Would Life Really Develop Differently on Another Planet? | Convergent Evolution 

Great to see this point made. I too think that there are very problematic assumptions in the scale, and indeed most arguments about what comprises 'advanced civilisations'.

I think it’s about the ability to capture the energy and not so much about how much of it is used. I do get your point though.

valid criticism, but even when you can do more with less I'd argue that makes acquiring more energy even more attractive. a civilization that's already expansionist enough to reach space would probably want to keep going, or at the very least there's nothing I can think of that would make every single spacefaring civilization say "that's enough" and become zero growth.

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx- It might be that our belief in unlimited growth is a sign that we are an immature species. You know what else has unlimited growth? Cancer.

The scale is about more than just energy consumption. It is about scale. By becoming more and more efficient you can use less energy per unit. But the only way to stop per unit expansion is population control. No matter how efficient you get at using energy, your civilization will continue to grow until something stops it. And thus your need for more energy will also grow. Just look to the past 100 years of our own planet. We went from around 1.5 billion world population in 1918 to 7.5 billion around 2018. And while I don't think that high of a rate will continue, a doubling every 100 years is not out of the question. And you can't increase efficiency by 200% every century from now on. So your energy needs will increase because of the increase in demand.

Something so incredibly complex.

Because nature didn't. Anyone with a brain knows it's impossible.

Eyes are just light sensitive cells. Specially our eyes, they are not that complicated, in fact they are quite faulty. It's not that insane

​@joelspringman523 yeah then how does it happen?, lol. Religious people think nature creating eyes is ridiculous, but magic gods doing it is fine lmao. It's impossible! It must be a magic spaceless powerful wizard who created eyes out of nothing obviously!

@@davidspencer343Galactic corporate bioengineering laboratories with very advanced technology, combined with consciousness created all the species on this and other planets. Scientists are slowly remembering this technology and will be able to replicate what was done before. Nothing new under the Sun.

Nah, science isn't limited to the given sensory equipment a species has, they can know about stars perhaps as random concentrations of EM Radiation in the Void They might want to measure their sun and end up measuring the night sky by accident.

Try making a computer for a person who can't see. I mean a computer useful for real scientific work of all types.

tough to smelt metal under water too! ;D

@@ronschlorff7089 Echo location also used by bats in air. They seem to "see" very detailed info.

@@oneshothunter9877 Yes, I know that well, I'm a retired wildlife biologist. I had many colleagues who did field studies on them, but as a precaution they all had to have rabies vaccines to protect them from the disease!! ;D

What is the source of the biological instructions in DNA? Don’t ask a biology student, they will laugh you to scorn. Don’t ask a scientist in the field of biology, they will run from you.

I agree, however they would be capable of so much I feel they may make progress far quicker and from a distance that they would not use to many resources on us for general research. At the same time they could do the opposite, though.

True, but convergent evolution really is a thing. And his arguments of the needs of alien life are sound. First of all it is creepy that they will probably have DNA that looks similar to ours. But possible variations are extremely large 🙂 And then you are right the possible pathways to an intelligent solution are immens and awesome

They would have some sort of "hand" to make tools and interact with their environment. It might not look like our hand, but would have the same function. They would also have eyes to see what they eat and to prevent swimming or running into walls. And they would have the ability to ear in the atmosphere of their world. Really useful if you notice approaching predators. And since you can already hear, might as well develop the ability to make sound to warn your fellow beings of danger.

​@@denvan3143The source is the nucleotides

i think the great filter is at the start of life. almost all life start different than it did on earth (not with rna but something different). it can replicate but it cant scale up to complex life. once it duplicated itself other forms of life dont get a chance.

absurd, evolution isn't some chastising force bringing down those who get to out of line, evolution is obsolescent as it's only function is to allow us to live long enough to procreate. we can only ever surpass it

