I'm highly considering the Diva when I get into the true end game phase later next year, I've been playing with mid-fi sets for months and ended with the B2:Dusk which ironically gives me zero problems with the fit. Actually that's a lie, I really want an S8 before I go get the true TOTL stuff. Does it make sense to get this and the Anole VX? I might get two endgame sets if I have the $$$.
@@Gizaudio Thanks for your nice reviews. I also consider buying a new iem. Because of your videos I'm considering the U12T, the Aniole Vx or V14 or the divinity 14. Looking for a more fun Iem, for Rap/rnb and Rock. Since all my other equipment leans more to neutral. Is there a comparison video for these. Or could you give me an advice? Thanks for all your efforts in the videos
I've not tried the V14 or the Divinity so I can't speak for those. Between the U12T and VX... The U12T is a very safe tuning with great technical qualities across the board. It's near impossible to find a big fault about the U12T. The only reason to not enjoy it would be it is simply too safe. That's the case for me, hence, I rarely ever grab them. Though I can 100% respect the performance it has. The VX is intense, the amount of details is the best in the industry and the way it's presented is very open, transparent, it's not congested in anyway even though you hear sooooo much more of the music. The biggest issue is going to be the intensity and treble. It's not a very natural listen and if you're sensitive to treble you might not enjoy this as much. Though having said that, it is by far the most addicting IEM once you get your ears on it. Annnnd currently my #1 favorite IEM. For an overall fun IEM for the genres you mentioned......try Sony IER-Z1R :)
@@Gizaudio thanks for the great response. I wasn't sure about the U12T, because of the great technicality. But after your comment I will not consider it. Now I lean more to the VX because even though I would like to have better mid-bass I don't want to lose too much details. But I've used Shure and beyerdynamic headphones, also arya. Which some of them lean more into the treble area or more neutral tuning. The Sony and the monarch mk2 will also be considered. Unfortunately I haven't found shops where I could try them. But thanks a lot for your response and keep up the great work and stay healthy.
If the Diva can get this close to the VX in the technical department in your own words, then I guess the big brothers to the Diva - the Annihilator and X - might even give the VX a run for its money in the detail retrieval aspect eh. Elysian is killing it the IEM market right now, dang wish I had the money lol.
This is the video I am waiting for! As a vocal lover, I really think this will be my end game set after your review :D Only concern - I can't find any buy links in the United States :( The sites that have Diva on sale only ships to Singapore/Australia/Malaysia
Hey Timmy, I came across a great deal for Mest mk2 for under $1k. What’s your thought on Diva vs Mest mk2 if I mainly listen to pop (j-pop & k-pop). Greatly appreciate your response!
For me I find the Mest MK2 to be good, but nothing beyond just good. It doesn't blow me away. It's just safe, easy to enjoy, with great details. However, it lacks the wow factor endgame IEMs should have. The Mest original is better in my opinion. That being said, you can refer to my review of the Diva to see how I feel about it in full glory lol.
Gizaudio, my wife is a professional singer, leads a choral group and is in possession of a MS and PhD. in vocal performance and music education, respectively. She presently leads an all female chorus - 70 high school girls. Her problem is early onset fatigue withe IEMs (earbuds) and need earpads. Please list a couple of recommendations of top-of-the-line earpads that do best at things which maximize the acoustic aesthetics of a group female voices. You enjoy female vocals. Think Natalie Merchant, Margo Timmins, KD Lang, Joan Baez and what would optimize a Americana Folk quartet of the above four. This is a niche that's difficult that's difficult to dig up information (or opinions) on.
I think you are in the wrong place. This man is a salesman not your doctor or someone knows what your wife wants. Go and explore things for yourself. Since your wife is a PhD candidate, I believe she is more than qualified to do the research for herself and not needing to listen to a salesman who is just hyping stuffs.
I believe it's the only true upgrade from Variations. Maybe before buying you can try EQ Variations to the Diva frequency response in order to understand would you really like the tuning
Currently own a blessing 2, thieaudio oracle, monarch mk1, & monarch mk2. Really liking the oracle tuning for the smoothness and monarch mk2 for the overall versatile genre it can handles. Do you recommend getting Elysian diva with my current setup or I should hold up for the anole vx?
