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World's First | Tailstock Gearbox Machining | Lion Lathe Restoration 

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Let's build the world's first Aftermarket 2-Speed Tailstock Gearbox. We are crazy and we know it. Enjoy watching 500gb of footage crammed into 32 min of solid action!

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@wdbbrinton
@wdbbrinton 29 дней назад
The machining brings back memories I was a Tool & Die Maker for 35 years. Always great to see inventors at work. Keep up the good work.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 29 дней назад
Thank you very much
@jobkneppers
@jobkneppers Месяц назад
Nice job! I have a suggestion which I learned myself. Really simple stuff can be made without mistakes going along. If it get's a little more complicated, as your gearbox certainly is, it really pays to make a plan in CAD or an reasonable accurate sketch by hand before start. I know it's an extra effort, but it pays of when you make stuff. Ideally you only have to handle/machine a part once and when assembled you're done. Off course tweaking is always a part of the process but adding length to already cut plates doesn't have to happen when you work like this. I'm a designer/builder for 28 years now and I learned the hard way. Get an idea, make a drawing and select all the materials you need when doing so. Make simple drawings to print (or draw) for the parts to be made. Make the parts, assemble and be happy. Hallelujah! Thank you for sharing your honest journey! Best! Job, the Netherlands
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks for the feedback. I know it to be true. I just didn’t know how to use cad at the time. Learning the program was on my goal list for this year and I started this project last year in October. I’m already knee-deep and using fusion 360 as we speak.
@johnlee8231
@johnlee8231 Месяц назад
Striving to make a project the best you can is how we all learn and improve. This'll be something to be proud of.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
100% agreed
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Месяц назад
Very nice work Kyle. The design, weldments, fit and finish. Outstanding work.👍👍💯 Thanks for sharing.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Glad you liked it Ed.
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Месяц назад
This is so cool. I love the idea of retrofitting. Nice work, but I wouldn't expect anything else!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks Greg
@19672701
@19672701 Месяц назад
Ok,you just upped your badassery eleventeen percent! please paint this a off the wall color!! we need a double thumbs up button!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
lol no crazy color just white but it will not disappoint I promise
@19672701
@19672701 Месяц назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair White is cool,saw a Monarch over the top resto painted white. good choice
@homemadetools
@homemadetools 23 дня назад
Great project; we don't see this level of work very often. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 23 дня назад
Thanks
@Mr2eyedjack
@Mr2eyedjack Месяц назад
I have enjoyed your rebuild, looking forward to more.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
More to come! Lots more
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 Месяц назад
Fantastic build, enjoyed the process. 🐞
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thank you
@y0taman
@y0taman Месяц назад
Wow what a great video, some amazing machining. I love that you show your "errors"
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thank you very much!
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Месяц назад
wow wow wow...great footage, love the down the spindle bore shot on the Kearny Trecker at 14.44......
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yeah it’s a great shot
@one4stevo
@one4stevo Месяц назад
That's looking Awesome Great job
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks
@DanelonNicolas
@DanelonNicolas Месяц назад
good job 👏🏻 excited to see post two
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Absolutely
@bozhidarivanov9284
@bozhidarivanov9284 Месяц назад
Great job! I have a stock lathe with 2 speed tailstock - Huichon 5. Two speed is very useful when you have to drill large diameter.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Good that’s my hope in adding this one
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 29 дней назад
Great video! Subscribed! Waiting on part 2.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 29 дней назад
Thanks for the sub! Part two Saturday
@stevechambers9166
@stevechambers9166 Месяц назад
Looks good you don’t mind putting the extra work in to get it right 👍👍👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Agreed
@brownh2orat211
@brownh2orat211 8 дней назад
My Ikegai A-20 came with a 2 speed tail stock, comes in handy for drilling big holes!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 6 дней назад
I bet
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Месяц назад
Outstanding work....
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Many thanks!
@melloman8210
@melloman8210 Месяц назад
adam booth, take notes on content creation for projects! this is awesome stuff! I enjoy every one of these videos!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Appreciate that man. Thanks
@richardcorwin1828
@richardcorwin1828 Месяц назад
If there is such a thing as re-incarnation I want to come back as a machine shop. Thank you sir for sharing.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Absolutely
@johncrisman576
@johncrisman576 Месяц назад
Nice work on an interesting project. You have a knack for editing your video. Good story telling.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thank you very much!
