Would You Consider the $10,000 Chinese BYD Seagull EV? 

We straight up can not compete, they will go out of business not have to lower their prices..

if you're the 1%

China's efficient manufacturing industry was slandered as overcapacity by Yellen. Trade protection will only make US companies lazier and fatter.

Our labor costs in this country would still price us out of the market. Cost of goods to build the vehicle is only half the issue

Convince congress to subsidize every EV made by $30,000 and you has an affordable ev car made in US. This is what China is doing to crush your manufacturing base.

I reside in the U.S.A. and wanted to purchase the BYD Seal.

the US elites want to ban chinese EVs in US they just tied the subsidies to Ukraine, to Israel and banning of chinese EVs into one single proposal together in congress in US so either to pass it to get all 3 or ban all 3

Hello! Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm glad you're enjoying your Dolphin. I was super impressed by the Seagull. Based on what I had heard, I figured the car would be good, but it was far, Far, FAR nicer than I ever expected. - Craig

Dolphin is safe also. It has the highest Euro NCAP safety score in its class.

@@seveglider8406 Drove the Seagull last week, I'm not new to EV's and have driven some recent ones (BMW iX, Audi Q8 eTron, Volvo XC40 and Jaguar iPace) I swear the Seagull feels just as well if not better put together than those, the design gets lots of compliments (I drove a light metallic blue), handling is soft but very sure footed and performance off the line makes a BMW M3 F80 feel somewhat sluggish. Here in Colombia we only get the dual motor 520hp version, it's priced a a bit over 60k USD, for our market that's a great price, about the same as a mid range 4 cylinder BMW 330 or a base C Class.

How come it's 19k and not 10K in Chile?

@@larryc1616 Every country has their own fcukery -- it's called politics...

​@@larryc1616 Import fees. Countries impose high import fees on Chinese cars, especially the West. Mostly this is because there's great suspicion regarding China subsidizing and forcing the market to be cheap, in capitalism this is called unfair competition and it breaks the system. It's not like it's the first time, China in the past suddenly FLODDED western markets with cheap steel, this led to many Western companies going bankrupt. It's doing the same now with solar panels and cars. Now you think "omg that's amazing! Better for us consumers in the West!" It's not that simple, mostly in the short term. Relying only on China because it's cheap for the West will lead to trade imbalances, job loss, and economic dependence (issues with security of the products and things like not being possible to enforce working conditions or quality standards etc). The solution is: tax them until prices are similar to western manufactures, which leads to consumers continuing to have choice of product (important for capitalism) because now you can buy a western one or a Chinese one for a similar price, and if you prefer the Chinese one, it will only boost tax revenue of the government which will benefit you and me. Note that states don't ban Chinese products (except the US, but the US is always special) they just want to prevent economic damage from these "flood products" exactly what China wants to happen. China is not doing it out of the goodness of their heart, ask all the African countries that are heavily indebted to China because of their goodness.

Yea but 23k is much more than 10k. makes it much less appealing for this glorified golf cart

I guess you'd have to ask BYD's representative in Chile about that.

wrrrr

Let’s go Brandon !

Looking at the BYD King (aka Chazor) PHEV, I think it could sell very well in Brazil and potentially become the best selling sedan in the country if priced right (it is only slightly more expensive than the Seagull in China). But here is what I'm thinking about regarding Brazil: BYD is moving very fast. They are replacing platforms every 3-4 years, whereas a typical automaker takes multiple times as long. Not just styling refreshes, which they do regularly, but new platforms. For example, the Song Plus/Seal U EV (launced in 2021 in China) is scheduled to be replaced with a new generation on the new EV 4.0 platform in China in August, a matter of months after being launched in some global markets. That does not give them much time to recouperate the investment... So, could BYD potentially be planning to ship all the current generation platform tooling to countries like Brazil, to update and manufacture for local markets? Other automakers have done similar in the past. This would let BYD take costs down even further. And, given their rate of updates, their cars would still be more advanced than most competitors.

