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Worlds best battery Aluminum Sulfur battery lasts over 50 years 

Thermodyne Systems
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The aluminum sulfur battery is a revolution in battery technology. It embodies many of the elements that battery researchers have been searching for the past few decades.
Low-cost, long life and a cost-effective current density.
It can work in subzero weather, utilizes non-toxic materials and built from materials that are the most abundant in the Earth's crust so we will never run out of the ability to build trillions of them. The chemistry is also very mild and non-toxic and highly available.

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@dalegreer3095
@dalegreer3095 Год назад
What happened to this? I just read an article about aluminum sulfur batteries developed by MIT and spun off into a company called Avanti.
@davewoodward1155
@davewoodward1155 Год назад
me too wondering he same thing.
@oldtimeengineer26
@oldtimeengineer26 4 года назад
sweet keep up the testing
@gaborpokoradi969
@gaborpokoradi969 Год назад
So, now Avanti will make billions from this.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 5 месяцев назад
Make the cathode plates out of porus pressed aluminum turnings. Make the anode plate out of graphite, carbon fiber, sulfur and iodine. For the electrolyte make out of aluminum bromo-iodide sodium polysilfide in sulfur and urea.
@matejbratoz7872
@matejbratoz7872 Год назад
Keep up the good work, world is already ready for it
@wwabete2009
@wwabete2009 3 года назад
That's an amazingly beautiful work!! Got a feeling you incorporated some conductive/semiconductive polymers (polyacetylene/Polyaniline....) for the sulphur cathode. Are you using a Deep Eutectic Solvent, Aqueous metal salt ,GPE or SPE for your electrolyte ? That's some brilliant work! Quite inspiring! Thank you for the post and keep on doing the good work.
@reevesjustin
@reevesjustin Год назад
I just started this video. So my question may be answered when I finish watching. My question is: Do you have a tutorial on how to build the battery?
@blindliquor1
@blindliquor1 4 года назад
Would that need a BMS when it’s finally done? Thanks for sharing... a 50 year battery would be awesome!
@TheBillythekid2010
@TheBillythekid2010 4 года назад
I really think he's going to change the way we all think on battery power storage 😃
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
How you doing today? It might need a minimal battery management system but not a complex one. The really great part about this battery is that it can't be overcharged and you can completely discharge it to 100% and just start over again without any penalty. If you overcharge it you will lose a lot of water which just has to be poured back in as deionized water and that's the only penalty for overcharging besides being electrically wasteful. If it's accidentally overcharged you just pour some deionized water back into the cells and your back to square one. If you charge it properly at no more than 2.2 V per cell it doesn't even make any gas so there is no water loss either which is another plus. I have even run one totally dry until it died. Then I just re-added deionized water and it was back to a 100% usable state in less than 30 seconds. Then just recharged it and it worked again and again good as new. It's probably one of the most forgiving batteries I've ever used in my life. In the next video will do a 6 cell 12V because I'm ready to ramp up the testing. We started with 124 batteries 16 months ago and this is the only battery that made it, the rest are all dead showing a myriad of problems including power fading and material degradation. With our aluminum / sulfur battery not only did it last 16 months but it actually works better now! Lots of research and lots of luck but we've got something special here. I can't wait to share it with the world but building a battery factory is a very large and expensive venture so I'm going to need partners. One thing I am sure of is that this particular battery system will be one of the most sought after types in the world for stationary alternative energy use and even automotive. With an energy density of only 80A per kilowatt hour you won't see this type of battery in any cell phones anytime soon. However in a world where resources are limited this battery is going to do really well. Lithium's nice and I've made plenty of good lithium batteries in the lab but there is only enough lithium to build about a billion electric cars before the price of lithium gets higher than the price of gold. Even battery experts like Sony and Sanyo realize that lithium ion batteries are only a stopgap and something new needs to be developed soon. Our goal from the beginning was to use the most abundant elements as the basis of our battery and aluminum is the 3rd most abundant element on the face of the earth with sulfur not far behind. I think one of the best uses for our aluminum sulfur battery is storing solar and wind energy to allow the power grid to offer buffered power that can be easily managed by grid authorities or people living independently off grid. Dollar for dollar and amp for amp this technology beats nickel / iron Edison batteries by a factor of 30 to 1 at only one fourth the physical weight.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 4 года назад
Awesome! Good to see another video. I made it to Hawaii big island! 👍
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
Steve, I am so happy for you. I know I have been watching your video's. My friend Gabe makes $200,000 bucks a year selling his home-made Chocolate bars and bulk chunk. Check it out - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5cFhx_myB0Q.html A property with lots of mature Coco plants is a real treasure. Living in Hawaii is wonderful, Aloha my friend.
@crockpot5194
@crockpot5194 5 месяцев назад
Im wanting to experiment Aluminum Sulfur in a lead acid car battery and see how long it lasts!
@MarsOzzie
@MarsOzzie 7 месяцев назад
Very good. Wheres the retail product?
@quantumenergysolutions9128
@quantumenergysolutions9128 2 месяца назад
Well Done very nice! Must it be AL? What if the AL was coated in Graphene ink?
@GreenCaulerpa
@GreenCaulerpa 4 года назад
Might I assume that you are using a deep eutectic solvent / ionic liquid made from either urea and AlCl3 or DMSO and AlCl3 as electrolyte sind it has to have a high ionic conductivity, is slightly acidic because of the incomplete electron octet and hence it acts as a lewis acid. In the video are slightly scientific inaccuracies concerning the general battery chemistry and terminology but overall fascinating that you got such a high power from the device. Does this device exhibit (poly)sulfide shuttling through the electrolyte?
