Worming Sheep and Goats: The Linessa Farms Trifecta Method

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WARNING!!! COPPER SULFATE IS NOT SUITABLE TO GIVE TO ANY ANIMAL WITHOUT PROPERLY PREPARING A MIXTURE FIRST! DO NOT EVER EVER EVER FEED COPPER SULFATE CRYSTALS TO ANY ANIMAL. SEE OUR VIDEO HERE ON HOW TO PROPERLY PREPARE COPPER SULFATE WORMER FOR ORAL DRENCH: • How to Make Organic Wo...
YOU MUST FOLLOW DIRECTIONS AND ADMINISTER THIS MEDICATION CORRECTLY. IF YOU DO NOT MIX ACCORDING TO OUR DIRECTIONS OR CHOOSE TO DEVIATE FROM OUR INSTRUCTIONS, YOU COULD POSSIBLY KILL YOUR ANIMAL.
COPPER SULFATE WORMER IS DESIGNED TO BE GIVEN AS AN ORAL DRENCH (ONCE PROPERLY PREPARED) AT A RATE OF 100ML FOR SHEEP AND GOATS OVER 60 LBS and 50ML FOR SHEEP AND GOATS UNDER 60 LBS.
Worming Sheep and Goats Safe, Reliable, and Inexpensive Sheep and Goat Worming: Why we Changed and What we do Now! The Linessa Farms Trifecta Method. In this video, Tim discusses how the trifecta method worming process at Linessa Farms has changed over the years and what we do now. Tim discusses worming with Copper Sulfate, Valbazen, and Dectomax in order to provide the most effective and safe form of worming available. You can purchase all the supplies you need at the following locations:
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@alisonkirton8377 Год назад

Thank you so much for providing this useful content to sheep and goat owners, especially for the newbies! We got our 8 St.Croix ewes in September last year (2022) and right away, I noticed one of them had bottle jaw (should have done more homework and done some fecals before purchasing!). The breeder did not worm at all - St.Croix supposed to be the most parasite resistant, and that was my plan too after listening to Greg Judy! On the advice of our vet, we dosed all 8 ewes with Valbazen and Cydectin together and then rechecked fecals 3 weeks later. They still showed signs of worms so followed up again with 3 wormers together (Valbazen, Cydectin and Prohibit) - 10 days later, fecals showed much better. I just rechecked the ewe that had bottle jaw (It's been 6 months) and her fecal showed a few barber pole eggs, the vet said he saw 2 eggs per slide view, and he suggested worming again or leaving them a few more months as it was not too bad right now. I did not want to get dependent on chemical wormers but it also does not make sense to just leave it, so the copper sulphate sounds like the perfect maintenance going forward!

@LinessaFarms Год назад

You’re very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to leave us this message. We appreciate you taking the time and we appreciate your support. Your animals will get more resistant once you get through a few generations. 👍🏻

@bjmanimalsbreedingfarm4489 2 года назад

Thx so much bro av seen da reason my goats suffered we were under deworming trust me ur da best when it comes to goats n sheeps God bless u

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Thanks! We appreciate you watching our videos.

@geralddunn2654 3 года назад

Tim, Tim, Tim, so much information in such a short time but all of it so good to know. thank you and keep up the good work

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Thanks for watching, Gerald. We appreciate your support.

@PorterValleyRanch 3 года назад

Interesting! We’ll be looking into Copper Sulfate more, we got hammered by parasites this Summer and need a better way to stay on top of it.

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

If you want to read the science behind it you can check out the research study from University of Kentucky here: uknowledge.uky.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1135&context=gradschool_theses

@seairra8455 Месяц назад

I just found your channel and I LOVE it. It's so helpful in learning how to shepherd my sheep. Do you have the dosages of these dewormers for sheep? I can only find a goat pdf on your website!

@tracychesney4336 Год назад

I'm new to goats, coming from horses. It hasn't made sense to me to wait until the famacha checks indicate more severe anemia, rather than nipping it in the bud when there is a mild indication of anemia. The standard of waiting to worm until the anemia is more advanced seems to imply that the moderate worm load would diminish on it's own, but that has seemed unlikely to me. I appreciate the application of common sense that questions the standards when they don't make sense.

