World Building in Anime (Overlord & Darling in the Franxx) 

greatest sequels of all time

U took the words out of my mouth

"How to pretend you have solid world building before the shocking reveal!"

I've been getting that video in my recommendation several times now, that's why I watched this video first

@Bennet Olander wtf same lol

^

Sure, VRM does kill the world building in the later episodes, but the show's earlier world building is still really, really good.

He added a video later called "How Franxx wrecked its world building"

@@dio8451 Once I saw the exposition dump episode, realized "oh crap, the worldbuilding wasn't vague in a "show-don't-tell" way, it was vague because it wasn't thought through.

I love hindsight.

Well, his guild's other members have funny names, such as "Lord Touch-Me".

@@KrazedHeroYT to be fair, Touch Me-sama's full name is actually Touch Me If You Can because (forgive me if I'm wrong) he was the top non-human PC in Yggdrasil

@@HazeEmry he also had a glitch that made him literally untouchable.

shadow blade I think he was just that good.

@@shadowblade9666 That's actually not true. But he was the World Champion of Alpheim. Basically he got the class [World Champion] and that dope set of armor from it. When he finally left the game he was around top 3 in Ygg.

It’s like when people call Jojo “muscle hentai” I mean they aren’t wrong, but that’s not why people watch it

I mean if they played it straight it would be, but instead they injected a healthy dose of comedy into it and made it a black vs grey if not outright black vs black situation.

Yeah, they watch it for Albedo.

PhantomFire Overlord Fans like us are Suckers for Lore and Overlord Provides

@@Abdega speak for yourself! I love watching Joseph Joestar flex

Andrew Clements Yeah, that was pretty harsh. :'(

Who doesn't love combustion engines

the fine points of engineering and thermodynamics are a favorite topic of mine for long car rides.

Combustion engines> steam engines

If by "steam engine" you are specifically referring to the old piston type engines, then generally yes. However, if you are comparing I.C.E.s to steam plants with turbines, then it is significantly more complicated and depends on application.

The Garden of E sim 117 but isn't it still a game? He uses menus...

moogen berserk but the world itself is entirely different for the world he and his npcs was transported into is not Yggdrasil

The Garden of E sim 117 but the menus?

moogen berserk The only menu in the New World is the one in the throne room. That's because the throne is a World Class Item.

Whaa

Tell me their name and I will make sure they end up 6 feet under. *HOW CAN THEY EVEN DARE*

Honestly Overlord is more similar to Log Horizon than SAO, But only in game mechanics, as in, you just do things instead of going through 30 menus. That is where the similarities end though

You're right. Log Horizon is way better than Overlord.

@@a.velderrain8849 Can you tell me why? Been planning on watching it.

@@ItsSupercat94 Log Horizon is what would have happened had the people behind SAO actually played an MMORPG once in their life. Elder Tale, the game in Log Horizon, has all the aspects of a real world MMORPG, and every little detail matters to the plot. It's clear the writer really considered what might if an MMO became a real world, and thought about what might happen with things like NPCs, item flavor text, the game economy, etc. And instead of friendship and determination being all you need to achieve victory, the characters triumph over their obstacles by working together as team, with everyone learning how to perform their party roles just like in a real MMO. It's clear there was a lot of thought put into the story and world building, and the characters.

Yeah, he is not trapped in a game. He was spirited away to a shitty and cliche fantasy.

But he uses menus and everyone uses game terminology !

Jakub Składowski okay what’s shitty and cliche bout it?

only the throne room has menus... the throne is a world item itself.

its hard to explain to the people who never read the novel

its 1 of the things that jojo so good. The world in each part has a set of rules and the characters follow it without being in contradiction with this rules, until the rules change for some major event or introduction of a new power.

I know this is superlate, but i did read he is a DnD fan somewhere

@@khalilrahme5227 The reason he even started writing is because his Friends didnt have time to play DnD with him

@@flames2089 peak modern fantasy author right there.

The Fanservice is so sad.

