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World's highest energy density Lithium Air battery solved! Up to 2000km EV range!
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@mkashay Год назад

I have learned to not get too excited by "breakthroughs" because producing them at scale and at cost is a whole different thing. That being said, clearly, we are moving in the right direction and it is only a matter of time before this problem is solved, and ICE becomes put under the ground.

@spiffdandy77 Год назад

the nice thing about these big efficiency jumps is that the battery can cost a bit more and still be more cost effective

@tycurtin7565 Год назад

This literally is a story from 5 years ago. This IS NOT a new design, just a slight improvement on one. Slightly more cycle life than 5 years ago. Commercialization is decades away or maybe even centuries.

@douglascutler1037 Год назад

Ice ICE, baby.

@chrisnewman7281 Год назад

If I had a dollar for every time, there was a breakthrough, or somebody said game over I’ll be a wealthy man

@douglascutler1037 Год назад

@@chrisnewman7281 LFP was a breakthrough. Maybe not super-massive but a breakthrough non the less. Now in full production. So there you go, you're up a dollar on that one at least.

@thelimitingfactor Год назад

A credit would be appreciated. I spent >$16,000 dollars on that 3D footage. We all 'borrow' from eachother's work, but a little respect for the sources you draw from doesn't go astray.

@chrisnewman7281 Год назад

What’s the URL to your channel?

@saberianamir Год назад

Dayuuuum

@coolranch1660 Год назад

That’s a lot of $s !!!

@thelimitingfactor Год назад

@@chrisnewman7281 This is the video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4-1psMHSpKs.html

@thelimitingfactor Год назад

@@chrisnewman7281 YT may block the video I linked. But my channel is The Limiting Factor and the video is "How a Lithium Ion Battery Actually Works"

@joshuaupham5993 Год назад

So many types of new battery chemistries are being developed its hard to keep track of them.

@lexscarlet Год назад

Like Musk always says "Something something something let's see it out of the lab."

@simongross3122 Год назад

It's going to be difficult to find something that can't be a battery.

@TheJoncic Год назад

I'd be stoked for this but I hear about battery "breakthroughs" all the time and they rarely actually are breakthroughs.

@hanfucolorful9656 Год назад

or easy to catch fire 😩

@alexishart1989 Год назад

Indeed.

@tribalypredisposed Год назад

They are breakthroughs of a sort, but almost always or always they cannot last enough recharge cycles, or do not work in the cold or heat, or production cannot be scaled with existing production machinery, or the costs per kwh will not be competitive, or energy density is too low, etc.

@w8stral Год назад

Yea, just that weee bit of a problem called dirt in said air in tiny passages of said battery.... couldn't be any problems there!

@Harrythehun Год назад

I agree in someways. The “innovation” often is done in small incremental steps. If you take a step back and look over 20 years you will notice that we have been innovating a-lot, but in small increments.

@Paul-cj1wb Год назад

Any battery improvement and advance in their technologies are always welcome and are all great. The more the better. With that said, Lithium-Sulfur has already been solved, and they do have the full potential of 5 times the best current energy density because we already know that Sulfur can store 5 times more Lithium ions than any Nickel/Cobalt/Manganese/Aluminum combination. And the first company to start mass producing them with 3X the current best energy density, Lyten (who worked with the US military on it) has already broken ground in San Jose, California. They already have a 2 billion dollar order from an electric airplane manufacturer. And Drexel University made an even greater discovery (by accident, by the way) regarding Lithium-Sulfur chemistry. Theirs has been tested to 4,000 cycles with very little degradation. That's even higher than LFP life cycles.

@OweEyeSea Год назад

If I had a dollar for every time the phrase "game changer" was used on RU-vid, it would be ... a game changer. ;-) Funny I almost never hear that phrase in real life.

@timherrington1591 Год назад

A battery 4 or five times energy dense is a major game changer, just think of the extra efficiency in dropping the extra weight by making the battery 3 to 4 times smaller.

@jeanpaulchristian3282 Год назад

Lithium air batteries have heavier and larger volume casings so no- it wont be too much smaller- but it will be smaller

@sutherlandshots2954 Год назад

Then you should report it.Why dont you?

@royh6526 Год назад

Traditional Lithium-air batteries have a very precise osmosis style air filter and air pump to extract pure oxygen from the air and push it through the battery. This pumping system is expensive, heavy, consumes energy and provides another failure mode. No mention if the size and weight savings includes the pumping system.

