World's First 6 Valve Bb Trumpet - Part 1 

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He could probably do that squeaky toy screamer cheat with that valve haha

Noble Gaming that's not exactly possible without an incredible understanding of theoretical physics and space-age technology.

it would come out insanely sharp or flat depending on what note your on

@supyoist I support this idea.

That would be amazing XD

"Hey bro I was playing my trumpet and I swapped 1 and 3 and now the trumpet has six valves, please help?"

« I think there is a little alignment issue or something on my trumpet. May you have a look ? »

calm down maynard

Theo Birkholz Hmmm...

Theo Birkholz Interesting.....

Yeah! 5 Valves AND a slide! Basically a 5 valve (Maynard style) Firebird! Fantastic!!!

Theo Birkholz good idea

I second this. I have a Bb/A horn, and that a side makes certain keys/parts so much easier to play. I'd love to have an A trumpet in Tchaikovsky 5 (A trumpet parts), that's a nightmare to transpose on sight on a Bb trumpet. Same with Dvorak 9, which has an E trumpet part.

Makes sense!

great idea!

Bb/A trumpets were common in the US until about the 1930s. By then, players were more professional and were expected to be able to play in any key. It does, however, create intonation problems.

Jonathan Welch yes

Jonathan Welch Those would be some massive tuning slides, also lengthening it to where the other valves wouldn't be in tune. Watch the brass physics video for more info

Yes, like he said but add a thumb rotary valve so you can get a 1/4 tone shift on all the others.

Most of the difference is noticeable if you are playing it and because this is just a digital recording most of the true tone is lost and if your headphones aren't amazing then the quality of he sound is even lower and any trumpet sounds the same. Also being able to hear the difference between a bad trumpet and a well made trumpet comes with experience (and I guess you are pretty young lol which is why it's perfectly ok that you think that this thing sounds as good as a "Yamaha" or "Bach" I'm not going to lecture you about how it's not just a Yamaha there are many models of Yamaha made for both students and professionals as well as with Bach trumpets but I think it would help you if you researched a bit about trumpet brands and what models are produced by Bach and Yamaha so you know the difference between student and professional horns as well as learning the ability to name specific models of trumpets when referring to a professional level instrument such as a Bach Stradivarius (the older ones are better than the newer ones btw) and Yamaha Xeno stuff. And if you are curious or want to learn more about brass instrument brands Hornucopia.com might be interesting to you) a long reply and I've spent too much time writing but I was where you are at one point, you'll understand what I'm saying now in a few years much better and you'll probably even think that this is what you would have said to yourself if you had the ability to reply to your younger self. And one more tip before I go, if you do get really into this stuff, at school in band class try not to show off or impress the other band kids with your knowledge about instruments because most likely you will think you know more than you actually do and what you say isn't actually true. I use to do it a lot because I thought that everyone needed to know how smart I was because they didn't think I was smart and it was pretty embarrassing, but it's hard to avoid and if I were you I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just remember why you are in band, it shouldn't be to impress other people, it should be to have fun and you can impress people but make sure you don't make impressing people your only reason to do band. If you read all of this congratulations because it was a long comment lol but I hope this helps you and lets you look forward a little bit into the future (which comes fast so enjoy whatever grade you're in while you can)

Clever!

I agree this is a cool idea, but I think Trent is set on having one of them be a quarter tone valve. You could still do quarter-tones using the 5th valve, but you'd have to compensate for the semitone part -- meaning you have to think of it as a 1.5 semitone valve rather than a 0.5 semitone valve. You can still get to the same destination, it just makes more of a mental detour. Personally I think this might be a worthwhile tradeoff, but it really depends how much super-chromatic playing you do, as consecutive notes will not "feel" consecutive under the fingers anymore. Personally I think the coolest thing would be to take the slide off a "soprano trombone", and just one valve off the spare cluster to make a four-valve Firebird, complete with a 6-position slide (something the Firebird lacks, it has just 4 positions). This would provide chromatic range all the way down to the pedal tones of the instrument, which in turn may become useful themselves. And of course, if you can't figure out how to do quarter tones with a slide, you need to have your head examined.

That's a pretty good idea. I've got a spare flugelhorn bell I could use for that purpose.

Trent Hamilton at that point you could even use that for different mutes at different points. plus it'd at to the maniacal structure of it all.

I really like that because it's like an echo cornet but it's not a fixed style of mute, you can easily change it

Trent Hamilton Yep, good for fast mute changes if you don't have time. You better be in a pit orchestra for that though as you'll look ridiculous. Although I'm not going to say I don't look ridiculous juggling mutes as I am now.

Or add a rotary valve to throw the whole thing to the second set of valves which becomes an entirely different instrument (perhaps a flügel). Of course you'll immediately be taken down by the Trumpet Stand Industrial Complex.

I agree with Ace 64

Or tune it like the 6 holes on a recorder

Or make all of the valves a half step but gradually lengthening as you go from 1 to 6 for correct intonation. It will be like trombone slide positions. 1st: no valves 2nd: 1 3rd: 1 2 4th: 1 2 3 5th: 1 2 3 4 6th: 1 2 3 4 5 7th: 1 2 3 4 5 6 I still prefer my first idea, but if you were making a second 6-valve, I think this should be the other idea.

P.S. I also think you should make a soprano superbone.

Juan Resendiz going up in pitch is a more difficult endeavor, as you need to remove tubing by depressing it, not an easy thing to do the way he has it now

Or even a muted bell, like the echo trumpet

That would be even better!

the layout got a bit messed up though

Fos van der Meer How do you have the patience to do that?

Well I'm very fascinated by maths and physics and this video really got me inspired, and I already have a lot of patience and spare time but also some excel skill, which makes it all easier