​@nenmaster5218 Fanservice, in and of itself, does not make a story bad. It can, if the series prioritizes it over the story, but from what I've seem Overlord handles it pretty well

magus bride does this expertly

then sudden 3 pages long description of nature shows up

Did you just quote Tolkien on NOT info dumping... the same guy who wrote dozens (if not hundreds) of pages of pure exposition dump? Not going to lie, Tolkien is a master of making exposition dump feel awesome... but he is the worst person you could possibly reference to suggest not using exposition dumps.

mathig nihilcek upon reflection that was bad wording...

Descriptions of nature are not necessarily info-dumping, at least not in the manner that phrase is defined her. Describing the immediate setting is important in a book--it does not have visuals like TV, where the scenery's existence is not viewed as info dumping. Of course, one can go overboard with this, but info-dumping in this sense is about dropping large amounts of information unnaturally regarding the mechanics of the world. It comes across as forced and unrealistic. Also, just because he's using a Tolkien quote does not mean he's talking about the author's works. Going off that quote alone, it ties into what Jacob initially stated, aka what's effective when it comes to world-building.

The Suicidal Muffin yes

The Suicidal Muffin "who wants a muffin!?"

Waifu powered mech consoles

Ichigo would've been best girl in most series but zero two man

Yeah... That's code for sex, right?

We're talking about Maruyama here. It'll come back to hit us in the last volume somehow. ~My opinion after reading Volume 14

@@flames2089 Ainz is going to start a bottled water company and salt the ocean so that people have to buy from him.

@@shinymetagross1666 Big Brain. He'll be called a saviour of people yet again lmao

My favorite detail is that terminal velocity does not exist.

Ricardo I'll be ur friend. It sounds like a really interesting subject too :)

Thanks m8. I'm just obsessed with cars, but also a lot of other mechanical and pre-digital technologies. Hydraulic control systems are a thing, and they're AWESOME, it's literally a simple computer that uses liquid or air instead of electricity. You can find me talking about and messing with cars all day, but internal combustion really is awesome. It's technology that feels organic in the way it works. It's noisy and shakes a lot and feels like its alive, every variation in design results in a different personality for the engine. I struggle to relate to computers, I can't feel them, only respond to visuals. With cars, you can feel and hear them and you know what they're doing, but more importantly you know what they're *trying* to do. They talk to you, if you listen.

Ricardo hmmmm never thought about cars that way. Well I'll try to listen. Though I have to say u really are enthusiastic about this stuff, do u do anything in that profession (like car's engineering or something?) or do u want to be? Anyway I hope u will find some rl friends that will share ur love and enthusiasm to this subject.

I'm studying mechanical engineering, I'm also in my university's off-road racing team. I actually do have some enthusiastic friends (The racing team), I was mostly joking about the fact I represent a very small portion of the population. Appreciating cars is as simple as driving a handful of vehicles of different types and from different eras. I find the 80's and 90's cars have the best blend of mechanical and analog systems, as newer ones start to delve into the digital. Some people really like the feeling of more modern, smarter cars, with computers cutting in hundreds of times per second to make tiny corrections. If you drive the same family sedan or minivan all your life, you may go the entire time never finding cars interesting because the cars you know aren't very interesting, but I urge everyone to try out driving a weird car at least once, it can be a friend's car, a test-drive at a dealership or a rental, but once you try a few different vehicles you start to notice how their personalities differ.

Ricardo computers are a little more than just visuals, but it's much more subtle than with an engine. You've gotta be knowledgeable enough about the systems at play and have a strong enough intuition/grasp of cause and effect to be able to diagnose problems. Whereas anyone who notices there car vibrating can probably figure out they should replace the tires or adjust the suspension.

Actually, Goro is best girl.

The Suicidal Muffin damn straight

I usually can't resist pink hair, but fuck no Ichigo is best girl by far.

LOL

False. All of you are wrong. Ochako Uraraka is best girl. Anime awards.

It's compliance training. We get it every year.

Not so much fantasy media as much as "Shonen" genre stuff. Explaining things and having a "stupid character" is the bread and butter of shonen anime and is used as a tool to force explaining stuff for the sake of explaining stuff. Sometimes the stupid character isn't the main character in shonen series, but many times it is. (Goku/DragonBall, Naruto/Naruto, Onoda/Yowamushi Pedal, Luffy/One Piece, etc. ) I am not sure I have ever observed this behavior outside of the shonen genre, but if anyone has please feel free to give me a few anime/manga series as examples.

