Subscribe or a 3 y/o in a princess outfit will go all "Mode 4 " on you 19:44 Find it here: amzn.to/3giENmc Edit: Since a lot of people seem confused about this, the 2 batts on the IR total *LESS* capacity and less discharge amps than the single HD12.0 battery on the M18. You're either going to buy 1 tool, or the other to do the same type of job, the idea that they can't be compared at all due to a battery difference is a matter only squabbled about on the internet :P
Thanks for the shout out! We were very interested to see the exact same info as you wanted to test so worked out for everyone! Great video, glad we could lend a hand!
if you have the charger one do not use if allways just keep it for highways and while the comprassor is brocken we have the same red gun in the video in my workplace i ve got that chance to try it and know how much good it is but as i say its very expencive and heavy and not stronger than the air one much love
I have a feeling this tool IS 40V, just none of its literature says so. Keeps saying it uses 20V batteries, which it does. Two of em. And it doesnt work with 1. Some retail pages have put 40V in this tools title. IR has not responded to inquiry
205 lbs air pressure, 1" air line and 1" Ingersoll Rand Impact Gun was the best. Pretty sure their are better Impact Guns out there now. Rotary Screw Air Compressors are the best if your budget can handle it.
Ingersoll rand is still overpriced dogshit. The batteries suck, the chargers suck. And let's be honest, do you really need that much torque? And if you do, milwaukee is gonna be passed off about this and make a more powerful one next year that will bear the IR in every way. Milwaukee has a tendency to wanna be the best always.
Here numbers don't lie and well the IR put out bigger numbers. So therefore IR is the best "King" of 1" impacts. Milwaukee....well sad little boys....it's the first loser here 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ru-vid.comUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
I was a kid when they came out but I know what you’re talking about because my Air Force Reserve unit STILL uses those shitty Makita drills in our tool room. They suck more cock then a White House secretary but the people who make purchasing decisions aren’t mechanics. I begged them to let me bring tools from home but you can’t do that in Aircraft Maintenance. 🤦🏻♂️ Thanks to that we waste ridiculous amounts of time removing things with hand tools.
@@mattt4183 yes, the old snap-on Ni-Cd 18V 1/2 was marketed as “the mother of all impacts” and rated at an optimistic 400 ft-lbs. it wasn’t bad for lug nut work, I bought one on the student program.
Eh, has to be more than 15 years. Makita LXT debuted in 2005/2006 and their original compact impact wrenches that launched fairly early into that lineup definitely weren't slouches for their time, they'd probably hold up decently well by today's standards even. Those old BTW251s were rated at like 170 ft/lbs and could definitely get some work done. I've still got a few of our retired wrenches in a box and all but 1 still works, they just don't hit very hard anymore because the spring mechanism on the hammer assembly is worn out. Their impact drivers hit plenty hard too. ~1100 in/lbs wasn't too bad for the time either. edit: yeah. Those old BTW251s were out by February of 2007. So that model is over 14.5 years old now.
Her-"he's probably in there at ching videos of naked women" Me(him) - watching torque test channel in shock that a impact makes more torque than my car
Bring on the Formula 1 pit guns! Give it another year and you guys will probably be testing some prototype stuff built by NASA to torque down bolts on mars.
The Formula 1 torque gun is awesome. I’d love to see that on this channel. The torque guns I have seen at NASA are more linear and not really impacts. I’m sure they have both though.
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@@ThadrinC You followed the link and it's not the latest? The File may be out of date, but there's currently only 1 link. So if it lead to a rank chart, can't imagine how it's not the current one. There's only 1
For a real life test, get a big excavator and test all the guns on the track pad bolts. You will have hundreds of similar bolts that usually needs to be cut off with a torch. You can get a used track for scraps if you don't want a big machine outside your shop.
Would that be a good test though? I figure those fasteners get pretty mangled. Going to just end up breaking stuff which is cool and all but not really the point.
@@noc8076 I'm not concerned with a bashed up bolt head. You can hammer a socket or weld a nut on. I mean if they are messed up and rusty they ain't coming out without heat or breaking them anyway. Which makes torching them from the get go faster and easier than fucking around. And yeah I work on diesel equipment for a living just don't see tracked stuff too often.
