World of Warships - If It's Stupid But It Works... 

Honestly this could be a real good idea for a series take peoples sub par perfomance replays and give tips and tell them what they are doing wrong as long as people on comments arent complete assholes i would like to see more content like this

Jingles! Turn this into a series!!! “If it’s stupid but it works....”

Seems like a large portion of the members of the enemy team as well as Janissary left their situational awareness in their back pocket

I like this. As a casual player I often don't know when I am making these kinds of mistakes, which I often make in the heat of the moment. All I do know is that suddenly, I'm dead and I don't know why. If I think about it at all, I realize later how I goofed up, but usually don't understand the principle behind why it was a goof up, beyond that single situation. Knowing how to spot errors and WHY those things are errors will hopefully make me a better player and a batter teammate. Please have more of these, and please consider making it a series.

"The Mighty Jingles masterclass" is one of the few moments of joy in the saltmines

This is the norm now for WoWs, I get the feeling that he was chasing a mission

Take this as advice/friendly criticism from someone who has a lot of time in the IJN torpboats: This was more a case of being lucky that a broke clock is usually right twice a day. To start, your one of 4 T8s in a T10 game, and the CV is T8. So that CV has 3 targets. Had they been good or T10, or even worse, both, your coarse of action would be bend over, grab your ankles, and kiss your aft goodby. At the same time, very good calls where made on dealing with the CV at the end. Guns to kill them, torps to ensure they die, and if all else fails, some chrome paint for the bow and a witness. I know DDs yoloing into the cap in the fist 5 minutes and getting killed is a meme, but you have islands to poke the cap from and a DM to provide covering fire. Granted there are T8 CVs in play, so the AA support is going to be strong and effective (insert Jingles nod), err completely useless, don't go offering support them pop off for a spot of tea. Your target selection. If you can get a DD to around 20%, you have effective mission killed them. WIth CVs, mission kills happen around 14/15k, so about 60 to 80%. Splash some damage on the DD, they get spotted again and eat some more, they get blaped by the CV. But you need that damage on the red DDs, the sooner the better.For BBs, don't trickle damage into them. Hit them with everything you have or don't hit time at all. Countless times someone will leave a BB on sub 2k HP 6 minutes into the match. 6 minutes later they are back with a fresh ship. Also weapon selection: by T8, you need to know your weapons. In the 10 seconds you spend faffing about with weapon selection, I can duck around from behind an island, pop off a set of fish, torpedo beats for anything you might get off and your back in port while I might need a bit of fresh paint. The difference between a 49%/good player and a great player is the great player is going to have played out the engagement 30 seconds beforehand a just have to execute it. Mostly looking at the Thunderer engagement, it lasted about 20 seconds longer than it should have. You need to know torpedo angles. Not sure if they where about to reprint the ship, but even bow on torps will finish them at that low HP. Option 1 (torps) need to be on there way while you are working them over with option 2 (guns).

13:37 This is some really good advice. The first thing about fixing your mistakes is realising that they're mistakes in the first place.

Couple of tips to add: Spread your smoke around a bit more and move around in it taking care to line the ship up in a good direction to bug out and Dodge torps. Smoke screens are torp magnets. If you press and hold right mouse button you go into "free look". The guns stay aimed at what you were looking at and you can look around. If you're locked onto and aimed you can even keep firing the guns and unless the target changes course and/or speed, keep landing hits. When you release the button you go right back to the pov you had even if you were zoomed in at the time. You can also use free look to get guns pre-aimed so if you need all guns aimed over port side but looking to turn to strbd, look left, press and hold right mouse and the turrets will turn where you need them while you worry about looking where you're going. It reduces the time spent waiting for turrets and launchers to swing round onto target when you actually need them.

This is so painful to watch. -smoking up outside of range of any enemy ship when you have an island to hide behind -torping a destroyed moskva and an almost dead yamato -torping when behind a friendly georgia -torping ships that will be maneouvering to avoid torps so there's no chance they'll hit. - trying to torp a thunderer who you could kill in 5 seconds with your guns Why can't I get enemies like this when I play? And yet he still does 10,000 more damage than I've ever gotten.

This was somewhat painful to watch

This is something I was waiting for ages ago. A replay commentary where the moments has been spotted out, what could have done better. I'd love to see more like this! Thank you!

My friends: Why do you watch a guy who repeats his title 500 times? Its idiotic Me: If its stupid but it works...