Don't forget Ash from pokémon, he started of as a complete newbie pokémon trainer that needed Brock and Misty to explain most things to him, and after the Johto league they decided to reset all his character development so people could explain him the same things he already learned all over again. For a non shonen show, I think sailor moon may count.

It's just pretty standard to the farm-boy Hero's Journey routine, regardless of target demographic. Really, the person who ought to be the hero is the person with plenty of training and/or experience. A noble, not the farm boy; the actual wizard rather than his brand spanking new apprentice; and so on. Make the protagonist a person fresh off the farm, though, and you can explain all the rules about magic, prophecy, political structure, and so on to the audience with the excuse that someone is informing the main character.

I hate those with a passion.

SENKRAD well 16-24

hey the last few episodes were amazing to laugh at

SENKRAD first 13 episodes are the best and i try to forget about the last 13

And everyone trashed black clover

SENKRAD the last episode is so bad and rushed it literally gives you depression

Me and my friends casually talk about combustion engines

Seth Yoder it’s possible for season 2

UR MOM V 3 well VIRM didn’t die,and end of the anime there was sentence” and the new story begins”

Seth Yoder it was good before they rushed a stupid end into like 4 episodes

@@ignoremypaststupidity2719 they should have made a movie that actually explained the last arc in detail instead of it being rushed

Are you sure you're not a character in a bad anime?

I just realized how to make exposition dumps work flawlessly. The person giving them just has to be giant nerd who's probably at least slightly autistic. You learn some important aspect of the world while simultaneously learning about the character.

YumLemmingKebabs now I'm just imagine autistic characters wandering around Shounen world's like DB and OnePiece XD

All the while, helping clarify the actual characteristics of autism-spectrum disorders, resulting in a reduction in misinformation and stigmatism of those diagnosed! So wholesome!

Ethan Miller wait. So you mean luffy?

especially if that world is full of flying naked pollen girls (and boys) rather than giving allergic people sneezes or rashes... they fuck em

arsetothem you. Where. Source.

arsetothem tell me more

arsetothem sOuRCe PLeAsE

I watch hentai for the mind breaking

It's fucking pay to win tho.

Cascascap therefore super realistic.

The future Earth where Momonga lived before was ruled by megacorporations and the polution was so thick that people lived without knowing the colour of the sky. I don't think pay to win is below of these megacorporations if it's profitable.

A tragic timeline without Jim Sterling.

slothkingn1 Give it another arc.

Angel Egel I'd love to use nen, I just wouldn't get involved in any fights, just become a hunter learn nen and live comfortably.

same with one piece..

Really? I think the OP world would be great to live in. There's an area that rains syrup, not even kidding.

Pepito Bandito Would you take the hunter exam? O.o I wouldn't dare.

David Dalton Diabeetus

That was the good shit in my adolescence.

Oh how the times changed lol

You might want to hold out a while longer. I've watched it since the start and...it's a slog. The world building is interesting...but it conflicts with the plots the writers want to tell. It could turn into something good but it's a 1/3 over and outside of 02, the characters are distinct but stock and boring (Futoshi, the fat one, likes food...that is the entirety of his character)

It's a real fine show. Don't let this other guy discourage you, yeah the development of some of the characters has been rather lacking but they're getting there, and most of the primary cast has been very well established thus far. It's just part of the territory when you have a 10-man main cast. It's also gonna be 24 episodes, so there's plenty more room for this sorta thing.

n080dy123 yeah I agree. The show can afford to go at the pacing it's going because it has that two cour runtime. The world building so far has been admittedly slow but they've been spending a lot more time focusing on the main casts' lifestyle, world view, and relationships all while keeping up solid animation and some pretty dope fights. We're unraveling the mysteries of this world as the characters do as they've been fairly sheltered and not given a lot of information that they didn't specifically need to know to fulfill their role as child soldiers. I'd definitely give it a watch.