Very nice review.. expept you never mention the mest mk 2.. You Don t like it?and a second question.. Are these items capable for mastering-mixing music? And if yes which one is better in that department in your opinion?
do you ever add mid bass to the diva with eq? the iem seems pretty close to perfect, and as much as you say the bass is close to dd bass, i’m afraid to gamble on the ba bass.
U12T is a lot more versatile and safer. It has a well balanced signature with very good bass and an easy going upper midrange, good treble air. Though the issue with it is always that it's not special. It's versatile but doesn't really shine in any genre specifically. Diva is more exciting, less midbass means it won't play well with genres that requires good midbass, and if you're a bass head, this is not really for you. Though it does have a lot of subbass. The Diva specialized in having a incredible upper midrange and treble energy. Vocals are lively while remaining smooth and natural. The best vocal experience in any IEM in my opinion. So in summary, it depends on your taste. If you know you love vocals, especially female vocals, than the Diva is better for you. If you don't know what you like, or if your music library covers many genres, the U12T is a safer pick.
@@Gizaudio you got my attention timmy, i tried the U12T (with m20 module) and found the bass a bit too much for me, so less bass mean i something my ears can handle. I also tried the Monarch mk2 but i found the bass is a bit congested while the mid and treble is truly shine. Does the bass on the Diva clean and not bleed into the 2 other ranges? I listen to mainly female vocals btw
I settled back to enjoy your review. Very enjoyable, clear and informative. Thank you for your excellent review. Sounds like you're still in love with the Divas, even after the honeymoon period! Is there any "minimum" source needed to get the best from the Divas? For example will any DAP be ok, or will some DAPs get more from the Divas? (I've heard that some FiiOs are a bit too powerful for some sensitive IEMs resulting in some background noise).
Lol, yeah I still love it. The Diva doesn't need that much power like most IEMs, it can played off of anything and sounds just fine. If you have a DAP of any quality you're good to go.
Yo! Loving your videos. Just got into IEMs this year and you've helped me decide on many purchases lol. I just recently got the Monarch MK2 but find the cable to be rather heavy. Any advice on an upgrade cable for it in 4.4? Many thanks and hope your day is going well.
I would grab something from Kinera's line up of cables, they are soft and pretty comfortable. The cheapest one is I only $50 I think. And thanks for the kind words man!
Do you think Diva is better than EE Odin? Because for me odin give me a jaw-dropping experience when i tried them, especially the way they are presenting midrange, just full, lush, natural, yet very resolving and transparent
The Odin and Diva are gonna be wowing for different people for sure. The Odin is a lot more bass focus while Diva is vocal focus. I would say both wowed me, but Diva wowed me more. Though if you ask a bass head, they would probably be wowed by Odin more
Tonality wise, Diva is more lively with noticeable treble improvements and midrange clarity over the RSV. RSV will be more similar to a Monarch MK2 or Oracle tuning wise. The Diva is also much more detailed than RSV.
Giz what is the best iem for vocal + smooth + relaxing sound signature? And the most important like, I want it the sound be very clean and not dull, I need to be hearing those every notes and tones differently. While listening to the song, the sound and music shouldnt be depressed and sticking by ears or my brain. Open and clear. Any suggestions? No budget limiting.
If you want something laid back while not being dull, I suggest the Monarch MK2 or if you want an even safer one, than 64 Audio U12T. Though I find the U12T to be a bit too safe.
I'm currently owning VX as my primary item and it's been great so far, but I agree with you on what VX lacks. Diva sounds like the perfect thing I'm looking for tbh. So, aside from being great at female vocal, how does it fare with VX in terms of male vocals and stage/positioning?
VX handles staging and positioning "better" or at least more realistic. The Diva's staging puts the vocals kinda in the forefront and the other instruments play around it almost. Male vocal wise I'd give the edge to Diva for its more natural tonality.