@@larryevans6739 I'm not sure reusing old tooling to make the previous platform in Brazil (or any other of their factories) would be beneficial to BYD. The new platform isn't just about improving the technical characteristics, it also costs less to manufacture. EVs are still at the point where design and manufactures techniques are evolving crazily fast, bringing manufacturing costs down for those that can stay at the cutting edge. Anyone not on the cutting edge of manufacture is stuck with higher production costs, meaning they will likely have to sacrifice margins just to not be priced out of the market.

no such thing as bigx or not, doesnt matter

Average Americans have been ripped off by GM, Ford and Tesla for god knows how many years.

The US does not want to discuss long-term plans, and anything that happens four years from now has nothing to do with Biden.

Yes, Canada should follow Australia's lead and improve relationships with China plus accept these Chinese EV's, I'd take one or two in a heartbeat!

Improving relationship with China but angering USA? nah, not gonna happen

Canadian here. I'd buy one.

Canadian here as well and would likely buy one of these vs spending 4x the amount on the cheapest EV available in Canada

@@harissonbond7499 I have seen byd electric car on the road once here in Montreal, maybe imported by individual

sadly Elon have put too much money on lobbying. and the government have already denied inflation.

@@stefenleung Dirty politicians just don't care of inflation...

Inflation started by politicians. Who do you think is paying for the Chinese import duties?

You voting for biden or trump? Your answer is in one of those 2

@@bisdakboyzhub9150 I won’t vote this time. Cannot bear the fact of picking dementia over lying machine.

Janet Yellen complained. She should be locked up.

that's brutal bro🤣

But Biden would be convinced that this is definitely a major threat to US national security.

Oh really? And it doesn’t bother you that the Chinese use slave labor to produce vehicles so cheaply?

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

Thank you so much. We appreciate it! - Craig

@@craigcole5497 You are welcome sir.

I heard nothing about A/C or heat, and the effect those will have on the range. Also, what about the ride quality. Price isn't everything. One of the reasons it is priced so low is because all the tooling and research and development costs are paid by the government. In the US, the cost of developing the factories and tooling are adding to the cost. You can't just slap a motor and battery in a gas car and turn it into an EV.

@@tomnesler2089 yeah as if the government didnt give millions to tesla

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

They're getting stuffed with a bunch of things we would like, but don't need, without the option to drop it. BYD is showing how cheap it could be without the excess. It's what the majority have been asking for.

It has more to do with labor costs

In the US you dont earn 200$ / month and you dont have 5 days / year vacation,like in China

American car companies should be forced, by law, to tell the public how much each unit cost them to make! When the public sees the disparity & the profit they are making, prices should fall!

@@rongendron8705 They make less than 5% profit, often base model vehicles are sold at cost

I think drivers around the world are thirsting for real back-to-basics transportation, even in the U.S. Hell, I wouldn't mind a car with crank windows, a cowl vent and analog gauges. - Craig

@@craigcole5497 Whatever floats your boat

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@@zes7215 Try complete sentences

But Biden would be convinced that this is definitely a major threat to US national security.

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

@DukeFan99..It might be a spy carriage, if they can use balloon to spy what would stop them to utilize smething within the Car to spy on the great American Civilization, LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

It can't come soon enough. I want cheap low-cost transportation here in California!

@@1HeatWalk Have You seen the BYD Seal?

you need to speak to your politicians first 🤣

@@roddiechan I have continually written my elected officials about this and many other issues. Sadly too many members of Congress are bought and paid for by organizations who want to make sure China doesn't sell any cars in the U.S.A. They're OK with most of the other products China produces and markets here. If You're an American You should be angry about this because it affects You as much as every other American!

Never gonna happen.

no only EV, remember China enter market, it bring the price down. Your TV, wash machine, Friger and ect. Your cell phone, your internet, Now EV, in recent future, EV price will drop by 50% at least.

@@JJ-yg1sf Our Wages also fell. China mart put many small businesses in the US out of business. This is just the next phase of this. The problem for the west is systemic. The global system moves industry to asian for a quick buck and now they're starting to own the world.

China had 1.5 billons of slaves ,working for 200$ / month and had the right to take 5 days of vacation /year. Would you like that kind of working condition in US?