I would say, don't, the show is really slow, there is no plot, we're 8 episodes in and we know nothing about the world. The first episode is the only one you could say it's actually a good episode throughout, and it's not even that great.

Maxi Iroh We know a fair amount about the show and as Geoff stated the world building all makes sense in the context of the show especially considering the lack of overt expository scenes

The people that made the eng. Translation for the books sucked a little but the online translation was top tier

id say 90% of the viewers are the LN readers and the rest are people that didnt left during national geografic ark

I watched the entire first season and I have to completely disagree with it being underrated. Planetes is underrated. Overlord is just another edgelord power fantasy without the pretense of the protagonist being a hero.

I dont think the anime is doing a good job. I bet the LN is much much better

that first episode is real hard to get through, man. I *know* it gets better later but it still kept me from watching.

It really doesn't get better. It just kinda meanders around trying to be provocative and show off how overpowered the protagonist is, and then it ends.

That damn bear killed my waifu!

Mine was Ibuki Mioda :(

Mine is Tsumugi

yes he can, but can you pay? cough cough

That damn bear killed EVERYONE'S waifus :c

Yeah. It really had less populrity that it deserved.

Watch the new episode you will love it

Overlord Sux.

I paid attention to Overlord when only season one was out because people compared it favorably to Log Horizon, and the only reason I don't regret it is that now I know I won't like it. Momonga's basically just an edgelord's power fantasy.

I think the anime is not that great. It feels like its more for those people who already know the source material

Merlin Meurer ngl kinda glad that arc got over

That's actually due to the staff choosing to not make use of a narrator to communicate the pieces of info that were stated in the narration of the novels. Instead they made the decision to make awkward dialogues where the characters spout exposition even if it doesn't make logical sense for them to be talking about it like that. Off the top of my head, I can think of two examples: 1-the meeting of the lizardmen in episode 2 after receiving the message from the Wraith(they talk weirdly about the war they had in the past, as if they needed to explain it even though they all already knew about it for they all took part it in); and 2- The discussion between Lakyus(blue rose leader) and Gagaran(the muscle lady) in episode 6(I think) while they were watching the drug plantation burn(they talked to each other about lots of stuff about who their enemy was and why they were there, even though it made absolutely no sense for them to have that discussion at that time and place).

sancturillore And also that time they talked about him being a traveler.

Exactly, I loved 1st season, but 2s2e was such crappy exposition dump, I had to drop watching it mid episode for few months...

lkaseru I havent even gotten back to it since 2:2.

Mado Hifh MB hearted this comment but didn't give the source

We can see that lol.

It looks like Vision of Escaflowne. It's on Crunchyroll right now. I watched it as a kiddo and it was good! I was thinking of giving it a rewatch as an adult soon!

Mado Hifh The Vision of Escaflowne, from 1996, old but gold, recommended

It is Escaflowne. That is from the movie which I am not a fan of. Vision of Escaflowne ( the series) is on Funamation and Crunchy roll. Newly remaster in both english and japanese it is one of my favorite animes of all time. Dub is good and not the horrible one shown on fox in the late 90s. One of the best soundtracks of all time by Yoko Kanno ( cowboy bebop and macross plus and many more. Great watch, i have watched the series at least 5 times.

NeonRogue The parties must be wild.

fortutius Video I never been to a party. Well besides birthday parties and even so they were never wild. So I don't know what kind of parties you're going to.

NeonRogue I think it was supposed to be sarcastic in order to imply that you and your friends seems boring to him.

ghirahim le fabuleux Yeah I know; I'm just taking the piss out of his comment. I'm trying imply that he's a fuck boy, one of those bro douche bags at parties. I was trying to do a false naive sarcastic but that it seems that I have failed...

NeonRogue How I genuinely tought you didn't get the sarcasm, sorry then.

LIAR!!!

haha boy were you wrong

Alex thx man

Thank you :)

David Ferber It's very good, reminds me a lot of Haruki Murakami's novel Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World

Some fanfiction (AUs) do the opposite Take these premade characters and put them into a new world

It is in the first episode of S1. IT IS A TRAPPED IN A GAME WORLD

nesc505 it literally says in the first episode the world ains is in is not the world of the game he was playing.