@Uncle Charlie🔧 You are really missing out on the best human feature

I'd say any species advanced enough to halt natural selection processes will find a way to cure or exclude the proliferation of genetic defects within a few generations. We tend to look at it from a compassionate bias, assuming they wouldn't do what a few silly Germans did in the 1930s-40s. But before they did what they did, Eugenics were a pretty popular topic in the scientific comunity back then. To varying degrees of radicalism. From simply promoting healthy lifestiles and partner selection all the way to forced sterilization of people below a certain IQ. Would they ask the same moral questions we do or would pragmatism win over? On another hand, a way almost completely free of moral dillemas would be genetic editing. Still in the realm of scirnce fiction, but what if we could eliminate all genetic predisposition to diseases? Maybe even tweak out a few quirks with in vitro genetic editing? Would that be evolutiin or genetic engineering?

i cant remember what the theory's called, but any advanced civ would presumably reach a point of salvation or self-destruction if left to continue. what if we are on a head-on collision path with our planet's destruction? have any intelligent species survived this? or have all that reach that point died or now dying? so many questions!

They may not need but if they grab all the resources they encounter they will expand faster. And it's a bigger risk that we will encounter aliens that expands faster than slower.

I don't know if alien visitors would find us boring, we may study bacteria, but to know of our culture and our science, the aliens would have to study us!

@@theussmirage You know what a bunch of bacteria growing on a Petri dish is called?

True. Resource wars are very terrestrial concept that doesn't apply if you have access to the basically endless resources of space. The only thing on earth that might possibly be of any particular interest to an extraterrestrial would be our biology. Life can make some amazing things, like silk, honey etc that might easily be unique. Anything mineral or chemical you can find in excessive abundance elsewhere, if you're capable of getting there.

I think alien bacteria would blow our minds

Cows have big black eyes. It's to see predators at night.

Lucky you. It's a rare trait, like humility.

I always thought the grey aliens were wearing some kind of flight suits and the eyes are actually viewports

a 6 year old talking like that is a really great sign of intelligence..

HG Wells imagined future humans in a way very similar to grey aliens. Trey the Explainer goes into it in "Scientifically Accurate Aliens" here on RU-vid. In that case those Aliens are technically descended from us.

Humans : Get your cycle off my lawn kid !! Aliens : Get your space shuttle off my solar system kid!

I get the premise, but unfortunately, everything is ultimately limited by the speed of light. It has a much bigger impact on how advanced civilizations can ever be, than you would like to think. Consider this, it takes light about one day to cross a star system, and several years to reach the closest one. You can't get around it either, as it's the speed of causality itself so any method of FTL, if possible at all, will allow travel back in time and violate causality, which, well, the universe doesn't like that so it might as well be impossible. Empires will forever be limited to one star system at a time. A type III might be possible but we're talking about a sphere of influence so vast any kinds of information will need tens of thousands of years to reach the far ends. It will be more like a network of billions of type IIs that collectively could be called a type III, but this network will never be more connected than the occasional shipment and some information sharing between the closest neighbors. Individuals will reside in their native star systems all their lives, never knowing what's happening in other star systems in real time as the most recent news they receive are anywhere from about 5 years old to 100,000 years old. People might occasionally take one way trips to the closest star systems, especially if events such as war or genocide are taking place in their native systems, but no more spectacular than that. Such a network spanning the entire galaxy will take upto a million years to build if we're talking about the Milky Way. What I imagine is stellar hopping. It starts with sending generation ships from Earth to every star system upto 15 light years distant. At 0.2c, the longest trip will take upto 75 years, so not too bad, could be done in 3 generations. Now they spend a few decades building a colony on the star systems they landed on before they launch their own fleet of generation ships to every star system upto 15 light years away from them, except the ones that has already been colonized by others. Rinse and repeat. After about a million years, there will be humans on every star system in the Milky Way galaxy. There will be countless languages, cultures, and even species of humans across the galaxy. And linguistic, cultural and genetic influences could sometimes spread surprisingly far amongst the galactic populations considering everyone is interacting with their closest neighbors all the time so everything is still connected in a way. It's still quite an interesting future despite the limitations. Now, extragalactic colonization is off limits. There are close to no stars between galaxies so stellar hopping is cerntainly not possible. The entire distance has to be traversed by the same ship alone with no stopping and aiding. For a trip to Andromeda, this can take upto 12 million years at 0.2c, and 2.5 million years at 0.71c (from the ship's perspective). No ships are going to last that long structurally. 2.5 million years is a long ass time, hitting intergalactic particles at that speed alone is going to erode the whole ship long before it's even half way. There are no way around it either, you could accelerate it to close to the speed of light so travel time according to the ship might be reduced to let's say 100 years, but the kinetic energy of those particles will also increase relativistically, so erosion is still imminent. The next timeframe for further human expansion would most likely be when Andromeda collides with the Milky Way 4 billion years in the future. But this far into the future we most likely don't look remotely human anymore. Interstellar colonization and expansion is certainly possible, but we're ultimately stuck in our own galaxy, no matter how you wanna twist the narrative.

