World of Tanks - Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Panther. Part 2 

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Irak?

@Michael Steinhoff Iraq

@Michael Steinhoff In Sumerian, the word could mean "city, town, village, district". By the final phase of the Uruk period around 3100 BCE, the city may have had 40,000 residents, with 80,000-90,000 people living in its environs, making it the largest urban area in the world at the time.

As I understand that was the purpose of the system.

Nemesor Warpbiter He says that he thinks that the system was over-engineered and unnecessary. Trying to imagine myself as the gunner, being able to quickly glance at a dial to match my commanders orders would streamline the aiming process quite a bit, but having never been inside the panther I cant say.

It just seems un-necessary. It is very easy to tell which way the turret is facing by simply looking down at your feet. I never felt the need for one as a TC.

TheChieftainWoT Perhaps it has something to do with the thing you mentioned in part one of the Panther tour about morale. If the German crews see all these gadgets they might get the impression that the tank is more advanced that it was. I was actually quite impressed when you demonstrated it and I imagine the crews would feel similarly. It must have been unsettling to see how crude a t-34 was, though I don't know if Russian crews would have anything other than stories to compare it to. Though feel that if the Germans really wanted such a system they could have gotten a similar effect from just giving a compass to both the commander and gunner. (though I remain unsure as to the accuracy of a magnetic compass inside a thick ferrous steel box)

that might be true for modern tanks such as the m1 abrams because the gunner has a way better fov in his tank but given the the fact that the panther sight has a much more narrow fov it might be useful for him to be guided straight on the target (sorry for my bad english) a bit like the hunter killer sight on modern tanks (again sorry for my bad english) and yeah i might be wrong though ( i love tanks)

I still don't understand why they didn't just install a commander's turret override. (a turret rotation lever for the commander to use to get the turret on target for the gunner).

Tank commanders in the field were probably more adept and quicker in opening the hatch, owing to adrenaline rushing and familiarity.

OMG, destroying a Panther with his bare hands... :-D

Maratus volans It is. I wonder if it was a joke or if someone had actually screwed up somewhere.

Yea I saw that. Just a bit confused about it

That was definitely the driver's vision port. That would be a helluva thing if the gunner can adjust his own sight and that of the driver's with the flip of a lever. 🤔

@@ewaeesmachines693 methinks the Chieftan was trying to test us.

German TC: "We dont drive into Towns! Calling stukas, infantry and brummbaers"

@@NutztierMetzgerAusLeidenschaft Until the entire luftwaffe gets annihilated and the brummbars don't even have enough fuel to move... also capturing towns is key to having a foothold, so I doubt the Germans would bomb some random Russian village that probably had food and supplies in it.

@@RainytheNB okay, time for calling 2 Divisons werewolfs of the SS, 1 regiment trained velociraptors and 2 companies elite battlebunnies. They need no fuel, only red army flesh.

Jack Cordell r/wooosh. you must be fun at parties.

@@RainytheNB Solution ; Rudel with his Kanonenvogel . :-)

lol, ill do the same now

saaaame

Pershing06 I wouldn't touch that sh*t if you paid me. Pringles, I mean.

@@joydiv0 Omg Hi neutral country since ww1

Sorry.

Yes. The so called "scissorscope".

That's precisely how I would use the ring. I don't think this was a case of "overengineering."

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Possibly. We'll see how we do.

+TheChieftainWoT you deserve it since tha Challenger took the Tiger 1 and the Jagdtiger (Also the sturmtiger now that i think about it)

although, +TheChieftainWoT's videos are way better (imo), than the challenger's ones. especially in the way the tanks are presented and duration of the videos.

With the classic Henschel turret, not the ugly (to my mind)and inferior limited production Porsche one

I don't agree..I think it's perfectly ajusted

This one wasn't bad, some are horrible

I'm watching with a HTPC and a 2.0 home stereo set, and it seems fine for me.

No

Aka make captions

The Chieftain has several times made the point that survival stats were much better for American tankers than infantrymen.

That’s really cool. This tank along with an IS-2 are in a museum near my house. I was never a fan of the look of Soviet tanks but seeing that IS-2 in person totally changed my mind. IS-2 is now one of my favorites, both of them are really incredible in person

No, he said: "Put in all the Stuff! :D"

@@heiniknallkopp9688 all ZEE stuf, all ZEE STUF

@@heiniknallkopp9688 I think that you should refrain from trying to "fix" good jokes.

@@bankerduck4925 And you should refrain from replying to one year old comments.

Yes, and shouldn't be as long a wait.

+TheChieftainWoT Will you guys do a king tiger episode?

