I installed the version you previously had about 18 months ago at first the download was only twice the cable now is 4 times.. so I am very happy with it.
We purchased a class c camper last year and I've been contemplating buying a mobile Starlink setup for it. Nice to see a product review from someone that I already know and trust vs. the dozens of other YT video reviews available.
If you are planing on plugging and unplugging the dish often then you might have problems. Seems the plugs teeth get damaged eventually. That was the case for me. Good luck.
In Australia (Victoria) we had tremendous rain and lightning over Christmas and the new Gen 3 Starlink my niece installed stayed connected - but dropped to 25Mb down and 5Mb up. Just be aware that if you live in very rainy areas this might be a factor for you
@@BGNOO7 I've put mine through all weather now and the only thing that noticeably hurt it was HEAVY snow or rain. It had to be very very heavy, otherwise, it worked same as it did on a clear day.
i have 4 starlinks on me and 1 of them is gen 3. last evening was very bad weather and the gen 2s are all out of connection, yet the gen 3 still has a fair bit of connection. to me it looks like they really focus the gen 3 on its reception and sacrifice every other aspect that previously exist on gen 2. even the good packaging is now no more!
Never place a mesh router in the room itself where you want a better signal. Place the mesh router in between the location of the first router and the location where you want to use the signal of the mesh router. Check the signal at the location of the mesh router. It must be of a good quality. Sometimes it is hindered by things like mirrors or aquariums.
@@DrKnowitallKnows haha I remember being that age and acting like that lol. Your son definitely takes after his "know-it-all" father, you must be proud
Actually, to make a good mesh network, you should place many mesh routers all over the place. Like the name says, make a mesh of routers. That way the mesh magic actually works. Otherwise it‘s just a simple range extener. But yes, don‘t place the range extender outside the range of the router, that is pointless.
@@bellumCretatus too many is not good either. Too much switching between access points is also causing problems. Today I was busy with a situation I just described. I had this problem in a restaurant as well. Switched off 2 AP's. Problems gone.
@@alaskanchannel2751 He is 100ft away, my neighbour did he first testing for a Month, then discussed If I would come on board, all he had Install for me was a Repeating antenna on my TV antenna, run the cable down to my Ubiquity Router. For that he charges me $50 per month no Data Cap. I’m retired so don’t use much Data anyway. He has the Dish no cables between his house or mine. Now my son uses a Starlink on his Pickup, his company provides it for him and the remote construction Offices, presently building the new Pipeline from Alberta to BC, through the mountains to the Coast. He doesn’t miss a conference or a phone call. We are talking really remote here. A lot of the Contractors remote construction office all use Star link, it’s the Fastest Connection in the middle of the Mountains. He uses his Star link Antenna at home as he sometimes works from home. Ps, presently that Oil Pipeline has a split off at the Border at Sumas Washington State and the oil goes to a Refinery in Washington.
@@alaskanchannel2751they probably use a long range wireless point to point system like ubiquiti. Can get a 500mbps point to point pair from them very cheaply that would run for miles if you have LOS.
3:25 That ladder angle is dangerously too shallow, even if it was rigidly braced at the base (not shown). The safe ladder angle for that type is with you standing vertically, the ladder should meet your hands outstretched in front of you. That is not a height that you want to be falling from, when it slides out or buckles.
This man is correct. Ladder collapses and falls are WAY UP THERE in how to die or become crippled. Never use any ladder over 12' without a second person at the bottom. Have been a ladder idiot all my life and almost died falling off a slip and slide 22' extension ladder. Don't use wimping aluminum ladders for tall work either. Fiberglass only. Stay safe!
$600 more and you got less than I do on their last version... only had it 3 months, happy as a claim, think I'll hold out for whatever is next down the road. Thank you for going through this for us.
Hello,Thank you for this review,,,, I'm currently using Gen-2 in Florida and would like a little more upload speed. Should I upgrade to Gen-3? Please let me know your opinion.
Subd, I just got Starlink, ordered May 12th, 2024, and arrived May 29th. I have to say for anyone in the north, Starlink is faster than cable as most cable companies restrict your speeds horribly, so if you have $600 kicking around, it will pay for itself as it's $60 a month cheaper than my local cable internet. Games are fast enough, movies are 100 times faster, work sad it's faster but w/e Great video and thanks for the info, and they shipped me an old model that I don't mind, kinda cool that it seeks signal itself
I had an old style sattelite internet, where my other option was dialup, or over $50K to have DSL run to the house. We moved and the entire city has fiber from the power company with minimum 250 M Bit connectoin synchrinous (they market it as 300MBit) for $50/mo and no MByte limit. It normally gets near that with Speedtest and I am oh so greatful. (They offer higher teers for more money, but the 250Mbit version does what we need.) ... Other companies are available, but the power company is the cheapest and good and reliable service, and they don't market our usage data.