Would love to see a comparison on the same excavator. Big air impact on one track set and these cordless monsters on the other. Who cares if the bolts snap.
I would love to see the Airtec Master 35 gas powered 1 inch impact! I use it everyday in my job as a welder on the railroad. They are slowly moving to battery tools but the old moped will never stop aslong as there is gas in the tank! No pesky overdrawing the battery or overheating with gas!
Guy I used to work with worked at some equipment rental place previously. They had a large gas drill for rent and it was frequently returned by a renter with his arm in a sling
yea but nothing really beats the convienience of not being tethered, i used to use a gas powered rivet gun and switched to a battery and it was just so much more convienient
That thing looks like a crew served weapon, does it come with a pintle mount or tripod? Just because I’m a Milwaukee guy doesn’t mean I can’t concede that is an absolute BEAST
I bought a 1/2 Ir a couple years before the race started with milwauk. and mak. I have not regretted it yet. I think it uses the same batts. as this one. 12 or 13 hundy is a steel for what it does.
What puts me off is the batteries might not work/charge properly. You can bet that if you get a tool that ONLY works with 2 batteries, one is gonna give problems. Here in the uk people have only heard of Milwaukee tools at this level, who makes that other one?.
That IR is an absolute monster. It would be great if you guys could get a 10' breaker bar or cheater bar/pipe solid enough to put 3K Ft-lbs on that dyno to actually test a 3K nut busting claim.
You guys NEVER!!!!! Fail to further impress. Because of you I’ve made the choice of two impacts. One for car use and one for my semi truck THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO.
Which tools for which jobs do you prefer? I am a water/gas/sewer utility worker and I am a firm believer in the Milwaukee M18 tools. From their impact working in the bottom of the hole we work in. To their reciprocating saws cutting pvc, ductile iron, and everything in between. Their search light is so popular every single truck we have has one in it, even those that swear the Dewalt tools are the best lol.
You will find that the second tool to market often is the better tool. Just the reverse engineering and optimization advantage that the second brand gets by not needing the completely innovate something new. drills, impacts, Sawzall's it doesn't matter the tool or the brand they all do it but it definitely pushes this industry forward.
@@haydona1845 1) There was about 1 year between them both being commercially available (the MW was not immediately available after launch, it took 4-6 months) which is not enough time to tool up and prove out a tool like this. 2) I will guarantee you there is not one interchangeable part in the two, that's not the approach that IR takes.
Nice work boys. I really like the nut busting test, actually - when you do further head-to-head's it would be nice to see it, because the way you guys did it adds a nice bit of real-worldiness to the testing. I mean when you see the same nut at the same torque come off 6 seconds faster with one gun than another, it even better demonstrates the difference between them. I wouldn't mind a video that's just a "bust-off" of the various categories you've already tested. Plus, think of the innuendo!
Great work at 4:33 to reject the offer of a tester unit. It must have been hard to swallow, but certainly enables you to remove any uncertainty about your processes
@@paladindanse8479 we just hauled a 1.5" drive down from up on top of a control room, thing is 70 years old, gona give a try of cleaning it up and get it working again its completely lubed and free spinning, so hopefully just seals and it'll be ready to go =D
My daughter loves using my cordless drill. I showed her how to put stuff in the vice and hand safety. Now she goes around the house asking if she can drill holes in everything from scrap wood or golf balls to walnuts.
@@MrSupernova111 uh, what? You build respect for tools at a young age. There's also plenty of kids handling fire arms too. I was handling power tools since I was 8. I took shop class in middle school when I was 12 and was working with drill presses and sanding tables.
@@MrSupernova111 I guess I need to back 72 years in time and undo my my Dad spending time teaching me to operate his South Bend Model A lathe when I was 8. He supervised me but by the time I was ten I used it on my own. I wasn't allowed to use the table saw unsupervised until I was 14, but all the other tools were allowed. Bandsaw, arc welder, power hack saw, Lathe, Shaper, Oxy Acet torch (which use for both brazing and gas welding). FWIW: Still have that 9" South Bend lathe in my Shop along with a 12" lathe and a BP clone vertical mill, among other tools.
