Wooden Hive vs 3D Printed Hex Hive, You Decide ! !

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Hey all,
In this video I compare two different Hive Kit set ups. First we look at the updated Vevor 20 Frame Hive Kit with Observation windows. The second kit we look at is the newly released 3D printed Hex Hives.
Vevor: s.vevor.com/bfQYv3
Hex Hives: www.hexhives.com/
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Timeline:
0:00 - Intro
0:16 - What we are Reviewing
1:00 - Vevor Hive Kit
4:30 - Hex Hives
9:23 - Recap & Thoughts
Equipment Used to Film:
GoPro Hero 12 Black with DJI Mic
Edited with Final Cut Pro X
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@HexHives Месяц назад

Thanks for the review Brian! Looking forward to seeing you place a colony 👏🐝

@Cal1nComan 25 дней назад

Did you just delete my comment?

@AndrewAHayes Месяц назад

In your video you showed an unenclosed printer, to print ASA filament for outdoor use you need an enclosed printer otherwise the parts will warp when printed.. Also parts printed on an FDM printer will not be 100% waterproof, eventually water will ingress!

@CastleHives Месяц назад

The company suggested PETG, so that is what I used. I plan to seal the outer cover, so that will help.

@VADARENSLILLAPOJK Месяц назад

Do we really need more plastic?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Unfortunately, we'll never get away from plastics. Appreciate you watching.

@marco46179 Месяц назад

They suggest to use nonoilen filament which i guess it’s more biodegradable

@VADARENSLILLAPOJK Месяц назад

Sooner or later, it will become microplastics. I am pretty certain that wood is better for the bees.

@vincentserreti4198 13 дней назад

bambu 3d printers also run biodegradable wood filament, not sure how it would work with this setup but possibly worth looking into

@Amigatech Месяц назад

Is the filament a food grade rated plastic? Also, white plastic will typically become brittle after a summer of sun exposure.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

PETG plastic is an FDA-compliant plastic for food, beverage, and medical packaging. That is from Google. I have had white PETG in the sun for 2.5 years now.

@vincentserreti4198 13 дней назад

yes PETG is a food grade plastic

@walterhiegel3020 Месяц назад

Looking forward to seeing more about the hex hive. Very interesting. Wish you would have shown the inside with 1/3 of the frames in a box. Will be interesting hw they do connected. Would be interesting if you had 2 towers connected and see if 2 queens coexist.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

You could fit a small excluder in that connector and do that, I'm sure. I'll do some follow-up videos when I get the frames done and a colony into the unit.

@craigkirich9646 Месяц назад

Brian, love ya man but... The Vevor is still slat boards. On the printed hive you should have gone into more detail on what printer(s) you used with the size and quality. Small and inexpensive printers will never print the parts and the print tolerance is low.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I have several Prusa and Bambu. You need a fairly large print bed.

@HexHives Месяц назад

Printers are getting better and cheaper every year, won’t be long until they are a common house hold item 🤷‍♂️

@FrederickDunn Месяц назад

Hi Brian, I'm playing catchup! Thanks for tagging me in this video. A 3-D Printed Hive? These are interesting times for sure. Wishing you all the best :)

@MsQuantized 2 часа назад

I haven't messed with the larger size hex hive but I'm printing the smaller size from hex hive. They're a little bit smaller than a nuc, but very easy to pop on new bodies onto them. This is my first year messing with them, and I'm a nobody on youtube. But I think they show alot of potential for many things in beekeeping. It takes many days to print a full hive kit of the smaller ones though. This large one would be a monster like one of their small hives full size (single body) in plastic is 20$ish. That many spools of plastic is like 308$ where I buy I think? Also this one in the video is a double box.

@marktechsci Месяц назад

I ordered a few Hoover waxed hives and they lasted 1 or 2 seasons. I don’t think I would go with waxed hives again.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Wax coated is definitely not the same as wax dipped, that's for sure.

@dannyh982 Месяц назад

I have been wanting to print a hex hive but the amount of filament it takes keeps me from doing it.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

It is a lot.

@BlueTeamHF Месяц назад

How much filnament did u use?

@eliinthewolverinestate6729 Месяц назад

Great microplastics in honey. No thanks. Trying to use less plastics. Microplastics maybe what kills the planet.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

The honey, when harvested, would not touch any of these plastics. Thank you for watching.

@JCsBees Месяц назад

Vevor: How do you know it's wax painted vs dipped? I am thinking it IS dipped because it would take too long to paint wax on every inch of every board. Thoughts? Kinda of weird the boxes don't come with nails or screws don't you think? And I see your bottom board is made of 11 boards just like mine, not sure I like that. The Hex hive is very cool! How long did it take to print it all?

