Wong is An Abomination of A Character 

It can't unless you don't think about his character at all.

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p it can make him likable, not well written.

@@thephoenix4093 Exactly.

@@thephoenix4093 yep, Likeable =/= Well-written

tf are you talking about? Wong is the GOAT

That's Marvel As a whole not just wong.

Disney's over arching story to take over the world.

Bu-bu-but character growth. Creative liberties! Comic "accurate" look.

@@knightofkorbin888 ☝'finger wag'

@@joshuajackson4161 magic is literally a finger wag so why are you people being dense? Oh right because you are miserable people and can’t sit the fuck down and try to enjoy shit for what it is.

You're expecting competency in a Marvel production? Get out of town!🤣

@@erikbihari3625 Seriously. Get out of town before some batshit crazy witch comes and holds you hostage as her way of grieving her dead, lover robot and her imaginary kids.

I actually like that, fuck it seems so simple too how did the writers not think about this

It would've made much more sense if it wasn't a parole as much as it was Blonsky's first proper trial since his rampage in Incredible Hulk. According to the Sokovia Accords, anyone with enhanced powers can be detained indefinitely without trial. Episode 7 revealed in a throwaway line that the Accords were repealed, so Abomination would have to be tried for his crimes in order to remain imprisoned. If that little bit of world building had been established from the get-go, it would've made the premise of the show (and the opening arc) much more interesting.

I guess that could still be the case? They never show camera footage of like an empty cell exactly. They didn't even know he left until that phone footage leaked, so obviously Wong did something to mask Abominations absence. Either an illusion or he messed with the cameras.

We should ask for him to cover then the two Sonic l.a. movies!(like cw flash.)

you can enjoy something and still have problems with it

@@platinumwolf526The exception enforces the rule.

@@platinumwolf526 Yeah, hence why I said "seemingly." I'm not sure what his overall opinions on the MCU are.

Its almost like he does research for his videos. Crazy thought, I know.

Now that's comic accurate

@@jevy2099 LOL facts

I think this is just an issue with multiple writers. (Let's be real, this is even a problem with single authors, Araki forgot is a meme for a reason.)

See I’d be on board with that if the non event movies were more self contained in their stories, but since EVERYTHING has to be connected then it’s gonna get troublesome

@@razi_man Araki forgot is a terrible example because a lot of “Araki forgot” moments have been debunked.

Honestly Wong just appears to be a lazy replacement for Stan Lee cameos. Wong can just show up wherever he wants and do whatever he wants during those cameos because...Sorcerer Supreme. And getting Benedict Wong is a heck of a lot cheaper than getting Benedict Cumberbatch for cameos. And it's a shame. Stan Lee cameos could be silly things. But Wong is an identified character within that universe. If he shows up for a stupid fight with Abomination or becomes a fugitive of the USA in She-Hulk, there are supposed to be consequences for that. And that is supposed to impact who is character is and his arc. But instead they just don't care, use him in the same "this seems like a funny idea" way and further demolishes Wong. At this point we really don't understand him at all anymore. The guy he was in Doctor Strange 1 and the guy he is after She-Hulk aren't remotely the same character.

@@Flaris All Alike (so you may wanna watch): -Jay Excis Doctor-Who-Essay -Hbomberguys RWBY-Video and Sherlock-Essay -Madvocate and his Flash-Coverage -Most of Krimson Rogues Channel -Basically the whole Channel of Some-More-News and Hello-Future-Me I say this because the Art-Form of 'Eecommendations' aint dead. It just aint.

Wait till you hear about Luis...

It's criminal how Wong has been in so many projects yet Michael Mando has yet to take off 😑

@saimin yeah, it all seems so forced.

@@nenmaster5218 I’m subbed to Jay & Madvocate but I’ll check the others out, thanks!

@@VentA_7 !!!

@@VentA_7 For Krimson Rogue, i especially recommend his Roast of 'Empress Theresa'. Its hilarious af.

"It's like this, but the opposite"?

Rhodes had 0 devolpment and it has always been a sidekick. Is a miracle he survived the snap

He'd need to be a four D chess master for it!

