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WoW Vanilla Patch 1.1 - What Was It Like? 

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@Sorenzo
@Sorenzo 6 лет назад
Having to figure out every quest yourself is precisely the thing I missed the most. It was a ton of fun to explore without following quest markers, and to share your discoveries with other people. Created community.
@CobaltContrast
@CobaltContrast 8 месяцев назад
I have an intenral timer like... I played JRPGs back in the 90s and 2000s so at some point I'm just going to look it up. But I like that it doesn't just tell me.
@rickybindahoose6193
@rickybindahoose6193 5 часов назад
Even going to Thottbot was better because it felt like you were also researching about the game, not just following a question mark on a map.
@meephie9664
@meephie9664 6 лет назад
Another thing about hunters Feign Death, if you stayed feigned for the full duration of the timer, you would actually die when it ran out. Learnt that the hard way lol
@howlingzangetsu
@howlingzangetsu 5 лет назад
Meephie so it was a “feign until you actually die” ability, good to know
@clawhammr666
@clawhammr666 5 лет назад
howlingzangetsu Fake it 'till you make it!... wait
@madskills84
@madskills84 5 лет назад
This totally makes sense since your probably holding your breath and slowing down your heart rate.
@DeviousWizard
@DeviousWizard 5 лет назад
You basically held your breath I guess :P
@Andrew-qu7lq
@Andrew-qu7lq 4 года назад
I forgot about that one.
@atrumblood
@atrumblood 6 лет назад
I miss vanilla wow. I remember how awestruck I was over how vast the environment was. Wish I could play it for the first time all over again.
@huntmastergutentag557
@huntmastergutentag557 6 лет назад
yes, but where is mankrik's wife?
@Sulucion6Tone
@Sulucion6Tone 6 лет назад
south by the hut east of the road
@SuperSkandale
@SuperSkandale 6 лет назад
His not in the Barrens I tell you.
@OreallyR17
@OreallyR17 6 лет назад
inb4 they forgot to add her in 1.1
@washo2996
@washo2996 6 лет назад
In Onyxia's boss room
@paigechamberlain5725
@paigechamberlain5725 6 лет назад
"In my basement next to your mom, scrub." Then something involving Chuck Norris blah blah. Because everyone here is getting Barrens chat wrong.
@edv5918
@edv5918 6 лет назад
As a vanilla hunter, I remember you could go tame rare beast and they would be stronger and retain stronger skills than your average joe beast.
@v-7815
@v-7815 6 лет назад
Sounds nice and all but in the end it came down to having the best in slot pet. All raiding hunter back then had the same freaking pet. There was no diversity whatsoever Thats why I preffer the new system way more.
@Goodnews4man
@Goodnews4man 6 лет назад
Fear the Rake!
@04138
@04138 6 лет назад
Remember seeing Alliance trying to get Echeyakee from the Horde quest.
@mercenaryforhire3453
@mercenaryforhire3453 6 лет назад
I remember flying snakes from the barrens having a lightning ability (and I got a rare silver coloured one =D)
@CILinkzSpre3
@CILinkzSpre3 6 лет назад
Broken tooth all the way guys. only Pet with 1.0 Attackspeed, a NIGHTMARE for any casters to deal with
@elmirza3228
@elmirza3228 6 лет назад
"Yea, thats right" "Oh yea" "I know, its really hard to grasp" "Let that sink in for a moment" "Yea, you guessed it"
@zach6395
@zach6395 6 лет назад
Rules to playing Vanilla WoW: 1. Roll a warrior, rogue, or mage 2. Play Disturbed in the background and make sure your fellow raiders can hear it over your headset. 3. Call everyone else a noob even though everyone, including yourself, was a noob 4. You run from elite mobs in the open world. 5. Make sure you have food with you, you're gonna need it
@bmcginnis6543
@bmcginnis6543 5 лет назад
Roll undead lock and you never have to run from anything
@IanBow
@IanBow 5 лет назад
sounds like d&d heh
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 лет назад
Warriors are overrated. Fury/arms were forced into tanking the majority of the time for 5 mans (Or you don't get to run them) and even offtank in many fights for pretty much every raid, were the slowest and most painful class to level up, and were the worst farming class by a landslide. They were common and fury had high dps... but holy crap.. imo they deserved it after the pure hell they went through.
@vladtepes9614
@vladtepes9614 5 лет назад
I played an undead lock. Rogues hated me, lol.
@julesweber4776
@julesweber4776 5 лет назад
ROFL! Good one!