Hmm, pretty sure i've seen this title before.. Err jingles, what's that shotgun is for?

jingles, since you have so many of these videos with the EXACT same title, you may as well make it a series

Thats just "I want to farm dmg instead of doing usefull things." behaviour.

one reason for leaving the DD alive might be the common "must.do.more.damage. Mantra" i see lots of players not wasting their time killing a 5k health ship when they can annoy a 60k health ship for 30k damage instead.

Two nitpicks: 1. He didn't tell the Des Moines he'd support 2. He always sat stationary in a smoke screen he didn't stretch out

"So how many times are you going to use this title?" Jingles: You dare question me? Extra work in the salt mines!

Speaking as an avid US destroyer player - failure to kill me first in a game where I've been spotted is a great way to lose. Destroyers are the eyes of the team; I can sit in stealth and spot for all the battleships behind cover/concealment. Even in a game with carriers, my ship can still do well spotting. I can also stealth torpedo in higher tiers or I can sneak around and batter you to death with rapid fire guns. Unless there is some much more pressing concern, as a destroyer you *need* to kill or at least drive off your opposite number first. If the enemy team was even a little more competent this would have been an embarrassing loss.

you are way too generous jingles. as a dd player i would describe that as piss poor dd play by a player only concerned with damage farming for himself irrespective of whether his actions could cause a loss for the team

Honestly, when a DD with good AA is that close to a carrier, it should go for it anyway: 1) it was so close that it could shoot down planes during their return flight as well, making the AA a lot more effective 2) CVs often sail in straight lines, especially when up against the border of the map, so a torpedo Hail Mary would've done the job anyway, even if the rocket planes had finished him before he could gun down the CV 3) CVs are worth a lot more points than DDs, so a trade would've been beneficial to the team. Other than that, yeah, lots of bad decisions here. Or, I should say, some bad decisions, especially in relation to torpedoes, and generally an attitude of *going for damage instead of kills and objectives* . It reminds me of something I've noticed when checking the stats of some player, on either side, that caught my attention for the wrong reason: their WR and personal rating are usually lower than mine (not that I'm anything to brag about), but their damage records are about the same.

Wtf when he’s shooting with those tiny guns he shoots the hull or the turrets that are the most armoured part of the ship especially battleships

Even a bad player gets to shoot enemy team so bad, it results in great achievement, occasionally. And this is exactly, what this video is about. It's important to explain cases likey this.

Risking that I sound more offensive than I intend to he is one of the most annoying players you meet out there. Being on his team, watching all the bad decisions he is making I probably would have lost my shit and seeing his results at the end would have made me hit my head through my desk. I am fully aware he could be a sort of new or just very casual player but for me personaly playing with him would be a pain...

Even a broken clock can be right twice a day...

Is this the 10th time where Jingles titles his video with "If It's Stupid...“？ Someone grab a counter out, we are doing this cinema wins style

He shoots at the DD when he finally catches it low speed and reversing. A lot of his target selection behavior seems to be someone who doesn't trust his ability to hit an tough target at range. That's totally understandable, but also, you'll never get better if you dont try!

I'm new to WoW. This video is very helpful. Please feature a cruiser, and a battleship with the tactics you should be using for each of those kinds of vessels. Cheers

He also shooting at the gun of BB, making his DPS drop like 50%

I think more situational awareness will also benefit Janissary. At 11:26, Janissary began to concentrate on the Iowa and spent roughly the remainder of the smoke screen killing the Iowa. However, in the process, Janissary allowed the Thunderer to close to very short range when the smoke screen was about to expire. I am not sure if Janissary intended to confront the Thunderer anyways, but if that wasn't the plan, Janissary could have backed up around the Island to his left and avoided being seen; Janissary would not have taken the risk of being rammed by the Thunderer. I am sure there are other examples where more situational awareness would be better, but I think this is the most notable one.

I do like this format. Not just showing picture perfect replays. Having someone who understands the mechanics of the game pointing out the mistakes constructively is a great idea. You could call it World of Warships Workshop or WoWW 😉. I certainly learnt a thing or 2 from this video. Which is great because thats the point of the video. Good Stuff, more of this please!

I feel like this title was used only a week or 2 ago… whatever, more Jingles is always good

This guy is just an average player, so yes he made mistakes. But he played for himself, for dmg, not for his team.