@w8stral Год назад

So, an utter joke... uses air... with dirt in it... So, no you do NOT have a battery at all, you have a dirt magnet.

@ashberger2717 Год назад

Yep, greater acceleration, greater range and lower costs.

@johnbrown4568 Год назад

I just saw two flying cars on the internet...with the highest energy density Lithium Air battery ever! 🤷‍♂😉

@RD-ce6bb Год назад

Believe it when I see it

@boombot934 Год назад

Let's wait for Sodium🔋 Air battery🔋! Yay! Cheap energy⚡!

@Ryan-ff2db Год назад

I'll believe this one when I see it. We've been hearing about these types of batteries for 20 years at least. Getting useable nanoparticle graphene at scale has proven difficult to say the least. Graphene is cheap as he says but contextual usable graphene at scale is not. The nanoparticle structures are prone to impurities.

@catesolarcatamaran252 Год назад

Cycle life, temperature sensitive, C rates., efficiency, cost, ease of manufacturing, volumetric size, shelf live and so on. Many things has to be puzzle together.

@BobLee-sf6mv Год назад

Prototype is easy and massive production is hell

@jannek5757 Год назад

Only problem with this is, that we will hear about it next time about in ~2058.

@richardereed9205 Год назад

The lithium Kevlar Sulfur battery also has 5X the energy density and has a current useful cycles number of 1,000. This would give a Model 3 a 1,500 mile range and a life range of 1.5 million miles.

@greenearth9945 Год назад

Insane

@lildiikey Год назад

Quit ur quick gradifications. Cant u think 4 merely jst 10 secs.... THIS BATTERY USES OXYGEN. WE NEED THAT OXYGEN NOT MACHINES

@jamesw6484 Год назад

@@lildiikeyDon't be a Karen😂

@davidinkster1296 Год назад

The best thing about this news is that it shows that LFP batteries are not the be-all and end-all of battery development, and what we take for adequate today will be history in 3 years time. I still think that today's 'adequate' beats ICE hands down, and I'm working out how to get an 'adequate' EV while on a pension.

@jamesvandamme7786 Год назад

Buy a used Bolt.

@ariadnelecoutre9453 Год назад

"If" and "could be" .... two words that i have seen a lot of lately!

@jeffbangkok Год назад

Enjoyed the good news at Samchuk this morning

@sjsomething4936 Год назад

Even a battery that only survives 200 charge cycles but can provide 4x the power density would be extremely useful, it’d simply need to be replaced every 6 months to 3-ish years depending on the amount of distance a driver travels. Two requirements would need to be met for this to be practical: 1. It *would* require the materials to be recyclable, which would lead to 2. The replaceable battery pack would have to be a lot less expensive than current battery packs, say $1000. The engineering challenge to make a battery replaceable at 6+ month intervals is not very tough at all. It would actually make the automakers extremely happy, they’d get repeated service visits and steady income from that, and would be a lot like going for an oil change and checkup on ICE vehicles. Consumers would be a lot happier knowing if they have a bad battery that it can be replaced quickly and easily, and not have major degradation concerns.

@briannewman6216 Год назад

This technology could be useful in aircraft.

@TheTedkorn Год назад

Has the potential 🤪

@Patriot3 Год назад

I'll just wait to see. So much BS out there.

@Kev376 Год назад

they've been talking about lithium air for 2 decades, seem's like every day they talk about a new battery but nothing is actually being produced.

@danwagner4760 Год назад

Seems a supposed new battery breakthrough is reported almost daily. I have grown to be pretty skeptical honestly and do not believe there will be any significant advancement to production ready batteries for at least 5-10 years.

@tribalypredisposed Год назад

There are significant advancements, as thelimitingfactor has documented very well in RU-vid videos, the 4680 cells at Tesla, the BYD blade cells, CATL seems close on sodium-ion batteries that will be very inexpensive...all of these are or seem likely to be breakthroughs. The huge growth in EV production last year at BYD is likely mostly because of their new blade battery. But as a rule all of these in the lab announcements from people other than the major battery cell companies are BS and will never be seen.

@otron805 Год назад

Forget Lithium. We are looking forward to more affordable Sodium Ion battery.

