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Women in Early Christianity (Part 1) 

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Did the early Christian movement have women in prominent leadership roles? What sorts of functions did women perform within the communities? Who are some influential women of the first and second centuries? These questions and more are tackled in part 1 of our episode on women in the early church.
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@alexandreferraro
@alexandreferraro Год назад
This is an important topic. Your contribution is enormous. We see in you a real love towards tradition, but with a different approach from American traditionalists who spread their voice around the world. I'm from Brazil. If on one hand the American cultural influence through cinema and TV has always been strong in my country, with social media this has multiplied exponentially. Especially from the political and ecclesiastical point of view. There were not a few years ago traditionalist Catholics among us. Now they grow a lot due to American influence. You do a great favor in the way you present history. Thank you (it's just a pity that only the few who understand English can follow you)
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Alexandre, thank you so much for the encouraging words. The traditional Catholic movement has indeed been tarnished by very loud talking heads, unfortunately. But underneath those loud few, there are a host of really good people who love the Gospel and the Church, and who are preserving the Tradition as it has been received, despite the obstacles put up by certain clergy. I, like you, hope those alternative voices prevail and come to the forefront after the passions enflamed by the Francis pontificate have calmed down. Time will tell. With regard to the language barrier, if subtitles are not too much of a difficulty for your friends and family in Brazil, you can click on the “CC” at the bottom right of the video (this turns closed captioning on). Then click on the settings gear. Then tap “Subtitles.” Then tap “Auto-Translate.” A drop down will appear with a list of languages. Click your language of choice, and then the video will automatically translate our episode’s subtitles. I hope this helps!!
@halleylujah247
@halleylujah247 Год назад
Great content! Thanks for covering this topic!
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Thank you for your support, we do hope you enjoy the discussion!
@annam3593
@annam3593 Год назад
This was amazing guys! Thank you. Where is part 2 please?
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Forthcoming 😊
@thecrazyenglishman1066
@thecrazyenglishman1066 Год назад
Greetings and Love from England. I stumbled onto your channel where you deal with one of many Taylor Marshall's videos and show it in the poor light it deserves. Your channel is a breath of fresh air. It appeals to a calm and balanced look at church history. Your channel cast my mind back to a book which Has had much impact on me, and that is Ramon Duffy ' Faith of our Fathers' which I wholeheartedly endorse. Keep fighting the good fight, Fellas. John
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Welcome aboard, John, and thank you for the kind words!
@gordybishop2375
@gordybishop2375 2 месяца назад
Poor light it deserves?
@Fruity_White
@Fruity_White Год назад
Very interesting, many thanks!
@patriciamayhew6321
@patriciamayhew6321 Год назад
We need an Office of Widows today. People are living longer now, but women more often outlive their husbands. So their needs to be a role for Widows and care of the widows.
@chadbailey3623
@chadbailey3623 Год назад
You guys are great! I ask you to pray for my daughter, who complains about sexism in the Church. Her mother (my ex-wife) and stepfather, who ended my first marriage by having an affair they refused to end, seem to be pumping her full of anti-Catholic rhetoric so if she ever learns of their affair, she won’t blame them.
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Will pray for your daughter, Chad. Our next two episodes on this may be very helpful for her, if she is even open to hearing out the Church on this issue. More to come!
@moniquelemaire5333
@moniquelemaire5333 Год назад
There are two books that you brothers should read concerning this subject:. "A Woman's Place: House Churches in Earliest Christianity by Catholic scholar, Carolyn Osiek... especially chapters 7-8-9. Also, "The House Church -- A Model for Renewing the Church" by Dr. Del Birkey. Dr. Birkey was part of the Mennonite church. Both are excellent and scholarly books that explain the role of women in the first few centuries of Christianity. Both come to the same conclusions. Yes, women were indeed leaders of churches. One woman mentioned is known as Bishop Theodora....Also, consider that in the whole of the New Testament there are no "priests" mentioned. Mentioned are Deacons, Presbyters and Bishops. Consider the following:. Phoebe was the Deacon of the Church at Cenchrae, Titus 2 mentions the Presbytera and Priscilla and Aquilla functioned as Bishops overseeing two house churches in Rome and Ephesus. Thank you for your channel.... happy reading. Miss Monique 🙂🌷🙏💗
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Hey Monique! Thank you for the reading suggestion, we’ll check them out. You may have misunderstood our argument a bit, as we do conclude that presbyters were nothing other than priests to the early Christians (and beyond), and it is on account of that that only men held the office of presbyter and episcopos from the beginning onward. We explain in the next video what is going on with these scant references to “episcopa” or “presbytera” in much later inscriptions. But, yes, women were very influential in many facets of the church’s story, with the exception of the priesthood.