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Thank you, Tracy. We agree that waiting until there is a problem is not the best solution. We appreciate you taking the time to leave a message. 😎

@rasanramadhan Год назад

Love your channel very informative ❤❤

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Thank you for watching and thanks for taking the time to leave us such a nice message. We appreciate it. 👍🏻

@Julia-d7f4e 10 месяцев назад

Great information! Could one go straight to copper sulfate with an animal that has great body condition, deep pink famacha but 900 EPG? The goat doesn't show any signs of illness or distress but the fecal came back kind of high... Previous owner used only Ivermectin.

@LinessaFarms 10 месяцев назад

Yes. Since you’ve checked the EPG, that would be safe. We just don’t want people guessing.

@growinggenerationshomestea516 2 года назад

We used the natural homemade wormer. We will be starting with this method for our babies.

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

That’s great. You will see a huge difference.

@xblackdog 3 года назад

In the PNW Valbazen has been a life saver. Barber pole worms are very prevalent here, and they've become semi-resistant to Ivermectin and completely resistant Cydectin. Ivermectin still kind of works at least. My mentor has also said that Prohibit (levamisole Hydrochloride) works as good or better than Valbazen here, but we haven't tried it yet. Many videos ago I mentioned on your video about IM injections, that it helped me greatly. That lamb that I needed help with had been treated with Cydectin before we got him, and it didn't kill jack all (and it wasn't just the P/O fault, we failed to check worm load, assuming he was treated (and like they say. Assuming makes an ass out of you and me)).. So when we gave him Ivermectin he got hit hard by the worming shock. What sucked, was this happened right as we got hit with a triple digit heat wave. Sadly, while he made it through the worming shock and was recovering (thanks largely by IM vitamin B shots, thanks again for that video), he didn't have the fight left in him to make it through the heat wave. Thankfully now, the farm we got him from has ditched Cydectin. Around the time our lamb had his issues, they ran into the same problem and adjusted course. I'll have to look into the copper sulfate. If we keep having these hot summers, the worms are only going to get worse.

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Thanks for the response. Cydectin, in my opinion, is one of the most abused wormers on the market. To make matters worse, many producers started oral drenching the pour on cattle cydectin 5 years ago and destroyed its effectiveness. Cydectin actually used to be an “emergency” wormer and was only used for severe cases of worm loads nothing else would touch.

@Balb23 Год назад

Thank you for this very educational video! It is very worrisome for us to try a new method but we will look into it for sure. Also do you have any videos on preventing Coccidia? Where can I go to learn about this?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

We do. If you type in “linessa farms coccidia”you will see all the options. 😎

@stephaniemorie9923 Год назад

Hi Tim, I am new here. Love all the videos lots of great information. Just wondering about dairy goats, if there are any withdrawal days during lactation with the copper sulfate?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

No. There is no withdrawal.

@pontoon1847 Год назад

Thanks for the info Tim.

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Thank you. We appreciate the kind comment. 😬

@clc7800 3 года назад

Great video. Thanks so much. I have to wrestle with my sheep to inject them. Can recommend something that I could build to restrain them? Thanks

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Usually a chute is your best option. What is your current method? Have you attempted to use a halter and tying them up?

@clc7800 3 года назад

@@LinessaFarms I basically get them down on their side, put some weight on their shoulder and hip areas and when they relax I inject them in the muscle of the back side of the leg. None of my sheep are halter trained. I watched your video on how to get them use to the halter and may try that. I think a chute may be best in my case. Can you suggest a chute design to build? Thanks

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Yes. Send me an email at timothy.ventrello@linessafarms.com and I will send you some plans.

@cherryfarms6890 3 года назад

Hey Tim, can u do a video on mastitis and how to treat, thanks

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Hello. We will try to put something together for you.

@cherryfarms6890 3 года назад

@@LinessaFarms thanks, it’s nice to watch a channel that knows what’s going on and goes into detail about it. Keep making videos and I’ll keep watching and applying it to my farm

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Sounds good. 😬

@akavery 2 месяца назад

I’ve never heard of using dectomax in goats. The label says cattle and swine, is this safe for goats? Also, I’ve read that injecting does not get the worms because it doesn’t go to the stomach. Just double checking before I use this. Thanks so much!

@timlawson817 2 года назад

Do things that someone else has been doing that works good or even great and stick with it . Change is what causes me the most problems . Taking advice from to many people at once .

