World of Warships- One Of The Absolute Worst, And Most Painful Grinds In The Game (Colorado) 

Correction: Meant to say California not North Carolina when talking about ships being refloated at Pearl Harbor.

Battleship? I thought she was the most heavily armed postbox in history

Colorado was such an enjoyable ship for me the guns are absolutely god tier at t7 and the improved heal makes up for the lack of armour Plus while being slow it turns like a kart

Oh yeah regarding the "Why did so many navies around the world keep their older battleships in service from 1920-1940+?", Drachinifel did a pretty stellar video on the subject not too long ago. It mainly boils down to yes keeping up a considerable military presence throughout the timeperiod, but also because of the Great Depression in the 1930s. Not a lot of money left to go around + the need to maintain a navy of some size and firepower meant that a lot of navies opted to keep costs low by retrofitting their older ships instead of building new ones. It worked out great for some (USN and IJN in particular), not so much for others (RN and most of their retrofitted battlecruisers in particular suffered. Queen Elizabeth class was an exception though.)

Such an injustice to an American battleship that actually saw lots of action in the biggest war in history, unlike the entire navy of a certain other nation.

Colorado I made sure I had the Blue XP booster + premium time to get through. I have to say as someone who has been playing since Open Beta back in 2015, Colorado is _way_ easier to play now than it was back then. Her ergonomics, gun characteristics, acceleration with the help of the module, and turning, + the fact they removed her 1920s stock hull (Does ANYONE remember that?) make her a lot easier to use now than she was way back when. These days her low speed is literally the only thing that makes her such a terrible ship to play. Her guns are fairly consistent in my experience and the 406s punch well enough for her to at least be usable in tier 9. I have her sister WV'41 and the fact that it only gets uptiered up to tier 8 makes such a huge difference. I guess it's also the tough spot WeeGee find themselves in considering IRL she was the last Battleship class the US built prior to NC. Maybe they should give her an extra sped buff to just make this whole issue go away? I don't know.

Ive been grinding the Colorado and was wondering why I'm not having fun, thanks for outlining everything in a clear way.

I love self-punishment so much I'm on my 7th reset of the line for research points.

I had nothing but fond memories of the Colorado when I was still new to Warships when I was grinding my way up the American BB line. Really hammered home of getting the best position to project your power while the slow speed always kept me out of trouble of overextending. And considering how maneuverable she is, she just laughs at DDs trying to torp her. No joke, there was a game where I occupied 2 of the 3 enemy DDs to try and torp me, that my team's DDs had free reign over the entire map. But since she has decent range, I still managed around 150k damage on that game with none of the torps hitting me.

The Colorado was originally a brawler. It still shines at tier in that role, but the meta has changed. Its current strength is on the smaller maps with close together caps, where it can position between two caps and provide 16inch hate to both. Then, when rushed it does what it does well: brawl. Proper angling is key in those situations. That said, the best part of the Colorado is the North Carolina.

Actually had a good time in the Colorado years ago. That said it was the Iowa's speed that got me into trouble. With the way Tier 9&10 games are now, I can hardly use the Iowa. Would go back to using the Colorado if I still had it.

Just got Colorado, free XP’d my way to all the upgrades, and in my first match I start all the way to the side of Two Brothers with only 2-3 ships which all immediately go to join the bulk of both teams on the complete opposite side of the map. So here I am trying to sail over and seeing barely anything to shoot at.

She used to have very good AA for her tier, until the CV rework of course :)

im grinding through the us bb line and at colorado, the best u can really do is just pose as the japanese navy and snipe with your abysmal range

As slow as molasses in February. In most theaters the Allies attained Naval superiority and air superiority. As a result most BBs and Cruisers supplied bombardment support at landings in North Africa, Italy and Normandy allowing Allied DIvisions to dominate up to 14 km into the mainland.

Back when the Colorado and Izumo had A hulls, I did not mind the Colorado. The Izumo on the other hand, I did not even hesitate to get past her after a single battle. The issue is the up tier of Match Maker and that WG just refuses to even consider adding a minor delay to offer +/- 1 instead of two tier jumps.

Painfully slow speed means that you cant run away from enemy, while enemy always can run away from you. Both of the situations suck...

