It does not say in the Bible that women and men are equal I don't know where you get that from it says the anointing ordered is men AR over women and then come the children that is what it says in the Bible men are over women and then the children but it also says that men should love women as much as they love the Lord how can you go wrong if a man has that attitude toward a woman
@@gerryjones131 View it in the same way as you'd view the relationship of the trinity. God is the head of Christ (1Corin11:3) and yet they are equal in the Godhead. Because God is the head of Christ does not make Him more valuable or superior to Christ, but rather they have different roles. Remember the Bible also tells us that Jesus is God's servant (Acts3:26). These definitions do not indicate level of importance or any form of discrimination, but rather it defines order and roles of each party which in the end are supposed to be complimentary to each other.
@@gerryjones131 It actually says in the Bible that men and women are equal. We are all children of God as we are saved by Grace through faith. Gal 3:28 tells us: "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
Wow....just when I thought I heard all of his teachings this video popped up! What a blessing for me as a women to listen to this!!! Ruth I wish I also could have been your friend and Derek I wished I could be one of the helpers your were praying for!!! I know both of you are with the LORD! Blessed be the NAME OF THE LORD for what HE did in this couple's life!!! JESUS IS HIS NAME!!!!! Amen
On SB Who told you to worship men?? Where do you get that teaching? I don’t understand how you gonna put to two heads in one household? Anyways just rewrite your own bible because you said this bible written by men so write your own bible lady maybe that’s gonna helps you to calm yourself down. You got so much anger wow!
@On SB you are not lesser to me in no way, all I'm saying is if you really believe word for word what the Bible says then woman are to be under mans authority. History proves how breaking God's word always ends with disaster. Honestly we never break God's word we only prove it by reaping its consequences when we disobey it.
I love Ruth's humility and grace. The problem these days is that women try too hard to exert themselves . We don't need to prove anything, we're already so valued by God.
A secular and worldly minded listener would say this is discriminatory. However, God did not create fish to fly, nor did He create birds to swim. Both are equally as loved and valuable in God's creation, both serve their own purposes by the glory of God. Women are not lesser, we just aren't fit for certain roles-- just as men are also not lesser, but are not fit for certain roles as well. Fish don't fly. Birds don't swim. Both are loved and have their own unique purpose.
Spreading the Gospel... this job is one. CHRIST is boss. To say equal value without women having rights and opportunity to speak and spread the Gospel is not a demonstration of equal value.
Some birds do swim and some fish do fly, as well as walk. Stop trying to put God in a box.😐 If He told someone to do something, who are you to say they can't!?! 🤨 Better to obey The Lord. 🙌
@SusanW this is a foolish and rebellious comment, Susan. Men do NOT make the Order, but God does. If He sais "submit" to your husbands and you refuse to follow it, you are NOT following God and His Order.
22Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. 24Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
on the edge it is very very hard to see the love of Jesus in your writing but it's very easy to see malice and rebellion, repent and ask for forgiveness or your anger will just keep getting worse, said in love
we are all called to be servants and being a servant does not mean you are without a brain or below anyone, i think your definition of a servant is flawed, being a servant does not mean Jesus doesn't love you...Jesus was a servant does that mean God his father did not love him?? being a servant does not mean you do not have a brain or mind either...also you say that you BELIEVE this and you believe that BUT does your belief line up with the Word of God? Muslims believe Jesus was nothing more than a prophet, does their belief line up with the Word?? Someone once was going to jump off a tall building and was told if you jump you will surely die because of the law of gravity, the person replied back no I will be fine if I jump because I don't BELIEVE in the law of gravity...your belief will not change a God truth. There is no gender in the spirit but here on Earth there are God laws and order, fight it if you want but good luck with that one..Man is the head period as appointed by God himself...the Word is truth despite what you believe
on the edge we are called to be servants to men and God, serving our fellow man/woman is how we serve God...your belief is flawed and does not line up with god's Word, you are making a false god that you can snuggle up to and makes you feel good but that is not the God of the Bible. Idolatatry and pride is what you need to repent of
who said woman are second class? I guess Paul didn't hear from the holy spirit when writing and i guess God didn't preserve His word as his Word states hmmmm, is it possible you may b e wrong or do you have it ALL figured out
I had a cruel domineering father who mistreated us and really riled up my anger and resentment. This is so awful to live with because it is anti-Christ. But I want to learn how to please the father. So, I am trying to learn the fear of the Lord.
People, read the text in context. 1 Corinthians 11 verses 5 and 6 compare UNCOVERED HAIR with SHAVED HAIR. If you pray or prophesy without your head covered (aka something over your head) then you are just as a woman who has shaved her head. Therefore, you cannot conclude that when Paul says in verse 15 that her hair is given as a covering he is referring to the same thing; it would make no sense.