@gregr5 Месяц назад

The holes in those windows will be propylized in no time. Andbin one seasoned you won't be able to see through them. Nice idea though. Just not practical. Same with those plastic frames. They will break in no time. Too thin. I've 3d printed lots of parts, and those just won't survive the stresses of a hive. Time will tell though.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I have a hive kit that I got 8 years ago with observation windows, they are still good believe it or not. The frames, we'll see. I printed the frames with a 25% infill, but we'll see. Appreciate the feedback.

@HexHives Месяц назад

These hold up. We have had test hives outside for over 2 years now. I’ve pried in frames with hive tools…everything hanging in there. You could always increase infill to 100% if you were having issues, but in our experience, that isn’t likely.

@ki6igr Месяц назад

Did you use PETG or abs? 14 spools ouch maybe I missed it thanks would like a deep dive into that hive box

@CastleHives Месяц назад

They recommended PETG, so that's what I used. ABS, I'm sure, would be stronger.

@garyRt23Bees Месяц назад

The major problem with Flow hives is they are having trouble getting them 18% or below in moisture. Most are coming out 22% or higher.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

The two times I've harvested from Flow supers, the moisture was below 17%.

@kh7794 День назад

I can see the bees propolizing the vents on the wooden box and make it impossible to see. Plastic, don't think I need to point out the obvious there however my first thought past that was to make some those entrances queen excluded so you could have individual towers of honey. We will probably never get away completely from plastic but I don't think we really need to find new ways to use it when a) there are NUMEROUS viable time proven alternatives b) we are trying to phase out, or at least drastically reduce use of plastic that will become unbiodegradable garbage c) doubt it would stand up in colder climates without having to spend even more money by either replacing broken parts or extra insulation d) very expensive (power for one was not added to cost) e) not proven f) had an f..forgot it, haha. Could end up making numerous kits before the appropriate material is found for your area adding to a huge waste and cost. It's just unnecessary and redundant. Oh! Remembered my f...the frames don't look like they would fit the standard, common or most used extractors, do they? Or is that going to be another cost or inconvenience? Makes as much sense to me as specially produced styrofoam products for beekeeping like the nucs! Some of these ideas are just sloppily thought out, fly by the pants, short sighted, to hell with our environment money making schemes. Keep using materials that the environment doesn't like and you don't need to worry about beekeeping at all anymore because there won't be such a thing possible.

@rodneymiddleton9624 Месяц назад

Looks great Brian!

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Thanks Rodney. .

@vincentserreti4198 13 дней назад

Is this Profitable setup as far as honey? i am thinking about printing 50 of these

@CastleHives 13 дней назад

That's hard to say. The frames are not standard size, so you can't use a standard extractor.

@Cal1nComan 25 дней назад

Edited: Guys, watch out for these guys. STL files on sales may not be the ones in the video, and they straight up just delete any comments that are in any way negative. Bit odd behaviour from the makers... But great review from Castle Hives!

@CastleHives 25 дней назад

100% not true. The files are straight from the website. I am.100% transparent with any product I review and will never cave and provide information that is false.

@Cal1nComan 25 дней назад

@@CastleHives I replied to them twice asking the question about the discrepancy between the site description and what's in your video and they deleted it....

@CastleHives 25 дней назад

@Cal1nComan I can't answer to that. All I know is this was the Mega, purchased and downloaded from them. Nothing was altered as far as size, so 100% true to what was provided.

@Cal1nComan 25 дней назад

@@CastleHives so you had the slanted roof, etc. in the pack? Website description states for instance a flat roof design. This is why I flagged it, I simply replied to their comment on here asking them to confirm if what's in your video was included and it was immediately deleted. It's got a lot of potential and you did a great job reviewing, I literally had the mega pack in my basket after watching but now I'm skeptical. Bit of googling and Reddit threads mention similar behaviour from them too unfortunately :(

@CastleHives 25 дней назад

@@Cal1nComan Everything you see in the video was from the mega, nothing altered.

@brucesbees Месяц назад

Will be interesting to see how the bees do in the Hex Hive.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I'm curious how they'll perform.

@Jdban Месяц назад

@@CastleHives When are you putting them in?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

@@Jdban As soon as I get foundation in the frames..

@suburbanhomesteaderwy-az Месяц назад

The video was so interesting Brian.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it Sandi. .