I just ordered my starlink and I ordered the actuated one. I didn't know that the non was newer hardware. Anyway I just got it 2 days ago but haven't been home to set it up. I live in an area where high speed internet isn't available. I have been using my phone Hotspot. If I get download speeds above 100 I'm happy. Thanks for making this video.
I think you’re missing one aspect. The non motorized dish while it’s larger and has a larger field a view it’s 100% fixed. Meaning if you have like we had a few months ago near hurricane force downwind over 100 miles per hour and the dish sifts you would have to climb to top of house to fix it. Also I know mine occasionally shifts slightly to pick a better signal. I think the fixed is better for a person with an easily accessible location to move it if needed.
Around a year ago, our Gen 2 Dishy shifted automatically from facing due north (with a Chicago PoP) to pointing northwest (with a Denver PoP). We are in KC.
As a starlink installer I just installed my first gen 3. These comments echo my main concerns, gen 2 always finds the best signal. This took me forever to install, I thought the move was because its cheaper but that is not the case. I don't understand why starlink would go backwards in technology? Time will tell but after 1 day things don't look good. So far every gen 2 I have installed has outperformed the gen 3.
@@jamisonmunn9215 interesting your saying the 3rd generation isn’t as fast as the 2nd Generation. Hopefully this is something that can be improved in the future.
I live in an area that may be at best of times get one bar for an AT&T cell signal, we still have dead zones for cell coverage( do you hear me know, wasn't done here) we are 15 miles through trees to a cell tower, they still charge us full price. I have solar panels on my roof and would need to know the watts to run the system, so I could buy an inverter. I also would need to be able to shut down when not in use. The first problem I can't get by to get to the second, there is no customer service to talk to. I can't find a phone number to get questions answered, without customer service a company is nothing.
Great video. I am getting ready to order my first Starlink and want to go with the wall mount option. My only concern is the mast. Does it rotate 360, or is it fixed in place?
I ordered residential, didn’t give any options after that. I received my Starlink today and I’m pissed. 😤 They send me V2 not V3… now I’m waiting on Starlink support to reply. Already leaving a bad taste in my mouth as there no way in contacting them. What’s the problem or issue at Starlink, why didn’t I get V3??
I still have the first round version and still works fine. The router I do not use. Starlink is connected directly to my UniFi Dream Machine and the internal network. Good to see that the cable can be disconnected from the antenna.
I have V1 as well and also don't use the router. I plug in directly to the modem but occasionally I have had to hook it up to the WiFi router so that you can do updates. I often wonder if I should do that more often, not sure how often the update the modem firmware. Probably rarely now they are on V3 hardware unless there is a breaking change.
@@steveseegerI have access to the antenna by using the Starlink app on my smartphone. I don't have to use the router from Starlink for updating my antenna. OK, the Starlink router doesn't get any updates because it's disconnected. Maybe I will connect it also once a while to check everything. But for now everything works fine.
5-30-2024 - - - I don't know about anyone else but I'm out of breath just listening to you. I haven't gotten any starlink stuff yet and am worried that the trees around my house would interfere with the signal from the satellites. Any comments? Anyone?
Couldn’t you have tied the new cable to the end of the old cable so you don’t have to climb up in the attic to fish it through? Unless you were wanting to anchor the cable.
Starlink is only option where I live. It’s been good but has quit working twice. Starlink sent a replacement that only lasted 3 months before it stopped working. Both were 2nd gen. I’m not positive but I think the connection plug to dish eventually gets bad. We have mobile service and would have it setup in a house we rent and take it with us to cabin we are building. I’m in the process of returning the replacement. I requested a 3rd gen but they don’t seem willing to do that even if I pay for upgrade?
This seems all to easy, is it really this easy, I've been trying to find the "catch" but so far I haven't been able to find one. Is there something I'm missing or is it really this good.
Did you have to run the new ethernet cable? I would think just installing new dish and router would be all you needed to do. All these companies Claiming thier new cable is the highest fastest rating cable known to man but you cut it open and it's just copper and Shielded cable, just like every other one.
I keep pondering this. I'm paying just under $100 for a local company and 100mbps. However it's spotty and since I'm bounced off of tower to tower, if there is a power outage on the way, I'm without internet and twirling my thumbs since everything is streaming now. How are the outages these days?
I wonder how often you'll have to get back on the roof for adjustments??? I saw where someone else had the actuated version which moved around several times over the course of a few months.