1 Corinthians 11:15 says that her HAIR is given her for a covering. In the 16th verse Paul explains that if a person is contentious over the matter then he affirmed that it was a not a custom in the church.
Many churches interpreted that passage as literal. Both in America and overseas. It's not until recently that it's been taught as cultural. What changed ?
If our hair is a covering then shouldn't men have to have their heads shaved? The 16th verse is saying that there is no such custom in the churches of women having their heads uncovered.
I know someone who explained it in such a way that Paul has repeated the argument of some Corinthians in a rather polemic manner; because of the way how unsound these verses sound. Like it really sounds somewhat weird if we are honest; e.g. the part with the angels suddenly. E.g. what sense does it make to first say women must have their head covered and later he says that the hair is being given as a covering? He asks: Is it OK for a women to be uncovered? Then comes the part with the nature and then "the hair is the covering of the head". From context you also see that in the chapter before Paul actually pled for not being legalistic about food. So from one chapter to the next Paul suddenly switches from "non-legastistic" to "legalistic mode"? I do not suggest that all of these arguments are correct but I really find it ambiguous because of the lack of logic consistency in the line of argumentation.
Man is ordained by God to be the roller of all creations, he is also the head of the women. It's a gift from God, and governmental ταχις. On the other hand, women are given to be the mother of all living beings, it's also a great gift (for those how got opened eyes and wisdom to discern) The spirit of this world is just the opposite to God's economia and to what God Is.
I was taught women and men were equal before God before the fall and all was bought back in the finished work of Christ. Is this wrong and can you give scripture?
The Salvation Army is not run by women. There are a very few appointments that a woman holds by herself. Overall, men hold the main leadership positions. For example, out of 20 Generals, just 2 have been women, both unmarried. The Mrs. made an inaccurate statement on that one :( However, I do appreciate the gist of your message and have enjoyed listening to your sermons. Thank you for your Bible teaching.
According to 2 John the letter is written The Elder, the Elect lady and her children. Her Elect sister was writing to her. At least here is an example of a woman who was an Elder, the Elect Lady.
On the head covering there are some african tribes or many of our women who don't have natural long hair and in that same scriptural text it says the womens hair is a covering, this is where it throws me off a bit in verse 15.
I listened for the entire clip, I was unfortunately saddened by Mr Prince's lack of direction regarding spousal abuse.. The answer should have been more detailed.. and inclusive of a clear direction for a believing or unbelieving woman who may be suffering physical, or sexual violence, to create a secret plan to get herself, and any children to safety, first and foremost.. Then to tell the authorities.. If her husband is a Christian also, then she needs to inform her leadership of her husband's unbiblical treatment of her.. Then while you are at a safe distance, in safe accommodation elsewhere, you with your leadership team can work out whether counselling will help.. but if the wife has been subjected to such violence that she fears for her life, or is too traumatised to conceive of working toward reconciliation, then seeing as though her husband broke the marriage covenant in such an unbiblical way.. she of course has the option of staying away for safety sake.. and that safety is a God given right! The daughter of the Almighty is not a punching bag.. and is not expected to suffer ongoing abuse of 'any' kind.. not violence, not verbal abuse, not put downs.. that is not love!! Her husband is commanded to love her as Christ loves His church.. If your spouse is failing to love you as Christ loves His church.. and if he continues the abuse, then the wife is under no obligation to stay within that abusive relationship.. My Mother was Christian, my Father not, and he was violent.. Mum thought she was doing the Christian wife's duty by forgiving constantly.. Us children witnessed bloodshed often, and that violence has devastated our lives.. it set the atmosphere for our lives, and we have all struggled as a result in our own way.. Do not tolerate nor enable your spouse to remain abusive or violent toward you.. and if there is any type or emotional or physical violence toward your children.. then you need.. for their sake.. to leave now!! If your leaving shocks your believing husband into counselling and remorse and true lasting repentance, then praise the Lord.. but don't fall for empty tearful promises.. If you've gotten to a safe place but are working toward reconciliation, even taking a year to feel out whether his repentance is real and long lasting.. is definitely wisdom from God.. ..but under no circumstance should you believe for a split second that being the 'handmaid of the Lord' means accepting cruel abuse from your husband.. Also, Christian husbands, two of my younger brothers have been in marriage relationships with emotionally abusive women, one was physically violent also.. thankfully that second brother left his wife.. My other brother tolerates the emotional, and financial abuse, the insults, the ongoing unloving attitude of his wife.. i believe his choice to stay in that abuse is a direct result of what we grew up with, and that's why he puts up with it all.. What we witnessed as children was not normal, not acceptable, and it provided a broken image to us children of what marriage is supposed to be about.. You guys too can inform leadership.. friends, family, counsellors.. and let the professional counsellors, or your Christian leadership, try to facilitate counseling if you feel you can deal with a reconciliation.. but you don't deserve that ongoing abusive treatment either.. A covenant has two parties.. it has parameters, and boundaries, once those reasonable expectations are shattered by abuse (by either party), the covenant must be re-evaluated.. If the abusive party repents.. Thank God! If not, it's the abusive partner who has broken the marriage covenant, and you are not obligated to stay in that destructive relationship.. married, or unmarried.. Abuse is 'never' love.. it is always simply abuse! Take courage, and in Christ's strength.. get yourself, and any children, to safety..