Congrats on that result, very nice! I'm in no way a DD captain, so I can not give advice as well as so many others, but with Jingles pointing out mistakes and making them obvious to a bad DD captain such as myself, I really hope you take his advice and really improve your game. I hope to see another of your videos on his channel in the future of you implementing what you have learned here and getting an even BETTER result! Good luck to you!

Jingles, this is precisely, what we love and want and need. Someone to share his knowledge and understand, and insight. I don't even play the game (or WoT), but I love watching you and telling us things that happen, what's done good, what's done bad, how to act, how to react. Chances are slim to nonexistent that I ever find myself in a situation that resembles any of that, but I love learning about it. How much mor do you reckon others will be eager to learn from you? ;)

Love this video, because now I know that as bad as I am, I don't do what that guy did. Great confidence boost

Tex: Let's make some bad decisions at high speed! This guy: Hold my beer! Jokes aside this was average guy doing average guy things. And, among the trolls and assholes, there are some comments here with good advice but really nothing that Jingles didn't already say in the video itself. So if you slog through the mud long enough to read this then yeah... what Jingles said.

Hi Jingles, great commentary and tips, which we all need from time to time. Janissary was extremely "lucky" to get the result he did. From my perspective, it was not his skill that caused a fantastic result but bad enemy decisions. All of us have had a game where everything just seems to go in our favor. More than half of his damage comes from a run aground BB who was just a sitting duck, a "lucky" torpedo hit on another BB and a Thunderer who ignored him too long. He had no other ships hunting or targetting him really. His biggest area to improve on are (a) If you can damage or take out a DD, you must. They are the bane of any sea battle. (b) If you have a dead in the water, sitting duck BB, launch as many torpedos as you can to take it out asap. This means use the torp reload booster. That is why you have it. And (c) low health, slow turret turning BBs can be taken out by guns, dont waste torps on them. Yet with all this said, great result. Lady Luck sure smiled on Janissary that day.

Thank you. Like Janissary, I have made these Errors, thanks again for pointing out my mistakes, I am still learning.

These are the decisions that tilt me. I totally understand when someone tunnels or loses track of the map in the heat of a fight - I do it myself, but some decisions are just so obviously wrong... The sad thing is: Sometimes, the poor choices ultimately result in teammates dying only then allowing the remaining people farming additional 100k+ damage where it otherwise would just have been a 12:0 stomp which is over in 10 minutes.

I love the critique video. I'm a newish player trying to figure out how to make good decisions, and this video helped me even more than the other reviews of good play. I hope they keep coming. Maybe I'll send one of mine but you might smash your own computer when you watch it haha

Dear Jingles, I think you pointed out the most important parts for Dave to improve on. One thing I would like to emphasize on concerning the torpedo launching and the use of the reload booster on such DDs. If you have launched your first set of torpedos on the indicator you should factor in the actions of the ship that is receiving the torpedos. He or she will: - Eat the torpedos like a madman and be most likely flooding. Flooding will cause slowing down; - Try to dodge the most of the torpedos and alter course. Most people will turn in, some do turn out. With the above in mind you the one thing you should not do is to launch the second set of torpedos (example: 30 seconds later) exactly on the indicator as this will most likely result in missing all torpedos. The less/more time is between the seperate launches, the different the story above becomes. Trying to get into the mindset of the player receiving the torpedos and what they most likely will do is a good way to increase your torpedo hit ratio. Best regards on of your loyal viewers, DeleRT

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This looks to me like a captain lacking experience, it was all luck no skill, but his profiles tells another story. If he always plays like this he is not very popular with his team mates, i bet

Excellent critique, RADM Jingles. Insightful and informative without bashing the player. Please do more of these.

I'd love it to see a "If It's Stupid But It Works..." series! That'd be great Jingles!

*Deja vu! I've just been in this place before!*

I don't wanna be toxic here. But this really hurts when I watch. I'm not saying that I'm a super good player by any means. But I can't watch people doing obvious mistakes that I personally wouldn't make

i am also a mouse wheel scroller. It's a terrible habit I need to break. Going to map the SHFT key to MMB! Really enjoyed the analysis and it will help me a lot in learning to avoid simple errors that need correction. Great Video and Jan, we all make those mistakes as well... you are not alone :)

As with watching these world of warships videos, I learned something new that I can apply to my games too.

Same title used twice in one week? It this a new record?