@usafan1115
@usafan1115 Год назад
I was born and raised Catholic and for most of my life I’ve heard comments, by mostly men, about how women really had no standing, influence, or purpose in the church. Only Mary and that was only for child birth. Therefore, womens only role in the world was to bear children and obey men. Thank you for discussing this topic.
@blakeceres
@blakeceres Год назад
did the second part ever come out?
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
We are set to record it this week and release early next week. (Thanks for your patience 😊)- daily life got busy all of a sudden, but we’re getting out of the woods again and can pound out some episodes.
@das3841
@das3841 10 месяцев назад
Hi Bro's, interesting as usual. when do Virgins start being consecrated, and how are they consecrated?
@henrysylvester
@henrysylvester Год назад
Thank you for your incisive content. Could you affirm that the women who served in the temple were exclusively virgins even if some such as Anna were married. We know that Mary entered the temple at the age of about four and left the temple arround the time of her marriage to Joseph, which is why Joseph did not at first belief that Mary's conception was a supernatural act, because she intended to maintain her virginal status within her marriage. Your thoughts will be appreciated.
@essafats5728
@essafats5728 Год назад
@YAJUN YUAN awwright, our expert SDA with their half-truth always gotta be in on all Catholic RU-vid channels
@robinsnest60
@robinsnest60 Год назад
I heard from someone who said that they visited the Vatican and saw a list of pope names and the list contained a woman's name? After I heard this, I looked it up and found that it's a myth. My question is, why is the woman's name listed if it's a myth. Can you explain? I love your channel btw! Keep up the great work. :)
@JV-jr6ex
@JV-jr6ex Год назад
@9:22 - Steve channels Elmer Fudd to make punny joke.
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
What did you want me to do? Not…channel.. my Elmer Fudd? Lol 😉
@patriciamayhew6321
@patriciamayhew6321 Год назад
Women were important because of baptism by immersion and the need to have women attendants and even baptizers in the very early Jewish Christianity, even before Rabbinic Judaism split from Christianity.
@patriciamayhew6321
@patriciamayhew6321 Год назад
What about the Earliest Jewish women Christians? What was their place and role in the earliest Church?
@patriciamayhew6321
@patriciamayhew6321 Год назад
State your exact sources in Scripture and other sources that say there were any women who actually live in the Temple or any liturgy functions in the Second Temple? I want the citations please.
@R.C.425
@R.C.425 Год назад
As a woman, only men SHOULD be in persona christi, as women CANNOT be men. Christ, was a MAN and he stated he was sent by the FATHER.
@mpress469
@mpress469 11 месяцев назад
Spiritually speaking (gender aside), matriarchal wisdom can begin with a fundamental understanding of the cyclical nature of reality (God). Represented by the snake in many creation myths, the living cycle has a trinity of a beginning (head), a middle and end (tail). As above so below, the sexes were created in the image of God's cyclical nature where Mother is the head and opening to all beginnings and Father holds the tail to all endings (through which the sowing of seeds allow for the next great matriarchal rebirth).The joining of the two (symbolized by the Ouroborus or the marriage ring) is the sacred union needed in assuring the creation and continuation of new life cycles. To speak of the present day God as "Our Father" is simply an admission to our collective positioning within the bigger cycle. As all mothers have direct experience with the creator quality of birthing, so is the direct experience of rebirthing the divinity within (baptism) belong to that which is spiritually matriarchal. (John 3, verse 3-8). Sekhmet statues (ancient Egyptian) carry most of their weight in symbolic memory of what was a mother culture dedicated to the direct experience of baptism. As the leg shaped hairlocks extend from maternal breasts to the womb of rebirth, the lioness's head proportions are such that they highlight the bust of a second animal figure. The Lioness's ears as eyes and eyes as nose (nostrils) brings to life the figure of a reptile. 