WoW Classic Hardcore deaths are getting worse 

Would be cool but then you probably would end up loading everyone´s replays and inventory from all maps and realms and servers, not only from the dead, but the ones still alive.

The technology actually exists. Back during Vanilla the players skeletons would remain but people started using this system to "paint" inappropriate symbols onto the floor.

@@bitbraindev True, had forgot about that. Still they would manage to mess up, they always do.

I see a game world, and I want to paint it red.

I totally approve

Was looking at that priest's mana bar and thinking "Why are you running?"

@@TorauthTo cheat and hide obviously

Pally?

the priest spent a whole day commenting under the original clip how he owned the pala and that he was in fact not the priest commenting

Or, very simple, don't accept random makgora invites. That's just stupid.

Pick up groups are riotously risky! If I join a PUG and see them running off to different locations, I immediately just disband.

@@swallowedinthesea11 personally i pull everything and feign death if they arent up to my speed

@@peepogob perfectly normal pick up behaviour. thanks for your service, dear hunter.

@@peepogob It's been 19 years and hunters haven't changed at all.

@@Icemario87 they only got dumber

I thought it was carrying a shotgun with you at all times or not going at all.

To be safe, when you travel, always bring a friend, for case like this

As an Alaskan who has encountered a lot of bears. The secret to surviving a bear attack is being more aware of your surroundings to begin with, and also carrying a .45-70 lever action marlin. But yeah meme quotes work too I guess until you're actually in that situation cause most of you aren't doing much running.

@@TyyTheFlyGuyit’s just a joke mate…

​@TyyTheFlyGuy oh ya ur such a badass, man.

At least went doing what he loved

that priest really chose the ONE class that has enough survavibility to make them go OOM but still have a full health bar lol.

I also love how they keep attacking the mobs, delaying the reset.

Don't forget most of them ignore the environment, which they can use to their advantage, too. A few of them could've used a stone to line of sight a spellcaster, or jumped a fence to make the mobs run around, but nah - it'll be fine...

panic is a helluva drug

zoomed in to near 1st person perspective

not to mention theyre all perma dazed cuz they dont strafe :p

I survived it!! But I still expect to die at some point. Have a level 13 horde druid eeeeep

I almost died in skull rock myself, faintly glowing skull saved my warriors hide

Or is it just that the clickers are the ones also making other stupid mistakes?

man its vanilla lol it takes literally zero skill to play vanilla.

@@andrecardoso6941 I think you are using word "literally" wrong. It takes some skill to use it correctly although not much. By looking the clips, it's obvious that people make mistakes, which implies that it requires at least tiny bit skill.

@@ManWithoutThePants what are you on about?

@@andrecardoso6941he’s on about your high school education and lack of vocabulary.

What if you group with a total moron that gets your character dead?

@@Ithilionif they pull an entire group that you know for a fact will kill you , just don’t hit them ???

Exactly ... like people just sit there and fight to tag mobs for quests instead of grouping .... retail scrubs

Even playing solo, I talk to people and make friends, not like you have to play with other people in a group to do that.

games dead anyways. doesnt matter.

Most death are avoidable, but when you're surprised and panicking, your decisions get significantly worst. Most people will have avoidable death, wether it's because of lack of skill, or knowledge, or wisdom. Or, like in some of these clips, because of not being able to stay cool-headed in the face of sudden danger. That's why you should always prepare for the worst.

I have never played WoW so i dont understand, why do people even get themselves in these kindof situations? Basically doing "parkour" ingame? Or is this just a part of the game that you have to go through?

@Gangsta2330 There is no main quest so you don't have to do any quest that you think is too sketchy, but it does take knowledge of the game. There is no reason to do parkour, I don't even know what that guy was doing on that tree 😅 Also being lower level than enemies is punishing, so its okay to come back to them later on.

That first death was more than avoidable. regardless of the fact that he was trying to sneak up he shouldnt have been right on the edge of the branch. that guy was basically begging to fall off

At one point, you're like been playing for 4-5hours, maybe 20 with your character. Everything is going smoothly, its easy and the sense of danger is just a little off. You can make a mistake and manage to survive using your knowledge of the game. But one time, its THAT one pull that seal the deal and get you killed. After that, you know you were cocky, lazy, trying to get faster xp on a quest, etc. Azeroth have no feeling for weakness. You need to stay in that mindset without never having a little moment off

I haven't played WoW in a long time, but back in the day when I played if you tried to name your character the same name as someone else, it would tell you that name is taken and not let you create a character. Is that not a thing anymore?

He's explained that won't solve the problem. The solution is to scrap hardcore altogether so hardcore griefers don't exist.