@@fitch8363 . Are you deliberately dumb? How does your anecdotal story change the fact that many children ended up dead or hurt while handling weapons or power tools? Next, you're going to tell me that you got away running a red light so its safe for everyone to try it. GTFOH
I can imagine being all up under a semi trying to break u-joint(Yoke) from the transmission with the ir and it being less scary than the old tire gun. I've always feared the air fitting breaking and not being to get my face away from it.
Worries me what semis you're working on since all the ones I worked on had straps to hold it to the transmission n I had to take them off with just a 1/2 ratchet
@@benmiller5015 yup even on the 60 ton haulage trucks I work on I only ever need a 1/2 gun for drivelines. It'd be nice for box trunnion caps and scoop z-links though.
I would love for you to do a video about Milwaukee’s OneKey technology and any other power tools that have something similar. The fact that you can connect your power tool to a smartphone app via bluetooth and customize the torque, RPM’s, etc, plus get real-time data on the tool and battery health is fascinating! I wanna see what all you can do with it and whether or not it can be a useful feature for certain tools and tasks. 😁
I really didn't expect the IR to compete with the Milwaukee let alone take it out behind the shed like it did. Thanks for ruining my preconceived notions
I'm just pleased someone took the time to actually test them to see if they fulfill anywhere near what they claim. At least they are over the 1k mark, but I was also surprised at the lead the IR had.
i wonder if the company can paypal or give you a visa gift card to purchase the tool at a store of your choice to test. to keep the bias out of possible factory ringers
@@TorqueTestChannel I’ve never respected a RU-vid channel more for not accepting a free tool off a company incase it is rigged up to be a better one! Hats off to you and your team
Honestly the Milwaukee doing what it did on an 18 volt battery. 12 amp in one battery is far more impressive than the extra torque out of the IR. My question would be what happens if Milwaukee starts dabbling in this flex volt setup type batteries? They have been so far ahead of the pack when it comes to battery technology doing the most out of The least amount of volts needed for so many years now.
Milwaukee really isn’t ahead of the pack, battery tech wise though. Other than being one of the first to move to 21700s, they’re pretty middle of the pack, batt tech wise. Even then, professional brands like Hilti were using 26650s before 21700s came to tool batts. It’s something they use to their advantage, actually. Most higher tech battery platforms have more aggresive power management, which has its own benefits for more consistent power delivery.
Now you need to test the most powerful pneumatic & hydraulic impact wrenches. Pneumatic impact wrenches can still beat electric ones every time but hydraulic wrench are still the king of power.
Really appreciate you not accepting juiced up one-off tools submitted by the manufacturer. Side note is that I would be really hard pressed to spend that kind of cash on a tool ( Ingersoll) to get that torque for long term use in the field. I will stick to my one inch Ingersoll Rand impact which runs on air for now because I can drop it in the mud or sand and pick it up and still go back to work without worry. For me it has to work year after year.
$1400 is awesome, my CP 1” I paid $900 for and I am limited to what the compressors capacity is so battery powered that can compete with it is worth the money even if I get a job after a roadside tire guy welds the nuts on after a tire repair and have to use a breaker bar first, all my other main tools are battery powered except my 1” I guess it is time to upgrade it.
I have purchased some of my Makita tools from Ohio Power Tool, along with my Blaklader work clothes, and you won't find a better online place then O.P.T.
Haven't even watched the video yet, but I work at a commercial tire shop, we demoed the Milwaukee a few months back for ~3 months, we all loved it, didn't have quite enough torque sometimes, but it was nice not having to run an airline around all the time, so it weighed out. A couple weeks ago we got the IR to demo late on a Friday, it was used on one truck then, like one or 2 trucks on Monday, and then I used it for the first time on Tuesday. It stopped impacting completely when I used it, swapped batteries, changed directions, nothing. Imo IR needs to stick to pneumatic guns, that cordless is absolute garbage. Dead after MAYBE 60 lugnuts.
