World of Warships- German Battleship Guide 

Hey guys, Shotcut messed up with the intro music, it isn't supposed to be that loud, I apologize Corrections: 1)105s can only pen 26mm (I still believe IFHE shouldn't be equipped because it reduces the fire chance too much) 2) PM doesn't apply to secondaries, this was apparently changed a while ago but I missed the memo (I would still take it for the main battery)

When you think about it, the Gneissenau is like having an 11 turret torpedo cruiser partner right next to you 24/7. Edit: on both sides!

After playing the entire line of german bbs I have found that go survivability as secondaries don't do dmg and you will be so happy to hit targets with your main battery.

'Hello good people of youtube' where's the 'mountbatten here'? who r u and what have u done to mountbatten jk

Great video. On the Odin I go full fire 🔥 prevention- accuracy build and it seems to work effectively in all scenarios

One at a time ladies

Im on the tier 5 german bb so this helps alot

Could you do like an updated review of the different lines again? I just found your channel and enjoy them.

Thanks for the video. I used to play my German BB's almost exclusively a couple of years ago. They were a ton of fun. Then the Worcester was introduced, and well the age of the machine gun cruiser and destroyer came into fruition of being the meta of the game. True secondary build ships as was once common, are completely situational in the current meta. By situational, I mean: survivable if your flank is not going up against a machine gun HE spammer, or if there is, that individual is either drunk, high, stupid, or a complete and utter potato. I've found myself forced to go a more of a modified zombie build in the current meta. I would love to see some additional changes to the game to make pure secondary builds more viable other than ships set up as meme builds or that occasional just for old times sake conditions. You said it correctly with your comment, hold your fire at the beginning of the game unless you have a shot that is just too juicy. If you're spotted and in range of an HE Spammer... you will be nothing more than an HP pinata for the reds until such time as you're either burned to the keel or no longer combat effective to the point where if a sea gull craps on your deck, it's game over. I think that WeeGee did right with their decisions to buff the German BB dispersion ellipse, and the changes to IFHE. However, I still think that HE and fire as a whole are broken mechanics in the game. I'd rather play in a game with double CV's than the current heaping helping of Smolensks, Colberts, Worcesters, Harugumos, and whatever the next ridiculously over powered soviet ship they find sketched on a balled up napkin in Stalin's smoking jacket pocket. Again, thanks for the video... subscribed and looking forward to more content.

I think there is a problem with selecting manual secondaries: I just had a game in Bismark where I entered a knife fight ) Litterally 10 meters away at max with an enemy Bismark. my secondaries did something like 2900 dmg in 30 seconds of fight because the stupid manual scondaries were trying to hit the centre of the enemy ship, AKA the main belt!!! I'm tempted to drop it for fire prevention because my ships really don't do much with secondaries per game: max 10K which is irrelevant for such a focussed and crippling captain setting

Love my German BB line! Lots of fun playing them.

You're wrong about Bismarck and FDG secondaries. Their 105mm guns can't pen 32mm armor but their 150mm guns can. IFHE is needed for those 105s to pen 32mm.

On my Bismarck, I go for another captain build to improve general survivability. Fire Prevention(Didn't do any fancy math if the added survivability gives me more impact than EM and BFT, but greatly increases the fun while playing Bismarck), Priority Target(Like to have that Info - enough DDs that give away when they Torp by targetting you with guns before&after) and Expert Loader(Spare point, IMHO more useful than PM) in, Preventive Maintenance (never seen my secondaries dropping significantly), Expert Marksman and BFT out (Of course, these skills would be a benefit. However, I find AR and SI superior). With modules, I also skipped secondary survivability for main gun survivability. Because again: Loss of main battery guns is in my experience more common and despite a secondary built your main source of damage.

This is really good for me. I mostly play German BB's. I pretty much brawl in anything. Probably why I can't play DD's worth a damn. I think that I'm going to have to rebuild a few ships, lol.