@Okipouros
@Okipouros 5 лет назад
That +21 intellect gave a reason for every druid in the game to say "shadow craft is also meant for druids"
@bodycounter9386
@bodycounter9386 4 года назад
Uhm, the shadow craft set is really good for every feral druid. I see no reason not to go for it, if it fits your playstyle.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 6 лет назад
Whaat 5 second cast for holy fire? lol
@sap_mt
@sap_mt 6 лет назад
Top 10 useless spells P.S. Love your vids man
@donmakavelithuglife9058
@donmakavelithuglife9058 6 лет назад
yes it was great
@marcothegiant9069
@marcothegiant9069 6 лет назад
hirumared
@stopperzapper
@stopperzapper 6 лет назад
And people want this back lol
@Xeriess
@Xeriess 6 лет назад
Urukosh,said someone with 16 subs and average 20 views per vid XD
@powerfulnoun2608
@powerfulnoun2608 6 лет назад
Brings back some memories for me, cool vid man.
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
Thanks man!
@xenriot
@xenriot 4 года назад
Hamsterwheel: stacks up to 5 times. Game: *15001 times*
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 4 года назад
Hahaha yeah the old databases always got that wrong for some reason
@xenriot
@xenriot 4 года назад
@@HamsterWheelGaming xd
@Phourke2Spork01110000
@Phourke2Spork01110000 6 лет назад
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this but when I played an alliance priest back in vanilla, I liked helping out the horde as mc helped buff and heal players that needed helping was a nice little trick back in the day.
@albert42001
@albert42001 6 лет назад
at 1:30 - nope you are wrong. There were no AHs in all the cities, only Ironforge and Orgrimmar had them
@Redlink01
@Redlink01 6 лет назад
this is true
@frostychocolatemilkshakes2944
@frostychocolatemilkshakes2944 6 лет назад
Ironforge felt more like the capital than Stormwind did. I only started playing during patch 1.11, and even then Ironforge was always packed with players and lag.
@izicial7469
@izicial7469 6 лет назад
Ya it was somewhere in the middle of 1.1-1.12 that all the cities had AHs but they did at one point work in the way described in the video.
@jayjayn1000
@jayjayn1000 6 лет назад
Lorraine Masillo iF still has lag for no reason at all lmfao
@dodgykebaab
@dodgykebaab 6 лет назад
Wrong. Stormwind AH was added in patch 0.8
@TapirHoliday
@TapirHoliday 6 лет назад
Nice video! Seems liked you've upped your production quality ! Keep it up ! love your content ^_^
@647586
@647586 6 лет назад
My memory tells me that while you could take 10 people into scholo and strat, the quests for those dungeons were 5 man quests, so they couldn't be completed if you went in there with a 10 man raid.
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 2 месяца назад
you could actually take 40 people into dungeons.. i am not kidding... dunno when the quest requirements went to 5 men though, but probably not in 1.1 edit in 1.3 it was limited to 10
@asmileyface199
@asmileyface199 6 лет назад
I remember having one Pally spec'd Ret in those early day raid. His only job during the entire raid was to buff people with Kings over, and over again. Great video. Brings back good memories of how daunting early WoW was. I haven't played in years but I'm curious to see what happens with this new Classic WoW.
@TyrannicalNoob
@TyrannicalNoob 6 лет назад
Amazing video I couldn't imagine how long this took and how tedious this was, the editing was kept up throughout the whole video in such a seamless fashion. So much props hopes this vid gets 1m+ views you deserve it.
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
Thanks man! And for your information, I think this video owes me a total of 50 hours of work
@TyrannicalNoob
@TyrannicalNoob 6 лет назад
Hamsterwheel holy fuck dude, so much respect that's a lot of time
@chunkybabbit5734
@chunkybabbit5734 6 лет назад
An Important one you forgot for warlocks. Dots did not disappear on caster death, and fear did not break on damage. Also, fear was so wonky, sometimes you'd fear people so far, you lost them over terrain
@Treaxvour
@Treaxvour 4 года назад
This version would have been hilarious for classic 😂
@ZFH123
@ZFH123 6 лет назад
This all sounds awesome as hell! Thanks for summarizing, can't wait :)
@Izriel2k1
@Izriel2k1 6 лет назад
You talked about unstoppable forces knock back but it wasnt even in thr game at 1.1
@Eliaso79
@Eliaso79 6 лет назад
Comes with AV and he said it wasnt there...^^
@Dropaprayer
@Dropaprayer 6 лет назад
Was hoping someone else caught that
@OffKors
@OffKors 5 лет назад
Whenever you see real weird items like the rogue set with int on it, this might not just be because of feral druids. Back in alpha warlocks were supposed to be a melee type caster that could wear leather. A lot of items were simply left over from that period. Look at the old firestone for example. A summoned spellstone that not only increased fire damage but it procced fire damage on melee. That one was in vanilla for a long time.