Fantastic visualisation I like it. If these sentient beings become philosophers could they reject material goods and maybe transform to energy particles and cut down on their 'McDonald's type' material desires.

@@jamespkinsella5018 They don't need material goods, doesn't mean they reject them.

If we were type 4 civilisation we would be able to date your mom

I just never know what you, as subscribers, might find most interesting!

@@astrumspace For me it could be just a black rectangle. I see Astrum, I click. It is useful to fine-tune thumbnails to attract new subs though!

I must confess I don’t recognize it. Hints?

Ya, I mean we are apes, why would aliens from a different solar system evolve into ape like creatures as well?

@@astrumspace One alternative to Kardashev was suggested by Carl Sagan in Cosmic Connection when he wrote, “But there may be more significant ways to characterize civilizations than by the energy they use…An important criterion of a civilization is the total amount of information that it stores.” He proposed a lettered scale from A - Z where each letter meant an order of magnitude increase in the volume of information a society holds. When he wrote the book in the early 70s, Earth was an ‘H’ on the scale. We are now somewhere around an ‘R,’ and are continuing to move rapidly on down the alphabet due to exponential increases in computer speed, along with data generation and storage technologies. Though in principal not a bad idea, Sagan seems to have underestimated how rapidly we are creating new data, with a projection that the world total could hit 173 zettabytes (a zettabyte is 1 with 23 zeros after it) by 2025. It is also difficult to determine what data should count. For instance, if a million copies of a best-selling book are printed, does every letter in every book only count once, or a million times? Or if a digital picture is shared widely, perhaps as part of a viral meme, does it count once or is every new share a piece of data?

I used to believe that, and clearly Sagan was brilliant, but I'm not so sure we can be that confident any more. It's seeming more and more like our configuration of a solar system is pretty rare. Plus we aren't even sure how important things like a large moon are. I'm not at all saying we know there's nothing out there. I'm only saying I think we need to seriously consider the possibility we are the only instance of an insanely rare phenomena.

@@1three7 is a large moon really necessary for life to exist?

@@skan5728 while it might not be a dealbreaker, a large enough moon stabilizes a planet thus making climate more constant and mild. Meanwhile a planet without a big enough moon or no moon will experience big climate swings due to the planet’s unstable orbit and tilt Edit: forgot to add how important a mild and constant climate is for life, view it as a slow burning controlled fire to cook your food vs a fireplace that randomly either flares up or just dies down a little; the food is more likely to get burnt or get undercooked. Not the best analogy haha but you get my point

@@skan5728 I think the sentiment is more to do with how rare our setup is, we have life that we haven't seen elsewhere and an unusually (as far as we know) large moon so perhaps there's a correlation. Personally I think it's a bonus, but not a certain requirement.

@@1three7 It's a simple function of probabilities. When considering how many star systems exist in the observable universe (more than 10 x 10e100...), what might be thought of as "rare" becomes exceedingly likely to exist in many places, even if we cannot communicate or discretely observe them.

maybe its bc we have things here on earth that look monstrous and terrifying but we keep them in zoos lol, humans much scarier

It's also an interesting example of how an alien logic may differ from ours. With trisolarians, they lived as a hivemind of sorts, so they couldn't comprehend a concept of lying.