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Having a mentor is always great, especially when you are working with someone who can show you the results. We are continually frightened by some of the information put out there and some of the reckless disregard for animal safety. Change is something that should be taken with a grain of salt and you should ALWAYS check the source to make sure they know what the heck they are talking about. Even we make mistakes. We do our best to provide current peer reviewed information but it’s still important to check information before instituting change which may be dangerous. With that being said, if you have time to thumb through the University of Kentucky study on copper sulfate worming, it’s got a lot of great information. uknowledge.uky.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1135&context=gradschool_theses

@rebeccaleiting1962 13 дней назад

When starting this protocol. Day 1 give Dectomax, day 7 give Valbazen, what day do you administer the copper sulfate? Thanks!!

@ronnybarnwell7980 Год назад

Thanks for the information. I live in Alabama and we have maybe two week of winter, should I continue with the copper sulfate through the winter months.

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Hello! Yes. In warmer climates most of our customers continue the treatment year round. Even here in our cold northern climate, we treat year round. I would still do an annual treatment of Dectomax and a white wormer to ensure you get everything the copper sulfate cannot. Thanks again for the question and thanks for watching.

@waylinnthompson5975 2 года назад

Sooo I went and did fecal tests on half of my herd(lol that’s 6 of them;) I have zero worms in two of them and one has 100 epg trichostronglye, another has 50 epg trichostronglye and two have 25 epg eimeria. Vet is saying that’s not enough to consider worming. Can I plz have ur advice on this. I have 14 goats total. I’m small scale, but still want the best for them and a healthy herd. Results: Peanut - NO worms eggs seen Blacky - NO worm eggs seen Flower - 100 epg trichostronglye (epg = eggs per gram) No Name - 25 epg eimeria (coccidiosis) Caramel 25 epg eimeria (coccidiosis) Moma goat - 50 epg trichostronglye Wondering if at these rates, I can just maintain with copper sulphate ?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

I left you a detailed response on the Tack Box.

@theozarksjourneytoself-suf5420 5 месяцев назад

Can you advise on deworming a goat that is down... cannot even hold head up.... I have been told they cannot be dewormed in this condition. Just to treat for anemia. However, if i cannot treat it, how can I solve the problem? What would be my best course of action? Since you said Dectomax is gentle, and I do have that... can I give her a full dose and most likely not run into any problems?

@LinessaFarms 5 месяцев назад

If you are sure it is worms, you will have to worm her. While it is true that a goat in this condition can die from worming, if you don’t worm, it’s going to die as well. So, it’s a risk you don’t have much choice but to take. Treating for anemia while leaving the worm burden in place is just spinning your wheels. You can worm and provide support together. I would consider worming with Dectomax or Valbazen to start. Possibly a combination of the both. Reworm again in 7 days. Supportive care would be confinement with fresh water, hay, and grain. Injectable vitamin B, along with injectable iron. I would consider vitamin b daily as an IM injection at about 1ml per 25 pounds of body weight. I would consider 1ml iron as an IM injection at a rate of 1ml per 50 pounds of body weight once only. You can also add some molasses to the water to encourage drinking. The outcome is not promising, but it’s better than nothing at this point. If the animal cannot stand, you will more than likely have to oral drench her with water to keep her hydrated.

@thegreenhealer8400 4 месяца назад

What dewormer can you give to a pregnant doe that is safe for her and the kid?

@LinessaFarms 4 месяца назад

Dectomax is considered safe. Safeguard is equally considered safe. The main wormer you will want to avoid during pregnancy is Valbazen.

@morningmystfarm2017 2 месяца назад

Those beginning products are 1. expensive, I only have 11 goats and also not available or on back order. Would it be okay to start with other dewormers, such as fenbendazole & moxidectin?

@MarilynYoder-lw5pu Год назад

Thank you for the informative video. If I'm starting the program with pregnant does what do I follow up with after the dectomax?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Your best option would be safeguard since valbazen is not advisable.

@welterprado757 Год назад

Hello, great channel! Question; if you are starting from scratch, Dectomax first, one week later Valbazen,and then how long to start with copper sulfate? Thanks in advance.

@LinessaFarms Год назад

I would not wait longer than 2 weeks. Thank you for watching and for the question. Sorry about the delayed response.

@CaitlynKalal 3 месяца назад

Can you give dectomax to lambs that are older but have not weaned? Or do they need to be fully weaned?

@jameswinkler9437 3 месяца назад

I also am new goats, I have three Nigerian dwarf goats after watching your video I looked at the eyelid of my littlest goats about 4 to 5 months old and it is gray he definitely needs worming the other two is about 8 months old what would you start with the worm them?