Dude I grinded through the Colorado and got the N. Carolina. Wasn‘t difficult but I lost motivation to keep on grinding for T9…

The main problem of these guns other than the shell speed, is the lackluster penetration

I actually had very good games in the Colorado. I read up on Colorado when I was about to start the US BB line, so I was ready to free xp it. People seem to dislike it as much the old Izumo. If you watch people play it you learn what not to do very quickly. I'm sure everyone's seen the Colorado player that spends 8 mins going out on the 1-2 line flank. The other side dies and he's pretty much zoned himself out for the next 10 mins trying to rush back with everyone raging in game chat "hurry up" "useless BB". I played Colorado kinda middle map waiting for broadsides, got through it no grind what so ever. Armour is decent and the guns can chunk 20k.

If you think the Colorado is bad now you should have seen it in Beta and at launch. It was deliberately designed to be horrible bad in order to "Encourage" people so spend doubloons to free XP past her. The same thing applied to the Izumo.

Your right, I finally ground thru the Colorado & researched the Kansas.I had researched the N. Carolina a few years ago. ( Took a couple years off WOW's ) Painful, very painful.

Colorado is quite enjoyable at tier 7. Its painful if your bottom tier. At tier 9 with the speed but at tier 7 shes still very potent. Durable and offensively dangerous.

The last couple of months I focused on grinding out both T X USN BBs, and it was a true pain to get through, and like I said to a friend of mine the other day, I'm NEVER resetting the USN BBs line.

Weegee Colorado needs to be historically accurate. Imaginary soviet cv's must rule the seas.

Great vid Sea Lord, I am grinding through the Colorado right now. Thanks for the tips.

I feel like I'm the only one who actually enjoyed the Colorado. The guns are accurate and punchy, it was slow enough that I couldn't just blunder my ship away in the first 5 minutes so I had to think about where I wanted to be and when to be there, and being in a tier 7 squishy means that when I get uptiered, all I have to provide is fire support. I don't need to stress myself out by being the frontline of the team unless I want to be.

DONT FORGET ABOUT THE BRISK SKILL! long as your undetected you get a 10% speed boost (IE good for getting into position or repositioning, or running away), That plus the speed flag should get you up to 24 ish knots by my off hand math. Anyway as someone that ground though the US Battleships (up to the Iowa), the Colorado is pretty meh far as a grind in the game, it just takes time. As noted: 8, 16inch guns (overmatch, decent dispersion and good reload time), layer upon layer of armor to protect the citadel thanks to the ALL or NOTHING armor scheme (hard but not impossible to citadel), US dreadnaughts have very tight turning circles, and while i can agree 21 knots is SLOW, it keeps you from over extending. It could be worse! (Oklahoma 18 knots speed, you need brisk to get to 21 knots). The US BB line teaches you alot of things about playing a battleship.

This was my first line back to 2015, when the only battleship lines were either IJN or USN... i have faded memories of this grind and the game is much different now, but i remember that New Mexico and New York was the real pain. With colorado, you got range, accurate guns and decent AA, i dont know if it has the best BB AA till today but i am sure it is not horrid... Do u know what is written in my mind though? Me in a New mexico playing on the ocean against tier 7 hiryu...imagine the pain making circles with a 20 knots BB in order to avoid been striken by cv(cv's could easily kill you in one-two go's back then) and the enemy cv typing in chat that he has more planes... Imagine a ship with 12 guns to not be able to hit reliably targets at 7 or 8 km's and to have to grind 3 hulls for it...imagine a ship starting the game and being forced to go straight or it would be become irrelevant, imagine a ship completely defensless against dd's... anyway... no i am not trying to say that Colorado is the best ship ever, i cant stand being so slow either, but in other aspects its pretty good ship... Do u know what i trully miss though? when we could build Full AA builds with American battleships and be effective.... you may laugh at me nowdays but if you are old player, and especially cv player you may understand how hard was to strike Iowa or NC I never understood why the nerfed USN AA and btw i am not US fanboy or something i am not even American i did not even know what Missouri is before i start the game...but i used to love NC and Iowa for this.. and their great design

I just got the North Cal, it’s, it’s night and day really. When I die I play the Colorado and man do 4x2 gun turrets not feel good when compared to 3x3 gun turrets, especially when I’m tboning someone. I need to learn tiger 8-10 gameplay cuz the game feels completely different when I play with my friend who mains the Iowa. But yeah, stoked for the Iowa grind and if they add NJ imma snatch that ship cuz of how awesome the ship is to visit and for the amazing state it’s named after, tho I’m biased to that last point

I played more than one game where I essentially did nothing because every damn wnemy ship got sunk before I could get close enough to get more than a few salvos off. It was so frustrating.