@@erikbihari3625 😄

@@patrickleonard1114I mean try unraveling river song's timeline from her appearences alone!

@@erikbihari3625 I know, and the inconsistencies in what The Doctor's abilities are are huge

@@patrickleonard1114how do you know, gone through it with a fine teeth comb?

Gao is a hack, it wouldn't have mattered either way

@@ninjanibba4259 unfortunately so, this _is_ the woman who wrote the Pickle Rick episode.

All you had ro do was realize that idea is so complete utter dog shit and never make another comment again in your life. It shouldn't be that hard to do.

@@grandarkfang_1482 that episode was so corny lol Felt like filler

How would that make anymore sense? Why would they randomly make a Sorcerer his parole officer?

I think saying that the job of a sorcerer supreme is to protect the time stone doesn't in any way imply that that's their only job now we already know that sorcerer's protect reality that'd mean that the sorcerer supreme would just be the leader of those that protect reality I also think that it's well within Wong's powers to circumvent cameras in abomination's prison(though that's only a conjecture since we don't see it) i also think that Strange's comment on how Wong became sorcerer supreme on a technicality is not mutually exclusive with Wong's comments on him training for it it's like when Naruto became a Hokage, he was allowed to be one because he was just that good, but he was still made to study as a part of the process His problems stem from him imposing some kind of mutually exclusive presuppositions that needn't be true or haven't been shown to be true He later on goes to point out that Wong was training after Strange had already returned This once again shows that we just don't know what the process of becoming a Sorcerer supreme is, but that also means that he doesn't know either Strange was the Chosen One according to the Ancient One, that is enough reason for Strange to become the sorcerer supreme (along with his skills that outclass Wong) But at the same time, he's the Sorcerer supreme that sacrificed the time stone We don't really know the process of choosing a sorcerer supreme, or what happens when one gets blipped, or one loses the time stone and then come back Also, him talking about Wong's punches is just how sparring partners talk it's like DBZ characters fighting for a day and then reflecting over their fight Abomination is for helping Wong, he does it by sparring with him Also, it's perfectly reasonable that Wong would fight non mystical beings he'll fight those that he'll realistically encounter in a fight, that includes someone like Abomination once again, he presupposes that all Wong did in 5 years of blip is to fight Abomination, which is a completely baseless statement Wong is also earning money in this way, so him not fighting in a more secluded place makes sense, because he still needs money to survive(we have also been shown that Wong has some possible money problems in Infinity War) As for why didn't Blonsky tell anyone? it's anyone's best guess considering that Blonsky doesn't seem to be the brightest tool in the shed Now don't know about shadow dimension but what he showed us was the dark dimension And the mirror dimension isn't even bad, it's just the mirror of our own dimension it's a perfectly safe place to keep Blonsky The part of him being a fugitive is something I can totally get behind though once again, engaging in mystic arts is a messy business with the only consolation being the person that's doing the messing around(whether they're good or evil)

Well i think it's more like a tradition to have only one sorcerer supreme.

@@it6647 dude wrote a novel

@@Rio-zh2wb fr

@@it6647 We (I) salute too for making such a time consuming sacrifice. And also making things make more sense

It wouldn't destroy the multiverse

It's implied that they have used that forgetting spell multiple times. In NWH there was the full moon party that Wong didn't remember AND in she hulk Wong says "I know what you're thinking ms walters and I am NOT erasing everyone's minds again" considering strange was the one who did the spells in NWH Wong could be referring to another time.

Seems like undoing the spell was pretty easy, Strange just had to put the bad spell in that box thing goblin blew up later in the movie. Peter wanting to save people was the problem.

@@okand6770 incursions caused by people from other universes being in a different universe for too long/ at all. Go watch dr strange 2

@@mahoutsuguy863 Yeah that still doesn't destroy the multiverse. It destroys a universe or even two, sure. That's it.

I too find it improbable that Wong would want to be a member of the Waffen SS.

Well Strange is reckless... It could be possible that Wong had enough of Strange stupidity and decided to become ss.