@deborahmillar7589 3 месяца назад

Can you do Ivermectin and Safeguard first instead of the detomax and valbasen?

@carasmith1259 Год назад

Just curious if prohibit would be considered a clear wormer and an option instead of Dectomax? Trying to understand the differences in the wormers

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Prohibit and Dectomax are not similar. Prohibit is a brand name for a deworming medication containing the active ingredient levamisole, commonly used to treat internal parasites in livestock and pets. Dectomax, on the other hand, is a brand name for a veterinary product that contains doramectin, used to treat and control various internal and external parasites in animals. While both are used in veterinary medicine, they have different active ingredients and purposes. I like the overall effectiveness of Dectomax and it seems to be a little more gentle while still doing the job. When it comes to plain old barberpole worm, they will both work. If treating anything external, prohibit just won’t work well. I also like injection meds like Dectomax. I can dose it more precisely and I know they are getting all of it. Haven’t had an animal spit out a shot yet. 😬

@andreakildow1384 4 месяца назад

Tim so I noticed in one of your videos you had mentioned that if a sheep or goat has a massive worm load to treat with antibiotics with the deworming? Also giving a shot of high complex vitamin b? How many days do you recommend on giving the vitamin b shot consecutively?

@LinessaFarms 4 месяца назад

If you have an animal that is sick due to worms, the worming can sometimes take them out. We usually will give a single course of antibiotics as directed along with injectable iron and injectable b vitamin complex. The iron is usually given once. The b vitamin can be given up to once per day as needed. Excess b vitamins are cleared by the body through the urine. I wouldn’t go nuts but with a sick animal you can do once a day.

@dawsonrichter215 Год назад

How often would you give a maimtaince dose to your animals of copper sulfate? As needed or do you stick to a schedule?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

We are currently using it every 3 months. We have been very dry this year. I have given it as often as every 2.

@NataliaLissa 10 месяцев назад

Hello Tim. Could the correct dose be given with a Dosatron dispenser? It is the one used to medicate chickens orally and with water. I have 700 sheep and it is a bit complicated to dose 100 ml to each one

@LinessaFarms 10 месяцев назад

Ooof… yeah. I can imagine that would be a problem. I can only pass along to you what the clinical research shows. It appears, the 1% solution is key to giving them the protection without putting them at risk for increased copper exposure. I don’t know if there is a good work around for this and I wouldn’t want you to have any issues. The large bolus plays a role in providing enough surface area exposure to treat the worms as well… that’s the best info I can give you at this time. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.

@saintmaxmedia2423 10 месяцев назад

what do you think about liquid fenbendazole for oral administration? appreciate your input. Eva

@LinessaFarms 10 месяцев назад

Safeguard is a good wormer for GI parasites to include tape worms. For tape worms, this is one of your only choices (along with valbazen). For GI parasites other than tape worms, there are better medications. Safeguard doesn’t seem to work as well as it once did. Many folks are having to dose much higher than advised in order to see effective results.

@leighannsears1028 Год назад

I’ve completed the fecal test you teach and would like to know your definition of small, medium, and heavy wormload in epg amounts. I want to make sure I don’t dose copper sulfate when the numbers are too high/heavy. Thank you!

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Hello. The description of our video about how to do a fecal egg count has the specific numbers. 👍🏻

@leighannsears1028 Год назад

Thank you!

@jswhosoever4533 Год назад

The dectomax at TSC says it's only for cows and swine. Is there a different kind for goats?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Injectable Dectomax is used extra label for sheep and goats.

@stacyboyett2823 6 месяцев назад

Hi Tim! Thanks for alllll of the video's. I have a question. I have a ewe that i planned on butchering after her babies are weaned. This morning i noticed she has bottle jaw. My question is, can we still butcher her for food? I dewormed her with Valbazen almost 3 months ago when she had her lambs.

@LinessaFarms 6 месяцев назад

I would advise giving her some time to get the valbazen out of her system and ensure she is healthy before butchering. This is my opinion.

@travishoeffel6082 7 месяцев назад

Why not just give a smaller dose of copper sulfate to prevent working shock?