I like German Battleships. My Build include Adrenaline Rush, BFT, AFT, Manual Secondaries and CE. I am hoping for more German Battleships. When WG split the German BB Line and release a Battlecruiser Line. Those Ships could also fight a British Battlecruiser Line Ingame.

You said that all of the secondarys from Bismarck can pen 32mm without IHFE, but if I remember correctly, the 105s can "only" pen 25 or 26mm, so there "could" be a point for IFHE (if you don´t like fires^^)

Any tips for my konig?

I think all old BB Lines suffer in some Games with the current Meta but the German Line is the most forgiving one. I like them, the secondaries and the turtleback make the difference in late game if you get closer. Nice vid m8, greetings from Germany

Its ok i like a hybrid build better 9.7km secondary and a accuracy build for them. Gk is the only one i build for full secoundarys but the others not really. Love fdg 245m dispersment is a monster with 420 guns great for citing every thing and i get more utility out of it if im unable to push which is 90% of games

you should use FP too

14:45 HANZ, ACTIVATE ZE TURBO!

do one for mackenson specifically an andrea doria

Your commentary is pretty quiet, but the Intromusic ist very loud. Just a little critism :)

For me the German BBs have been huge ups and downs. Either I had terrible games (most of the time) or great games with lots of fun. Sadly the terrible games are a huge motivation killer when you jump in a game with your GK and get HE spammed/torped/CVed to death and only do 30k dmg cause your guns just go all over the place, even with the accuracy buff. German ships can be fun but thanks to Wargaming they are often an utter frustration to play

Can you do a American light Cruiser guide?

how tf are you doing so much damage, like ill land the same amount of shots and its 1.5k each

1 thing all German BB need it improved secondary accuracy. I mean come on boh main gun and secondary inaccurate? makes no sense

grinding the german bb line rn almost gettibg the gneisenau

German BB not dying , they re already dead . Just Wargaming is kicking a dead horse . Same applies for their games.

Why are you not brawling! You're telling us to build for brawling?

How to play German BBs? Answer: You don't. Play something that is actually useful.

The (comparatively) extreme loud noises at the 1:55 mark scared me greatly.

I know I tried IFHE when grinding the FdG and the damage output of my secondaries increased massively. In some battles I'd get like 80k-90k damage with secondaries alone. Then I spent commander XP to respec my captain and I am lucky when I achieve 20k with secondaries. As for not taking early shots or picking concealment....there is just one problem with that: Carriers. Not only they will spot you early in the game but will also keep you lit forever. Carriers erase any attempt of positioning and trying to be stealthy in the game. It completely dumbs down the game. German BB can be fun, but the trade off for your "useful" secondaries are not worth it. Having awful accuracy and too many overpens for a gimmick that requires you a 19 points captain and forget about survivability is just not worth it. German secondaries should have Manual Fire dispersion by default to make them semi viable.

To quote Count Dooku: "I've been looking forward to this" I've started german BBs a couple of weeks ago so this video is right on time

In Wows legends they are just useless. They are armed for close Range but since all other ships are better in Long range you can‘t do anything because your whole Team will snipe in the background while you take all the damage

HE spam is a 'thing' only because of the asinine spotting that is in the game. Hiding behind an island or in smoke because some other ship or plane can do the spotting allows the HE spammer to reign supreme. Ships spotted by another source should only show up on the mini map. This would cut down on the HE spam accuracy and the the complaint about spotting planes and CV's ruining game. If an HE spammer wants the accuracy then let them show their cowardly ass. The spotting in this game can't even be done with today's technology. The WW2 Bridge crew doesn't look out of the Bridge to see an enemy just because another friendly actually sees it. They get radio messages to plot on a chart table, not computer generated virtual reality images put on Bridge view ports to see out of the smoke or though the island as if they see target themselves. In this, the spotter gets to relay every ship, their courses, speeds, actions in real time. That's a real busy radio operator. Fix the spotting and HE spamming will go down and CV"s and their planes won't be so vilified.