I use an ASUS mesh net, and plug in via an ethernet connection (available for $25 bucks in the Starlink store). The ping is much better. I would guess if you are using the built in wifi router, you can do better.
The biggest advantage of new router is it uses WIFI 6 versus old one uses WIFI 5 standard. So the new router should be faster connection to devices and handle more devices.
We are looking to purchase the Starlink , was hoping to get the actuated model , but guessing they are not available any more. It has good and bad , actuated , I'm old and wouldn't need to climb on the roof , guess i will be doing that now, good there is ethernet ports on the router so I won't need to buy a 25$ dongle. So think I will purchase from what you showed as the Up and Down speeds.
I'm getting 866 mbps calaveras county California. Have the old version. I pay the extra for mobility. It's on top of my camper. Otherwise, it's on my boat. I'm thinking the one with the actuator is better for my application. Thinking a choice based on its uses. On a house doesn't move vs a boat or camper that dose. Cheers from Northern California!!
Hello, I saw your video and I would also like to order Starlink, but there is one problem. With the initial order it seems to me that Starlink wants to give me the second gen instead of the third one, as I prefer the third gen a lot more due to the conditions where I live. Will Starlink give me the second gen anyway or will it give me a third one instead? As though it looks like the second gen according to the pictures and description.
Long-term, Starlink should be able to serve 100% of all sparsely populated areas and a much smaller percentage of heavily populated areas. I have Starlink in a pretty dense suburb but it can't serve all of my neighbors. I use Starlink as a backup service since I already have fiber.
Isn't the Gen-3 a wifi 6 compliant device? Seems like the benefit would be the additional wifi channels available in a home like yours with multiple devices. Anyone with a heavy wifi traffic, wifi 6 might help even if ISP isn't changed. However, this could also be done with a wifi 6 access point off the starlink 2 router.
In your video you show your speed tests. All tests are connecting to different servers. These can very depending on capacity and link speeds per servers. Choose a high speed server and check again. It can very for Comcast based on server for a difference of 150meg - 800 meg…. I would recommend checking again based on the same server you use for your old equipment test.
Have you noticed a difference in range? I have an Orbi mesh satellite in my garage which is about 200 feet away from my router and I lose connection every now and then. I would like to have a more reliable connection in the garage and am considering the Gen 3 router to improve that particular connection.
Nicely done, too bad about the ceiling 😢. Love to read or hear about Starlink but unfortunately we here in the south of Africa won't be getting it soon (politics). So, I will just revel in the first world countries good fortune. By the way, happy new year to you and Miss-information! 🎉
Q: is the new dish self heating for snow clearing, like the original? Starlink sent me a special into offer for upgrade router about $200 a few few weeks ago, I immediately ordered and received in three days. Then two wks ago got offer to upgrade to the New Dish system. Plus Starlink has been blocking all communication with with, other then ordering, for over a year now. I find this very troubling. The upgrade router has same connecters used existing cable, much better wifi range, but, did I get screwed?
My location does not provide good connectivity so I haven't gotten the Starlink dish and router yet. I'm checking connectivity (visibility of satellites mainly to the north where trees block Line-of-sight to LEO satellites) periodically but the trees aren't going to move so I may always have that dead spot to the north.
Curious... how is the old router, that you repurposed as a mesh router for your son's room, working out for computer game play? Do you have objective and subjective data to share? Our office has the old router, that came with the 2nd gen (actuated) router and which is where the computers also reside, one of which is direct connected to the router. I also like to play some on-line games so am interested in playability. We are not competitive, professional, gamers and I have not noticed any issues with "first person shooters", or single player rpg's. I'm curious how massive, multiplayer, mpg's would play, though. Thanks!
Hey John, don't feel too bad cause Tesla will also be breaking the ceiling this year. btw... paint the whole thing, or get the ladder out twice. happy new year
That's weird that you're not having good pings for gaming. I use it exclusively for gaming and my ping is usually better than most. Waiting on the upgrade in the mail still so using V2.
I have the Lvl 2 Dishy. Good info. I would stick with mine. Upgrading and re-programing 25 devices to a new SSD is one of the considerations (Cars, Power Connectors, Gateway and Security Cams). Not a gamer or much need for higher upload as you indicated, if not needed, not just to chase Technology.
@@johnpoldo8817 Habit -- Change management with systems. Leaving everything operational and installing a new router to ensure its functioning at speed--then changing the devices to the new router/network. I can't change everything in one day with some on ethernet and others on WI-FI. Also not sure one can have to of the same SSID's nor sure of what process and confusion it may cause.
@@aljohnson9119 Al, this is a home application. All John has to do is tell family the network will be down for 30 mins while he swaps routers, although it probably takes far less time. My company has installed over 5000 WiFi routers and setting SSID is trivial.
