World Champ Reacts to "How Good was Charizard ACTUALLY 

already did B)

You should do Exadrill

imagine stealth rock damage range xD

already years ahead of ya

You should do this with one of their newer videos. I think the Charizard one was their first video.

thats the first thing I thought

hi kellen

What about the genies?

How good was your DAY actually

Holy moly I've watched your channel forever, it's part of what got me into playing competitive, which is a lot of fun. Thanks.

That’s cause BKC writes the scripts now (idk how long he’s been doing the scripts for FSG)

@@erikcarp9359 I think its also just more experience and better equipment like just compare episode 1 with the newest one its honestly really cool to see the evolution in my Opinion

@@erikcarp9359 BKC the GOAT

Yesss plz make another video reacting to his newer videos, they are amazing

Agree man

Yes

I was about to comment exactly this

Great job stealing comments

Smeargle next. The bane of VGC and Baton Pass alike.

@@jonas10t17 do you speak portuguese?

And there's even one where he gets mentioned directly for a set( I believe Vaporeon), and gets mentioned a ton just for being around so long

Yes,also the charizard one was veru short and I think his more recent videos have a better quality

He mentions wolf due to his placements with certain mons. Just like any other player who had a top placement

@@hello-yy8gt The Vaporeon one is special though. Wolfe actually has a video that talks about it already. Basically he claimed to use a Vaporeon with celebrate just to timer stall, (he didn't,) and FSG mentioned it, not realizing it was a joke.

@@JaneDoe-yy6hs I mean, there's also his time using Exeggutor being mentioned

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@@WolfeyVGC B)

@@WolfeyVGC please watch a few more of these, watching your opinion and your views on it is just incredibly interesting.

Could it have been 148 with a hidden .5 that rounds up for the whole point health count?

@@eatchas I think that's true cause in Pokemon showdown .5 damage matters

@@mikstarr2725 you aren't talking about percentage?

@@Gnolte you can also talk in percentage but what I meant is thatthe charizard had a odd number of hp. So when it came to stealth rocks two times, it had a hidden .5 health less. But since Pokemon doesn't show decimal numbers, every .5 number is rounded off to the bigger number. And when it came out again it fainted

@@mikstarr2725 oh I didn't know

Yeah, the production quality of the videos has improved so much.

@@OnlyNeedJuan yeah, it kinda took me by surprise

297 is a odd number it had too use that brain

Pokemon always rounds down tho

@PkMn Trainer Vayne I agree with Wolfey, that makes me physically sick (but then again stealth rock being allowed to play on weaknesses at all makes me sick).

@PkMn Trainer Vayne By saying that, you're the same type of comments as "well you see Wolfe 297/2 is 148.5". You're giving some explanation about the result while you don't see the huge problem with it. Pokemon always rounds down. That's what we learnt, that's why we have always EV in such a way, etc. And now People just drop comments like "the game visually rounds, but actually calculates with decimals" ; without precising in which generation this is a case, what is rounded or not (and how : is it a floating point or a fixed number of decimals), or even more crazy : why Showdown doesn't do that. It's like, one morning we realizes the sky is green. And you're saying "see, the color of sky depends of the gas is in the atmosphere, and because there is X gas in it, it looks green", thinking we should be happy with that explanation. You're not seeing the huge problem : if so, how and when did the gas of atmosphere change ?!?

@PkMn Trainer Vayne My reply was about "I think you didn't get the whole point of 147CT comment".

@PkMn Trainer Vayne All of our experimentation and datamining leads us to believe that Pokemon uses integer rounding in all cases. This is why, for example, you might give your Pokemon 159 HP instead of 160 HP; Sandstorm hurts you for 1/16 HP per turn, but 1/16 of 159 is 9.9375. The game truncates the decimal and you lose 9 HP, leaving you with 15 HP after 16 turns. If there were separate counters for HP display and HP storage (which, I should mention, is not unheard of in RPGs), you would lose 15 HP on the first turn and 16 on the remaining 15 turns. What we have found is that this is not the case-that HP display shares a counter with HP storage-and it is possible to take advantage of integer rounding to manipulate the way in which you receive damage/healing. This is why @LDA - Kennard compares it to waking up and seeing the sky is green. Even if there is a sensible explanation, the existence of the situation is already very anomalous. All the evidence points towards Charizard surviving two hits of Stealth Rocks, so if we're wrong that means there may be bigger problems to worry about. Is this case special? How did we not notice this? Is it unique to Gen 4, to D/P or Pt, does it happen in Battle Revolution? It carries all sorts of mechanical implications and could potentially undermine a lot of what we thought we knew about the game.