YES! I’ve been saying this for YEARS! Total aliens 👽 🐙 👽

Why do you think some scientists think Octopuses are aliens?

The problem with aquatics is that electricity doesn’t work in water so real technological advancement would be problematic.

@@jlee1014 while I agree, I'm not sure that water is their only habitable environment. They "explore" coastal areas now. It's not hard to see them evolve into a land form.

I mean, think of elephant trunks. They work just fine in our atmosphere, and they're pretty much just a tentacle fused with a nose.

Obviously you are not a cat owner.

I find the idea incredibly unlikely. Animals on our world have been shown to have intelligence in a similar method to ourselves, much like how we can team cats and dogs to use the toilet or octopuses literally leaving their tanks to eat the fish in the other tank and climb back in their's. Intelligence doesn't come out of nowhere, it's iterated on. For humans, it's believed our intelligence formed as a side affect from better visual processing and threat detection. Our brains became tuned heavily to process images even in dark or bright lighting and even produce new data in our peripherals and blind spots. It's very likely any other intelligent life also formed intelligence as a side effect of a survival instinct. The main ways I see it could be different is using say smells or touch for communication verses eyes for us, but seeing how often eyes formed here, it seems unlikely they also wouldn't have eyes. Even bats have eyes. I'd say our main concern would more be about syntax and general communication structure. Even if I know a few worse in Japanese for example, they're phases tend to be disorganized verses English so saying a direct translation is basically speaking the sentence backwards to them. It just doesn't sound coherent.

@@Skylancer727 So you're saying our intelligence and capacity to do, think and communicate the way we do as a species is more so unintentional? Or a byproduct of evolution?

@@tobycooper9218 Well yes evolution isn't intention. More like happy accidents.

@@Skylancer727 I could be wrong but I thought our intelligence came from communication? Our ability to warn others in tribes and passing down of knowledge. That could've came after eyes. Do you have a video I could watch? Cause I love this stuff.

Dinosaurs would still rule lol there have been five global type extinction events that we know about in Earths history. The last one being what eliminated the predators and allowed mammals to rise from the ashes

Maybe dinosaur-like creatures start a civilization. Hadrosaurs had a very high EQ and were bipedal ornithopods that lived in the late Cretaceous. Maybe Star Trek wasn't too far off with the Voth.

God im just not looking forward to alien furries

​@@hexapodc.1973 Or "skinnies" if they have fur already

you make sense

That's pretty much my problem with this video. He fails to recognize a lot of the little ways that our path was influenced by our specific environment

​@@lunarcowboyyes!!!! even a little change in the environment a species lives in can totally change its features. humans look like we do because of VERY specific conditions, like the group of species we previously evolved from, the environment (including climate, atmosphere and vegetation), the other animals that lived with us, our diet and lifestyle, even gravity affected it

If they can make tools absolutely

There are ways to detect rock below water without needing to touch it directly, or even see it. Assuming similar fundamental biological processes to terrestrial life, I’d suggest some form of sonar or radar, maybe x-ray backscatter if it’s particularly resilient. All you need to know is whether there’s an interface between creature and not-creature, and if so, what that interface looks like with different diagnostics.

I had a dream last night about your little brother.

Celestial bodies in dreams represent greater wisdom and knowledge. Dreaming about planets is a sign to open yourself to the most profound meaning of life indeed. Your mind moves to a higher level of awareness.

This would make a great sci Fi novel

That’s one weird dream

But, alas!, They do not have opposable thumbs and though they are very smart, they cannot build machines to advance their culture. It is possible dolphins are smarter than us but have no thumbs.

@@swinde What an atrociously insidious idea.... having all the necessary desires and faculties for limitless possibilities, but lacking the proper physical anatomy..... what nightmares wrought on such poor souls.

But they may instead develop Virtual Reality into something that removes the desire to risk the hazards of interstellar travel.

evolving in water, a species could easily explore the land with 'land' suits. the newly found land resources might allow them to explore space. water life forms may not be hindered, but possibly at an advantage since their first leap out of their natural environment is relatively easy. keeping in mind the difficulty of space exploration - gravity, vacuum, radiation - all which require extreme protective technology.