Hope you're gonna apply to be a super tester now they are taking some new ones on. You put a lot into the game, buying new ships to review for us and your 1st etc immpressions series is great. It'd be nice if WG rewarded you... Imo you deserve it.

For ez citadels just play this in background Preußens Gloria (Volvi's Bounce Remix)

I run a hybrid secondaries/survivability build on my GK. PM, EL, AR, SI, AFT, FP, MSC. Full secondaries modules. My avg damage and survivability rate goes way up since I changed to this build from full secondaries build. Just did a 320k match yesterday with 130k dmg in secondaries and 75k damage in fire. GK is my most played ship beside the Republique. Never enjoy playing Kremlin

german bb has such a bad concealment it's more like an announcement than concealment

I think the preventive maintenance skill doesn't apply to secondaries. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you for your valuable advice. Man oh man did I need it. I had a Bismark 2 years ago and now with my new account, I really struggle with bayern, specially because of it's slow turret rotation.

That opening Bismarck run tells all you need to know about german BBs: you went in as intended, received 20k dmg and did a staggering 1.600 dmg in return. You had to spend a repair, turn away burning and dodge a full torpedo spread. The engagement ends with 32k health lost despite a repair, having dealt a total of 2.300 dmg in 5 hits. With those shitty guns, the retarded dispersion and endless HE spam, why would anyone bother with german BBs in the current meta?

I just recently unlocked the GK about a week ago now and I have loved the German BB line. Yeah, it is not in the meta at all (especially if you run full secondary builds like I do), but it is a LOT of fun. I think some people don't expect most GK players to still run secondary builds and have switched to tank builds. I've had a few surprised comments in games when my secondaries open up at 11.6 km and start chipping damage at other BBs and setting fires. Also, with 12 guns, the GK isn't the most accurate ship in the world, but it is nowhere as bad as it used to be. It's a very fun line (especially now that the FDG had been buffed as well with dispersion like the GK) and is not a terrible thing to grind if you are interested in secondary ships. Fuck the meta, I love the secondaries and have had great success with them.

Nice guide but I heavily disagree with not taking fireprevention. Sorry to say but AFT is not worth not going for fire prevention, especially with that huuuuge ship and that meta right now. Every Smolly, DesMo, CV etc. will burn you complete before you are going be in 11.3km range. Less firechance, less fires possible etc. is worth those 1km secondary range.

Great guide :) still the German BBs suffer heavily from the current meta. Worst part is having a completely passive team that will under no circumstances take advantage of breakthroughs or numerical superiority. There isn't much you can do except accept a mediocre result. Doing 100k bowtanking at 30km is nice and all but losing the match because you we're essentially behind the red line and didn't cap, not so much. Long story short: good video, german BBs fun but not meta

I disagree with the IFHE, if you're going to get the secondary reload module, all it's going to do is reload your guns faster just to shatter. I'd rather have my shells pen then have a 2.5% more fire chance, the fire chance isn't worth it imo. If you like brawling, you bow tank each other for a bit and if you have IFHE, it shreds their bow and that's what i like about it.

3 Things they could do to actually keep them up to date. 1. Shell fuses that are consistent and efficient. 2. Main gain accuracy improvement. 3. Armour that isn't completely useless at ranges over about 12km. Brawler Design - Great you have radar, invisible stealth ships and now subs, so getting too effective range becomes ridiculous. It's been this way for a long time, when you have a secondary build you must use your secondaries to even have a remote chance of doing great damage, otherwise you are wasting your time. Too that end any thing less than 100 secondary hits a game is a waste, good luck getting those numbers. Just to prove my self right, I'll jump in my Alabama, which is hilariously specialized for anti air. In one game without much thought I did over 80k damage, because the guns hit, because they pen and explode. - This was a tier 8 maybe with some tier 9's Match. I've been plying on and off since just before the german bb's got announced. I have tier 10 German BB's, British BB's, I can technically research the North Carolina (don't care for US tree, since I have the Alabama, tier 10 German cruisers, British Cruisers, tier 7 British DD's tier 8 Euro DD's. and a mix match of other things. - Point is, i have experience with the game.