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 Месяц назад
That is a great improvement to the tailstock.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Indeed
@stacysimon8864
@stacysimon8864 Месяц назад
Nice job! That's a factory feature on most Kingston Lathes. They give you selectable 1:1 or 5:1 ratios. Very handy feature to have! I use it quite often.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yes indeed. Lots of nicer lathes have them
@elanjacobs1
@elanjacobs1 Месяц назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair even the Taiwanese stuff is come with it these days
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
@@elanjacobs1 true
@eachday5705
@eachday5705 9 дней назад
Fun fact: The North Korean lathe "Kusson 3" also has two speeds in the tailstock: 1:1 and 1:5.)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 9 дней назад
@@eachday5705 very nice
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 Месяц назад
That finishing pass with the fly cutter 🙌
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yeah
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 29 дней назад
Smooth!
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 23 дня назад
19:20 .. That looks REALLY good so far!!!!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 23 дня назад
Thank you
@Dug6666666
@Dug6666666 Месяц назад
Nice work, you are a braver man than me designing something like that on the fly. Looks like it is working for you though. I like your filming style, saves me skipping ahead while people take measurements and tell me how many extra thou's they are going to take off.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Absolutely thanks
@larryperdue508
@larryperdue508 Месяц назад
That's a good lesson to be learned always make some kind of blueprint 😊😊
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yes indeed!
@SuperJaXXas
@SuperJaXXas Месяц назад
Love it! Need one for my G0602 ;)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks
@loganlawlyes1980
@loganlawlyes1980 Месяц назад
I own an old herbert no.2d turret lathe, it was a tail stock auto feed with 3 rates of feed ran off of the saddle feed, not much variety but you dont really need 50 different speeds for drilling. An old lathe but a beast
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 29 дней назад
Wow that’s cool
@gjkozy
@gjkozy Месяц назад
Impressive!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thank you
@stevecrawford1238
@stevecrawford1238 Месяц назад
Hahaha “it’s about to get really boring in here at the boring” but really…this is an awesome rebuild. What a cool idea.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 23 дня назад
12:50 That rubber work mat in this shot, is fairly expensive! .. I made an apartment in my house with a closet turned into a tiny toilet and shower! :) ... I used this rubber mat stuff for flooring! ... VERY slip resistant and with the 1/2" X 2" Plastic baseboard, and generous use of silicone sealer?? It made the little washroom floor 100% water tight!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 23 дня назад
Very nice
26 дней назад
Olá amigo que maravilha de trabalho!!! Acompanhando, abraço e boa sorte sempre!!!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 26 дней назад
Thank you
@ajcawley8104
@ajcawley8104 16 дней назад
Curtis at Cutting Edge Engineering Australia needs one of these
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 16 дней назад
Yeah
@FireGodSpeed
@FireGodSpeed Месяц назад
Finally someone who is actually roughing with their lathe and not babying it. Healthy feed, speed, depth of cut. What depth of cut did you take? 4mm? 5mm?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Exactly .250
@2384SKIPPER
@2384SKIPPER Месяц назад
Worlds first is a little stretch here. My Lathe at work has a selector for direct drive or a 1:5 reduction on the tailstock. That machine is from 1998 !
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
2 speed tailstock are extremely common. What I have never seen before is someone adding a legit one to an existing unit. That is the first. If you have proof of someone else doing this send the evidence my way!
@clarkmurphy6980
@clarkmurphy6980 Месяц назад
Good stuff. That bandsaw was frigging flying though. I’d change the speed on it and it should be able to get through 4130 no issues. I cut alot of inconel with surface speed of about 60 feet per minute.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yeah probably
@Coconut7403
@Coconut7403 Месяц назад
Thanks for using a soft hammer this time!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
lol. This video was filmed on October. I got them you’ll see me use them sometimes. Sometimes you won’t. Such is life
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Месяц назад
Holy Smokes 19:19........that is Art my Friend.........very tasteful and beautiful..... I don't know much about art, but it would look great with my carpet, drapes and furniture........ Seriously, do you have a background in art, because the video you shoot and capture and this or of attention to design and detail sure makes it look that way......Best Wishes from Florida, Paulie
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
No I don’t just ocd. Never picked up a camera before RU-vid. All self taught on pretty much every skill I got. Took a few college classes in welding and automotive but other than that I am 95% self taught.