I understand your trepidation in showing this, it was quite painful to watch. Definitely a lucky game in terms of damage but: scroll wheel zooming, complete lack of situational awareness, poor maneouvering and terrible predictions about enemy movement. I don't want to get personal about an individual player after seeing one game, so I will say that some of the things they did were what I would expect of a 40% tomato. But congrats on having a great game anyway.

I found this to be really informative. Your explaining the wrong moves and why they are wrong was really interesting and helpful. Full disclosure, I don't play World of Warships yet, but with this kind of tutelage I might be emboldened to try.

Perfect replay to rephrase the saying "If It's Stupid But It Works it isnt stupid" to "If It's Stupid But It Works its just lucky". And i really like that jingles initiates a discussion so everyone can improve/share their opinion.

Great dd .. travels at 3/4 speed and ends up the ship at the back. Yep that is what a DD is for ... NOT

"If it's stupid but it works..." It's still stupid, but they got lucky should be the rest of that statement.

It could be a series by itself, the personal critique of the mighty jingles!

Biggest issue I had that hasn't been mentioned yet: you have AP, use it! Especially in the Akizuki/Kitakaze/Harugumo. Set a fire or two, (do it again if the target damage cons), then switch to AP if (!) you have a broadside. You do 2k+ per salvo instead of 700. The same goes for other DDs with high velocity guns (Russian/some Pan-Asian) and all DDs if you're at very close range. French DDs in particular can quickly gun down a CL or even a CA with AP + reload booster when they come within 5-6km. The only DDs I'd never use AP on are the Japanese torpboats, their HE is simply to good on its own. Apart from that: yes Jingles, turning this format into a series would be great :)

This was painful to watch, Bad Akizuki down!

If an enemy dd is spotted, and you can shoot at it, you shoot at it. Period. Even if you're in a bb, you immediately set your next salvo for HE and start training your guns. Failing to kill a dd when you have the chance, 9 out of 10 times will come back to bite you in the arse later

We all need to have a critique on our play, sometimes we can't see it because its too quick during a game. Great commentary Jingles

Maybe consider turning this into a series? "If it's stupid but it works" It would be a great way to let newer players know some more advanced or unknown skills, as well as just being fun to watch :)

man this video made me cringe so much. I think you also missed one important point Jingles, the reason why he does not shoot at the dds but shoots at the bbs is because he did not care about the team or winning, he just wants to farm points. He did not help win the battle or support anyone, he did not spot or cap, he just stayed in the back and farmed what he could. The dmg amount is high because not always you have a yamato beach in front of you and 2 bbs charge into your smoke... with not a single shot being fired in your direction. And the CV at the end... he launched rockets planes from behind the island and then cancelled them... I mean that is 4 instances of absolute incompetence that benefit you in a single game.

When Forest Gump plays WoWs...

IJN Destroyers is kind of my specialty and I have a couple of playlist that Janissary probably could benefit from but I think I could ad some more tips: 1. First just as Jingles said do not say affermative if you dont plan on actually help said player, say no or nothing at all and he wont plan for your assistance, that is just a Douchy move. 2. Never waste a smoke. Akizukis damage comes mainly from smoke and wasting one is saying no to a whole lot of damage or even kills. 3. At 4:30 never waste you high damage torps on a almost dead ship like that Moskva, you can devestate a Yamato or a Kremlin with those torps if used correctly. 4. At 5:46 It IS good you slowing down when popping smokes but you almost stopped when you still have 14 sec smoke left. Go at 1/4 speed until the last puff and spread out that smoka as much as possible. 5. Same instance, Never sit broadside on in a smoke, specially with a enemy DD around, thats a good way to get dev struck, sit at a 45 degree angle and shoot and preferable move slowly back and forth so you have a little momentum when enemy torps show up. 6. At 6:07 ALWAYS shoot the DD when they are spotted, you take your biggest enemy out of the equation, probably secure the win for you team AND damage to DDs gives you WAY MORE XP, credits then chipping a Yamato. 7. Same instance. You sit still in smoke after a Grozovoi was spotted 7 km away from you?! You had zero awareness of that torp threat. You should be dead. 8. At 8:11 you use torps at a almost dead Yamato, menawhile you have a almost full HP Thunderer parked in a supernarrow channel (a.k.a KILLBOX) right behind you which you probably could have damaged and killed using your TRB. Map awareness! 9. At 10:51 you use the TRB at the wrong time, never in such close suggcession and never when the BB start to manouver away, wait til he make his course and then use TRB and sink him, if you this close and in a smoke and he is closing in wait to the last sec before getting spotted and fire to secure the kill on him. I would have waited to 11:55 and let Iowa burn down and instead use TRB on killing the Thunderer. I have a shit-ton of videos of Akizuki where i trigger all the special talents of Yamamoto captain (First blood AND Kraken), this is a monster of a ship when played right.