Yes, all well and good what you say, but, the aliens may simply want to come here "to serve man"!! LOL ;D

Ok but I feel like the U.S. Military would probably shoot them down or something

Very well said, I completely agree. And we risk a self-fulfilling prophecy when we overstate the difficulty of communicating or finding common ground. Another historical parallel…

I can give you one good reason that most dominant species will develop something similar to sight, and that is because light is the fastest way to transmit information. That's why it dominated here when hearing has so many other advantages over light. Sound is omnidirectional and carries much more information than light, but since light moves SIGNIFICANTLY faster, using light sensing organs gives organisms a longer lead time to respond to that input. Faster response time almost always means a higher survival rate. Hence why light-sensing organs developed so often.

@@housellama It's even more significant than that. It's strongly believed we are only intelligent at all as our mind became tuned to image processing. It's why we see more detail in our peripherals than is actually visible through the eye itself and even have detail in our blind spot where there is literally no image at all. We are also exceptionally good at spotting small subtle difference in berries, fruits, dirt vs contamination, and even moving brush from the wind vs an animal moving in grass. These are huge pressures to have better processing and are likely one of the primary drivers of our intelligences. Another of course is our naturally weakness. Obviously if we were as capable as a bear needing to spot predators would be less significant hence why apex predators are rarely that intelligent vs lessor predators.

Sure evolved in very simple animals as skin cells became sensitive to light Any organism that evolves where electromagnetic radiation is present would likely develop an ability to detect and interpret it.

@@housellama Just because there's a logical advantage doesn't mean its likelyhood won't evolve again. And besides there are other things besides light that move just as fast such as electro sensory organs. There are also other variables where the majority of life exists where the environment is different to our own.

@@Skylancer727 I don't believe that to be the case. The general trend of increased intelligence among animals can be explained by competing with each other. Most complex animals are generally intelligent. Even ones that have little to no sight like river dolphins. Then you have mantis shrimp who have extremely complex eyes but despite some generally complex intelligence still aren't at the same level as something like an octopus. And even in humans we can rarely if at all access the processing power of sight for other uses such as math (one person famously did but he seems to be the exception rather than the rule). There are also Box jellyfish and scallops who have oddly complex eyes but don't have the hardware. But this is odd because evolution of more complex intelligence due to a sense specialization does seem to be a thing for echolocation. My question is why? 🤔

not to mention: why have two arms? maybe they evolve complex tongues to use as an arm, or perhaps they use antennae!

​@@projectguestyt844or maybe they have dexterous trunks like elephants

it was the Kelads!

@@ronschlorff7089 I had to look them up. I'm not as knowledgeable about 'Doctor Who' as I'd like to be.

@@lamegoldfish6736 yeah, two races had a civil war on a planet and the winners became little creatures that had to live in the big black shell called a Dalek, which was their name, Kelad, spelled backwards. See old Dr.(Tom Baker) in "Genesis of the Daleks". Fun few episodes. ;D LOL

We I were to entertain it, if lifeforms that are pure energy are real, they definitely don't use DNA.

Stars don't stay grouped like that unfortunately. Galaxies are like coffee and milk mixed together so maybe nearby galaxies would have similar life types but.... Star systems don't stay near other star systems they are born with often

Technically I believe there is only one Solar system. The one that has the star named Sol in the middle, also referred to as the Sun.

This such a “head ahh” message bro don’t even know what he talking about. Literally preaching ‘youtube shorts’ knowledge. Stop trying to sound smart gang 👍

Check out Robin Hanson’s ideas about sibling panspermia. You may find it interesting given your above comment. I learned about him on Lex Fridman’s podcast.

@Adolfizzz0 WTF

Convergent evolution. I'm skeptical. All these different eyes function more or less the same and are positioned roughly where one would expect to find eyes. The basic plan is shared from a common ancestor. Locomotion, reproduction, digestion, senses etc are roughly speaking very similar among all species of organized life on Earth from the earliest examples to the present.

