the beautiful thing about music is the fact that you dont need theory to make it, if someone gave you a pad with preset chords on it, itd take you probably a couple minutes to find a progression that sounds like it just "works" and for most people thats enough, but for some people just working isnt enough so youd go into theory to understand WHY it works, that way you can create what you want when you want instead of making due with what you have
@@silentfox8 This is false. Just like with art. You CAN take a pencil and paper and make art, sure, that's how simple it is. But to make good art requires intense study. Theory is part of that intense study Like, sure! You don't have to study western renaissance music theory. You don't need to CALL Gm7 "Gm7". But you have to understand what notes you are playing and how those notes relate to other notes. Which ones will produce which aesthetic. Which ones will sound the best for your goals. And why. That IS theory And without theory you simple would not be able to express your ideas without being limited. That applies to not only music but to almost any creative medium. And also to sports, languages, woodcraft and the list goes on an on
this is not what they were doing at all. They were picking good chords. Don't condescend ppl just cause their knowledge is above your head. Gee oh boy a C11 Gee oh no not a sus chord. Lol grow up or learn an instrument.
@@fritzjackson4336 sometimes it's really better to not comment anything. This would've been one of those times. He wasn't condescending anyone. I personally know music theory and play many instruments and found this comment hilarious (because when you start getting to complex chords it literally looks like droid names). Chill bro
As they kept adding chords, I thought to myself "wow, this is spicy. The improv is going to be wild. How are they going to connect the changes?" But I was a little bit disappointed though as they ended up just using some. Brilliant musicians though.
@@IndelibleAndy Agree. I think they take the previous chords into consideration when they put down each chord. So the sequence itself is meaningful and material.
im gonna need an episode where its jacob collier vs charlie puth that would be heavenly (or any one of the people other people suggested in the replies really.)
I was expecting them to have to come up with their chord choices in a flash like actual ping pong, where you don’t stand there like: “Hmm, I think maybe I’ll return your serve with a backhand here… and maybe some backspin on it…” Ooh, nice, I’ll do a lob back at you…”
🤪That would be cool too, and I bet they do this just not always on camera on a production set. But hey, I clicked on this because of the people in it, not because of the sponsor or the thumbnail.
The BbMaj9-dim7-Am7 progression at 4:35 is wild because I was hearing the chords in my head right before you played them thinking "oh this would fit nicely" and then that's the chord you played 👀
I had the same experience. I think that's because there's an implied 2-5-1 (Gm -> C7b9 -> F) that makes this so familiar. (Or alternatively, the beginning of a 2-5-3-6; a D7 would sound right at home next.)
Same thought, but when I heard that BbMaj9 my brain immediately referenced to plastic love. The chord progression at the outro uses the same root progression
this was wonderful, very cool to see some back-and-forth music creation that showcases collaboration. i think a lot of us get stuck in our solo production silos and just want more and more automation, complex features, etc.
Unfortunately a lot of younger musicians won't realize this but the truth is that the technology is fantastic as a tool but it's used as a crutch nobody just picks up their instrument and plays and writes from the heart anymore. Because it's too easy to have everything digitized in the Box.
@@Jaed_Marauder exactly because the computer has made it easy to press a button and get a sound or tap out a basic rhythm and sound like an actual drummer. It's too bad because what should be happening is that you learn the art of music and Theory first and then use the tools to make the music better. Now it just seems like people are using the technology to create the music for them which is why most of today's stuff has no soul
Really great concept, but maybe tone down the EPIC ULTIMATE INTENSITY music between the rounds, music's s'posed to be a fun thing, not a duel. Just a suggestion, no malice behind it, really liked the show itself watching them work together, you should highlight that 👌
Love this idea. Would be great if in future episodes you could break things down a little bit more for people new to music theory. Not asking to slow the process down, maybe just to keep the chords on screen when they jam instead of cutting back and forward and also maybe to then explain a bit more in depth about why certain things work. Really love the idea and just subbed to see what comes in the future.
I applaud this video because as a musician of over 45 years experience and Mastery of several different instruments I can tell all you young folks out there that this is the way the greatest music in the world was written. Maybe it wasn't two keyboard players facing each other over a ping pong table but you certainly had Paul McCartney and John Lennon throwing chords and ideas back and forth at each other as well as many other great songwriting Duos like gambling Huff and a bunch of other great names.
Lennon and McCartney faced off in the finals at Wimbledon 8 years in a row. It was a ridiculous run, at the time. Of course, Jagger and Richards have been doing it for hundreds of years since.
John Horton Conway (may he count to infinity in peace) created the Game of life, the first zero player game. You have successfully created what might be the first zero-game game - a game without any aspects of a game.
RU-vid recommended this, not sure why. I didn't mean to come here and hate. I thought I'd see some interesting game. I did not. That's why my criticism.