@silverbullet7434
@silverbullet7434 28 дней назад
Several older lathes had two speed tailstocks. Axelson and monarch too I think had that option. But not on small lathes.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 28 дней назад
Very cool good to know
@HansWeberHimself
@HansWeberHimself Месяц назад
Pretty.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 23 дня назад
I've never seen a Power Feed tilstock .. it would be handy for drilling!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 23 дня назад
Indeed it will be
@johndebrular979
@johndebrular979 Месяц назад
Would like some more info maybe a video on your HBM. Never seen a Mikwaukee HBM.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
I’ll get to it. no Milwaukee hbm your seeing a 4H but I have a Lucas hbm
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 Месяц назад
Wow! You are knocking this one out of the park. Was that a Suburban Tools fly cutter you were using?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yes it was!
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 Месяц назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Sweet. I have been eyeing one. Worth the money?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 yeah it is. Honestly you can also make a good one it’s nothing special from an engineering point of view but it is the nicest premade one there is. I have all the different bar sizes. Rigidity is the key to success though. I use it on the bp mostly with the shorter bar. It works well but is less effective as you go bigger on diameter just w vibration. On the k&t it’s like cheating, so ridged, basically perfect finish every time insert is not damaged.
@romanvarcolac2238
@romanvarcolac2238 Месяц назад
That is no normal roughing end mill. That is a wave-cut/crest-cut end mill. Somewhat rare these days, but really good. Nice to see one!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Absolutely thanks for letting me know got it cheap looked cool
@romanvarcolac2238
@romanvarcolac2238 Месяц назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepairTheir sinusoidal flute profile helps reduce cutting force but in theory should still leave a smooth finish. Weldon marketed/markets these as great for titanium and exotic alloys. Should also reduce chance for chatter considerably.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
@@romanvarcolac2238 great to know yeah I think it was Weldon or another w brand
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 24 дня назад
Please tell me your welding jig was an old, no longer used mill table. A thin layer of MIG nozzle gel will save or minimize cleaning up any welding oopsies on the mill table. Nice looking fab job...
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 24 дня назад
Yes it’s an old boring mill table
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 24 дня назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Whew!! Had me stressin' for a minute, there... LOL
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 Месяц назад
Hell yeh Are you going to get as in depth with that Lucas HBM you mentioned in that update vidya as you are with the Lion? Because this series has been amazing
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
No lol. I wish. Maybe… but probably not this project is 2 years long maybe 2.5. I can’t have my hbm down for 3-4 years I need it to start paying for itself but you know me even cleaning it up will get some upgrades and fixes done just have to set a deadline so I can actually get it running in a reasonable time.
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 Месяц назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair alright that is pretty fair
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 29 дней назад
Excellent Beautiful
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 28 дней назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 28 дней назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Great cool good things
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 28 дней назад
Awesome
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Месяц назад
31:31 is that a Suburban Tool fly cutter you are using ?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yes it is o highly recommend
@jeremycable51
@jeremycable51 Месяц назад
I’ve been considering doing the same to my koping
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
It’s a bunch of work but I am sure will be well worth it
@dimitartenchev9338
@dimitartenchev9338 28 дней назад
Many lathes come with gearboxed tailstocks its nothing new or groundbreaking ?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 28 дней назад
Your right. What is ground breaking is adding one to a tailstock that doesn’t have one. How many people you seen do that?
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 Месяц назад
I enjoyed the video and the machining, but even after watching the beginning several times, I still missed the reason why you want a 2 speed gearbox. Is it that sometimes it does not go the full distance fast enough, or you want to be able to go in slower sometimes for delicate drilling? Maybe it is me and just missing the explanation. Hopefully someone can enlighten me so the reason matches the fun video of machining. :)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
It just adds more capabilities. On most nicer machines they have two speed tailstocks especially on bigger machines. Fast speed helps bring quill in and out quick where as low speed reduces input torque required on handle for big drills
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 Месяц назад
@ 25:50, don't we all wish we could mill like that with a manual mill?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yeah lol
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Месяц назад
22:22 Darn Engineers are always making design changes after you already made the part..... Great Modification........D.E.S.S.A, [Darn Engineers Society Seal of Approval]
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thank you very much
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Месяц назад
16:45 that looks like a Skicut end mill, Putnam maybe ????
