Worst Levels Ever # 12 Extra 

He gets thicc in Binding Blade as well. Seriously he looks so wise on that portrait.

@@juicedkpps His Growths are godly on Binding Blade!

Too bad they're practically useless.

You just made me realize Merlinus is the Tails of Fire Emblem

I never though of that point, lololol

@@brasilballsNew Series: Merlinus Abuse

Kecleon: lol no

Luigiofthegods Luigiofthegods Well, it's kinda possible. Wait for the thief to steal it, kill him and hand it over to a magic user in range

Luigiofthegods lol the first few times I tried this level on hector mode. he literally died at turn 4-5 because jaffar couldn't survive for 2 turns which allowed the enemy units quickly advance up and Kill him.

lol, that's awesome, never made that connection

RealityMasterRogue Just sacrifice Hector to give him Distant Counter :^)

Just like Hector can't survive against Red Mages (most of the time), I think Zephiel will suffer the same fate

BleachLover 666 it's funny because hector died for zephiel's ambitions

BleachLover 666 Wha- That's... How that fits is just perfect!

Nice to see that i'm not the only one here who likes bald men who can't count :3

Captain Karnage Lalalalalalala

PUGI PUGI PUGI

I may call Lyn on you

Captain Karnage that would make you one of those soldiers that die in two hits

forget about that how do archers shoot through walls?

Don't forget about bows

@@dmas7749 Path of Radiance logic doesn't let you snipe through walls.

@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx well thats interesting

@@dmas7749 But Bolting can...

Saving that Zephiel Is a pain in the ass I hate summer

Well nothing in here Is realistic anyway So it don’t matter

sophia?

(Quick search on Google) Yes, that one. My memory is quite messy.

You use Sophia? Woah, you must have a huge amount of patience.

Well, as I said I have zero problem using savestates. I just fed her some deaths (She gains 50 exp with each one) and by the time the chapter ended she was a dozen levels higher and surprisingly competent. I tend to not use already promoted units and instead focus on the units with more room for leveling. Which sadly makes said already promoted units not named Jaffar kind of useless in the late game for me. No loads in my army! Also it is really satisfying to see these weaklings turn into powerful champions.

+Boarbaque I did, actually. 25 turns are more than enough. It helps I finished off two of the bosses (One of the berserkers and the final boss) with her. To be fair I haven't played it on hard mode.

Except, y'know, you can't just hide Cresselia, thanks to Ominous Wind.

Have half your inventory full of reviver seeds.

Blizzaria is best Yo-Kai If you fill your whole inventory with reviver seeds, there's no way you can lose. You can grind reviver seeds right before going in the dark crater, it's just tedious.

Maybe this is just nostalgia talking, but I actually think that part's actually well designed (going on the assumption that it's *supposed* to be stupidly hard). To me, it seems like the challenge is supposed to come from a constant disadvantage that you are supposed to overcome by using every resource you have available, along with the knowledge of when and how to properly use those resources. Then again, I do seem to be the only one who bothers with the exclusive-items and gummis. Which I don't really understand, considering how broken most of those things are. I mean, an *infinite light screen* for Vulpix and Ninetails just for having an item in your inventory? Who thought *that* would be balanced? I'm also the guy who thinks Primal Dialga is the most overrated boss in existence because of it's cheapass "Roar of Time" and the fact that it's a "Party v. One kinda stronger enemy" fight, which, in my opinion, doesn't really work that well for the MD series. Yet Chunspike seems to keep doing that in non-"Shiren the Wanderer" MD games for some reason... I mean, they kinda did it with EMD's final boss, but they made the actual main boss sit in one place and not even attack for about 5/8ths or so of the fight. And even when they do attack, they only use regular attacks and an attack that's about as strong as their regular attack.

Jav McCharzard Wait yo-Kai Blizzeria What game do you think we are talking about

Shadow Terrible

Shadow Crazy!

Nothing against her voice actress per se, at least from what I remember of the trailers, I haven't played Heroes, but I always pictured her sounding more like a femme fatale

Eliwood Normal Mode BBD isnt bad. Jaffar probably wont ever be threatened by anything in that mode. Hector Hard Mode is a COMPLETELY different beast.

@@tripleaaabattery8480 Swordreavers everywhere!