@@daniamataka5377 whatever man, a griefer should get banned or suspended for griefing

@@aarona5111 You sound like a politician. Job creation for the griefer police. Class act! 🇺🇲🇮🇱🇬🇧🇨🇳🇨🇰

​@@Icemario87to be fair, politicians only demand stuff that doesn't benefit society as a whole.

Sure hope so

But not for the bait duel, right? I suppose this was just the tip of the iceberg of who knows what other shady stuff he did.

That's just dumb. Might as well ban everyone then. Nobody forced the paladin to accept a random makgora invite.

I'm not personally advocating for bans but,the palace got the 72hr debuff(it's a playtime debuff too) for leaving the duel and that priest has the same energy as the good old Nigerian prince's so,idk a debuff transfer to him would be an appropriate punishment imo and obviously a level cap in mak'oras

I don't know whether you saw, but all of those mobs cause a very long aoe silence and it didn't seem to have any kind of diminishing cooldown... In short, he was silenced the whole fucking desperate trip towards the entrance of that cave.

@@TheParez no shot he was silenced enough to justify that, he cast a bunch of pointless spells throughout, he could've 100% survived that if he'd started with mana shield

You mean a r1 mage and one of the best players in wow history? Surely he did it wrong and you would have done it right.

@@mitchellcarter2799 Even the best players out there are not Gods, and no I can't pretend I would've done better under the pressure... still, he objectively fucked up and could've done it. Especially as you mention, with someone of Xaryu's skill level

I am one

wonder if youll still say that once you actually stare at a bussy in person

bussies are nicer in person @@Pillshere31

The first one is hella fake.

@@thefunkylordwedgeyeah no way that was real like he definitely intentionally fell down.

i dont remember that being the case and i cant find patchnotes or documantation about shadow form preventing fall damage Falldamage always ignored absorbtion like powerword shield so its very unlikely but to have been normal physical damage that got prevented by shadowform please link me stuff if you can find something more it

@@damnvier3897 It was just something I found out on my own back then. Assumed it was physical dmage since it was shadow form that stopped it. As for patch notes, I have no idea. It was around until TBC at least. Cannot remember after that. Similar to how you could talk to the opposite faction if you mind controlled them, then /emote “your message”. Found that out on my own. Once I made a high level alliance rogue friend (I was an undead priest) using this one day, and we went around Westfall killing alliance. I would mind control them, then he would kill them. It was amazing. People made a post on the forums complaining about us.

The way this was written makes no sense.

@@degeneratemafia What's confusing you?

Vanilla Shdowform was 15%. Clearly didn't play Vanilla.

My brother did the exact same thing when he began, I'll let him know he is no longer alone.

Assuming they've played retail and not taking into account +w/e mythic runs, classic overall is waaaay more unforgiving then retail outside of raids/dungeons, you almost have to try to die in retail, still most deaths were kinda dumb from kb turning to clicking essential skills

Much of the problem stems from the fact that Retail and Classic are two entirely different games. Sure, they both say "World of Warcraft" on the title screen, but 19 years worth of changes from the original game to what we have now has drastically transformed it. You cannot approach Classic with a Retail mindset as many skills are different in 2023 versus 2004, players can survive a ton more punishment while doing far more damage, etc. 19 years worth of power creep, rebalancing, and the addition of level scaling has really done some strange things to WoW. It isn't that Classic is harder, but it can be a slower and more methodical experience. Some vets have forgotten just how much the game changed in nearly 19 years, then they get a massive reality check once they log onto Classic. Meanwhile, you've got players that have NEVER experienced Classic at all. Anyone that has ONLY played the game from Legion onward is going to be in for an extremely rude awakening. I have no doubts that some of the repeat offenders in these videos that keep making the same boneheaded mistakes again and again are players that never experienced WoW pre-Legion. In hindsight, I'd say Mists is the point where the two versions of the game are fairly balanced in that you can't expect to run around like an idiot and survive, yet you can generally get away with bigger than normal pulls within reason. From that point, the closer you go in either direction, then the more like Classic/Current Retail the game becomes.

You can transfer dead characters to non hc realms for free.

The sad part is "wasted". You had fun, and knew that this was literally the point of the hc server. The game is the journey, not destination :)

Are you aware that all of yours hours playing games are wasted? Nothing you do on normal wow servers matters bro.

@@Hamsammich111 there might be some issues with that. my warrior i transferred. i can do one of the quest i was on, I abandoned the quest and re-started it in non-hc but still doesnt work. not sure if its just me or if this will be a issue with some things

Wow another person upset about other people having fun. Who would have thought

Yeah that’s definitely malicious af and should get people banned for 7 days if they try that shit

Nah

Not at all, he tried to kill a lvl 1. Why even accept that challenge

Why can there be same name in the first place? Or is it a character trick like FakeVlrus and FakeVirus .. I remember that trick from Diablo 2 hardcore 20+ years ago :)

​@@aksethey use special characters in one of the names. You have to type a code in when creating your toon. Some special characters are hard to notice

Dead bodies get deleted every week at maintenance.