It's a continuation of the world he is trapped in. It shows that he staying online till the servers are shut down and then he gets trapped in the same world since he can't log out. I don't know how else to see it as he is trapped in the game world

nesc505 he can't access game functions and stuff he normally could. He no longer has mana or health bars or a HUD. He senses all that stuff internally. The world is completely different and has things that weren't in the game. It's made very clear that after the serves shut down he is no longer in the game world he was in before. All his surroundings are different and he is unfamiliar with the kingdoms and their language. Also in the first episode of s2 some characters were talking about gods of the past that came from yggdrasil and taught their world a bunch of stuff. It's made apparent ains is no longer in the game yggdrasil and has been transported to an entirely different place.

Bigdaddy - He no longer has mana or health bars or a HUD. He senses all that stuff internally. That is also shown in the first episode of S1 after the servers are shut down. If he can see it internally means that he is still in the game. Edit - Seems like I was wrong about it being in Episode 1

Also potato

Also father

super sayan Maybe its supposed to be both?

Papa means pope in like, every European language (with a few minor differences ofc).

speedmetalmassiah567 The same for father to.

Time to pirate anime :D

i hope you will be successful in your work..

thank you, I realized what was wrong with my world building and I now have to edit all of it to get it to work but better to have done it now than later.

nathan henshaw i have a feeling your work will be big in tge future, and when that time comes pls let me read it for free. Lol

My good friend,hindsight is 20/20 isnt it?

How was it?

i didnt know that.. i know he has played DnD but him writing overlord because of his own experience is sad.

I got that vibe as well. It reminded me of the dragonlance books and how powerful Raistlin was for being able to cast 2nd and 3rd level spells, (windwall to stop a rain of arrows against an army, or fireball to burn down a village.) The spell tiering system in general really made me think of D&D 3.5s system with spell levels being 1-9 (ignoring the super spells overlord added etc.) and how limited humans are to casting within these limits. A normal mage gains a new level of spell every odd level up (1 at level 1, 2 at level 3, 3 at level 5 etc.) A talented mage can cast level 4-5s (level 7 and 9) and be considered peak capability. Anything higher than that is considered legendary. Looking at D&D 3.5, that's a character level gap of 1-6 and 7-10 for the elite. Just like 3.5s system, going above level 10 is considered legendary and sure enough, if you take the spell tiers into account, going above a 5th level spell is considered legendary and inhuman. Level 11 is when you'd obtain your first 6th level spell. Even taking into account fighter abilities. Killing an average ogre (HP 29 in 3.5) is considered a great feat by a very strong human. Crunching numbers, you can see a normal fighter with a greatsword at 18 str, weapon spec and a 2handed power attack can average above 29 in a single hit by level 9 (6+4+2+18=30) Peak capabilities but not quite legendary. I'm probably getting much more out of overlord that the average person because it's reminding me of D&D so much. Not to mention the solid character designs, ever evolving side characters and their grey morals or misguided beliefs. The latest storyline with Sebastian, Climb and Brian is great stuff!

As A One Piece fan I agree ... but Overlord has a unique way of world building which I really like (I'm a LN reader) . In One Piece We saw the world through Luffy and Luffy alone and One Piece World is unique and amazingly well written but in Overlord the small characters are used to tell the story ,We can see the plan or scheme of Ainz through the so called not important characters which I have found very interesting.

bro im a hardcore one piece fan but im not that bias... read overlord first and you compare.

more like getting stale,long time one piece fan but Im getting really tired of the show atm, just read the manga from time to time and I havent watched the anime in a long time,maybe you enjoy it but if this shit goes on for another 40 years yeah I give up, gonna die before he even gets that damn piece

omar faruk the anime is garbage, manga is god tier

yoshifan2334 no ep 20 did the worse

Ninten RIP, guess they pulled an infinite stratos or whatever that anime was called

Captain Marvelous Yes. Nothing more needs to be said

it's been running for 20 years and oda's been writing and editing this one story since he was 5. it damn well better be.

That's not how you spell Hunter x Hunter.

lmao

Captain Marvelous Naruto has much stronger world building, it has a clearly defined history and what is even rare for anime a clear geography