@LinessaFarms 7 месяцев назад

All drugs have a “therapeutic window” on one end of the window is the dose required to treat and on the other end of the window is a potentially lethal dose. We can use Tylenol as an example. Without reaching a certain dose, the effects are not strong enough to give pain relief. If too high of a dose is given, it can cause liver failure. The area between giving relief of a headache and causing harm is the therapeutic window. Some drugs are “safer” than others and have very large therapeutic windows. Some drugs are more dangerous and have very small therapeutic windows. Copper sulfate is a drug that has a very small therapeutic window. Copper sulfate works through direct action and contact with the worms. The dose needed to work is relatively close to the dose that would cause harm. Unfortunately, giving a sub-therapeutic level of copper sulfate would more than likely give no results as apposed to lesser results. Fair question. Thank you for asking.

@melissad.6231 2 года назад

Just now watching this video. Can I start copper sulfate after having used ivermectin or cydectin? Or do I need to use the dectomax and valbazen first?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

The main concern is giving copper sulfate to unwormed animals because the copper sulfate can be a bit strong if the animal has a large worm burden. If you feel the animal has been wormed and is relatively healthy, this is a good time to start your copper sulfate regiment. From that point forward, so long as you don’t let them get a heavy worm load, you should be able to stick to the copper sulfate. Now, if you should have one slip through the cracks and get bad on you, we would advise giving a more gentle wormer before jumping back to the copper sulfate.

@alvarohernandez9983 2 года назад

What are some good wormers for pregnant and lactating ewes

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Hello, Alvaro. You will want to avoid prohibit and valbazen. If your ewes haven’t been broken in on copper sulfate, I would not advise starting them on it until you have them wormed with something more gentle. I would consider Dectomax or ivermectin. You can also use safeguard. Everything is going to have withdrawal times if you are consuming the milk or meat so make sure you read the label. 👍🏻

@alvarohernandez9983 2 года назад

@@LinessaFarms As always I appreciate all the knowledge that you give. Thank you Tim

@spoolsandbobbins Год назад

Tim, Do you continue your copper sulphate schedule with your pregnant ewes? Your input is appreciated!!

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Yes. You can safely do this if needed.

@SharonNichols-np9km 4 месяца назад

I have a doe that is soon to kid out. At least in two weeks. Any reason why I shouldn't worm her with the copper sulfate? Would it be safe?

@marilynhanson655 2 года назад

How soon after the initial Dectomax and Velbezen do you use the copper sulfate?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Within a few weeks. Our goal is to get them started on it while they are adequately wormed. This way they can get acclimated to it without having to worry about too strong of a response.

@jeanettewestover Год назад

Thanks for all of this info, I believe my sheep will lamb end of March, beginning of April 2023 ... will this protocol be safe, during last month of pregnancy ... I did worm early Feb with safe- guard girls are under 150lb... have goats that are 2 weeks a head of sheep so maybe middle of March birthday.... should I sit tight or worm them , 🤔 I use garlic 1 once a month . For a week ....

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Garlic does help with some specific worms but is difficult to control the exact dose. Unfortunately there isn’t a lot of specific studies showing how well it works and for what specific parasites. The other problem with garlic is it’s blood thinning properties. Garlic is a moderately powerful blood thinner and needs to be respected in that regard. I would personally wait until she lambs and start your worming protocol then. Many large scale producers worm in the lambing jug. As a matter of fact a very large producer we just interviewed who gives a shot of Dectomax to his ewes the same day they lamb. If you start our protocol, I personally would stop the garlic.

@SpearFamilyFarm 2 года назад

After the decomax and Val, how long do you wait till you use the copper

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Hello and thanks for watching our videos. I have seen you show up recently and appreciate you taking the time to ask a question. You could safely start dosing them with the copper sulfate mixture immediately however there is no reason to do this. To answer your question appropriately, I will pose another question to you. If you can tolerate worming them with copper sulfate monthly, I would do so. If you just don’t feel that will work for you realistically on your farm you could do it every other month to every 3 months depending on how things are looking. Here are our thoughts: every month is about as excessive as we are willing to get. We look at any parasite as a burden on the animal and on our pocket book. When we are feeding our livestock, we want all that money to go into the animal and none to go to the parasites. Anything we can do to help boost feed conversion always helps. With our show lambs, we will worm them with copper sulfate every week. With our general flock, we worm with copper sulfate monthly. The great/best part about the copper sulfate is there is no resistance so you don’t have to worry about giving it too often. As you know, you could never get away with monthly worming with chemical wormers. So, that’s a long answer. The short answer is, worm them at least every 3 months and every month if you can. 😬