'Neath the halo headress of the solar egg, the lioness's egg fertilization process being internal (Set) and the reptile's egg fertilization process being external (Setting), such being key components to the safety of entering the trans-egoic or "born again" state. The life threatening fear associated with the predatory nature of a lion and/or crocodile encounter are reflective of the intense ego death experiences associated with the transpersonal awakening process. In spiritually matriarchal times, illumination could be seen as wearing the false beard (ancient Egyptian funerary "ego" death mask) as the high state of cyclical self knowing; high awareness of both our upper matriarchal half and our lower (later) patriarchal half (compared with a mini lower body replica, an "as above so below" tail end beard extension); in full recognition of her civilizational Underworld; her inevitable cyclical destiny. The male pharaoh wears his beard tapered in reverse, indicating a pointing upwards towards the patriarchal head, divine representative of God's tail end cycle. Mary's anointing and wiping of Jesus's feet with her hair can then be seen as "Head to tail" (toe) imagery as she descends her matriarchal head to his patriarchal feet, thus reenacting the high understanding of the divine cyclical process. (John 12, verse 3) To carry the Ankh (now the female symbol ♀️) was perhaps to symbolically carry that upper and lower understanding. As the upper matriarchal womb symbolised the fertile birthing of civilization, below, the now Christian cross is carried to place emphasis on the lower (later) "End Times" Father principle of the great cycle. Lord Ganesha, the elephant headed Hindu diety, displays a cyclical head to trunk symbolism and points to the Mother head of his matriarchal elephant society. In plain sight, Ganesha (like the elephant) wears God's cyclical nature on his face. A whole temple was dedicated to the ancient Egyptian goddess Hathor, who is the matriarchal "Uterus" personified. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J0m0zJSEFK0.html "See all women as mothers, serve them as your mother. when you see the entire world as the mother, the ego falls away. See everything as Mother and you will know God." - Neem Karoli Baba
@pegasuvius9765
@pegasuvius9765 3 месяца назад
You're not practicing humility guy on left.
@emmanuellebediat1653
@emmanuellebediat1653 Год назад
Rome need to repent and come back to patristiques and true orthodox doctrines
@TheCatholicBrothers
@TheCatholicBrothers Год назад
Elaborate, please.
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Год назад
Does anyone else think it highly ironic when Christians feel they have to "ape" secular focus on "leadership" when in actuality, your focus or claimed focus should be "Only God is Leader." Or is it just me? It just seems to me, when you focus on, "Who is leader?" You are inherently implicitly saying, that to not be "leader" is a bad thing. What about humility? If a man is humble, you will not object. If a woman is humble, suddenly that is BAD, and of course, needless to say, we all know that if a man does not have status..."leadership appearance" he is demeaned by all, Christians included. It just seems to me highly highly obviously hypocritical, that when it comes to someone like me your rhetoric will always be, "Check your sins" ( privilege ) but to everyone else...you will be all too quick to allocate "leaders" to propose "leaders" to offer examples of "leaders." Something about this dynamic of Christians saying what everyone who has REAL POWER wants to hear anyway, utterly defeats it's claimed message...when it comes to the truly powerless. To the powerless, The system "apeing" Christian seems to have NOTHING TO SAY, but when it comes to the powerful, suddenly, you bow to "leaders." Not God.
@JV-jr6ex
@JV-jr6ex Год назад
It's just you.
@tonyl3762
@tonyl3762 Год назад
"Only God is Leader" is not Scriptural at all
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Год назад
@@tonyl3762 And yet that is the whole point of having a Messiah. You already have a "mediator" between God and Man. Introducing a Pope replaces Christ with a mortal claiming an immortal ability: infallibility. You've turned what was meant to be a mere Patriarch into a Catholic Dalai Lama.
@tonyl3762
@tonyl3762 Год назад
@@charlesnunno8377 Christ ascended to heaven. There have been nothing but mediators ever since the Ascension, starting with the apostles to their successors in a long chain till today. Were the writers of the New Testament immortal? Not only were their writings infallible; they were divinely inspired. (Or maybe you don't know what infallible actually means?) You speak a lot of old ignorance.... You have nothing new to say to Catholics.
@charlesnunno8377
@charlesnunno8377 Год назад
@@tonyl3762 Your mediator is still on his throne in your religion. Replacing him suggests a "lack of faith." You think the head is not really there if he doesn't have a body right in front of you and doesn't sit on a fancy chair in Rome.
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