@@parmmohan4603 it's some kind of spam. Hope you didn't read all of it.

@@pakde8002 You are missing the whole point. All these traits have adjusted with precision to their environments. The details of these adjustments and requirements is the key.

It's fascinating to think, given the unbelievably immense scale of the universe, that it's entirely possible there is an advanced civilization somewhere out there...............that look nearly indistinguishable to us humans. That's really amazing to think about. And they could live on a planet that we would be able to walk around on unaided, breathe their air, etc. And yet....they would be SO FAR away....we'll never ever know about them. But imagine visiting such a place!? The sense of uncanniness would be overwhelming I imagine. So much would seem the same....and yet literally everything would be different enough. What would their sense of humor be like? Would they have novels? Art? Movies? Music? Bands? Would they have fashion? What would their social lives be like? Would they have bars? Would they use drugs? What about their religions? Would they have crime...and how would they deal with it? What about diseases and medical care...what would that look like? It's really humbling to think about the very real probability of such a place....and what it would be like. And existentially quite sad to think we'll almost certainly never know about those places and those beings....

Im ready to meet the creatures that live in the middle of stars.

yup, stay tuned for Europa's life! Or Enceladus', or Pluto's, or Ganymede's or.... Planet X's....

@@CrossWindsPat I'm ready for stars that live in the middle of creatures! LOL

As is water and carbon chauvinism. More and more scientists are opening up to the idea that, whilst water as a solvent and carbon as a building block, may be the best in absolute terms, that doesn't preclude other solvents and elements. Life on cold planets, with liquid methane as their oceans and silicon as their building blocks, may exist so slowly that we don't even recognise it. If we even look.

technological aliens will atleast look the same as us

Yup, I made my "terraformed Mars" from a big old Christmas tree ornament, 8" plastic sphere I got at Home Depot. Painted it up with spray cans and presto, Mars, as postulated, in a few centuries, complete with red brown and green continents and blue oceans/big lakes!! Easy, fun and cheap. LOL :D

i think it's clear what he meant is digits, a way to manipulate complex tools

Where did the life come from? It doesn't just spring out of the mud one day. And definitely does not go from simple to super complex just by chance or natural selection. That's not how natural laws work in this universe.

Read any sci if book

We humans are just one example of billions of possibilities. Will we acquire or even have we the 'where with all' to 'See' or comprehend other forms.

What's with "kudos"? For 50+ years I'd never seen nor heard the term. Now it's all over social media. I've never used it...ever. Where did it come from? Is it an American thing? Apparently it means praise for something achieved.

@@toby9999 AFAIK it originated in Greece. Not sure its an American thing though. Its sparsely used by the academics and professionals in South Asia.

Why?

But that could never happen. It required a land animal (ape) so that we could use tools and other resources. An intelligent water species could probably never communicate with the universe, simply because for example, you can't even create electrical devices in the water.

it’s not a bad example, i mean sure our legs maybe aren’t optimized for running, but they are really good at doing what humans need them to do, like support a lot of weight and walking while carrying things. that’s what he means. we evolved to use things. our fingers are dexterous for complex tasks like writing and typing, making art, and, ya know, fine motor skills in general.

I wouldn't blame them tbh.

@@vallejomach6721 why huh?

@@joemariejames4757 if you have children, you would not want them to directly interract with monkeys or tigers either.

@@Nightdreaux22647 I don't quite get the analogy but why monkeys monkeys are cute! Especially the apes the one with fangs the alpha I wanted to meet and play my children with an alpha ape someday🤭

@@joemariejames4757 The aliens saw humans like we saw monkey. And Humans put Monkeys in the zoo and laugh at them as entertainment. We also don't put Monkey to school to become a productive member of human society. Most monkeys cannot learn how to drive car, become engineers, rocket scientist, fixing house, etc. We don't talk with monkey and tell them to learn complex human technology. Maybe aliens have wireless threatre broadcast to show Humans activity in their home planet. Like how we saw Monkey in youtube.