@brittanyash8340 2 года назад

Is there a way for us to use a smaller dose to get our sheep started with the copper sulfate? Instead of doing a whole dose, could we do maybe a quarter dose?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Hello, Brittany and thank you for watching our videos. We appreciate you taking the time to ask a question. We would strongly encourage you to use the medication as directed. We get asked a lot of questions about changing the amount, concentration, and dosages. The amount of liquid and dosage concentration are both important factors when it comes to the medication working correctly. For instance, people ask a lot, can I just give the same amount of copper sulfate in a smaller dose (double the concentration). The large dose is annoying to many people. Unfortunately, the large volume is needed in order to wash the stomach and intestinal lining appropriately. We just go off what the university’s say they do and advise. We aren’t really qualified to change things up. Hopefully this helps. In the end, use the 50ml per head for the youngsters and the 100ml per head for the adults. If it’s too difficult to do it as advised, there are still some really good wormers out there that use different/smaller dosages.

@tonyrodriguez6869 2 года назад

Timmy what kill my goats? They scours nothing could stay in their stomach and die really skinny. Please

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

More than likely you are dealing with coccidia. There is a chance it could be worms as well. If the poop is green/foul smelling, it could be ecoli. I have included a video for you to watch regarding coccidia. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Ow1VQpQqfg.html

@bdorman2004 Год назад

Will copper sulfate be effective against coccidia?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

No.

@waylinnthompson5975 3 года назад

Tim… Is there something effective like this for lice in goats? I feel this method will get the worms, parasites but what about the lice?

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

Hello, Waylinn. Unfortunately, this isn’t a good option for lice. While Dectomax can help treat lice and keds your best option is to stick with Cylence.

@debbieweathers658 Год назад

Is a cattle wormer block safe for sheep

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Generally speaking, no. The dosage of medication will probably be too high and it can possibly contain copper.

@terril2643 2 года назад

What would you recommend for first trimester? I'm dealing with barberpole again. Dectomax and safeguard? I know safeguard is pretty useless but am still dealing with a nightmare here

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

I’m sorry you’re having problems with worms. You may have an issue with re-infestation or you may have resistant worms. We do not advise copper sulfate for animals with a heavy worm load. If what you’re trying doesn’t seem to be working, I would try something else. I know that may not sound helpful but it’s the best I can offer at this time. You may need to try a completely different wormer. You may need to completely change out all the bedding in your areas, possibly change the way you’re feeding, take a look at the hay you’re feeding and where it’s coming from, etc… try to take a look at your methods and see if there is something you’re missing. Dectomax is usually pretty effective. Make sure you aren’t looking at a different parasite like lice, tape worms, etc…. Keep us posted.

@terril2643 2 года назад

@@LinessaFarms Thank you Tim. The lab mess has me barely coming out of the crazies.

@terril2643 2 года назад

@@LinessaFarms I cleaned pens after cocci report, picking up berries as much as possible etc but then... Barberpole too. I'm not sure what to use of follow up fecal still has barberpole... I had shock in all three milk does from ivermectin and safeguard. This dual worming is what the universities are teaching when one stops working. With the lab only reporting cocci they've been in dire straights with loads. So have I knowing something is not right and taking fecals back again for clarity and retest. The girls are ok today but it's been a long several days of hydrating, warming, red cell, B complex injections and antibiotic injections. I started antibiotics when temps dropped on them. Heck I thought possible silent pneumonia till I saw your video. Glad I started the antibiotics even tho they got drenched with goat drench in some of the water. SMH

@jacquelineroi7986 5 месяцев назад

There is nothing on your website for dosages for baby goats regarding the dectomax and they have a pic of a cow and pig on the bottle, not goats? i sent you a message but nobody has returned my email HELP I want to be sure my goats are safe and need to know the dosage for them to inject 2 baby goats NEWBIE please help

@LinessaFarms 5 месяцев назад

We emailed you a response. “Nobody has returned my email”… we responded to you in an hour.

@sjackson1990 2 года назад

Can you use 1% formula that you describe in your video for dairy goats in milk?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Yes.

@melissamurphy1569 Год назад

Thank you for video! So I am going to do this with my dairy goats. They are pregnant now, so is it safe to start this after they kid? We dam raise but also milk, is there a milk hold?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

You cannot use Valbazen on pregnant ewes or does. As far as copper sulfate is concerned there is no detectable absorption by the mom and therefore no meat or milk withdrawal time. Almost all chemical wormers have meat and milk withdrawal time, so anything other than the copper sulfate, you will have to research the specific medication. All manufacturers are required to list withdrawal times on the bottle or online.