This! Hidden information is common

That's stupid still

Wtf why

@@thiccboi8225 this mechanism is stupid. You can't expect the player to know such a trickery. There should be a mandatory rules for this. Like always pick the number below or above the 0.5 to let the player know for sure what's going on.

Since when did Pokémon ever have half HP? I’m pretty sure this isn’t true?

Dammit man now I can't unsee it

Everything he says in the video is part of the title, the quote is not finished yet

The confusion isn't because people don't understand basic math rounding, it's because people know how damage works in this game. In Pokemon games, the final damage calculation uses truncated integer division, it always has. The game isn't supposed to have a hidden 0.5 damage that's not showing. Each time damage is calculated it uses a 4 step damage calculation based on stats, move power, rng, multipliers etc. and the damage done in most cases would be irrational decimals. To compensate, the game always rounds down to the nearest whole integer. So once the damage is done, what you see is supposed to be the damage that is done it doesn't keep hidden decimals or percentages, that's why people are questioning it.

No Pokémon always rounds down idk what was going on there

@@Alexcoman51 that is true but I think what the devs did was making two separate life systems that affect each other. While the player sees a non-decimal life bar, the game "sees" the actual calculation on what the move did.

@@nicolala7132 I agree with this, idk if it has changed now but this is probably the most logical solution I could think of

@@nicolala7132 I’m pretty sure all Pokémon calculations are from rounded down integers. The game tosses out anything after the decimal and things like rocks leftovers or sand damage is always the same amount.

Gen 4 just works

This is helpful information. Seems they changed the way it works a few times. Thanks

It's not that it was inconsistent it does (and always has) done exactly 50% of total hp to a flying fire typing which in this case was 148.5 hp. The game keeps the .5 hp in mind and then uses it to do 148.5 again which in game is 149 since we don't see the decimals

When gen 8: *give me the tims*

Charizard is now wearing those heavy timberland boots

NOT THE TIMS

Now I have to check that out

Which youtubist

@@thewetmop1546 wolfe ofcourse lol

:O

As i remember Charizard sucked pre gen 6 it was outclassed by arcanine and moltres in the first gens and in gen 4 infernape and heatran appeared which were top tier OU It became a little bit better in gen 5 but there is darmanitan chandelure and volcarona too And in gen 6 with megas it became a beast As for regular charizard it is completely outclassed by talonflame and became the least used fire starter being publ As for moltres it was OU/UU since it's introduction

@@laxusstrauss5945 zard was very good in adv ou. he didnt even need belly drum to kick ass that time

Charizard may be UUBL in Advance (Gen 3) but it has legitimate use. Unlike Moltres which is a good mon, Charizard isnt threaten by Tyranitar or Blissey which are top mons thanks to Focus Punch. Also, a Blaze boosted Fire Blast hits hard. Finally it has the rather inconsistent but fun Belly drum set, with alongside its high special attack + blaze boost can win battles easily. Arcanite was also UUBL, but is an bad mon in OU. Overall charizard is a good mon in ADV OU if you know how to play around its flaws. I wont discuss about other gens since I dont know them

I've thoroughly enjoyed the pre-evolution solo runs he's done, where he attempts to make every one a minimum battles run. He actually made me wanna get back into gen 1 with those.

Say it with me: "badge boost glitch".

Why

@@WolfeyVGC takes half hp when switches in on them haha

It likes Metal though

@Gabriel Mota that explains why charizard melts boulders.

its almost as irrelevant as pikachu

Yeah I’ve never heard of it either,must be a new Pokémon,I think it would be a really good resist for rocks tho.

It and Greninja Are the most unpopular Pokémon in existence

@@eclipseok1217 stealth rock? never heard of it

The most irrelevant Mon has to be Garchomp.

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The game cant deal half damage. Pokemon nearly always round down and only in rare cases up, like SR