I actually like the idea of you taking videos like this and pointing out how they could have done better

Guess the name of the video RU-vid recommended for me? :) Yeah.

Salt mines motto: If they're stupid but they work.

He announced he was a Tard when when started shooting his guns leaving his own spawn.

Wow GG both jingles and jennesary, team play wise u certainly weren't there for that at the beginning but things seemed different part way through and team play began . But a tremendous outcome for u and ur team and we all know a win is a win no matter what happened. So GG . Congrats on a great score

I didn't see the point of this content. The culture surrounding this game seems to gravitate around personal score rather than teamwork. And Wargaming rewards players accordingly. Hes gone after large capital ships, setting them alight and burning them to the ground. And hes intent of getting the most damage possible. Something else WG rewards, rather than teamwork. Just about every video I see for WoWs on RU-vid is damage centric. Setting BBs on fire or if youre a BB driver, going after massive hits through citadels. Sure he could have made some better decisions at more appropriate junctures in the game, but until WG change the way players are rewarded, this type of game play will persist. And this game is equally notorious as Team Fortress 2 and other games that just throws players in the deep end from the very beginning, without really giving any instruction.

last time I was this early carriers were balanced Edit: incredible isn't it

Welcome to the if it’s stupid but it works shows with jingles

This was a great video Jingles! I loved your commentary on how to improve the little things in your performance that add up. wasting time lining up torps instead of shooting, when to best use the reload booster, all the things that, like you said, are that hard to fix once you know about them. The constructive criticism drew my attention into the replay, and had me analyzing it too.

Ah, a cat video again :-)

This was the most selfish DD play I've ever experienced, this guy would make a perfect CV player.

I think this is a great idea for a 'series' . Great feedback! As a DD/CL player often everything DD's do is given harsh treatment by the team. DDs are the whipping boy for blame. WG needs to address how to 'award' team work instead of everyone trying to work on their own to get XP as that seems to be the definer of how good a player is. Not the support they provide.

jingles you should called this video : things that make you want to facepalm so hard you push your nose through the back of your head

Jingles, this is about the seventh time you have used that title.

Mistakes easy to correct : turn ON brain

This a nice lecture on do's and don't's on how to be a competent destroyer captain. General rules for any new destroyer captains.

Would love a series of these! Constructive criticism is always good - great to have an outside perspective. Would defo send in some of my potato games for that perspective. I know other CCs do some similar stuff, but its Jingles!

He's not a team player. He's just trying to run up a high damage score. He's a crap player.

well good to see that even garbage players can have good games

For what it's worth, I would like to see a series of this nature for both WoT and WoWs as others have mentioned

You know you've made it when Jingles makes a video featuring you and it has this title

7:40 and got sick and tired of watching him play...such a bad play... I wonder why I don't get this kind of potatoes in enemy team as this guys gets...

So basically a noob with alot of luck. :D

Love your content mate, I never tire of watching and rewatching your videos

@Austin Reese, I have seen a Flamu video doing just that. I think it was of a series. Flamu was asking for replays submitted for his honest critique of gameplay.He pinned a comment telling people not to fling salt because he, Flamu|, was encouraging the replay submissions for an honest and constructive commentary on the replay submitted

this guy is just bad

Nope. 5 minutes into this video, and just no. That's almost a third of the watch time to see some piss poor play. I'm out. Don't care to see the rest.

the thunderer fight in particular really makes me feel a bit sick

And here i am hoping my tier 5 italian cruiser battle had finally made it into a jingles video

Imagine being Janissary right now. "Oh hey, new Jingles vid and mentions stupid in the title... wait... this looks familiar... ah shit"

I'm Glad Our Supreme Overlord and Mighty Gnomelord took my suggestion to label this video "If its stupid but it works!" and actually put it out so us average players can learn from others mistakes? Right I'm going to hide in the deepest part of the saltmines now!....

He did ok-he is still learning the game.

The ice cream van music at 3:39 tho ahah

I've lost track of how many Jingles videos have the title "If it's Stupid But It Works..."