^ This

+Schutzstafell what you mean?

TheChieftainWoT Great, I can't wait :)

VK.30.01D, or 02

They look they've been completely overhauled. Not particularly great from a historical standpoint.

MrTDB123 I’ve seen a panther and even I think it’s cramped, I’m 5’3

Max Ace were u actually in it? I’ve heard the panther and the t-34 were the worst as far as getting the hell out. Surprisingly the Sherman could be done fairly quickly.

MrTDB123 I’ve heard a lot of good about the Sherman’s crew friendliness, but the issue with the panther turret is side to side space

MrTDB123 I just get really annoyed by wheraboos

Max Ace no I totally understand. Thx for the comment.

I know I can't take it I have an obsession with this tank.

Yes! Muahahahahahaha!!!!

TheChieftainWoT Hurry up senpai please.

Correct, I saw that vid also☺

It's three. Two hits probably the engine compartments, second hit against the ammo Racks.

As long as my commander wasn't dead,and had got out,I was quick to exit the Chieftain gunner seat.Otherwise I,d have to burrow through him or be toast

Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way, as there is no applicable scale relative to the periscope. It still requires guesstimation. At which point, you may as well just yell "Go to 10 O' Clock" or some such.

Post filming editing failure I suspect. I noticed that too.

Editing mistake (I k this comment is 3 y/o lol)

It also happened similarly during the Battle of the Bulge. A High-ranking Tank Commander of a Sturmgeschutz was killed by an American Sniper for buttoning up.

There's only one KV-2 left, in the Central Armed Forces museum in Moscow. I suspect it's not in great condition. Side armor is about 4cm, so pretty much anything should be able to punch through it.

He served in the US army. Emigrated from Ireland.

People tend to think that German = good always in respect to tanks. However yes the Panther wasn't that good in turret ergonomics mostly because of the not so big turret ring and the great size of the KwK 42 gun.

have you ever seen the inside of for example a Hetzer or KV, yes the Panther turret was probably not the best, but there are tanks with far worse ergonomics ;-)

There are bad things, and then there are awful ones xD I wouldn't say KV-1 was bad though, bigger turret and same gun as T-34.

yes you are right, the KV turret had a decent size, but no cage for the Crewmen so they had to stand on the ground and move when the turret was rotating (not to mention all the instalations and shells on the ground which they had to step over and be aware of them)

Most tanks didn't have turret basket: M26, Centurions, ISs, Cromwell, Comet, Panzer III, etc. but you don't hear those tanks were bad because no turret basket though, this is only mentioned with T-34 and KV-1... However sometimes the loader had it's seat attached to the turret side so they could sit in there while the gun was moving and be a bit more confortable like in the T-34/85

can't...the thing is rusted shut and I personally wouldn't want to go inside of it because of the wildlife that may or may not call it home...

***** what about the T95 then?

+Ivan GR they did refurbish the interior somewhat but it's closed unfortunately...

***** What do you mean its closed? They wielded the hatches? Cause i think that the chieftain can get permission to film inside it. Just look how many tanks have already filmed.

+Ivan GR it's currently undergoing extreme restoration...so essentially it's "closed"...but a video series covering this would be nice...

Kim Janek not all t34 had the same armor thickness. it varied to each factory zone where they came from. Remember Russian vehicles did not have complete uniform standards of manufacturing. talk to the old tank crews and factory workers about it. was a interesting conversions. Not only that but some parts would not fit to replace later models from different tank factories.

Kim Janek Churchill had a different amour design with better alloys and heated to higher quality standard than the t34. Churchill were know to survive shots from the panther and tiger 1 E . Remember the Churchill was also design to give the crew a better chance to survive than earlier British tanks that why British tank crews like that tank. It also was design to be upgunned and engine upgraded when it could.

The M4 used an independent electric motor driven hydraulic drive to rotate the turret. It ran off batteries so could spin the turret fast when the tank was stopped with the engine idling. The Panther used a PTO (power take-off) from the transmission to a gear box drive for the turret. The Panther's turret's rotation speed was limited by the engine's RPM's. It rotated real slow when the engine was idling so the engine RPM's were raised to make it turn faster. The inexperienced Panther TC's soon learned not to use higher RPM's for turret transverse since that consumed their load of fuel faster. US tankers often reported seeing Panther crews abandoning their tank during a fight after none of them got a good hit on it. On inspection they said it was due to running out of gas, which was a fairly common problem the big German tanks had by receiving a partial load of fuel for the day due to their fuel shortage. That limited their run time in combat for a hour or two before their fuel tanks were empty.