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Maybe bought it cheap on eBay
@DarioushAryan
@DarioushAryan Месяц назад
bravoo
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thanks
@SpookyMcGhee
@SpookyMcGhee 26 дней назад
Use coolant or oil on those big drills. You'll cook them in no time otherwise.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 26 дней назад
Yes I am aware
@matthewheaton4421
@matthewheaton4421 27 дней назад
We have a lathe that has a built in box like this. I can push a 2” twist drill like nothing.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 27 дней назад
Awesome looking forward to it
@Guds777
@Guds777 28 дней назад
My tailstock got 10 speed Allison automatic transmission... :D :D
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 28 дней назад
Very nice. That a good one
@mudnducs
@mudnducs 29 дней назад
Why not Vee the plate before assembly/welding?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 29 дней назад
You can do both. V after helps cut into old welds to ensure through penetration. I do both
@robertpeters9438
@robertpeters9438 Месяц назад
What is the purpose of such a tailstock gearing?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
High range for speed low for torque
@Spoteddy
@Spoteddy 19 дней назад
0:18 is that massive straight edge or are you happy to see me?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 18 дней назад
Both
@notworthit1096
@notworthit1096 29 дней назад
Im all for it but is it really necessary?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 29 дней назад
Is excellence ever necessary.
@yelims20
@yelims20 27 дней назад
nice. nothing new about a two speed tailstock, in my 33 years as a Tool and Die Maker, I've used two engine lathes that had this feature.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 27 дней назад
Your right. What is new is adding it to a pre existing single speed unit
@yelims20
@yelims20 27 дней назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair the last one was a sharp brand and you had to get it just right to work properly. I like yours more... :)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 27 дней назад
@@yelims20 thanks
@user-vn6hi2bi3g
@user-vn6hi2bi3g Месяц назад
I always buy new but if you had restored a piece of machinery/equipment I would change and not hesitate to buy used from you. Ray Stormont
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Really appreciate it ray it would be so expensive lol
@user-gg1ze3gt1g
@user-gg1ze3gt1g Месяц назад
Are you no longer using any thrust bearing for the screw to case, as was originally designed? You do not want to have axial load on plain bearings…which is what it looks like you are using. Maybe you just haven’t showed us the full plan yet.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yeah both bearings thrust and radial
@parnuzutech
@parnuzutech Месяц назад
good job 👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@herrherr7529
@herrherr7529 27 дней назад
Our old lathe in the firm has a speedbox in it, so its not the world first xD
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 27 дней назад
A two speed tailstock is not worlds first adding one to none existing one is.
@user-xo5vw9gk3x
@user-xo5vw9gk3x Месяц назад
All the lathes that I run have a 2 speed gear box from the factory
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Excellent. Many lathes have two speed gear boxes. the newer lions come with them as well so I really wanted to add one to mine to bring into the newer style.
@user-xo5vw9gk3x
@user-xo5vw9gk3x Месяц назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair yeah it’s a handy feature to have when you need it…… but nice build looks good 👍🏻
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
@@user-xo5vw9gk3x thanks
@DigvijayEngineers
@DigvijayEngineers 27 дней назад
WHY DO THEY APPLY BLUE INK OF THE SURFACE
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 26 дней назад
Help see scratch pass easier
@georgecarenzo3890
@georgecarenzo3890 28 дней назад
Ok
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 28 дней назад
👍
@johnson2207
@johnson2207 Месяц назад
Isn't every video a dramatic recreation of past events?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Yes
@johndebrular979
@johndebrular979 Месяц назад
You very rarely use and lube or coolant - WHY
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
My lathes are not set up for coolant. This new lathe will be. I got brand new oil set up and k&t but it’s such a mess. Mostly it makes a mess and it’s makes it hard to see on video.
@ryebis
@ryebis Месяц назад
I like that you're building something useful and interesting, but I don't think this is worlds first :) There are engine lathes that ship with 2 or 3 speed tailstock gearbox, primarily to help with drilling operations.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair Месяц назад
Worlds First implementation from single speed. Many lathes have two speed. Never seen anyone add one.
@jeffreyschmiedeck4254
@jeffreyschmiedeck4254 25 дней назад
You don’t wear rings in a machine shop! Even a novice knows this !
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 25 дней назад
Safety police!
@bussi7859
@bussi7859 25 дней назад
Too crappy to be usefully
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 25 дней назад
Your absolutely right
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