@Notyou5556 Год назад

Every 1 hr we have a break threw.... oh wait... the potential....means no

@michaeledwards8079 Год назад

with technology moving so fast I think I'll wait a couple of years until these long range cars are produced at a price which makes used car values plummet

@cornelstamate2537 Год назад

its a breakthrough for track vehicles like tesla semi. for passenger cars the current lfp batteries with 250 miles of range are good enough. even sodium batteries are good becouse the biggest scope now is to make batteries as cheap as posible to be able to reach a a price of 25k for a car like tesla model 3.

@apterachallenge Год назад

Since when is an 82,000 pound truck a track vehicle?

@gerryburde5663 Год назад

@@apterachallenge Ever since they put 3 electric Plaid motors in them 🤣

@apterachallenge Год назад

@@gerryburde5663 Well let's just say that track driving is not their main function, but given that I have seen diesel tractor units being track driven, I guess anything is possible if somebody decides that's a thing...

@cornelstamate2537 Год назад

even a 35k usd tesla model 3 is cheap considering the price of gas in europe and the periodic service cost of a ice car you make economies of over 20k usd for every 100k miles driven in a ev.

@malcolmrickarby2313 Год назад

Simple spellcheck error. Truck,not track.🤔

@apterachallenge Год назад

Imagine if you put this lithium air battery in the Aptera. 6000km range? If you combined this with full self driving, you could cannonball the thing from coast to coast without stopping in 24 hours in your sleep. What a concept!

@coolranch1660 Год назад

I’m imagining! I imagine that years from now we will still be imagining this imaginary concept!

@malcolmrickarby2313 Год назад

Imagine an increase in solar cells efficiency or density on the Aptera as well and you’d almost never need to charge so longer battery life. Fully charge twice a year for hundreds of years.

@jorgemach___2162 Год назад

Shanna we need you to get better. ..stay strong

@danielnicholls6868 Год назад

would make air travel much cleaner for 3 to 4 hr flights

@generaclesdey4622 Год назад

Aircraft rely on the fact that fuel consumption during the flight reduces AIRCRAFT WEIGHT, and with that - the energy requirements! A heavy Battery does not become lighter during the flight, which means that enegy consumption is higher, increasing the cost of the flight. The cooling of the battery at high altitude is also challenging.

@borischoteau4808 Год назад

Only for small aircraft... See Real Engineering for the insane step to complete electric air travel.

@MrMonkeybat Год назад

Archer, Jobby, and lilium quote ranges of 100, 150, and 190 miles. Multiply those numbers by 5 and you can EVTOL air taxis with ranges of 500, 750, and 950 miles.

@BuellXB12SDucati1198 Год назад

Another amazing battery breakthrough! Slowly sipping my 9Barista espresso... Nice!

@geoffsimns8424 Год назад

As with all technology, what is here now is not the best - technology improves over time, and in this current age technology has a doubling life of months, compared to years a decade ago, and decades early in the 20th century when technology started to blossom. Therefore battery technology will improve exponentially over the next year, with costs reducing and capacity, energy density, and longevity increasing - expect nothing less...

@investingthelike111 Год назад

even if solid state is better on energy density it still doesn't compete on cycle life and they haven't even go to mass manufacturing yet,

@sigma_six Год назад

Mass production, with longevity and cost effectively... with a 2000Km Battery, when you go to add 4 passengers, while towing a trailer in -25 below weather.. It will drop to only 1/3 range... so that would still equal 600-650Km... Now you're talking... Will believe it when i see it...

@thunderbearclaw Год назад

Some third party validation test results would be good to show specifically related to the energy density and number of cycles to 10 % reduction of storage capacity.

@scottt5521 Год назад

With a much larger capacity battery, an electric vehicle's computer could reserve a portion of the battery's useful capacity for later inclusion as the battery ages. This could give EV's a much longer minimum performance with age warranty, which would be an important selling point.

@Harrythehun Год назад

Isn’t that already happening applied in Tesla’s. Almost full power and about 30 km in range after 0%?

@ashberger2717 Год назад

Wiki says Pairing lithium and ambient oxygen can theoretically lead to electrochemical cells with the highest possible specific energy and would be approximately equal to gasoline !!!!! C'mon Scientists and engineers, crank it up. I'm a retired ginger beer and would love to see it in a BEV while I'm still part of this ever accelerating technological world.

@aifx1379 Год назад

There are many videos like this, but if true, there will be new battery technology all over the place.

@koenraad4618 Год назад

Such a battery in a long range Aptera: over 2000 miles per fully charged battery.