I get that some of these mechanics are opaque, but it amazes me how few people understand how evading mobs, resets, and the like work.

Not that simple lol. Some safe spots definitely do reset mobs and it can take varying amounts of time. I used to reset mobs from safe spots in ZF (while farming trash in the graveyard) and ZG (while farming bloodvine) all of the time.

He knows that lol, he was camping in it outside of attack range for like 20sec before where this clip starts, they didn’t reset, they came melee when he tried moving a little

I guess this goes to show you just how much real stress can effect your decision-making. Xaryu was a flawless duelist in classic but here he is dying with half his mana left.

I kept asking myself why people were running away instead of backwards to NOT get dazed lol.

so if you overpull then the play is to just backpedal and not hit the mobs until they de-aggro? Can't get dazed and you can still dodge/parry since the mobs are hitting you in the front? @@Ishlacorrin

@@57precision That's how I used to play it back in Original Classic, unless the game has changed greatly then it should still work half decent. Of course if you can LoS for a sec, or drop off a small elevation level so you can run with your back turned but out of melee range then that is better.

Oh, yes! And later in Dire Maul, too.

It's an incredible experience. But also life sucking. Make sure you have time for it.

agreed, not the first time he has done this. gotta milk the HC piggies before he falls into the barely 1k andy category again.

bro who cares?

Its the only reason to watch streamers play this cringe mode.

What a bunch of haters!

Lol people are toxic, he wanted to say he did it first try.

Sounds like you've got your priorities all lined up. That'll be a Sausage McMuffin, a hashbrown and a large coffee, black. Can you not forget to put napkins in the bag this time? Yes, that'll be all.

@@Sasq420 I dont understand what you mean, are you having a stroke?

You shouldn't reveal yourself xD Cmon, clicking spells on your main action bar? You dont have keyboard? xD

I mean it's not like it's league or anything. 99% of pve combat is static and doesn't necessitate 0.1 ms reaction time. With the basic cooldown I have more than enough time to move the mouse on my next spell/ability. Plus you know I have keyboard as I turned with it ^^

@@Chanoran But if you don't limit yourself to having to mouse over and click your abilities, you can use your mouse to navigate your camera or keep it free for target switching or anything else you might need. Why play sub-optimally and risk dying in a game where death is permanent?

@@Chanoran imagine arguing in favour of clicking

@@RandomCarrot2806 I switch targets using tab most of the time. But yeah I can understand the usefulness of using keyboard macros in certain situations. Here I don't think it would have change much though ^^

it still baffles me that people judge others how they play a computer game how long has this game been out now? and thats what you get hung up on with other players? whats next you judge console players for playing with controllers? lol

@@garycannon4644 So you got hung into the first part of the message and didn't see the part where it warm my heart to still see this?

@@IronSoul91YT well shit, i done goofed

how can u suck at a 20 year old game? its so easy and the reward for getting 60 is unexistant

Are you level 60 yet?

​@@humbled289imagine thinking someone has to play HC to criticize it 😂 sorry but a lot of us rightfully put down WoW a long time ago

Retail has harder raids. Classic has harder open world content. I don't play either but that's just reality. Stupid to compare the difficulty of caves lol.

mobs on classic are individually stronger than on retail for sure, but on retail, one cave worth of mobs have more mechanics than the entirety of molten core. Classic is more of a stat game, retail is more of a skill game, that's just a fact. You could not get away with keyboardturning and clicking in any sort of endgame activity on retail, yet people are clearing mostly all classic raids while still clicking abilities and standing in fire.

@nordfald3740 I keyboard turned my way through BfA and got CE Nzoth. Not a clicker though. The monk and fire mage duo bosses from BoD was probably the only problem with that one mechanic.

From a business perspective, that's really not a bad idea!

@@swallowedinthesea11 I'm surprised it's not there already. With small print saying it's only 1 res per month 🤣

if you hit a mob, it will reset the leash and it will chase you for the same distance as if you just started running. some other factors can also change leashing distance, but that is the main one.

@@tree4104 i was a druid i feel like maybe having thorns buff on me prolonged him chasing me?

​Could be a possibility indeed. It should be easy to verify with low level mobs. Get aggro and run. One time with thorns up and onetime without. If the difference is big enough, you should be able to figure out if the thorns damage changes anything.

😂