Just heard the Diva today, Now feeling like selling my VX LOL I was told it is a pentagon connection, but it looks like mmcx for me, is this mmcx? Was planning to use with UTWS5 xd AND ALSO I have the Monarch MK2 and Anole VX LOL
MMCX and Pentaconn Ear are different, They look the same but trust me, the Pentaconn Ear is what Elysian use for two reasons -- 1. Durability (they're less likely to break compared to MMCX) 2. Sound quality is better (Lee himself has confirmed this through rigorous testing before finally deciding that he'd use Pentaconn Ear connectors)
The U12T is more versatile/ balanced and overall safer tuning wise. For me it's too safe and thus comes across boring after a while. The Diva is more intense of a listen, the uppermids and treble is as aggressive as it can get while remaining natural. For me Diva is much more exciting, but it's really for people who loves vocals. The U12T is for any genre.
Technical comparison is very similar. But I'd say the Diva is a more exciting listen while the U12T is versatile and more balanced. Different sound signature with similar details. Precog loves the U12T but he also purchased the Diva as well. You can 100% own both. They are different enough tuning wise.
@@Gizaudio probably sub $100 since i just want to try out this tuning style, before going all in, and maybe show some friends if they like it so i can give a great bday gift
The IE600 is definitely more aggressive treble wise, while Diva is more balanced. The treble quality is much smoother and pleasant on the Diva. Detail retrieval on Diva overall is a grade above the IE600 as well. Bass I'll have to listen one more time to make sure.
@@nurmbms90 If you really want that bass power from Sennheiser, I'd say just go for IE900. That one has incredible bass slam and great treble energy, and has great soundstage but the midrange cannot compare to the Diva or the IE600.
@@rinnychor don’t need that type of bass power as I prefer to have a controlled bass with sufficient power like the IE600 . And like you said , midrange presence as well.
Hi Timmy.. just wanna ask if you think tiandirenhe td09 is a better basshead iem than focus edm? Trying to decide between these two to buy.. help me out man..
@@bluraykiller8630 For portability, IFI Go Blue in Bluetooth mode. Then most of my IEM’s are run’n in balanced mode with SpinFit 100 or Final Audio tips 😋
I didn't hear a price tag for it? Unless I missed it? Also you should try the Elysian Annihilator 2021 version next I've heard it's basically the best IEM ever like period
Timbre is very good. Natural, full sounding. If you hyper focus on it you might feel a slight BA-ish timbre showing but 99.9% of the time won't be noticeable.
I EQ'd my ZEX pro to match the Diva and now they sound surprisingly good.Much better detail retrieval,vocals sound better, slightly better imaging and somehow the soundstage now seems to be slightly deeper. To my surprise they even have slightly better detail retrieval than my Olina.
Yeah, tuning plays a big role in macro details. If it's too muddy than vocals are not as clear for example. So fixing the tuning is a great way to get more resolution from your IEMs (assuming the original tuning is not good).
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@@nellatl I honestly just think it depends on how well it's implemented and how much some people care. Blind test have also been very useful. Oratory also has an interesting write up about "BA Bass" which I think is worth a read.
Meanwhile..... Traillii, Jewel, and Le Jardin looking down from vocal heaven :) But in all seriousness, Diva is awesome for its price, great entry level for vocal/balanced neutral lovers, also... Lee is such a great guy!
Please don't compare Traillii with Diva, totally different price range and it's just not fair to compare both. if anything, the Annihilator should be the one competing with the Bird.
@@rinnychor welp not even comparing them as they are in different league, i was just making a joke. Also the annihilator or the x are totally different beasts to the bird, yet my ult to this date is still traillii, giving the most honest yet refined music presentation despite its 'weakness' in the bass haha
Tried the Diva at my local shop, Zeppelin. Thanks Zepp Crew. Anyways, Divas are just average warm balanced tuning iem (Similar to 64 audio A6t) with pretty looks. And they are also not going to be available anytime soon because Elysian is owned by 1 person who is also the iem maker. I know my opinion doesn’t matter and “sound is subjective”. So a pass for me.