Hello Mountbatten, I’ve been having problems with success on the tirpitz, I just can’t get those big damage number games... I would consider myself quite well versed on “orthodox” battleships, I’ve progressed through IJN and USS bb lines.

Another hint would be to divide the firepower if necessary. Let the secondaries chew up a ship bow tanking, while using the main guns to shoot at targets showing more broadside. It also applies for opponent cruiser. The German secondaries can deal with a cruiser on their own, while the main guns may only produce overpens. So they are better suited to deal with BB's meanwhile. At the end it depends on the circumstances and the players flexibility.

Additional tip for Tirpitz and Gneisenau: Don't bet on your torp (launchers) they are made out of paper. Also, as far as I know the smaller guns on GK actually have better pen at less than 12km.

Love to see you shittalking in german when you take out enemy ships^^ Next time do it right: "Hallllloooo, guten Tag!" / " Auf Wiedersehen!" / "Tschüssikowski!"

It is a bit late but alot has changed, so what should i do as a gk now in a game? With the huge detectability range and short main battery firing range it is hard to not be spotted, long range i eat alot of pens and my accuracy sucks. So i have to wait to push until the enemy destroyer is dead but having potato dds in at least 50% of the games where they are either afk, travel to the corner of the map to get behind enemy lines, or smoking in next to our battleships without spotting the enemy dd survives normally until i am burned to the ground by conqueror, thunderer or light cruisers like smolensk or torped from behind by enemy dds. Should the enemy dd die thx to a miracle i still have to face enemy bbs camping at 25km distance with cruisers with torps halfway there... I feel like the chance to really use your secondaries nowadays is very situational

Everything else on t 1 to t 5 I did good at German bbs up till t6 I fucking sucked at except the bayren

Captain Skill Preventive Maintenance does not improve the survivability of secondaries or AA. wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Commander#Preventive_Maintenance

This video clip of BBs you played at 1:56min to 2:29min was so much better than the dumb intro you have now that just has BBs sitting there doing nothing. You should play this video as your intro instead.

The Guns of the Bismarck are literally the worst. Even at close range, penetrating hits that deal no damage, idiotic dispersion from even less than 10km and citadel hits are rare. Since the German gun buff the F der Großße is much better even with the worse firing angles than Bismarck. I have very good games with it and I love that thing. And they also should do something about the overpen mania with Battleships, sometimes it can be absolutely ridiculous.

The one thing I’ve learned about managing German dispersion is that if your secondaries cannot fire at it, aim for the main broadside. Only entertain the idea of going for the waterline when you are at least within secondary range

Excellent summary M'Lord. Thank you for all you do for students of WOWs.

Bullshit missed all rounds at 2klms away Rsg killed me off 99% of time

Great video of a great bunch of ships! Just wanted to comment on secondaries and IFHE. I believe the 105mm secondaries that Tirpits,Bismarck and Freidrich have pen 26 mm without IFHE. The glorious Kurfürst gets 128mm secondaries instead, bumping up the pen to 32mm. But all of the 150mm secondaries on all of these ships will pen more than 32mm. Godspeed you magnificent brawlers.

Im fucking hating my Bismarck. Accuracy is terrible.

gets a devastating.. SUCKS AT LONG RANGE!

OH sweet memories when brawling was meta and Bismark was king.

"Hood ... the prophecy ... must be fullfilled"

WHy concealment module? You want to close with your enemy if you helm a German BB because the long range fight is not your thing. Once inside secondary range, you will be visible forever.

I should have watched this before i sunk...