@bjs2022 Год назад

Interesting report, thanks. “Bad sound makes good video look bad.”

@jamesmcmillan2656 Год назад

My 80 year old mother was diagnosed with lung cancer 2 years ago and sent home to die 18 months ago. We put her on Fenbendazole a dog wormer and she fully recovered.

@ssoffshore5111 Год назад

Once again, I'll believe it when I see it and it's commercialized. Go back and look at all these breakthrough videos you've done and see how many of them are commercialized...

@RWBHere Год назад

A related type, Zinc/Air batteries, were around at least as long ago as the 1970's, so it's unsurprising that people have been experimenting with Lithium/Air technology. Great to hear that they have resolved the rechargeability challenges whilst improving gravimetric energy density dramatically. Thanks Sam.

@SWR112 Год назад

Next big thing from the next big thing four hours ago 😂👍

@coolranch1660 Год назад

Yup, exactly

@stevennelson7518 Год назад

Both channels are excellent positive efforts promoting green EV tech. 1 + 1 = 3.

@andrewal410 Год назад

At the levels these batteries operate it completely opens the door for long range electric flight.

@tycurtin7565 Год назад

This is act story was published 5 years ago (Mar 2018) including the same people like Larry Curtiss from Argonne. The only difference was they achieved a cycle life of 750 cycles back then compared to 1000 cycles now. So they have improved in 5 years, but this design is still at least 10 years away from commercialization.

@tycurtin7565 Год назад

No one resaponds to my comment. This channel is total bull crap.

@CT-gc1ck Год назад

Isn't there always a breakthrough? I've been hearing and seeing new stuff every day and still nothing new.

@jamesvandamme7786 Год назад

Most of this stuff is to get investors excited. Blood in the water.

@simonpannett8810 Год назад

Another improvement taking Electricity storage to mass production and use at cheap prices! Exciting! 10 years to commercialization seems too long??

@nielsdaemen Год назад

Can't wait, hope it's true

@stephentroake7155 Год назад

I wonder if they'll manage to do the same thing with sodium

@valkyrie4752 Год назад

What was the depth of discharge for this claimed 1,000 cycles and at what rate and temperature? We had our batteries tested at Argonne National Laboratory as well and it is just a step to quantify some data from our own labs. I had dozens of batteries tested at different depth of discharge and could easily have an end of life at 100 cycles or taking very little Ah out and still going at 20,000 cycles. There are lots of battery "experts" out there that have little or no empirical observations from working in the battery industry. I also would be interested in the nominal voltage at C-rate to gain another data point.

@AdamIverson Год назад

Higher energy density would be useful for weight-sensitive applications like aircraft. Other than that, cost per kWh and longevity is far more important for mass market EV. Let's be frank, we don't need a 2000km range EV for the average consumer. Sodium-ion and LFP looks promising.

@jrb_sland5066 Год назад

As materials science continues to make progress, we are accumulating more & more knowledge of how the real world works. This is a good thing on its own. If it leads to major breakthroughs in energy storage, so much the better. Patience is a virtue.

@anotheryoutubechannel4809 Год назад

holy f*** can you imagine a 1,000 mile range Tesla or other EV?!?! 💪💪

@jamesvandamme7786 Год назад

I never drive 1000 miles at a time. When I sleep, my car can charge. I want 500 miles and half the battery cost.

@PaulADAigle Год назад

Sounds very exciting!

@waywardgeologist2520 Год назад

What are the C rating for the battery and how many cycles can they get out of the battery and the degradation amount? Could one also use sodium metal and air for batteries? If one gets 4X to 5x out of these new cells, it would mean 800 watts to a 1000 watts per kilogram for sodium. It could mean my old 2011 Nissan Leaf could have a 360 mile range.

@ouethojlkjn Год назад

Heard on break through after another over the years - Nuclear Diamond Batteries (no really, they are real), Sodium based batteries, Zinc Air, some other thing that is 500wh per kilo. This is another one I heard about years ago. Usually the problem is not making the batteries, it is charging them easily, particularly in a home situation.

@etienne6641 Год назад

This is great news even still in the making. The Electric future will just get better and better. What about other devices like cell phones and notebooks. Did any of the EV battery technology been implemented? I know EVs have special battery management and are temperature controlled unlike portable devices.

