A Second Century Liturgy (Part 1) 

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In the Old Covenant Jews would have to bring an animal for sacrifice to the temple priest to shed blood and cover sins. In the New Covenant Jesus is the priest and offering by combining his self as the pascal lamb and the bread and wine of the Melchizedechian order at the Christian altar. So how do we participate in that cup of the blood of the New Covenant ? How do we get it applied to us to cover sin? Just believe thinking about it in our minds? Or John 6 and Last Supper commands?

Thanks for the comment Paul! Your thoughts are certainly welcome here. I would highly encourage you to start our First 500 Years series from the beginning and work your way up to this episode, as we began with the apostles themselves. Almost all of the points you bring up here are dealt with in videos previous to this one. The last thing that this channel does is read modern Roman Catholicism back into the sources. Anachronism is the great crime of our discipline (RU-vid thumbnail titles, notwithstanding 😉). Anyway, give the others a listen and see what you think. God bless, my friend!

@@TheCatholicBrothers I have studied this topic for years (early church) including works Roman Catholic authors. I look forward to listening to your videos. Cheers!

@@paulsmallwood1484 Why do you use "roman catholic" when you just mean "catholic"?

​@@paulsmallwood1484 Looks like you've got a lot more studying to do.... Who are the Catholic authors you refer to?? This channel has an entire video or two addressing the monoepiscopate, including in relation to Rome, but that topic is not really relevant to this specific video here about 2nd c. Christian liturgy. "scant evidence it even existed in the first century" Ignatius of Antioch is "scant evidence"? To put it bluntly, the guy won't shut up about the bishop and the bishop's absolute authority over his flock. It's in almost every letter he wrote. He is writing in the VERY early 2nd century, so it's completely reasonable to assume what he's talking about was a 1st century norm. "monarchical episcopate is not the same as bishops...authority did not extend beyond their local church or congregation" Christianity started off small. So it is natural that bishops started off having authority over one flock/congregation/local church. I don't see how this fact does anything to contradict the monarchical episcopate. Sacerdotalism/Sacrifice "But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, *that your sacrifice may be pure.* But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, *that your sacrifice may not be profaned.* For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: In every place and time offer to me *a pure sacrifice;* for I am a great King, says the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations.[Mal 1:11, 14]" Didache, c. 50 AD In the 1st c., Clement of Rome refers to the sacrifices Christians offer: "For our sin will not be small, if we eject from the episcopate those who have blamelessly and holily fulfilled its duties [literally: presented the offerings]. Blessed are those presbyters who, having finished their course before now, have obtained a fruitful and perfect departure [from this world]" "… These things therefore being manifest to us, and since we look into the depths of the divine knowledge, it behooves us to do all things in [their proper] order, which the Lord has commanded us to perform at stated times. He has enjoined offerings [to be presented] and service to be performed [to Him], and that not thoughtlessly or irregularly, but at the appointed times and hours. Where and by whom He desires these things to be done, He Himself has fixed by His own supreme will, in order that all things, being piously done according to His good pleasure, may be acceptable unto Him. Those, therefore, who present their offerings at the appointed times, are accepted and blessed; for inasmuch as they follow the laws of the Lord, they sin not. For his own peculiar services are assigned to the high priest, and their own proper place is prescribed to the priests, and their own special ministrations devolve on the Levites. The layman is bound by the laws that pertain to laymen. Let every one of you, brethren, give thanks to God in his own order, living in all good conscience, with becoming gravity, and not going beyond the rule of the ministry prescribed to him…." (then goes onto compare to Jewish sacrifices) "[quotes Mal 1:10-12] He then speaks of those Gentiles, namely us, who in every place offer *sacrifices to Him, i.e., the bread of the Eucharist, and also the cup of the Eucharist* " Dialogue with Trypho 41 Do you think these quotes from Ignatius of Antioch and Justin Martyr comport with your view of the Eucharist? "For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have *we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word,* and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, *is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh.* For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, This do in remembrance of Me, (Luke 22:19) this is My body; and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, This is My blood; and gave it to them alone....." 1st Apology “They abstain from the Eucharist and prayer, because they [heretics] refuse to acknowledge that *the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins and which the Father by his goodness raised up.”* (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 6) "I have no delight in corruptible food, nor in the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, the heavenly bread, *the bread of life, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ,* the Son of God, who became afterwards of the seed of David and Abraham; and I desire the drink of God, namely His blood, which is incorruptible love and eternal life." (Letter to Romans, 7) "Take heed, then, to have but one Eucharist. For there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup to [show forth ] the unity of His blood; *one altar;* as there is one bishop, along with the presbytery and deacons, my fellow-servants: that so, whatsoever you do, you may do it according to [the will of] God." (Letter to Philadephians, 4)

@@tonyl3762 The better question is how do you think any of the citations you supplied relate to the Latin Eucharist of today. It's quite obvious they don't.