@@slightlybettertoday6204 What recklessness prior to Endgame are you referring to?

Strange probably wouldn't have felt like he still had the skills to do that. Not only that, I think you keep that title till you die. Also Dr. Strange is off doing a ton of other shit, that wouldn't allow him to fulfill his duties as Sorcerer supreme.

Maybe he couldn't, or it's not just something you give up without a process and that process was underway?

Everyone has!

I'm just surprised he doesn't try employing it to the Sonic movies!

He's had 5 years of training during the blip....what has he been doing in all that time? Watching TV? There's no excuses of how Wong is written

@@ninjanibba4259 that’s true but I’m talking bout the implication that Wong is currently working on getting the title which contradicts the line in NWH

@@grahamdayam3693 this phase is just the worse....the more we think about it, the worse it becomes It really does seem no one cared enough to communicate the simplest details of the MCU structure

@@ninjanibba4259 true

I feel like you're right. Of course, plenty of other people have also made the highest grossing movies of all time... until someone out-grossed them. I can't wait for this to bite them in the ass, when they get dethroned and, due to years of not caring, are in no position to even put up a fight to get the crown back.

nah they haven’t even used the x men yet. L take

@@trianglemoebius Nah they haven’t even used the x men or fantastic four so L

@@imhim3717 you're sad and soon to be disappointed

@@CorelUser L

Without his ring he can't teleport, so he can be easily imprisoned. The hard part is actually catching him

@@skial7493 Wong is not going to jail. A streaming show can't majorly effect the MCU.

Jen actually is a good lawyer for being able to get abomination out of jail. She only fails to help the leap frog because he forgot to mention he signed instructions/ a warrant which isn’t her fault. Leap frog just failed to uphold information. Everything else is right

Basically why I didn’t like Legends of Tomorrow after the first half of season 3, which saw the introduction of the ugly doll named Beebo. At least She-Hulk was funny, unlike LoT.

@@Dave102693 yeah the final 2 episodes made me laugh a good bit

Werewolf by night seems cool, I’ve just seen the beginning but it’s not She Hulk at least.

@@Xlaeflicks that special kicked ass Was actually "something different" for Marvel

@@disguyz709 Yeah I was too tired to finish it yesterday but it definitely had something, just compare the cinematography of this “special” to half the MOVIES of phase 4 and you already get that it’s different. I guess they just wanted to spend more time and effort on it than on the 400 billion movie that Thor Love and Thunder is 😭🤣

I love how you say that they might fuck it up, like the original movie wasn't terrible.

@@garbagelmao2730 it wasn’t, the last fight scene was ass because of the vfx but the movie itself was fine

Yes, it would

Heyyyyy it’s clipped coin fancy seeing you here good sir.

Wong lied, Blonksy lied, they both just like to go to fight clubs, how is this so hard to realize for people? Of course Wong didnt force him to go, Wong asked him, and Blonksy knowing that he doesn't get to leave his cell ever, takes a chance to join a fight club. How is this so hard for people to understand?

@@SiriusArcher cuz it's out of freaking character, why is that so hard for YOU to understand? Why are you willing to accept garbage like it's a yard sale?

@@ninjanibba4259 I mean in She Hulk, He makes a complete 180 from who he was when we last saw him. So is it also "Out of character" for him to act the way he does now? No because it's character development. He might just do the fight club to blow off steam. He might do it, because it's something different for him to do while he is stuck in a cell 24/7. Who really knows. All you need to know is that Wong and Blonsky are lying about the real reason.

using the spell to make people forget would be a good thing no? why let them continue to suffer from the blip any longer than necessary?..

On a smaller scale maybe, but no it would be absolutely atrocious and what kind of abominable consequences it would have is insane by itself.

@@somethingwithultra7231 it has no consequences, only time it's dangerous is when you fuck it up, which strange doesn't when spider man isn't in the mix, so wong probably wouldn't either (assuming he couldn't just get strange to do it)

@@fortnitesexman By smaller scale, it means only few is directly effected. in Spiderman's case, Only A few hundred people knows peter parker personally and even less are directly influenced by him while for the rest of the world, it's just tuesday. Blip is something that's experienced by everyone in the whole universe for 5 years. A hole in memory of a hundred people will be felt by themself, but they most likely won't talk about it. But when the whole world have hole in their memory, they know something is up.