@petersimms4982 Год назад

Batterys, wind turbines and new solar panels comming thick and fast now 😊

@michelangelobuonarroti916 Год назад

How about a sodium/air battery? Any in the works?

@FriendlyDoesTheThings Год назад

8:23 for the point

@ericrouillard3784 Год назад

Nice increase in power density. No mention of flammability - they can’t sell it if it’s burns like à phosphorous fire

@dylanadams1455 Год назад

You could have batteries that are say, one third the size of current packs, and they'd still have half as much more than current ranges. More even, with the reduced weight. Also presumably less Lithium. Now, if they could do it with Sodium, you'd really have the magic ticket

@agoogler1887 Год назад

A good subject 🤓

@RawandCookedVegan Год назад

Great stuff EV. Thanks.

@hallkbrdz Год назад

We need batteries with at least 3x the current energy density to reasonably replace larger ICE vehicles. 4x without a significant cost increase or weight penalty would be a game changer. So, if the time scale hods true, in ten years they will become practical for both daily driving AND long-range towing.

@jamesvandamme7786 Год назад

Don't set your clock on that. The thing about breakthroughs is, sometimes they happen, sometimes sooner, sometimes never.

@sigma_six Год назад

Just remember 1200 Miles range is only 400 miles when you have 4 passengers, towing in the winter...

@veryveryboss Год назад

How could a battery power spaceflight? It’d certainly be an advantage to have high energy density, as you’d be able to have a slightly higher mass to orbit, but you would have to make a ridiculous xenon thruster to get the ship off the ground. Your claim is racking my brain! I’d love to make it work!

@MederNet Год назад

Very exciting.

@knabbagluon Год назад

Every week an other battery breakthrough. Still no products coming.

@moarpwr4414 Год назад

I hope it works as much as I hope any of the developing technologies. I really hope that they can also improve the charge cycles. More cycles will be important if the vehicles are to last any amount of time. I do suppose 1,200 miles per charge would equate to approximately 1.2 million miles, but who is going 0-100-0 for all there cycles?

@cornelstamate2537 Год назад

good point. its a breakthrough for track vehicles like tesla semi. for passenger cars the current lfp batteries with 250 miles of range are good enough. even sodium batteries are good becouse the biggest scope now is to make batteries as cheap as posible to be able to reach a a price of 25k for a car like tesla model 3.

@viadharmawheel Год назад

I would think they would half the battery pack as 600 miles is good enough, and in fact it probably has to only be 40% to obtain it. The key like all new tech proven in a lab is it commercially viable -- produced easily in quantity and holds up across millions of vehicles.

@cornelstamate2537 Год назад

even a 35k usd tesla model 3 is cheap considering the price of gas in europe and the periodic service cost of a ice car you make economies of over 20k usd for every 100k miles driven in a ev.

@moarpwr4414 Год назад

All the economic advantages are great, and I certainly agree with the Model 3. 250 miles is enough for most, but more is better. I agree with making the battery smaller and still having great range. Many economy cars still have decent range such as my wife’s Mazda 3. It can go approximately 440 miles per tank, and it does not have a large tank. I have an EV6 and I can travel EPA rated 274 per charge. I have done better, I have done worse. Usually around 200-220 miles per charge as I am not going to 100% unless I am starting a large road trip, and even then it is just for the initial charge. I would like more range, however I also drive more than the average driver and it would be more convenient for me. I drive an average of 25k-35k mile a year. Having that extra range would be helpful. Do I need 1,200 or so, no, but 400-500 usable would be nice. It would make it so I would only have to stop on some of my longer travels, rather than 2-3 times or more. The nice thing about the EV6 is under the best conditions it charges very fast. If it came down between range and charge speed, I would take the faster charge speed every time. In an ideal world, I would like both.

@ricnyc2759 Год назад

"Never had a doubt in the beginning Never a doubt Trusted you true in the beginning I loved you right through Arm in arm we laughed like kids At all the silly things we did You made me promises, promises Knowing I'd believe Promises, promises You knew you'd never keep" (Promises, Promises - Naked Eyes)

@alexishart1989 Год назад

That's usually it, you're probably right.

@manuelgarcia3348 Год назад

Ok Mary Barra let’s get with it. Let GM be the firs with this technology.

@adrianbrazier5422 Год назад

Great stuff if this becomes reality. Especially for utility vehicles and light trucks for tradies. However, at 4-5x the storage, charging times will be unrealistic unless you have a 3 phase supply.