Also the Milwaukee feels way better to use. The weight difference is definitely noticeable, and its not nearly as jerky as the IR was, from my experience anyway.
After seeing this video as well as the new 3/4" Makita, it seems as though the lower voltage is holding the Milwaukee back, who knows what they could do with a 2-battery, 36v setup. As long as it they used 2 18volts instead of an increased voltage single battery, as this is one of the advantages of Milwaukee in that you can use any of their batteries on any of their tools.
Seriously, somebody loan their Paoli to TTC. Reaalllyyy want to see that just for fun. You might consider chatting to Haas and see if they would be interested in doing a little promo video with you in the off-season lol.
One of these days you guys are gonna have to try out the 1½" drive Ingersoll Rand 2955 impact, quoted 4,500 ft-lbs. It might be a while since it apparently goes for around 7 grand and requires an insane amount of air to run... but it would be cool to watch it go ham on the dyno!
Great job! I also really appreciate you guys showing the torque of the lower settings. You mentioned in this video that the lower settings were closer to their advertised numbers compared to what the smaller drivers can replicate. Did you do this same testing for the 3/8 and 1/2 drivers? If so I must have missed it because I would love to see what settings 1 and 2 could do on the various drivers (m18 mid torque or m12 stubby for example). As you guys have consistently proven, advertised numbers are not always accurate. Thanks again for all of your hard work! I wish you continued success.
Planning on getting one of these... I was gonna go with the Milwaukee since most of my tools are M12/M18, but I do have the IR 7152 with some batteries that are getting weak. At like $220/battery getting 4 of them with the IR gun would be nice as I could use them with the 7152 as well. Tough choice as it would be nice to go with all one platform, I'd probably go with the Milwaukee if i didn't already have the 1/2" Ingersoll.
Always educational, kudos to the channel for not accepting tools from manufacturers free of charge. This ensures the channel is free of bias and as you said you're testing what a consumer would purchase 👍🏽
It's not cordless, but I'd like to see a test of the harbor freight 1 In. Aluminum Air Impact Wrench. I need something with some real power for my dump truck and heavy equipment.
@@TorqueTestChannel I wish you'd give it a try. Your air system is as good or better than most shops. I used a borrowed one off a 28 gallon tank@ 125 psi with a 1/2" hose and Milton G. It got the job done but I had to let it pump up between bursts. If necessary maybe add a tank. They say they use 11 CFM. That doesn't require a Diesel jackhammer compressor. Your test data would be very useful. Right we don't know if their claims have any basis in fact. If you really have to, maybe you can find someone who will loan you a road side tire truck compressor with some fittings for a couple days.
The XC6.0 battery is one our favorites. See episode 18 where we test all the HO batteries. Or this 1" D-handles episode where we test a few on this tool for no good reason
@@roycesmart8019 Metabo or Bosch. CAS or Bosch Alliance. Both also have a 21700 18V System. Bosch for example will provide with there ProCores the next 18V Fein Multitool and at least intern there are rumors Stihl will join the Bosch System too. So IG outsource only the battery Support and still can build there own tools
I work at a concrete pole factory and we use 1" impact wrenches all day, probably 1500 bolts everyday. We have 2 of the Milwaukee guns and the guys who run them all day don't like them. Even though they are lighter, stronger and faster than pneumatic guns, the guys that have to use them say the excess vibration fatigues the operator much worse than an air impact.
These guys are not babies they use these big impact guns all day every day. They also have proper ppe provided to them. I was just saying the guys i work with, who use this stuff every day prefer the pneumatic stuff.
with teslas 4680 being in the news, and it being tabless, its making me wonder if the dual battery backs have a higher combined power throughput with the 18650s over the combined number of tabs to carry current vs a smaller number of tabs with the milwaukee with the other size cells. less cells, less tabs and larger diameter means further electron path from end of jelly roll to tab to leave/enter the cell. i am sure tesla patented their tabless design, but they're usually very open with their patents so hopefully we see battery manufacturers head to tabless production where max electron travel is cell height, not 1/2 length and cell height together at maximum (if tab is in the middle. if tabs are at end, whole roll length)
You should be able to send the IR charger back to be replaced under warranty. It sucks that charger was not functioning properly from the factory but it at least changed the batteries enough to fully power that beast of an electric impact wrench.