I'm so sorry for you and your brothers broken hearts, and for your poor Mum 😔💔 I pray that the hearts and minds can be renewed with the power of the Holy Spirit and the love of God xxx
@@Eternal_Hope_Q Thank You for Your kind and heart felt words Helen.. very much appreciated! And may it be as you have said! The Lord bless You and keep You in His loving care! ✝️🕊️🙏
@@wendymitchell8245 Most men don't have much anyway. Lol. In some Scriptures Paul says women are to remain silent in church, then he says they should wear coverings. He also says women will be saved through childbearing. OK, whatever, Paul.
Christine Church yes, it is a covering but if you are going to be giving prophecy or praying your head Must be covered because of the angels. See 1corinthians 11:5.
Stick to scripture folks. It’s says in 1 Timothy 11 as plain as day that women are not to teach in the church. So you mean to tell me God wants men to lead a household and for a woman to submit but then turn around and learn how to lead a household by the Gospel from a woman. That makes zero sense. Sorry modern feminism I didn’t write the book.
In my opinion, God has given woman something that cannot be understood by the world. The power of winning her husband by example. The power of a still and Holy Presence in them that conquers atmospheres. Anybody that comes into that atmosphere comes to his senses. It is this power that penetrates the atmosphere of the house. It is this power that penetrates the atmosphere in the church. I always taught that the preaching was the highlight of church, no it is not, its worship out of a pure heart in unity. The woman carries that still power that God reveals in Rev where heaven becomes quiet for half an hour. The preaching always points to the church to bear fruit, the woman is Gods powerfull example of the effects of Gods word, it leads to fruit. The most powerfull gifts rests in these graceful creations of God. I am going to say this with sadness in my heart, the day we lost our woman to wordliness and following the antichrist spirit of liberalism, well lost a blessing that we may not understand ever again. The men in the church kept on preaching, but conciousness of holiness became less important. Some even fighting againt God and His biblical doctrine of holiness by which no men shall see God. Many see half naked woman in the street and runs to the house of God to find rest and find the same thing there. With the porn becoming more and more dominent in the church in secret and the woman wearing less and less. Many feel hopeless and dont know where to turn to. Hear what I tell you right now brother or sister, get a brother to confess with or a sister. Brother to brother, sister to sister. Fast over the matter. Confess this sin in the presence of a mature witness. Challenge this spirit of pornography and cast it out in the name of Jesus. Rebuke it in the Spirit if God and tel it in the Name of Jesus, spirit of pornography, out, out, out, come out in Jesus Name. Until there is a feeling of peace and relieve, then ask the Holy Spirit to fill that place with His comfort, receive it with your whole heart. Also cast out all other spirits that you reveal to one another in the confessions. James 5v16 Confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. If you do not get free by private confession in your room, I beg you my dear brothers and sisters try the above. You will see how easy it can be. The Lord works deeply and mightily. Lets not loose more brothers and sisters like in the case of Ravi Zacharias, this was deeply painfull Hi had to confess his sin while he was in hospital, I asked fogiveness in general according to the perfect work of calcvary,that Jesus has done only and begged the Lord for mercy. I did it a couple of times until his passing. The rest is up to God our Father, He will decide. Job has done this for his children with blood of rams and goats, how much more will the blood of the new covenant bring mercy and grace to those who we pray for and confess their wrongs. In the end its up to the Lord. I had to say it, as the church fear to discuss this topic of pornography. I cast out this spirit from me personally, but its was so much harder then using a witness(if two agree as one there is faster victoryl, I coughed and spit it out and the Lord delivered me. God bless. Use this blessing to deliver the youth, I am free. Amen. Do it hastely, Jesus is there to help you praise God, He will nor leave us or forsake us. God bless you dear children of God.