I was kind of expecting something else. This felt like a regular jam session where no one could lose. Here’s how I believe would’ve made this “game” a bit more interesting. The server: serves the first chord. This becomes the root tone. We make it simple and start with triads. As the server serves the chord, he/she yells the genre that needs to be played. The receiver has 2 beats to play a progression chord that compliments the “incoming” chord. As the game progresses you add color to the chords and the beat/rhythm gets faster. Although the receiver has 2 beats, as tempo gets faster you get less time to return the chord. Chords may not be repeated until 4 “hits” so to speak (makes it more interesting). A spike would be a run up or a run down.. I don’t know something like that would’ve interested me more. Don’t get me wrong, the chords played here are nice, but it just got boring after round 2.
This is fantastic. It’s a great way to learn and be entertained & I actually like their light commentary about the progressions - it provides context for someone learning 🤓 🎹
Very cool vid. And with the graphics (the chord appearing, etc.), it's easy to see and follow. Although, I wasn't sure about the colors when they were playing a chord. If I understand correctly, a darker green means it will work less with the other ones? And Bryn and David were jamming not on the full thing they wrote, just the ones that fit together, right?
Have always loved reason and always will be grateful for the world they opened up to me. I still use it as my primary daw and since opening up to hardware synths the modular nature fits in perfectly without me having to shell out on Eurorack... For now 😂 But this is an absolute lifesaver during my current season of writers block ^^
This is amazing. I would've watched a 30 minute or longer version of this the whole way through. A very unique idea that I think should catch on across this part of the music scene.
i was expecting it to give the players a 4 bars or something, then the first player will throw the rythm, and the tempo as he throw his first chord Then after his bars, player 2 will throw other chords that fits. If possible / players a re skilled enough, theyll out melodies while throwing their chord. 😂
Hmmm I am not really understanding what the objective of this underlying game of "ping pong" is here. It's clearly not to actually make something musical.
"Let put it in the key of C but goes a bit wild" That's a Pro gamer move right there Also the only reason why I still use Logic is because it display the chords, but I think imma switch to Reason now!
I don't know a crazy amount of theory so Im really only able to follow half of what is going on but damn does it sound good. Y'all are so cool to watch!!!!!
@@tomdone8575 do NOT start doing random chord progressions, except focus on voice leading and counterpoint rather than pulling a bunch of chords out of thin air and expecting them to work like in the video
@@travo6805 it doesn't work instantly but with some time you try to hear what is missing or doesn't fit and you change your random chord to something else
4:35 to 4:40 What's with the discrepancy between what she said and what was placed in the bubble? Very interesting presentation! Thanks! Liked her jamming at the end!👏👏
Nice video. Trolls don’t know a jam session when they see one. There ‘s really nothing like this, not even Unison or Scalar 2, with a workflow so intuitively straight forward especially for Reason users. I don’t understand anyone who can’t appreciate it.
Very good video, first of all... I do have to say that while the idea of the contrast with the dubby transitions is well and good, they are genuinely mixed TOO LOUDLY. Overly loud is funny for a second, but this joke moved beyond that into the realm of "i'm not going to share this with musical friends because i don't want to put them thru that" Just trying to give honest feedback
Clickbait. I thought you were going to rapid fire chords with no explanation to each other. Like an actual ping pong game. "Hmmm... I think I'm gonna serve the ball forehand to your left corner!". "Oh yes and I will receive the ball cross-court to your left corner!" Like come on now.
Interesting. I have the reason 12 full version. When do we get finally some of these new instruments / updates etc. or anything new besides bug fixes? I get it, the subscription push BUT come on. It would be at least fair to drop one or two new instruments also for owners of the full version.
@@somuchfortalent That's ok but it would be good to add some for free as well. That's what i wanted to say. Because i bought the full version and some additional instruments free / new instruments would be nice. But i guess Reason + is more important.
Reason (specially Reason Rack) has been the single most impactful thing to happen to my music creation process since the creation of DAWs. Because of the tools inside Reason my music output has grown has exponentially. It’s like having 10000 instruments, with 1000s of samples and loops along with the utilities and players to bring ideas to light FAST. Best value in the pro audio music /software space in my opinion.
As someone who has never used this plugin before, I'd love to have a bit more explanation of what is happening during the "jams" and what exactly the chord sequencer is doing.
This is kind of what I was imagining. If at the end they had to use the chords in the order they were played, it could get more interesting even if it's "bad."
@@sundrythis It means for some reason, that D minor totally sounds like a D major, but i can see in the video that he's not playing a D major :/ maybe the acoustic of the room ?
Felt like they were competing who could get the biggest numbers and most words and special characters to describe their chords. Felt like half the chords were made up like "major thirteenth sharp over sus minor ninth seven flat". Sounded cool though.