@@tripleaaabattery8480 In fact Jaffar could do the map alone if he had more weapons.

This is why you RNG abuse before moving.

True, but if you play Lyn's Story a second time, you can play on Hard Mode, which eliminates all of the tutorial aspects.

and it is a really good introduction so someone who never play fe games before...i think it does a great job at being a tutorial

it isn't if you've never played FE before.Like you'd not learn about the weapon triangle,about certain units and about many other things like trading,rescuing etc.If you knew nothing about this you'd probably just get frustrated and move on to a different game.

The thing is that this was the first FE outside of japan,and so noone had played it before.Besides the story is decent,it's a nice setup for the next part and altough it's basically scripted,you still do get to play through the chapters yourself.

Path of Radiance one is worst tbh

... Almost all of Fire Emblem is handheld. (Only Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn on the GC/Wii)

Alphabott And than there are the NES/Famicon Games Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light and Gaiden. And the SNES/Super Famicon Games Mystery of the Emblem, Genealogy of the Holy War and Tharcia 766. All Japan Exculsive sadly.

not including japan exclusives k.

Just pointing out.

If I remember correctly, Pent automatically joins in chapter 26 of hector's journey.

James Miller So he can't join in Eliwood's? Damn.

yea, he can. joins eliwood in 24. I was just saying hector because this vid is about that and I thought that's what you were talking about.

James Miller then good

So... Send everyone to the right?

So you don't want the Brave Lance, Rescue Staff, and Boots? o_O

Sorry, I meant left.

They're nice, but all I really care about is the Delphi Shield.

so when you have Lyn, Priscilla, and Nino meet up with your other units do you send Nino to talk to Jaffar or do you ignore him?

Exactly. This is also the kind of strategy I use for this particular chapter, regardless of which story/mode. Extra tip, built support among characters as early as possible. Those supports are really helpful. Tbh, this chapter isn't that worse. Imo there are other chapter far more worse than this one, like that Sophia desert chapter in Binding Blade. I say that one is a total nightmare (unless you don't care about getting true ending).

She can do pretty well, but is mega outclassed by Reinhardt. She can kick some serious butt with Blárblade on Horse Emblem, or she can be an anti-cavalry with Blárwolf. Overall, good, but not great.

Well I have a Zephiel with 69 HP, Wary Fighter 3 (neither him or his enemy can double attack if his HP are above 50%, except they use brave weapons or are called Reinhardt or Olwen) and Revenge as the special skill. Also he is together with female Corrin.

Marc Jehle Well, she is a member of the Black Fang. Who would've guessed?

JP do Ó Why hello there, Cecilia!

so you can use the mine trick in fog of war?

Indeed you can! You just have to move the curser around until you find a hidden unit. A little trickier but not impossible.

wow that woul've been really nice to know at those times... thanks for the tip, buddy

Doesn't take away she is an annoying mid boss.

That much is true, though.

Nope.

L9999 nice Nino profile picture

Bringer of dis pear But she is also the girl that leaves you dead without a second thought of course!

Plus Jaffar's bases are insane, nomatter how bad the assasin class is. Why people think Bartre is better than him is beyond me.

Lord Tullus 9 Because people have this 1-2 Range fetish, which dictates that "Swords are only 1 rage so they're bad". Then you have Bartre, who can use Axes, and then there's Hand Axes, a 1-2 Range weapon.

I played FE 7 for the first time last year and honestly I didn't have as much trouble with Cog of Destiny than Battle Before Dawn.

Last and second time I played FE7 was in January if I'm not wrong. BBD didn't really gave me that much trouble, and Cog of Destiny's generic enemies also didn't, but Lloyd screwed me like 3 or 4 times (Mostly because my strong units were battling hordes of generic enemies while Lucius, Raven and Legault where the ones trying to kill Lloyd. That all changed when I threw Luna at my problems

The Guy Formerly Known as Guy What about Four Fanged Offense, HHM Lloyd version??

King Bode​ I don't know because I always go Linus :v

The Guy Formerly Known as Guy I leveled Wallace in Lyn Hard Mode to promote him at level 20. I suffered a lot in HNM. I can't see myself doing this to take on HHM!