@@Dismiazs what?? literally what are you talking about, i never mentioned anything about scale?.. and..literally all of spider man no way home disagrees with you, noone would notice a hole in their memory because the shit writing says so the spell would've work if peter hadn't asked strange to change it midway through casting, and the spell at the end quite literally worked

That could've been a really interesting arc for Wong. A constant feeling of inadequacy because the battle against Thanos failed to go how it should have, twice. Not that Wong had any sort of connection to Tony, but as sorcerer supreme, he could be accepting that responsibility.

Honestly that's what I'd assumed him "training" was for to be able to protect the earth from the next Thanos level threat as the current Sorcerer Supreme but guess they decided that would be too interesting to write and just made it a whole big joke or whatever.

it's worse than that. Why does Wong get to choose his own opponent? He even tells Abomination not to punch too hard. It's pretty obvious that that is not what Shang-Chi had in mind. That fight was clearly for show, as evidenced by Abomination and Wong being on good terms. She-Hulk just made up some non-sense that does not fit. Yet another addition to the MCU that can be declared non-cannon. Along with.....most of Phase 4?

@@TheFuzzician These types of inconsistencies happen all the time in the comics and it's because of how different writers handle characters

My god, is everyone in this comment section dumb as hell or am I crazy? WONG LIED, BLONKSY LIEDDDD. THEY BOTH LIED ABOUT WHY HE ESCAPED HIS CELL. THEY BOTH JUST LIKE TO DO FIGHT CLUBS. HE DID NOT ACTUALLY NEED TO PROVE HIMSELF WITH A WORTHY OPPENENT. THIS SHOULD EASILY BE KNOWN FOR ANYONE WHEN THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY DID IT IN A UNDERGROUND FIGHT CLUB.

Especially when Strange is here. Why isn't he training with Strange ?

@@smilingman4299 Because Emil and Wong lied, they are doing something else together and the "Needed a worthy opponent" was a lie. At the end of She-Hulk there is a scene where Wong breaks Emil out of prison, and it's because they are setting up future events.

When it isn't?

@@erikbihari3625 probably never their monotone voice works so well with his style

@@SuperChez100.That's true!🤣

nah they used to be good at writing characters

Bro made me have an asthma attack

​@@supersaiyan6004 you should see your doctor. Or use an inhaler.

I think Wong doing some magic to the cameras happened (I refuse to believe Abomination's cell didn't have cameras). But that would raise more questions, Was Abomination's breakout a one-time thing or a frequent thing? Wong mentioned that he practiced with Abomination before the fight. And assuming the breakout was a one-time thing, how come the guards didn't try to fix the cameras or check with Emil?

So here you are, making an inference. Then complaining that it should not have been inferred yet shown to you. Why are you able to come to that inference yet you feel the need for it to be shown to you. It should be easily implied for anyone watching with any level of intellect that, that is the way it happened.

​@@SiriusArcher Because, as long as it's inference, "Wong messed with the cameras" remains effectively fan theory. Fan theories are great, but they should never be used to excuse lazy writing. "We'll imply some stuff, let the audience fill in the blanks" is great, and avoids over-expositing. "We're too lazy to fill this hole in, we'll just leave that to the audience and see what they infer" is the stance of a hack.

@@trianglemoebius You know what would be lazy? If the reality bending magic man didn't cover his tracks while breaking the law. Just because they didn't show you (yet), doesn't mean it's lazy. They just haven't shown you how he managed to do it for so long and not get caught. Not a fan theory if what they are doing is building character for Wong and subtly dropping hints that he may not be the super serious guy everyone sees him as.

@@SiriusArcher well see the reason for my complaint is A) my inference is to cover their ass, I shouldnt have to do that, im covering a plot hole for them, and B) my inference doesnt work since they knew wong did it, which implies a bigger plot hole

Not bad writing just idiots like you who think it is

don't forget critical drinker too

@@danielnidhiry5796 Critical Drinker doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about 90% of the time.