I’m doing it now, for Kansas, it’s so slow, got NC thank gawd, I think it’s so painful because the NM is so good and it makes Lolorado feel like a downgrade.

Strangely it was one of my favourites. So much so I bought the West Virginia.

When it comes to speed they have bumped up speed before on several ships. The Bayern was, in reality, a 21-knot ship and in-game it's 26 knots and the Normandie was a 21 Knot design and one of its engines was a triple expansion steam engine, not even a turbine yet in game its capable of 29.5 knots the Tier 7 French Lyon was also a 21 Knot design as it's engine layout was the same as the Normandies's yet in-game, it's 27knots.

i think that everyone loves NC cause is a blast to play with it after suffering in Colorado so long xD

The only saving grace of this ship is that they are consistent and teach you patience and positioning and later on to hold your shots for a better silhouette.

I dont mind colorado nearly as much as I mind Lyon. Combine the garbage accuracy and high shell count and you're landing about the same number of shells as other t7 BBs but you're landing 14" shells as opposed to 15 or 16. Granted she does pretty well at close range but so do 16" shells that can overmatch most of what they fight

Ain't called the Struggle Bus for nothing

Love the Colorado! Her guns are so ridiculously rewarding as long as you have good positioning.

It teachers you to Appreciate playing both T-8 threw T-10 of both lines.

Thankfully there is Narai. I used that operation to grind Colorado and other terrible t7 ships. With the expansion of operations soon, I can do that to t6 to T8 ships too, like the Kansas

I felt the tier 6 was so bad I free XP'd the tier 7 US BB. I just couldn't face it 😂. Feeling that way about the entire Italian BB line. I don't get why they just create these misery ships/lines in the game. All the ships should have some rewarding characteristics

I agree completely except about the monty. It use to be one of the best bb's in the game but has been power crept. It can still hold in there but it feels weaker than it use to.

My phone says you replied to me about Jingles. Yes, I have watched him since 2012 for World of Tanks and since the inception of World of Warships. One of my favorite videos was him friendly fire killing a teammate with the Kitakami and then profusely apologizing for it. He twice featured my gameplay on his RU-vid site.

For me, the other US BB line was a real pain, boy... Minnesota can't citadel absolutely anything. Full flat broadside cruisers at 10km and still no cits, even worst, a ton of bounces, and I'm like WTF?!?!? I'm losing my mind here?!?!

Good man talking up the NC lol. I skipped the Colorado back in the day to get to the NC but had to finally trek through it to get to the Kansas.

I went through the grind on this thing way back when it could see tier 10 and did so on a regular basis. The tier 10 carriers would always make the Colorado their first priority since they knew they could absolutely strike with impunity on this thing before it got its AA buff which was then removed with the CV rework. I had to grind it with a lot of 0 damage games because I just didn't live long enough to get in the fight since it was super slow and could not keep up with any of the ships and CV players knew that.

wow! that carrier had you picked out! lol

I love the colorado. Yeah, sometimes it's slow. But has awesome guns and tons of health.

Colorado is at her best as an ambush predator. Like a crocodile on the discovery channel. Get yourself angled in the middle of the spawn, stern towards the enemy. Stay quiet, stay dark and act like a floating log. Sooner or later that T9 cruiser will show you broadside, just like the wildebeest coming down to the river bank to get a drink. Bam! First Blood, Dev Strike and 35k damage. That’s your game done. Even if your team throws harder that Nolan Ryan, you made XP and credits. Just rinse and repeat. You’ll be surprised how much impact you can have in the Lolarado. I ended up with a 65% win rate in this ship. One of my best funny enough.

Like one out of 20 games, I had a strange feeling like the ship was nerfed, that the guns got better dispersion and the ship could actualy take a hit, but the remaining 19 games, its just the garbage we are used to, from 7-10km, struggling to hit broadside of another BB, not to mention dreaming to hit a citadel or multiple citadels from a salvo...