@DerekBarnes-ut9kg Месяц назад

What type of 3D printer plastic did you make the Hex Hive from. The cheapest material PLA doesn't cope with sun or weather and becomes brittle very quickly. The more expensive ASA plastic is UV tolerant and is supposed to last for years outside.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

They recommended PETG, so that's what I used. I've had some prints using PETG outside for close to 2.5 years now.

@richardrbrynerjr.7912 Месяц назад

I like wood, but lets see what the bees like and bait them both and see which they like! Maybee we can place bets?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Hah, if I was a betting man i'd take you up on that. But, my luck is horrible so I stay clear of bets.

@suburbanhomesteaderwy-az Месяц назад

So So Cool

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Thanks Sandi. . Me being a gadget person, I kinda like the Hex Hive.

@TheCoppyCat Месяц назад

What filament did you use?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I used PETG. That is the filament that was recommended by Hex Hives.

@gallowaylights Месяц назад

I like that this hex has all the same frames... others I've seen have 3 different frame shapes. 😊

@CastleHives Месяц назад

They are slick. And, you could increase the infill to make them even stronger.

@matthunt4512 Месяц назад

It’s always fun to try new things? I would give it a shot Thanks for bringing this new Hive build to your viewers

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Happy to share. Now I just need to get foundation in the frames and a colony inside of it. Hopefully i can get that done in 2-3 weeks.

@jessicafairfax_Bens_Bees Месяц назад

Jey Brain, thanks for sharing the hex hive. I'm interested in seeing how that goes in the long run. Question though, is there space between the 2 layers of frames or do the frames come together and touch when you put them together?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

There is a small space. I am thinking it is proper bee space to be honest.

@HexHives Месяц назад

We spent a long time engineering and designing everything to have proper bee space. :)

@crutterjr Месяц назад

Both are nice Brian but kind of lean towards the Vevor? The Hex Way looks like it would help out more by connecting 2 together like you said would help in not splitting up the hives??

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I like having uniform equipment, so wood works best for me. The 3D printed, i'll try it as a novelty item. TIme will tell how it does. Thanks Chuck. .

@ThePastadamionito Месяц назад

It's incredible !

@Beeyond-the-lake-honey-co. Месяц назад

I wanna see you stand on the box lol

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I might. . I'll post a picture on my community tab if I do.

@Jdban Месяц назад

How long did it take to print? Do they have smaller super boxes too? What's the plan for queen excluder? (I guess you could print one) What's the plan to extract honey?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

It took weeks, between 3-4 weeks. I only used 1 of my printers though, so That could have been sped up, I just didn't want to eat into print time for other projects. 1 Wall piece of the 4 for the upper ttook 15 hours, so 60 hours for 1 box, that is not including the frames or supports. Excluder, I'm going to make one to fit. For honey, I haven't quite thought that far ahead. Appreciate the questions.

@user-vd9vi1vn8l Месяц назад

Is the hex for production or more a resource hive?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Either. You could go as high as you want and connect as many towers.

@hamburghoney Месяц назад

So now you need to 3-D print an extractor for those special frames!! LIke the look of the wood on the vevor hive.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Hah, yes. A 3D printed extractor. I would probably do the old crush and strain technique on these.

@jasonseaward8506 Месяц назад

The deep nody looks like theres a horizontal split about halfway down. Is that just the grain etc?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

It is, yeah. They are solid. In the sun, the camera picked up every flaw.

@bobbyperkins9188 Месяц назад

Can you get a screened bottom board for the vevor hive

@CastleHives Месяц назад

They only have solid bottom boards.

@2002bam Месяц назад

what size are the frames in the Hex Hive

@CastleHives Месяц назад

244mm x244mm, or 9.6 inch by 9.6 inch.

@thefilamentcorner Месяц назад

I was watching a video from a channel called Fangflyer a few days ago about the hex hive. He was using the smaller sized hives. I am curious as to how the isolation from outside temps will be. I've gotten some interesting data from the printed hive I have bees in. I've also noticed propolis seals when I refill the internal feeder. I'm just curious like you if the bees will mass coat the inside with propolis. Best of luck with the new hives.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

That is what I'm curious to see as well, do they layer it with propolis. Thanks for watching. .

@WildwoodsBeekeeping Месяц назад

First! Hey Brian

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Hey there!

@BrianJMader54476 Месяц назад

Interesting

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Isn't it. .

@CMad1121 Месяц назад

LETS GOOOO!! #hexhives

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Hahaahahaha

@BackBeeBrokenBeekeeping Месяц назад

Great review. I have a BeeCastle hive with viewing windows that I reviewed. Impressed with their product also. However I am looking forward to see how long the viewing window stays viewable and if the bees leave it alone or put propolis all over it.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I have a kit that is 8 years old, from another company, and the windows are fine. They will get a little bit of wax and propolis on them, but not enough to block your viewing.

