Wooden Fishing Lure Testing: How deep do you need to embed your twist wire? 

Hi, thank you for stopping by! I really appreciate your approach to lure making, truly top notch!

Many thanks, I really appreciate your comments! I am very interested in all things relating to lures. It's easy for me to get caught up in the anesthetics, but a good lure must perform structurally and functionally.

So what do you guys think is the strongest way to do it, I would like to start making glide baits out of resin is there any tips on what I should do?

@@zacharythomas6134 If you are casting resin lures, you can of course set your wire in the mold prior to pouring. However, you can also attach your ballast weight to that wire and encase it all at once. It will take some trial and error to get the proper configuration and weight, but once you do you can really crank em out.

Really be interesting to do the same test but 'roughen' up the wire before twist into form... You rough up most materials before gluing to increase adhesion strength why not wire!? Wire is very smooth and the only 'mechanical' aid to the strength is the twist of the wire... Another idea... Maybe less twist is better? The gap between the wire twists would be larger and thefore ... Possibly... Give more grip... Maybe even put small pins in the twist creating 'holes' that the epoxy can flow through anchoring the epoxy... Maybe the basic Haywire light twist like in a leader set up is all you need... More twist more fatigue in the wire... Also something to consider... Great video! Thought to send you the questions I posed on this channel... See if you would be interested in the questions... Less twist better? 'Rough' wire ... More adhesion? 'Holes' in the twist giving an anchor effect with epoxy flow through? With looser twist would a bigger hole that accommodates more epoxy give a more anchor effect? Would a more flexible epoxy give more strength? Micro bungee effect? All kinds of ideas popping into my head... Curious of your thoughts Franco!

​@@zimmtexsent the same questions to Franco that I posed to you... Plus a few more came up when addressing them to him... Like now... What about a figure 8 twist with a small loop embedded in the epoxy?

True enough! When you consider big saltwater fish without drag, they would yank you right out of the boat!

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Thanks! I wasn't sure if anyone else would find this interesting.

You bet, thanks for watching!

I'm glad you like it!

I appreciate you saying so, I will keep em coming!

I'm glad you liked it!

Many thanks!

Good deal! Thank you for your interest.

You are completely right. In fact, I made another video testing a big saltwater poppers and the hook and swivel failed. If you didn't have the cushion of the rod and drag, those bigger fish could probably pull you in! Thanks for watching!

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Thanks for watching; I'm glad you found this interesting. Great suggestion! I do have more lure testing ideas on the horizon.

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Hmm, you might be on to something there. Thanks for watching!

That would be interesting! Maybe I'll get around to that one of these days. Thanks for the suggestion!

So true!

@@zimmtex answered me while I was watching you swimbait video haha

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You never know when you might cross paths with that big fish. Thanks for watching!

Interesting idea! If you had a need for extreme strength that might give you a little bit more strength. Another side effect would be that the wire wouldn't be as stretched and stressed. Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!

That could be interesting! Thanks for watching!

I'm glad you found this useful! Going perpendicular to the grain (through several rings) is stronger than drilling parallel to the grain (between the rings). Your results would be different for a different type or even species of wood. However, this gives you a basic idea of what strengths you can expect. I found that ruler in my local hobby store. It reads 'Westcott' on it. Thanks for watching!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts; I think you have some great ideas for adding grip! I'm glad this test provoked some innovative thought!

I see, a little bit like an arrow. That's a good idea! Thank you for watching!

@@zimmtex try doing one with out epoxy and just screw in and see the difference?

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I think you're right; the biggest test of strength usually comes from trying to pull out a snag. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@@zimmtex …yes snags cost us some lures , though there are ways of retrieving lures from snags with poles and weights on lines to desnag lures , don’t always work 100% of the time but do get most lures back just got to get creative lol.

Great tips, thank you for watching!

It should be tight enough to not fall out on its own, but not so tight that there isn't room for glue.

I don't know if you've tried them but I have had good luck with Owner. I haven't tested all of their stuff but haven't had any failures in real life fishing circumstances. Thanks for watching and for commenting!

Through wire is preferred for bigger fish or for use in really soft wood like balsa. I think drilled twist eyes are plenty strong for bass and such so long as your wood is dense enough. Thanks for watching!

@@zimmtex ahhh that makes sense! So drill and insert loops wouldn’t work well with Balsa? That’s probably what I’ll start off with tbh for some top water/cranks

Well, in my opinion you don't need an expensive airbrush to get started. The one I use is affordable and does a pretty good job. There are lots of paints out there, but I happen to use Createx. They are widely available and they have lots of colors. I have most of the stuff I use linked in the description if you are interested. Thanks for watching!

@@zimmtex I agree with you, but if you want detailed work, a good airbrush is key. I started with a cheap airbrush, but while I was getting better, I needed something better to have a more detailed paintjob

Absolutely, as your skill improves you will benefit from nicer tools. Plus, it doesn't hurt to keep the older one for a backup. It's really easy to drop these things and they always seem to land on the needle.

I’ve used both and never lost a fish on either but superglue although strong tends to become brittle especially when exposed to temperature fluctuations. It doesn’t have any stretch whereas epoxy has some give

@@joelnoles4530 perhaps epoxy is more flexible, but super glue would penetrate wood grain way better and could reinforce embedment area for a stronger bond. Conducting a test would reveal the difference. I expect thin super glue for the same reason outperform gel type, though.

@@joelnoles4530 perhaps epoxy due to its thickness could create a higher flexibility, but a thinner super glue could penetrate deeper into wood grains building a stronger embedment strength. Conducting a test would reveal this theory though. When using a thin super glue, the closest tolerance possible for drilling hole should yield best results.

You bet! I can include that on the next torture test video. Thanks for watching!

I have seen that technique; it is often used with big poppers. Keep up the good work!

Thats a good question! I actually don't have any experience with twist eyes. However, I expect both have more than enough strength for lure making. Might make for an interesting test.

Hey Kyle! You are not the only one to say so. I have some more testing video ideas , so I will include that on the next one. Thanks for your input!

No problem!

I think you are right! Thanks for stopping by!

This test was conducted on poplar. Thanks for watching!

@@zimmtexdo u use it becouse poplar wood is soft? Easy ro handcarf

Yes it is easy to carve, but also durable.

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What I need is a pond full of really big aggressive fish to test lures on. :)