Tbh I honestly slay in Colorado for some reason. Grinding it twice to progress both lines really taught me how to read and use the map and that has helped me with my gameplay overall

The Colorado was rough when I went through it but the guns on it were pretty good. I disliked the Izumo (back then) more, though... actually used a big chunk of freexp to get out of that one. The original Furutaka was horrendous. I found the Italian DD line a fairly painful grind.

Oof, I felt for that Gneisenau at the end.

Oh that legendary Gneisenau accuracy!

Ngl I thought the only reasons why I hate Colorado and North Carolina was just cuz I was bad at the game, didn’t know so many other people hated them too

I heard a lot of bad things about this ship but when i got her she became one of my favorite ships in the game no matter what people say i love colorado for me new york was the low point in the american bb line

That first shot on the Omaha annoyed tf out of me lmao. How could you miss such an easy layup!!! Good vid as usual tho hahah

I actually preferred the grind in the Colorado more than the grind I am doing right now in the Andrea Doria, And then you have the Kansas.

I’m probably in the minority but Colorado is far from the worst grind in game. Yorck is WAY worse, French dd’s, italian dd’s and BB’s Also North Carolina wasn’t at Pearl Harbor sea lord lol

They need to move her to the slow side ot the tech tree and put in the Washingtion with the original 8 14in guns or SoDak or Indiana from the 20's which were the first fast bb ships planned.

Actually got a Kraken in the Colorado, and did the grind twice. good video

the geneisenau at the end, trying to hit you several times at 14 km range xD

I quite liked the Colorado. As long as you realise that you can’t chase anything and your probably stuffed if ambushed it’s ok. Get her in the right position though and you can dish out some damage.

And yet, I still have my Colorado, and take it out of port from time to time. People underestimate this vessel due to all the public hate for it. Like any other ship placed in competent hands, it can be very deadly. I've always done rather well in her.

Some corrections to your Pearl Harbor lore- Maryland wasn't sunk, mostly because she was protected from torpedo strikes by Oklahoma which was moored outboard. (Maryland was actually the 2nd least damaged BB after Pennsylvania- I think she only took a couple bomb hits) and Colorado's refit was taking place at Bremerton, not California :)

interestingly enough, I loved Colorado when I initially was grinding for the NC, she performed so well and I had so much fun with her, when I was grinding her for Kansas however, she was awful at best, though at least she was better than Kansas...

Colorado definitely wasn't my favorite... but the New Mexico is definitely worse, Colorado at least has decent range and reasonably accurate guns. NM can't even say that.

Colorado is absolutely fine, nothing wrong with it. Kansas though, fuck me, that thing is THE struggle bus.

I played it years ago, as my first T7 ship, saved up some free xp and skipped, didnt even have enough money to buy the modules at that time. T7 Brawl was for me the most effective way to grind xp on other T7s

Ah the good old "spend 5 minutes getting anywhere and then die" battelship

Funny enough Colorado treats me extremely well, and is still my highest damage t7 ship. I almost never have a bad game with her lol

I actually liked the Colorado for some reason, I guess the guns mainly. Always rewarding to get hits. One thing I remember is that when uptiered everyone focused on all the other bbs other than you. Maybe because slow, but also everyone has it in their head that the Colorado sucks i guess.

I never understood all the hate for this ship, its a tank. I have had many great games in it and the guns slap.

when I started playing there were only 2 lines and free xp was very hard to come by and when i got to this ship it was so awful i used free XP to skip it this and the Izumo were God awful, but the Izumo got some huge buffs and this one did not and i wonder why they don't do anything with her

The worst lines to grind are the Pan Asian cruiser line and the Italian DD line

I absolutely love that ship the guns are amazing and I dont hate the mobility since it turns amazing

So, do you know what the "benefit" of so called "turbo" electric drive was... Electric motors "spin up" very fast and the "gearbox" that connects them to the drive shaft allows them to get a prop up to max rpm a lot faster than a steam turbine, it also allows max rpm and very quick changes forward to reverse, the USN liked them because they were compact but these were the fringe benefits. You know what the benefit of a short fat hull (low length to beam ratio) is MANEUVERABILITY. The Colorado's should be very maneuverable (relative to other Battleships) they should speed up, slow down and turn better than any other battleship tier for tier, that was the benefit of this short fat ship with electric drive. In the game the ship has the terrible penalty of this drive system (pathetic 21 kts top speed) but without the actual benefits.