Aw

lisa semarron this is just an addition to Worst Levels Ever 12

I now that now

Proto L he has the best staves

Proto L lvl a staves

I think you can use any other staffer, but Pent's the easiest cause he starts out with A rank staves and high magic that can allow him to use staves with amazing range at base.

I won't use marcus ever unless i need him for Erik's map or for a prepromotes only run

Marcus can do well in Cog of Destiny at base, you really shouldn't overlook prepromotes especially the Jagen

Yes, because FE7 Marcus is ridiculously overpowered and has good enough bases to stay relevant as long as he gets a few Strength and Speed level ups.

Yeah, FE7 Marcus's growths aren't great, but like I said he can basically just coast on his bases. I always saw his FE7 incarnation as an Oifey, just not as monstrous as Seth or FE9 Titania.

I'm actually curious to know which chapter people benched fe6 Marcus.

ICREEPWENUSLEEP That's anything but true, fe7 is a relatively easy game and by not worrying about grinding up too many units, it's easier to cheese maps and not fall behind, he's actually got quite a good team

yes but it looks like he is using 4 maybe 5 units that are pre promoted not that its impossible to beat the game that way but he is struggling not to mention how much cringed happened when Matthew used a torch

ICREEPWENUSLEEP Mathew of legault should always use torches, thieves do have higher fog vision, but since torch multiplies vision and thieves have a higher base vision, meaning thieves are the best users of torches

I've never understood why some people always respond to using torches with thieves like it's terrible thing to do. As Edward says, it increases their already higher line-of-sight during Fog of War.

But why use a shitty growth unit like Nino with poor availability and terrible bases when I already have Pent who joins earlier and is strong enough for endgame out of the box? Or in the case of Marcus, he actually has good enough base stats to stay relevant even in the endgame as long as he gets a few level ups in Strength and Speed. Base stats are far more important than growth rates. Hell, I barely use any growth units in FE7 that aren't the Lords, Kent, Sain, Florina, and Raven (and sometimes Guy when I'm not playing HHM) because the pre-promotes tend to outclass most of the growth units in FE7.

Spencer Shilling What's wrong with them?

Because it is actually efficient to use them on Hector Hard Mode

Apparently, they're really good in the game. They come at higher bases and generally have growths that aren't too restricting. In HHM, they are more or less essential to making it to the end.

Why does everyone think HHM is hard? Yeah, it's harder with more limited exp and stronger enemies but i've never had a huge problem with it

SFG- I didn't think it was too hard either, you just gotta pay attention and don't take the chances you would on the other modes. The extra challenge is great!

Please don't believe the misconception that Jagens/Oifeys are wastes of EXP. Sure, FE1/3 Jagen is a waste, but the other Jagens/Oifeys start out with really good base stats, and FE7 Marcus especially starts out with good enough base stats that he doesn't need to grow much to stay relevant. Hell, even FE6 Marcus is worth using for a while, and is essential in Hard Mode early on because the enemies in the early game are so much stronger than your growth units. Also, keeping the Jagen/Oifey in your party means you have 1 less unit that needs experience to grow, whereas not having them is detrimental because you now have 1 more unit that needs a kill to gain experience that could have gone to a unit that needed it more.

You should use Marcus more. He's one of the best units in the early game of FE 6 and possibly the strongest unit in FE 7. Only an LHM crested Sain can compete and even then, Sain has competition for that crest with Kent and his bases aren't nearly as good as Marcus'.

He just doesn't get as much experience as any other unit for a long time, so it feels like too much of a waste to even consider

That's why you feed him boss kills and let your growth units take out the scrubs

If you like using Marcus and get good results, fine. No skin off my nose. Maybe we have different priorities. But let me explain why some of us don't like using him. In the long term, on average, all three potential Paladins will outperform Marcus in HP, Speed, and Defense when they are promoted from Lv 20; only Kent will have less Luck; only Lowen will have less Strength; and Kent will have more Skill. The only areas where Marcus beats them at the same level are Resistance (only slightly) and axe weapon level. The whole idea of "saving experience by having one less unit that needs it" requires you to avoid getting kills with him, which makes him difficult to use at all until about mid game. By then, I'm starting to promote characters, and those characters I'm promoting are generally better than Marcus in most every way. They no longer need Marcus to weaken enemies before they can get those kills, so I don't see any reason to keep using him anymore.