@jimgraham6722 Год назад

Unlikely to see the light of day in the foreseeable future. Batteries with much higher energy density have been possible for some time. However, they are also potentially very dangerous if something goes wrong. Making them absolutely safe so the manufacturer doesn't get sued out of existence when they catch fire or even blow up, is the issue.

@HygienistDentist Год назад

Hoping the best for your family and wife!

@SteveN-pw4dj Год назад

Good to know... I am waiting for an EV under 20k with a 400-450 mile range...... In cold weather.

@Bobby_Strange Год назад

I tend to not believe conspiracy theories though Burzynski cancer coverup is an interesting story, especially for those told they have no other options. I greatly appreciate your content and wish your family the best.

@kmg501 Год назад

I looked that up, there is a near two hour documentary on the topic on this platform if anyone is interested. I haven't watched it yet.

@jamesdubben3687 Год назад

I imagine one would have to have crazy clean air fed into the battery. Or, contaminants will ruin the party. But, I'm no chemist. When I hear about these very high performance batteries, I think aircraft and supercars. That is the business case for them.

@Withnail1969 Год назад

There seems to be a battery breakthrough every few hours now.

@lildiikey Год назад

Break through! U cant be serious. This shit uses oxygen that we need. Whats that

@jimmydeneus7109 Год назад

💯💯💯📈 tesla marketing

@numbatino.1730 Год назад

If scientists find a way to bottle hype we’ll have an infinite source of energy.

@DimitarBerberu Год назад

Can you comment on "CATL & BYD have advanced with Solid-state/Li-Air & sodium-ion batteries. Recent surprise report that BYD is close to mass-producing both technologies"? Best wishes for fam. health.

@user-pq4by2rq9y Год назад

I would begin to use these batteries on e-bikes.

@paulholterhaus7084 Год назад

I'll just be happy when there are some electric cars on display here in Southern Iowa........Never Yet seen one......Or sat in one or drove one.............Far as I can tell They only exist somewhere out in cyberspace..............Paul

@investingthelike111 Год назад

where is the factory?

@MinusMedley Год назад

Had to play this at 1.75 speed 😶‍🌫

@michaelcalmeyerhentschel8304 Год назад

you should please get GPT o make a table of your favorite batteries, their arrival, their chances of success, and their applications. All these lengthy breathless wonders really don't tanks what is coming with what will work and when. I can get GPT to do that for me, but GPT (and therefore by extension I myself) will have no understanding about what it spits back to me...

@MartinMartinX Год назад

Well , ill believe this when there will be a car with this battery available in a shop and anyone could buy it. :) Till then ill keep my skepticism :P

@dakrontu Год назад

If we can get more miles per weight of Lithium, that will have enormous benefit, as Lithium mining is environmentally destructive, and there is an enormous demand developing for it as the pace of switching to EVs gathers pace. Rather than using the improvement to increase range from 400 miles to 1,300 miles, instead stick with 400 miles, and reduce the size and weight and amount of Lithium needed. For a lot of people, even 400 miles range will be far more than they need except on rare occasions, and providing high capacity just to cope with rare occasions is a bit of a dilemma, perhaps one that can be met by rentable pre-charrged standardised long-journey plug-in packs?

@tonystanley5337 Год назад

Lithium Air and Aluminium air batteries are much less efficient than Lithium Ion because the have to pump air and usually need recycling more often. The same as Hydrogen Fuel cells they are more "fuel Cell" than battery. They don't last as long in terms of cycles (so far), but 1000 cycles would be good (if it is real and not just perfect lab conditions). Making Lithium air batteries high density is easy, its potential is close to the density of Hydrocarbons. They also require ALOT more Lithium which would be a huge problem. Personally I am VERY sceptical of all new technology claims, they may well have some place eg a hand removeable boost pack for long journeys, heavy plant or aviation but I doubt hey will replace current car technology any time soon.

@booobtooober Год назад

Yeah, but I wouldn't say it's solved. 😉 I mean, seriously, there are nearly an infinite ♾️ way of making batteries, and a lot of them are technically "better," but an arguably more important issue is feasibility. With batteries as large and widespread as are required by the auto industry, scalability, longevity, and cost become far more important than power density.

@petervanderveen2340 Год назад

When an Australian uses the terms lithium ion battery and lithium iron battery in the same sentence it is amusing since they don't seem to use the rr sound they both sound the same.