Colorado is one of my most consistent BBs and I've won games just from being able to survive with the improved heal and turning circle. There are moments I think "I could've landed that shot in Nagato," but there are moments I also think "I would've died by now in Nagato."

When I used to play World of Warships, don't anymore for various reasons (primarily the fact I see more fake ships in game than real, hell a lot of them are even faker than proper paper ships that at least had blueprints), the first time through the Colorado I hated the ship. Picked it up like a year after I'd grinded past it and loved the ship for some reason. I can't explain why but when I initially played it the guns felt awful, the armor felt pointless, and the speed was (and still is) awful. But then I picked it up again and suddenly the guns felt pinpoint accurate, devastating, and refreshing even after playing mainly my Iowa and Montana. The armor also felt a hell of a lot more usable than I remembered.

I think they keep their speeds to consistent for marketing. "See, we are historically accurate. We were even willing to dock a ship's speed by half a knot to make it more accurate. Just don't look at those russian battleships."

probably italian bb line is worse xD most gripe i had with trolorado was slow speed , when rest of line ships nearing 30 knots and the inaccuracy of the guns sometimes

I couldn't wait to get through that grind to get the NC!!!!!

Me during 2021 : American bb main that found out New York and New Mexico sucks. I stopped grinding it. I became IJN cruiser main (got my Zaō recently). Seriously, please, if u wanna have the nc, free exp through t6-t7

Which line are you regrinding, Mountbatten? Vermont or Montana?

I would re-grind the US battleship tech tree over the Pan Asian cruisers any day...

Wow I just revisited this a few weeks back to go up the new US BB line and enjoyed it immensely! Last playthrough was several years ago.

That bot Fiji though...

Worst thing about the colorado is getting a bad spawn behind an island and taking 5 minutes to maneuver it arround just so I could arrive at a cap point as the match was ending

I'm enjoying that grind as we speak. I had to do the propulsion upgrade just to get to battle in time to score any damage. Apparently 8 years away from the game has made me incapable of decent play. The only thing I can win is co-op battles. Everything else, I can't even break even in. I should probably just quit again.

Maybe give here the Acceleration/deceleration Buff that they gave the Tillmans?

I like my BBs like I like my women - thicc and a little slow. My stats is Colorado are decent. The grind was easy, and I even kept it for a while.

I had 4500 base xp game with 7 kills in colorado a year or two ago but realised too late so I lost the replay.

Run a blue ship XP flag. Run Brisk commander skill. this yields 24.9 knots. the guns hit very hard. I ground the Colorado in 8 games. Yesterday. I even got a kraken once.

I loved the Colorado so much I happily grinded with it to get all 3 lines that I never play

I'll take the Colorado grind over the current t6 bb brawl. I've had the Ocean map 7 times in a row. So stupid.

i dont know why but i liked the colorado as much as north carolina

I would not call it miserable - you have to position yourselves VERY carefully. You are the first pushing and first kiting, then you are just at the right place when you have to!

Appreciate the video. Trying to figure out how to have a good game in this ship. Noting that it is not necessarily easy even with a player of your caliber, as stated in your narrative. Noting that I am not “grinding”, ran up the whole line a year or two ago and not resetting anything, not ever. Did not sell it, so just trying to justify that decision. Checking with WoWS Fitting Tool, the guns have slightly less penetration at range but slightly better ballistics than the North Carolina guns. Probably a slightly lighter AP shell. I.E., good guns, particularly at Tier VII. Also better than Sinop, but beware Vlad the Impaler at Tier VIII. You make a good point about transitioning to greater speed going up the Tiers from Colorado. It is also a factor when returning to the Colorado after playing mostly higher Tier battleships for awhile. Size of the maps is a big factor: lower tiers get smaller maps, mitigating the speed issue with most of the Standard Bathtubs in the game.

I don't know why, but I liked this ship way more than I liked the NC. I also did way way better in this ship. Maybe this has something to do with my playstyle.