Imho from T7 onward taking Expert Marksman is a mistake on several German BBs: - Gneisenau has 36s 180° traverse, which is excellent (only high tier Soviet BBs have quicker turrets) - Bismarck, same - FdG, same as long as she takes Secondary Armament Mod 3, as you recommend - GK has slower turrets, so again EM becomes useful, but only here. If you don't take the skill, you can put one point on Priority Target and one on Fire Prevention or Concealment, instead of Basics of Survivability, which is kind of pointless if you have both Damage Control Mod 2 and equip the Dreadnought and/or Fireproof signals.

IMHO if u are grinding the line its not worth it to go full Secondaries, right now i'm at FDG (406mm) and i have PT, AR, SI, FP, MS and AFT, with Rudder and reload module, and i'm loving her, as long as u dont suicide and learn how/when to push she's great, u can swing the booty to shoot all guns and PT helps to dodge Torps when Hydro is on cooldown. Now, if u just wanna have fun then go full secondaries and do that, i do that on Tirpitz and PEF (even if i dont play them that much nowadays)

Modern World of Warships makes me feel old. as a CBT vet.

To be honest, German BBs are more effective when playing with survivability/stealth builds. The secondary build is much more fun, it's true, but any serious mistake - and you go down, or lose too much HP to be effective in later game. WoWs now has a serious "crisis of attack" - it is too dangerous and unprofitable to push, to lead the charge. Until this is fixed - secondary guns builds are only effective against stupid people. Any skilled player just won't go into secondary range, he will simply kite and HE spam you to death.

I can do without the ear rape at 2mins…

Tbh, if you want a non-premium ship line that plays aggressively, play Russian battleships. Unlike German BBs, who are meant to be played offensively on paper, Russian BBs actually get all the required tools to do so: very good concealment, their unique damage con, excellent armor protection and scheme, working main battery guns with a lot of bonuses to shell performance, good rudders and an innate resistance to fire.

Use big guns for Yamato gun sound

Wishing team mates would push with me

That is the most confusing thumbnail

I'm just stuck on the Freddy. The few games I have played in this thing is comparable to the French BB Lyon, but at tier 9. The Bismark was great for its class and can play well when up tiered, but the Freddy is just a pain to play. Any tips?

In the current meta of the game, one has to wonder what even is the point of playing German BBs anymore? Even if you have a team that's willing to push with you that's only good enough if they're able to hit or focus on anything. Plus WG keep coming out with HE spam cruisers and the Soviet ships that can tank better than the Germans and better guns... what even is the point... I feel like the GK has been power crept or at least that's what it feels like whenever I play the GK...

Aye fur Kaiser!

Intro music: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LzxYVoacXgg.html

Have them all and do not play them any more. Soviet BBs have turned the German's into girly men.

What was that ear rape at 2 mins for?

Just changed to this build on the test server so slightly different with the new commanders skills, but wow wow wow what a diffrerence as i like brawling, wish \I had found you and this sooner

7:58 Would hydro mod 1 work as well there?

Another great video, Thanks.

Its still hardwork, when your teammates are total fresh potato that rush up to tier10 without even a slght idea what the ships capable of, thx to tons off freebies wg gave.

sth is wrong with your sound hu?

Screw that carrier for stealing Bismarcks Hood kill

Where are those submarines ?

Thank you! I've played this over 3 years ago but I got bored of it but I switched to console when it came out a couple years ago. Now I've started playing and in my opinion, german battleships have better dispersion here than on console lol.

I miss hearing about the Tirpitz always when u say something about Bismarck. That’s sad that her sister gets just lost :(

yuro said fdg and gk is play sniper what should I choose

EEEEEEEEEEEEEErika

13:42 nice sync WG

So what do you take first, adrenaline rush or MLG turrets?

hay man the tier 5 germ bb is fun and i use it more then any of them is the fights are fun

Hello there, thanks for the content. Does it worth it to buy the gold and coal commander for German BBs?

I just got my gk just now while watching this 😁😁😁☠️☠️☠️

For slot 6 you mean Aux Mod 2, right? I kind of like the Legendary for GK myself.

Probably the best guide for the German battleship line.