stuff at home (cooking, chores, etc), they can stay at home, while their partners work. who cares who does what if both parties participate.
What really gets me is EVERYONE can do this if they have a partner or partners who consent to that dynamic, but also NO ONE can do this unless they have a partner or partners who consent!!!!! Stop saying "women can stay home" as if any and every woman can go up to the government and say "HALLO WOULD LIKE BE STAY AT HOME WOMAN PLES, AS IS MY RIGHT FOR THE TRADE OFF OF THE WAGE GAP, THANK YOOU" and get a fucking income for being a god damn hermit. No, the trade off for any stay at home partner is to be dependant on your partner and your partner's wage, in return for your labour. That can be slightly less effective for a couple where the wage earner is precieved female, BECAUSE OF THE WAGE GAP AND THEM THEN HAVING LESS TO SURVIVE OFF OF.
I mean, lets be fair here, there are a lot of barriers put in place to prevent and ostracize men who want to do that, i would argue almost the same amount as a woman trying to work in the 90s or so, and yeah they come from the patriarchy but i think saying "just do it 4head" without considering social pressures its kinda reductive
For me it's the normal as my dad was a stay at home husband and he still seems super 'manly' to me. But I put an emphasis on that as I do t belive in gendered roles. My mum goes out and works and my dad makes amazing food, gardens and goes fishing.
"I've been bullied my whole life" As a woman, same. I chose therapy. It's my partner's responsibility to fix my depression. Tough truth to learn when your entire perception is obscured by pain and doom, but coming up with pseudoscientific justifications for your misery is not the way.
It is not your partners responsibility to fix your depression. Its your responsibility to be as healthy as you can be for your partner. Unhealthy relationships do not last, and depression usually causes you to push your partner away.
As a woman who has been sexually assaulted and nearly raped by both women and men multiple times, I can confidently say the social cost of having more leverage in dating is NOT WORTH IT (holy shit)
This dude might be a troll cause this shit is honestly hilarious to me. Dude has got to be trolling, and I swear I can hear the smile in his voice and hin trying not to laugh.
@@justinlacek1481 I don't think so. That guys was all over the place and so confused, Trolls tend to have a plan and know what they are doing to be convincing. The smile and laughter I would say comes from him beeing insecure and trying to overplay it and probably because he sometimes thought Vaushs answer were stupid because he couldn't even understand the most simple points that Vaush was making.
30:38 I thought he said "compare a female novel with a male novel" and I was like, has this man ever read a cheap romance novel? (obviously not) You want proof of horny women, there is proof of horny women.
JokerMan666 No communist should ever vote for Donald Trump, which is what voting for literally anyone other than Biden is at this point. It’s harm reduction. Also, he usually calls himself a libertarian socialist or an anarcho-syndicalist/anarchist, not a communist
@@samscheller2331 I know this is off topic but I found out that Vaush supports the TPP which would outsource jobs dont you think that's not progressive?
JokerMan666 He’s not an anarcho-communist though, and most anarcho-communists are totally indistinguishable from communists outside of a desire for greater social progressivism and there tends to be far less class reductionism. You’re being incredibly reductive when you say that they’re basically just anarcho-liberals
I think he was trying to talk about the phenomenon of disabled individuals being murdered by caretakers. Of course, usually these individuals aren't able to prevent this alone, it's an issue of a lack of support financially and a lack of shelters for them, but this is still an issue for more high functioning people. Cops and the military regularly kill people with many mental and physical disabilities, especially invisible ones. Nice sentiment, but like the rest of what he said in this discussion, very clumsily worded and not very thought out.
I hate how he says “let’s go back to the point, or you wanna get back on point” as if it wasn’t HIS fault that they were off point from the beginning??? Don’t blame Vaush for getting so off topic