While I see the point of not accepting anything directly from brands, it might still be possible to make use of their generosity. By buying it through a third party seller and forwarding the bill to them, obviously something they'd have to agree to but its an option.
Why is the MW big red D more value than the rivet gun you showed? Isn’t value generated by the time to get work done since time equals money and therefore comes from the money spent versus speed at which you recoup that investment?
It's incredible what Milwaukee can do with just 18v tools, now. I really do think that Milwaukee is number 1 in engineering and they should release a new 40v line of tools, they probably make an impact wrench claiming 4000 or 5000-foot pounds of nut-busting torque, lol.
Ima curious with the rigid high torque octane test u used a octane 3ah battery does the torques line up the same with the 4am “high output” battery as well?
20 years taking off lug nuts and I can tell you right now that if the extended anvil won't take a stuck lug nut off the short one usually will so there is a difference in torque in that part
I remember back when the phrase "Nut Bustin' Torque" meant, turning her dainty lil flower into GOULASH!! {0.o} 😆😂🤣 JUGGIN' THE DAWG!! JUGGIN' THE DAWG!!......JUGGIN' THE DAWG!! JUGGIN' THE DAWG!! 😆😂🤣
For sure! I committed to the 'Milwaukee battery universe'(lol) a few years ago specifically because everything has said that they have had the best battery tech for a while, and still keeping up when everyone is trying to move past 18v as fast as possible is only proof of that. You also get to a point where 'good enough' really IS good enough, and I feel like the 18v lithium generation of tools was that point - a lot of these guns produce enough torque to snap fasteners & attachments(like TTC's impact driver testing, going through so many adapters) that they're sized for... so how much MORE power do you actually need, do you actually have a use for? And, if you have excessive power, how many actually use features like different torque settings versus just leaving it on full pow and causing yourself some headaches from doing so(I mean, what dude doesn't feel like a fastener needs a few extra ugga duggas than it really does? It's gotta be a genetic problem we're born with lol)? It'll be interesting to see where Milwaukee goes from here(they do have the MX Fuel stuff, albeit the batteries are gigantic...) - but, am I actually going to buy into a "more powerful" Milwaukee lineup? Well, since I don't do steel work on skyscrapers and I'm not a heavy truck/equipment mechanic... probably not lol, I don't NEED more power than the big boy 1/2" I already have. If anything, hopefully a 'next gen' Milwaukee lineup drops sooner than later so the M18 Fuel stuff can be had cheaper!!!
@@RyTrapp0 exactly why I chose the M18 lineup one battery that works in every tool 18v is light enough and compact enough and still competes with the competitions larger 36v 40v 54v platforms. However in the future it would be nice to see a 36v 2x18v for tablesaws and quick cut saws ect Mx is to big but sometimes you need a tad bit more power
Pretty impressive. It'd be nice to have one of these at the shop. Could have used that yesterday. Did the old 12 yard bucket shuffle. Had to get an old bucket on a new piece of gear for testing in the muck pile.
I remember working one of my first jobs as a tool repair tech, back in the 90s and cordless were not something we repaired, since they were consumer level tools. Things did come a long way with tools.
Could you actually also make posters with the tool memes instead of t-Shirts only? Would love to buy some for my shop. Don’t like to ruin good shirts 😂
Tell Milwaukee they are holding their tools back then if its so obviously holding them back. These are the only 2 options on the market, you're buying 1 or the other. They should be compared. Heck, the DuroFix will be 60V.
The only issue I have with the IR is the weight, tried one a while back and it was really heavy. Much like a few years back when Metabo introduced their 9" dual battery grinder, which was also stupid heavy with both batteries in it and sort of defeated the purpose of having a battery powered grinder.
I will never trust a cordless 1 in drive impact as the torque is so varied as battery dies. Sorry I will stick will air. My 1/2 drive air puts out 1500 ft lbs @155 psi why buy this bulky thing.