@selfreliantfarmer 6 месяцев назад

@@LinessaFarms Hi, I cant find anything on milk withdrawal time for Dectomax for the life of me. Do you happen to know off the top of your head? Im in a similar situation as this person. Thanks

@LinessaFarms 6 месяцев назад

@@selfreliantfarmer 70 days for sheep and goats intended for meat. Hope this helps.

@selfreliantfarmer 6 месяцев назад

@@LinessaFarms You cant find anything for milk withdrawal either then? The milk is intended for human consumption.

@LinessaFarms 6 месяцев назад

@@selfreliantfarmer unfortunately, it’s not labeled for use in lactating animals so there isn’t any info available on this. I apologize if that was your original question.

@racheltate1849 2 года назад

How long have you been using this method on your goats?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Hello, Rachel. This will be our 4th year.

@bobbywalden1981 2 года назад

The valbazen at our tsc says for cattle,will that be the same or is there one specific for sheep?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Hello, Bobby. Hope all is well. Most valbazen bottles will state they are for cattle, sheep, and goats. You will have to read the label and see what it tells you. Most bottles will have a dosing schedule listed on the back for all 3 species. I have included a link to show you what the product usually looks like. If your local store doesn’t carry this, you can get it here www.premier1supplies.com/p/valbazen?criteria=+Valbazen&species_id=0&cat_id=0

@bobbywalden1981 2 года назад

@@LinessaFarms thank you sir.

@codymaltzman945 2 года назад

How far ahead of placing ewes in with buck for breeding is best for this trifecta . I’ve just ordered and will be starting from scratch on this...

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

I would start cleaning them up immediately. Once you get them going on copper sulfate, you can just maintain. The only thing you can’t give a pregnant ewe or doe is valbazen so you’ll want to make sure you’re past that step once it’s breeding time.

@codymaltzman945 2 года назад

Thank you and I appreciate all of the time and care you are giving to help manage this thank you

@cuprak64 Год назад

Where do I find the mix ratio ?

@LinessaFarms 11 месяцев назад

If you are asking about the shredded beet pulp to water ratio, it’s 1 part beet pulp to 2 parts water.

@TheAsSalamAlaikumRevolution 3 года назад

Pond treatment? Do you put it in their drinking water?

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

No, we do not put it in their drinking water. We Included a link in the video where we discuss this. Copper sulfate is indeed used to control algae. It is also used in antibacterial medications, intra uterine devices, and as anti parasitic medication. It has lots of uses.Copper sulfate has been used effectively against parasites for hundreds of years. It fell out of use when pharmaceutical options came about. As stated in the video, it is not effective against tape worms. If you are up for a read, there was quite a lengthy university study discussing all of this. uknowledge.uky.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1135&context=gradschool_theses Please watch our other videos on copper sulfate worming and how to make your own. They should answer all of your questions.

@TheAsSalamAlaikumRevolution 3 года назад

@@LinessaFarms Thanks. Will do.

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

If you have any questions, just let us know. We’ve been using it for a few years now and have had very very good results. 😬

@reneaeller6791 Год назад

Can I start this process right after kidding?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Yes you can.

@AndreaS-ks5dv Год назад

Everything I have read says do not use on lactating does. Is that only for milk consumption? Label says not to even give to dairy cows over 20 months of age ever. Really would like to hop on board this schedule, but want to double check first

@selfreliantfarmer 6 месяцев назад

@@AndreaS-ks5dvSame here. I asked him in another thread, too. Does anyone know withdrawal time in milk for human consumption after using Decto? Valbazen is pretty easy to find.

@waylinnthompson5975 3 года назад

Wondering if anyone from Canada has purchased Val basin from Premier?

@muneebahmed2022 3 года назад

How to join that farm?

@LinessaFarms 3 года назад

facebook.com/groups/linessafarmsllc/

@erinhiggins8619 2 года назад

is there anything recommended when a goat is down and really sick? we have been doing worming and antibiotics along with red cell.

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

That’s a tough one, Erin. Sometimes when they are really down it is a mixture of multiple things. You can try to add some electrolytes to her water. The old vet friend of mine always said when he couldn’t figure out what was happening he would go with antibiotics, dexamethasone, and vitamin B. Sometimes we just call the vet. It’s tough. We will be rooting for you. Please keep us posted.