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 3 года назад
No, Our sulfur is in a solid state format. Still testing and motors running everyday so far. It takes years of testing to prove-out a battery which make development so slow but the work has to be done.
@davewoodward1155
@davewoodward1155 Год назад
its all on the news this week that MIT developed ali sulphur baterry.....but you got there first!
@Dc_tech386
@Dc_tech386 4 года назад
Can u show how u made it in a video
@itnepal4535
@itnepal4535 3 года назад
Can you share how you make this
@planeteuropa
@planeteuropa 4 года назад
Bob. Any idea what could be the energy density ( watt hours / kg ) ?
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
Yes, 1350Wh/Kg - Cost, only $4.25 per Kg which is the real exciting point about this battery :)
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 8 месяцев назад
​@@WINDGENEERINGi highly doubt this battery have energy density over 130Wh/kg
@TheBillythekid2010
@TheBillythekid2010 4 года назад
That's impressive! Will the aluminum oxidized? I really appreciate your dedication to your prototype! Thanks Bob!
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
Hi Billy, No it can't oxide since it is the Cathode and cathodes put off H2 or hydrogen gas which is a reducer (anti-oxidizer) The aluminum atoms are in a state of flex so all that can happen is that aluminum atoms slightly migrate around and the plate and gets a little rough looking because of this. We have noticed that the older and rougher the aluminum plate gets the more surface area we get and therefor the more powerful it gets year after year. This battery may not only last 50 years but the bell curve of stored amperage suggests that this battery may actually peak in performance the older it gets. I always like the idea of using sulfur as an active material since you can strip two electrons from it. This is a lithium free battery but here's kind of what were doing but only much more advanced - jes.ecsdl.org/content/165/1/A6058/F14.expansion.html
@randymorales1127
@randymorales1127 Год назад
I hate to be the one..., But letting you all know, the language used here seems so persuasive, and promising... literally similar my third graders science projects. This will be eaten up like a pizza box, unless they encase the whole thing in a hard epoxy. And 60 of those would still weigh 200lbs or so . cool stuff ,just quit bragging about bullshit
@qvivnb
@qvivnb 3 года назад
Any update on how this is coming along?
@mijobalic15
@mijobalic15 2 года назад
Ping...
@travismoore7849
@travismoore7849 Год назад
Try aluminum sulfate battery.
@randymorales1127
@randymorales1127 Год назад
This presentation is so mixed up and ambiguous, it's too bad , because lots of people want to believe about the bus words in the title.but junky video, great concept to encounter in your lab; the sulfur ion questions
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 3 года назад
neat battery..the sound of that motor made me think of a dirty thingamabober if ye know what i mean :} shame on ye lol .now to build say a few 8`x3.7` with huge super caps just fer fun
@jumonjii
@jumonjii 4 года назад
Is this something a DIY person could make?
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
I think the difficulty level is too high unless we do all conductive coating work which is 95% of the skill level. At that point I do not know how much money a DIY could save. Just do not know enough yet. Keep watching the channel for updates.
@jumonjii
@jumonjii 4 года назад
Thanks for the reply. Could you do a more in depth video on this? It's very interesting.
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
@@jumonjii more to come later. Right now were figuring out how to get into full-scale production of 6000 batteries per month to start. It also costs a small fortune to build all the injection mold plastic housings that will hold everything.
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 4 года назад
@@jumonjii give us some more time as were making some minor improvements and trying to put together a production plan for 6000 batteries per month and all the mold making is expensive and takes a lot of time to perfect. We're trying but it's a big job.
@jumonjii
@jumonjii 4 года назад
I understand. I think this really interesting even though I have no idea how it all works. Can this be scaled to "off grid" kinds of things?
@ramprasadjoshi5937
@ramprasadjoshi5937 3 года назад
I think its fake that's not possible
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 3 года назад
All the videos on this Channel is: "run this motor for Days / Weeks" and "voltage climbing after unplugging motor is a sign of recharging". However this Guy never uses an ammeter! If he was serious, within 5 seconds of introducing a new battery chemistry, he would show a proper charge / discharge graph and his second slide would be cycle life tests. It is Very simple to make qualitative tests of batteries, to get some real data. However what he does in several of his videos, is babble about starting production intending to Sell small quantities, so we All know what this Channel is really about! As an example of a chemist, that is not Actually trying to decieve people, and Also has a vocabulary to explain what is happening, Better watch Robert Murray Smith on YT, he is honest about energy and power density and shares every detail openly.
@wil04us
@wil04us 2 года назад
@@Tore_Lund So, He doesn't give away his findings. But he gives many clues. To be sure, he has sprinkled clues all over. Just pay attention. Robert Murray Smith also gives clues, but he doesn't give it all away either. These ideas can spur more thinking, and then you can allow your intuition seek more. Who knows, someone might intuit a better solution. Build on what others have tried ...
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 2 года назад
@@wil04us Science is not about hiding results and making claims you haven't even bothered to measure. Don't compare this fraud (or hopeless dreamer) to Robert Murray smith, who actually knows what he is doing and measures his results. This guy doesn't even has a plausible theory to why a certain crystalline structure makes a difference! "Having an open mind" is just another word for clueless. Also consider if this guy actually has made a scientific discovery, he wouldn't even know himself as he doesn't bother to measure anything.
@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943
@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 Год назад
​@@wil04us he phas been proven right
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