Moses put vail on his face when the congregation afraid of God's glory that shone through Moses' face. Exodus 34:30 (KJV) "And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him." Exodus 34:33-34 (KJV) "And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face. But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto the children of Israel that which he was commanded." Moses did that because the congregation afraid of God's glory which shone through Moses's face. But when he went before God, he took the veil off. Moses did exactly what Paul said in his letter: 1 Corinthians 11:4 (KJV) "Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head." "But when Moses went in before the LORD to speak with him, he took the vail off, until he came out." Moses praying in the present of God without covering his face/head. From that we know that actually Moses' face/head shone the glory of God and he didn't wear veil when he went before God, but it was the congregation's fear that "forced" him to put a veil on his face. But we believers of Christ are not afraid of God's Glory because Jesus made us confident to go in the present of God. Hebrews 4:16 (KJV) "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." That's why we, men don't use veil on our head because the glory of God shine through our head. And women should wear veil because they shine the glory of men. 1 Corinthians 11:7 (KJV) "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man." Because only the glory of God that can shine among the congregation, not the glory of man, so the women musn't shine the glory of man. To do so, women should wear veil whenever praying to God.
Teach me oh Lord the ways of thy precepts and I shall keep it to the end. Give me understanding and I shall keep thy law, yea I shall observe it with my whole heart. Make me to go in the path of thy commandments, for therein do I delight. Incline my heart unto thy testimonies, not to covertessness. Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity,quicken thou me in thy way. stablish thy word unto thy servant,for thy judgments are good. Behold,I have longed after thy precepts, quicken thou me in thy righteous.
@@singingwindrider9881 It can certainly be discouraging. It is unfortunate that many single people are excluded from being considered a full-fledged part of the fellowship of believers. The Bible says that God places the solitary in families (Psalm 68:6). Please continue to seek God and allow Him to lead you to your family in Him.
I believe to that men should preach in the church not a woman preacher. I don't believe in women preachers because it says in the Bible that women should be silent in the church .how can you have a woman preacher in the church when it says for women to be silent and it also says in the Bible that women should not preach to men. I am a woman that believes that men should preach in the church and never a woman because what it says in the Bible women be silent and they are not allowed to preach to men
Bro. Prince is such a humble servant person. I believed God is so pleased with him. - Pray that God that I would have His mercy, that I would not decieved myself and others.
Thanks for posting, it was nice to listen to the servants of God explaining sensitive issues so humbly. They are the good example of how believers as couples should go about in serving the Lord with humility and love.
To preach The Gospel and to allow the Holy Spirit to give The witness to each person that overcomes The World . We are in The World but Not a part of The World. Our Faith separates Us From The World.
GOD IS ABOUT TO USE HIS DAUGHTERS, IN A WAY THAT IS GOING TO SHOCK, THOSE THAT THINK, THAT EOMEN ARE NOT TO BE USED THE WAY GOD IS USING THEM AND IS ABOUT TO USE THEM!!
God said Do not eat of The tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. The Name of Jesus Is The way Back To God Obedient faith. Is The Only Way. Jesus Is The Only Way To God. ONLY........WAY
I love Mr Prince; however, he taught incorrectly about women being able to speak prophecy. I corinthians 11:6 says she can because Paul said she needs to cover her head when she prays or gives prophecy BECAUSE OF THE ANGELS. So, she can prophecy.
angels as in "fallen angels". It is easier for satan to control a proud heart. women are more likely to be humble with her head covered...and thus less likely to be proud. Thus resisting satan and his tricks to deceive like he did in the garden.
I think I will stick with believing Derek Prince teachings, he has been in ministry for over 50 years.. I can see he as a relationship with the LORD... May the LORD bless his ministry..
Paul told when to keep silent in the Church because they were still under the Jewish law. When Christ came, Jews and Gentiles became one. However, there are some Jews who are still under the law, therefore ar not under Christ. When Christ came, he made us one in Christ. Gal 3:23-29, There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. READ other scriptures, Joel 2:28, Act 2:15, Act 2:17
Mmmm....well....Im much more comfortable when ANY leader, male or female, pastor, teacher, worship leader- is walking in righteousness, presenting sound doctrine, and anointed by God. We are told to know no man according to the flesh, but according to the spirit of God. Lets focus on the REAL issues of serious apostate doctrines rolling in en mass.
The carnal Mind cannot accept the ways of God. It was Jesus gift to His Father. God's gift to Jesus was to correct a universe as The Only Begotten Son Of God
That (incorrect )argument about women should also include Luke 16:18 -whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery with her. Ruth was divorced before marrying him, he said it on their video about how they met!
You right! God made the man first to his own image, and woman later from the man. Man is the leader of everything, woman to be listen and help to the man but not be a leader. Man more powerful to rpay to God and leadership because God been blessed the man first to more closer to God. In this days,, women are trying to leader for everything but they are not stronger than the men. This is the way of demonds won many women's heart and soul.
Your right, look at the pages of Woman in the church by Derek prince on his other pages, and see some of the daft arguments they are putting forward in their comments.
It's totally wrong and unbiblical. Your young men will dream, young women see visions, both your maidservant and manservant... prophecy is a gift of the HS it's not under any authority except God's