@rodtisdaletisdale8562 2 года назад

what is the dosage for the COPPER SULFATE?

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

This video will show you how to make the copper sulfate mixture correctly. The dosages are listed in the video description. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7KqE7DNjTc0.html

@peteroliver5396 2 года назад

Hi, I am in Australia and enjoy your videos. I have read the paper on the copper sulfate solution and it seems to indicate that it is only effective on the Barbers Pole worm. Is it correct that it does not control the brown stomach worm or the black scour worm which are major problems here. Also, is this solution safe to use in standard drench guns, I use the NJ Phillips gun.

@LinessaFarms 2 года назад

Hello Peter. Thanks for watching our videos. The study only looked at barbers pole worm but it is effective against all common stomach worms with the exception of tape worms. I use it in my drench gun with no problem. As long as your drench gun will handle the amount you need, you will be fine…. Or you will have to give multiple drenches. It has been my experience that the copper will slightly fall out of solution after it has been sitting for long periods of time. I give my mix a good shake often when using. I also have noticed it works really really well to the point if you have a sick animal with worms be very very cautious. I almost prefer to only give this as maintenance dosing. I have killed animals with severe worm loads.

@Salomaeful 2 года назад

Hey Peter, I'm in Australia, down in North East Victoria with a small farm running dairy goats and sheep - I offer free choice copper sulphate mixed with dolomite lime, elemental sulphur and seaweed meal as per Pat Coleby's recipe and have had no worm issues for 4 years. My animals also have access to high tannin browse from chestnut and wattle trees. Recipe is 1kg dolomite 160g copper sulphate 160g sulphur 160g seaweed meal (I use double seaweed) I also offer free choice bicarb and straight dolomite I then use mineral salt licks for goats and sheep separately Barber's pole is rife up here with a neighbour loosing 12 goats over the past 3 years despite heavy drench use I recently received a billy goat with a persistent black scour worm issue, he was drenched prior to arrival but I introduced him to the minerals and after a couple months he's come good with no signs of worm load in my girls (he was quarantined first). Hope that helps

@annkat893 11 месяцев назад

@@Salomaefulhello one year on I wonder if you’ll respond. I’ve been giving copper sulphate as per Pat Coleby in soaked barley. Vets are screaming this is blue murder. I have a worm load in my goats atm, not yet differentiated but looks like bp. Does it continue to work for you? Also Aussie and very confused atm.

@Salomaeful 11 месяцев назад

@@annkat893 hi, yup I gave up on the mineral mix when I lost access to a heap of land and so I've been using copper sulphate exactly as described here, making it fresh and using a drench gun However because I've too many goats in too small an area briefly to break the cycle I followed the trifecta method linessa farm had a video on - using dectomax and....whatever wormer I had and then copper and it was literally a life saver Watch that video for sure and I'm in North East Victoria - near Albury Wodonga - I hope you're close as I have insane amounts of dectomax left because it's only sold for cattle here and I'd love to share Plus I could show you how to do the copper drench

@annkat893 11 месяцев назад

@@Salomaeful shame no I’m in northern NSW. I’ve seen that video. And will follow the procedure once I get my goats egg counts down. Hopefully won’t kill them. I’m a newbie and very nervous. Drenching tomorrow

@laneahclark6567 Год назад

This video is a year old. Is this still the method you recommend?

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Yes. We have been using this method for a number of years now along with multiple other farms.

@terencechandler845 Год назад

Just feed your goats and sheep a mineral salt brick they get vital minerals and copper is added. Make sure you get the one that's good for both goats and sheep if you have both in the paddock. Too much copper can kill sheep.

@LinessaFarms Год назад

Please don’t feed you sheep or goats block minerals. They are horrible on their teeth. Sheep and goats should have a free choice loose mineral when possible. The copper we are talking about in the video is not intended to be used as a nutritional form of copper and if given as we direct, it will not be absorbed at levels which are dangerous to sheep. If you have any questions regarding this, please refer to the University of Kentucky study we include in the video description.

@andaazsiddiqui9056 2 года назад

How much to give 100lb goat copper sulfate and ivermecrin can give oral or inject is better

@Accumulator1 Год назад

Volume too low. Difficult to hear it. This concept of deworming is interesting.

@LinessaFarms Год назад

You may need to adjust your volume. The interview is done with a microphone, we just checked it just to make sure and could hear it in the next room with the volume turned up on a phone.