@blacktalonbased Месяц назад

Super cool. Looks like a gatorade jug! I was shocked at how much filament it takes.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Hahaha. . You're the second person that said Gatorade. And yeah, it takes a lot.

@blacktalonbased Месяц назад

@@CastleHives is there any anticipated problems with micro plastics? Was that a consideration when choosing the filament?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

@@blacktalonbased I don't have any concerns. When I harvest, I'll use the crush and strain, so I'll scrap off of the foundation.

@DerekBarnes-ut9kg Месяц назад

Does anyone know how long the 3D printer plastic stands up to sun and weather compared to wood? Some plastics become very brittle in a short time.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I've had a few 3D printed objects with PETF, same as this, and they've been in the sun for 2.5 years.

@essentialoilswithlucie93 Месяц назад

I'm new to beekeeping - in fact waiting for my first NUC any day now. I'm just curious regarding if the Vevor having those observation windows might be a problem in the winters here in NE Ohio. Would it be more difficult to keep warm in the cold winters?

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Great question. I have a Hive Kit, my first one actually, that has the same style windows. The wood inserts that block them off are enough to keep them insulated. The Bees do not warm the entire box, just the cluster.

@tmd0402 Месяц назад

Very curious to see how the bees do in that hex hive. Seems it would be pretty expensive to make.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

$239 per double stack. Now, if you got filament at a discount it'd be cheaper.

@illumi-Nate Месяц назад

I do like that vevor but im poor & ill take my homemade rough sawn boxes that are made out of denser wood than pine, the bees coat all the saw marks in propolis & the bees over winter way better than a pine box.. I been using hard maple & cherry lately... but if I had the money I'd probly just buy boxes lol,... ALOT of work the way Im doing it

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Time is the factor that gets me. I have a tablesaw and the tools to make boxes, no time to do it so i buy.

@illumi-Nate Месяц назад

@@CastleHives yes bee equipment is super time consuming! I was making frames but I definitely buy those now, they take forever, to many intricate cuts, but boxes , lids & bottom boards I make, I have 2 table saws set up 1 is strictly for a dado blade so that helps save time of changing blades..I don't buy wood but I have to mill it on an old antique circular saw mill from trees I took down out of my woods.. it's fun but definitely a ton of work

@ToBeeOrNotToBeHoney Месяц назад

I wonder how the printed hive will weather. I use PETG for a lot of stuff for outside, but the sun and rain do take a toll on the plastic. Also with all the micro gaps in a 3d printed object I wonder how it will deal with freezing and thawing. Water in the gaps may cause them to split. How strong are the frames, after getting glued down in winter it may be tricky getting them loose in the spring. I have several 3d printer, but I am skeptical about this project, high cost relative to proven wooden ware. Looking forward to seeing how well the girls take to it.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Valid points, Rodney. Tme will tell. I'm going to get a colony into it and see. The only way is to test it out.

@laserengravingwithmatt Месяц назад

Let’s put bees in it and see how it does. I bet the bees will fill the holes on the vevor hive.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I bet they do also. I think I'll have the hex hive with Bees in 2 or 3 weeks.

@saintjohncoleman8602 Месяц назад

I just want to buy all the hives!

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Haha. . Same.

@groundhogcow992 Месяц назад

I made a 3d printed hive last year. The bees liked it, but I had a lot of issues with the pla warping in the summer heat. Come winter I was using caulking to seel the cracks where it separated. I had a lot of trouble pulling frames in the warped hive also. My design was not a hex do maybe that makes a difference. Had a moisture issue in spring that got the bees. Redesigns have a lot of design and material issues.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

I wonder what PETG will do, that is what I used.

@groundhogcow992 Месяц назад

A good exparament. I used pla prataly because I was trying to get the cost down to closer to a wood hive. I might still try a 3d printed hive. (my 3d printed frames work great. Trying a new exparamen with them now. ) I might try ABS as a material but it costs more.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

@@groundhogcow992 ABS would be great.

@honey_bee_live Месяц назад

This has so much potential… This would be a great alternative for countries that make concrete hive to protect from termites and other wood prone pests.

@CastleHives Месяц назад

Agreed. I can't wait to see how a colony performs in it..

@rpeebles Месяц назад

As you know I am a huge 3d print guy but 14 spools per double stack? That would have taken a long time to print the parts as well. However, it should last far longer than wood and if you want more "boxes" it's just the cost of plastic and machine time. I assume it was petg and I have had great results with it in our Texas sun. Be interested to see how this works over time. Thanks Brian!