@@SiriusArcher u sure about that

@@danielnidhiry5796 Yes he's wrong about a lot of the stuff he talks about.

Both the necrosword and the shadow dimension are key points in Thor: Love and Thunder which came out before she hulk so not quite accurate there

@@RighteousBoone the Shadow Dimension isn't mentioned, referenced, or shown in thor love and thunder. She-Hulk is the first time it's appeared at all in the MCU; i think you're thinking about the Shadow Realm, where Gorr kept the children captive. the Shadow Realm is a realm like Asgard, but not one of the Nine Realms, just a barren planet devoid of life, colour, and light. While it is possible the Shadow Realm is the MCU's version of the Shadow Dimension, it's very unlikely as they fit very different descriptions, the Shadow Dimension is mentioned by name in She-Hulk while the Shadow Realm is only ever referred to as that, and the Shadow Dimension being (obviously) another dimension like the Dark Dimension while the Shadow Realm is an area or planet in space like all the other realms. Again, easy to see the confusion, there's way too much going on in Marvel lol

I thought it was the same...shadow creates dark...

@@kurocat471 they introduced so much shit that I think they don't know anymore what they are referencing...same with timelines, universes, realities, realms, dimensions...they use all these words in Endgame to describe the same thing.

Who doesn't?

Why do you people feel the need to constantly hate on things you don't even watch?

@@125loopy I'm watching it and I hate it.

@@125loopy as am I

@@125loopy Because I can.

That makes sense! Perhaps Wong felt inferior to the Ancient One (since he’s SS by default) and wanted to be as strong as her so he’d start training in order to be prepared for the next Thanos level threat. (And considering M.o.M. he really has to step up his game)

@@low-key-tony you can also see that he is uncomfortable, when strange doesn't regard him as SS, may be feeding that insecurities more.

So he can fight as many different beasts as he wants, but decided that one of them must be stolen from prison...

Check bully maguire!

No dude, are you serious, ass opinion. SHE HULK IS ONE OF THE MOST STORIES EVER MADE IN EXISTENCE

@@riptear7768 debatable.

@@thornnorton5953 NO, OMDSFGS SHE HULK IS SO FUCKING, IT'S CHARACTER ARCS ARE ONE OF THE MOST! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T!

@@riptear7768 How does this affect Morbius’s legacy though?

@@thornnorton5953 IT'S ONE OF THE MOST

Welcome to the mcu's topsy turvy world!

5 years of the blip would suggest differently, plus he should already have certain knowledge of the Arts since he was there before Strange The writers are incompetent and lazy

@@ninjanibba4259 The reason Dr. Strange became sorcerer supreme is because he mastered the mystical arts and was able to complete the Trials of Vishanti after the Ancient Ones death. Wong would have had to do the same, because this is the only way to gain that title. Wong may have been there longer but you forget the fact that Dr. Strange literally took on Kaecilius almost single handedly even while corrupted by the dark dimension.

Who cares about logic and consistency in the MCU? She-Hulk is a slice-of-life about the everyday of women's lives; it's all about the relatability baby! No seriously, they really said that's what She-Hulk is all about in some interviews.

No it wouldn't because it is implied.

When pigs fly!

I haven't, nor will ever, see it. So how bad was he?

@@jcore0981 walk of shame.

@@jcore0981 He was not done justice in this show. I can acknowledge he was the best part, but that doesn’t change the damage done

@@brendofire2084 I'm curious if this rendition specifically will be the permanent MCU one or if Echo and his show will essentially ignore this.

Morbius ruined memes for at least the next few weeks

@@anyways4438 agreed

Years*

YES. WONG.

And if you can’t criticize it, then it’s not a show worthy of, nor deserves praise or accolades. Because it doesn’t take itself seriously to where it _could_ hold up to scrutiny.

No, what actually happened is that she admitted that all the writers don't know how to do that

@@idaniluz652 _“isn’t that worse?”_ - Donald

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 it is