The laws of physics are constant everywhere in the universe

They are pretty cool and I have the money, it is still hard to justify at 200 dollars though. Also, it is a third party seller and I usually don't like to put my card info everywhere on the internet if I don't have to. If this was sold through amazon or another larger online dealer, there is a good chance that I would have actually bought it.

we are pretty ruthless though...hardly bambi.

Yes! So often Earth's vast and ancient biology is overlooked in these ponderings of what life would be like elsewhere. We are indeed rare and unlikely beings.

!ahhh our grandpa good ol two eye fish . miss ya pops ! thanks for staying alive back then lol

I imagined some aliens having 4 or 8 eyes evolving from some insect

I doubt aliens would be humanoid, the body plan of an alien is dependent on what conditions exist on the planrt and what works for the species. For example there could be centaur aliens, multiple limb aliens, spider aliens etc. What i think is convergent are certain human cincepts like cooperation, justice, curiosity, playing etc. You can't build a space faring civilization without cooperating with other members of your species, inorder to become space faring you must have 'curiosity', to test an experiment with their understanding of physics. Justice is for aliens that commit a crime or unjust murder, these aliens are gonna have different psychology and culture but they probably would'nt like being killed so they may have some type of justice system.

Good point. What would Earth look like now if the dinosaurs had not been wiped out. Would they be building rockets and transmitting digital information? It's only by a fluke that we were given the opportunity evolve at all. I think life existing elsewhere is a statistical likelihood, but that it somehow evolved as we did, far less so.

@@PolyQuasi yeah “cool worlds” channel goes more in to depth of the Drake Equation and stuff but there is something else that’s interesting. The fact that we exist in no way means other intelligence has too. It could be just the fact that life hasn’t had a chance to evolve on another planet yet. This touch’s on the Fermi Paradox some as I’m sure you’ve heard of that. I’d absolutely love to see aliens in my lifetime but with our current technology we can’t even see a planets surface outside our solar system. Much less the insanely small light an animal would give off bc of its own sun. That’s the biggest problem

if the universe is infinite then there could be an exact carbon copy of you watching this video at the same time

oh god i know thats true as due to the universes infinite expansion eventually it might just copy stuff in a way with maybe slight differences, meaning this is a very possible thing, thats fucking terrifying@@theprehistoricnerd

Oooo, so deep and edgy. I bet you're a blast at parties.

Such peculiar creatures

@@xmikemurphyx 🤫

What

I feel you. If you have troubles with weltschmerz, nihilism or just lost faith in humanity in general don't forget: we will eventually manage to wipe ourselves out and everything will be good again.

That really depends if the ancestors of that creature were like early verterbrates. Which is not guaranteed. There might be some similarities, but the human body plan is not the only one which could make an effective intelligent creature. For example, the evolution of an articulate neck is not nescicary if you have eye stalks, more than one pair of eyes, or a long proboscis/trunk.

funny how that is sense when talking about a hypothetical creature with a hypothetical look 8) And how much of life on earth doesn't already have two arms, two legs etc?

Do you realize how many living things that evolved here on Earth don't have those things..?

Yeah but...we have only been the "dominant" life form for a very short span of time. Other more prevalent life forms exist or have existed. For instance the biomass of insects even six legged "hivemind" organisms like eusocial ants far exceed that of humans. What if evolution on such a planet selected for a hive intelligence of 16 legged multi-eyed social insectoid or crustacean due to slightly different evolutionary pressure?

But, the human body will slowly degrade in evolutionary traits because we rely too much on technology. For example sun screen, cellphones that give information etc.

Not gonna bing this guy sorry.. . . I have to wait for new episodes all the time

Why would you say you aren't going to lie? Unless you habitually lie, and need to clarify when you're being truthful.

@@xmikemurphyx it's a goofy way of saying it, a goober wouldn't understand

@@xmikemurphyx If you honestly don't know, then I apologize for the poking. Ngl is something people have made something of a meme out of, it is used to express that this is something someone may not normally admit.