@aljohnson9119 Yes when setting up the new router just configure it with the same network name or SSID and password as you currently use. Power off the old router and all the devices switch seamlessly over.
It's 50watts more as well. So if you can afford 100-125watts rather than the 50watts. If you run it through an RV inverter it'll more more in the 150watt range.
I’m a union electrician in MN and I laughed out loud when you said you cracked your ceiling. Crack is not bad I’ve heard of people taking down a large piece of Sheetrock 😂
Your friend, Eliana Sheriff (Ellie In Space), ordered one for portable use to live stream report from Star Base. Is the actuated version better for that? Or, is the actuated one for RVs, etc?
i have a question if someone can please answer it if i bought a starlink divce from the U.S but i haven't used it or subscribe to it can i take it and use it in Germany ? and dose it come with a subscription plan ? and if it come with a subscription plan can i take it and use it in Germany without any problems???
Have a guy coming out to install this next week in north GA. 180 Mbps would be amazing cus I only get 10 Mbps (on a good day) with DSL. Fiber is an option.......if I'm willing to pay 10k for them to run it down the driveway.
Do you know anything about a setup fee to get your account going? I was looking up reviews on best buy and someone said you need to pay $200 to setup your starlink account?
Thats my question, if its an ethernet cable why cant i just use exsisting Exterior rated ethernet cable, i cant imagine it being any different, copper is copper, if its Shielded cable i should just be able to unplug my old equipment and install new starlink.
Yes. Most likely. It does make a difference what direction they are located. If they are to the north of your house, probably good. Anywhere south is almost always bad.
I was really close to ordering the RV version but then the monthly price went from $135 for either RV or mobile, to $150 and $200 monthly, which killed the entire prospect at least for me anyway
Instead of gaming why isn't your son helping you install the new system? I hate to see old farts on a very tall leader - me included. That said, thanks for this timely video. We're building a new house in the Colorado mountains and have been looking around for internet service. I definitely need to buy a setup and have the electrician pop this in before we insulate and drywall.
I missed the prices. Monthly cost of service for unlimited internet after all fees and taxes, cost of all parts needed for first time service, any other needed costs. I heard the dish costs $500 or more up front.,
Great video. Why Starlink vs. local internet? In Aiken, I get internet only (AT&T) for $60 a month, which I think is about half of Starlink, and it has much faster speeds. So, curious why Starlink. I would think in the Athens area you would have access to a cable internet-only subscription. Have a very Happy New Year! Looking forward to your content this year. p.s. Yup. Can feel your pain. I also have put my foot thru the ceiling under similar circumstances. Haha.
It's a matter of application. Starlink isn't for everyone. Whare I live and how I use it, it's brilliant. On a camper or on my boat. The other choices are slim & very expensive, such as a satellite phone with horrible speeds. Cheers from Northern California!!
Starlink is absolutely NOT designed for urban areas with fiber optics or cable internet. I think John is just buying those things for test and content creation.
Specifically John is buying it for testing purposes as well as as a backup in case primary connection fails Starlink specifically markets 2 areas. The first is the "forgotten" areas of many countries and even entire states that are left with extremely expensive and poor quality networks. Often needing to rely either on satellite connectivity (which is very expensive and extremely bad) or old coax (which is still bad but less expensive). Starlink directly competes with these by actually providing usable network speeds in places where you may have a network so slow it's not even suitable for watching a video. And the second is roaming connectivity. Starlink works on moving platforms, even quickly moving and unstable platforms like cars, planes, boats (and rockets!). Starlink for cruise liners and other boats has been TREMENDOUSLY successful, and planes likely to follow. And of course dishes on the top of mobile homes and trailers for those that are spending time in those. Core upgrades with the V2 laser interlinks will likely bring connectivity speeds to similar speeds as fibre optic internet, perhaps slightly slower. It will still lose our to urban areas, but may just be what the competitive market needs to kick stagnant cable networks into gear. And finally, there is the developing defense sector. spaceX really kicked the door open with Ukraine, showing starlink to be a jam/hack resistant, hard to trace, hard to strike, easy to use, roaming and low power capable terminal for general communication and coordination. And despite some slight problems regarding regional locks and the DoD being lethargic fuck baskets, blew various holes into the sides of the Russian fleet using starlink controlled naval drones. Even managing some truly awesome feats like striking a Russian vessel underway in the middle of a storm. Starshield is the military dedicated offering for Starlink, and the US has decided to be the first to invest into their own constellation. I am sure many more will follow. So the TLDR starlink has quite a lot of capability gaps to fill, and is going to be growing in both scale and capabilities.