@@cristiangeorgescu1951 What a shame huh, but remember you have to work much much harder to maintain your quality of life without those cheap "slave product", from your cloths to your cell phone. Think about it, they are actually sacrificing their quality of life (if it is) for your enjoyment. Why complaint? Aftercall, it's all about economy.

Tuose slaves are adding 2.6 trillion a year to their saving every year. And its mostly automation in those EV factories now

the politicians just tied the subsidies to Ukraine, to Israel and banning of chinese EVs into one single proposal together in congress in US so either to pass it to get all 3 or ban all 3 will US stop aiding Israel? hell no, so, it will automatically banning BYD too

its from TV news here in China

The lobbying group of oil companies and the politicians they support: Don't touch our cake！

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

European cars are far too expensive here in New Zealand

But Biden would be convinced that this is definitely a major threat to US national security.

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

@@rcpmac what is the difference in safety?

actually, the smart Chinese have built factory on Mexico and with the America-Canada-Mexico trade agreement, it can technically dodge the tariff. It's same as why US still running when they claim a great reduction on the China import but in fact China goods just import to Mexico and then redirect to US. But the US government will abuse "nation security" for anything now regardless how ridiculous it's.

These people trash China quality, but actually they buy a lot of parts and components from China OEMs and rebrand as their own.

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

This or the Model 2. I just want a compact EV for commuting, and a small truck that has a full size bed. I'll have to get an old one and fix it up I think.

If the Seagull is ever sold in 'Murica, I think you'll be impressed by the build quality, comfort and interior materials. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Craig

wrrrr

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

Fords in the Phillipines are made in Thailand where labor is cheap, I think

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

Sadly, America is turning into the land of the not so free.

what? lol

And some Buicks and others. Strange how they’re not the target of the anti-China regulations.

Or everything bought and sold at Walmart, Costco, Sam's, home depot, drugstores, target, Amazon, ebay, every b&m and internet purchases?

Lotus and MG too

Covid the only thing out of China that lasted more than a fortnight.

US Volvo 60's and 90series are built here

different model

but it won't, thanks to the upcoming tariffs that will be increased to 100% in USA

@@user-uo5nu7jd6n Very true, if the tariffs come to pass (and as you state, probably will).

Tesla didn't cancel model 2. They are just extremely slow.

Yes but the auto and gas lobby doesn’t

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

There are only $10k BYD Seagulls in China and only so because of enormous government subsidy and lower standards of safety. They are preparing one to meet standards for export to Europe and it's over $20k.

U mean its a 20k car in us, in china it costs 10k.

Actually, in China it currently costs just shy of $10K after a 5% price reduction (a permanent one, not a sale). That is the list price, with no subsidies. Outside China it often costs double that. Which still makes it very worth the price. Case in point, here in Brazil the Seagull costs more than the Renault Kwid E-Tech (think a rebranded Dacia Spring). Nevertheless, the Seagull, from a Chinese company that a year ago was essentially unknown in Brazil, is selling close to 20x more that Renault's cheaper offering. Brazilian customers are finding the Seagull a much better value proposition despite it being about 15% more expensive than Renault's offering.

@@FabioCapela BYD gets money directly from the Gov in China for the subsidize, so its not the consumer see. The BYD ATTO3 in China is $16k. In Sweden the ATTO3 starts at $53k, which is more than a Model 3.

@@AndrewTSq Every vehicle manufacturer in Chian can get subsidize, Tesla the same. The reason oversea atto3 is much more expensive is due to taxes and dealer pricing. In Germany France Italy, the price is around 40k.

​@@AndrewTSqwow! Here in the Philippines the Atto3 is priced at around $32k. So I guess that's the reason I see a lot on the roads today just like it's little brother the BYD Dolphin 🐬

You are talking about NIO. They are the only big player in replaceable battery EV. NIO has some presence in Europe. I never heard about BYD producing EVs with replaceable battery.

lol

It's a 4-seater, can have a couple with 2 kids in the back. Mind you might be getting a bit cozy in such a small car.

I had the same question. Everyone just keeps talking about the price, but it's hard to beat the reliability of a Toyota or Honda

BYD EVs have been the City Taxi for more than a decade in Shenzhen

LFP battery

Nope.