@mitchellgaudet6672
@mitchellgaudet6672 5 лет назад
This is my all time favorite video of yours hamster! & I've watched them all! lol This one is really well done, I love coming back and re-watching it every month or so. patch 1.1 was a mess ahahahaha what a time to play the game
@Vitomazzarino
@Vitomazzarino 6 лет назад
Some corrections/notes/other stuff: At launch, only Orgrimmar and Ironforge had auction houses. This is a big reason why these cities became the central hub for the faction. Gadgetzan had the neutral auction house. When the auction house NPCs were added to other cities, they fed into the existing 3. There were never parallel auction houses in the same faction. At launch, all instances were "40 man raids". You could roll into Strath with 40 people if you wanted to, although you couldn't complete any quests unless they were flagged as "raid". This was really helpful with Blood of the Black Dragon Champion because it dropped for only one person per raid and guilds could 40 man faceroll UBRS multiple times in a row to finish Onyxia attunements. To raid Molten Core, the entire raid had to march through BRD together to the raid portal. There are similar raid-with-a-dungeon portals for UBRS/BWL and Strat/Naxx, but they were never used as this whole dungeon/raid group design changed before those raids came out. In addition to being able to freely swap your armor in combat, swapping your weapon did not force a universal cooldown. This was added at the same time as a fundamental combat mechanic change for instant attacks (such as Mortal Strike and Backstab) to prevent using a simple macro to take advantage of a weapon speed exploit. With this change, the Barman's Shanker dagger went from a popular pre-raid BiS weapon to useless. Black Lotus originally bind on pickup. Flasks were largely ignored until this change. The high rank rewards were weaker when the honor system was first introduced. Fortunately, all of these items were buffed to the final versions before anyone could grind to rank 14. All tier 1 and 2 armor sets were different (usually worse) than the final versions. The warrior tier 1 set had DPS stats, for example. Various tier 2 items dropped in Molten Core. None of the sets had unique graphics. All classes had a patch where their talents/skills received a major update. The "weakest" classes were changed first. Warlocks did not have a useful demonology tree and Death Coil was not in the game before the class update. Druids were given multiple new skills (Barkskin and Frenzied Regeneration) that did not require talents with the class update. Protection warriors and beast hunters were not useful at all until the class updates. I believe rogues were changed last, coming fairly close to the Burning Crusade launch.
@javierescuella9634
@javierescuella9634 6 лет назад
nobody cares
@LeiRaion
@LeiRaion 6 лет назад
Vito you are incorrect about AHs... unless I am misunderstanding your wording... when the other AHs were added they were indeed separated from the originalls. For example, Thunder Bluff AH was NOT linked to Org's AH or any other AH.
@Vitomazzarino
@Vitomazzarino 6 лет назад
wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.9.0 IF, Org, and Gadget had AH buildings and NPCs at release. AH NPCs did not exist in any other city, then this patch added the linked AH NPCs to the other cities. At no point did you have access to 3 independent faction and 3 neutral AHs. I do not fondly remember checking 3 major cities for a Hand of Edward the Odd with my shaman every day because nobody had to do that ever. IF, Org, and Gadget are all designed with large, featured AH buildings while every other city just had their NPCs thrown in a corner or in an unused small tent/building because there was no spot for them in the original design. The UC auctioneers "Orly" and "Yarly" date their addition to the game to an owl meme that wasn't around at WoW's original release. I don't know what to tell you other than that.
@tracesigns9933
@tracesigns9933 6 лет назад
I think the first patch after I joined the game as a clueless teen was Tier 2 going from random items to its still-iconic appearances ofc I wouldn't get any of those appearances until years later and transmog but still, it was a cool and motivating patchnotes to read
@Bollibompa
@Bollibompa 6 лет назад
+Grizzly Adams Anyone that watches the video cares. Unless you are an idiot, of course. Are you an idiot?
@thecombinearecoming
@thecombinearecoming 6 лет назад
the auction houses weren't linked, because there was only one auction house per faction, from what i've heard. horde only had org and alliance only had ironforge. so it's not that they weren't linked, it's just that the other cities didn't have auction houses at all
@izicial7469
@izicial7469 6 лет назад
They did add other AH people in the other cities though I don't remember what patch this happened in.
@hazerdoescrap
@hazerdoescrap 6 лет назад
I don't remember if it was in at launch, but there was the neutral AH in Gadgetzan which was the only way you could sell cross-faction. And then yeah, later on the other major cities got an AH that was faction specific and much later on it was made 'universal'...
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 6 лет назад
If I remember correctly, there was only one auction house per faction and a shared one in Gadgetzan. When they added auction houses in all the capital cities, they were not linked at first, then they realized this was dumb and linked them in the next patch or two.
@Jotalequ
@Jotalequ 6 лет назад
Ah, No, the Gadgetzan auction house was open and neutral both factions could use it and DID use it to trade, I was one of them. I made A LOT of cash from that.
@praexil395
@praexil395 6 лет назад
True. There was a place for an AH in SW and I imagine TB, but in SW there was either a sign or a guard that said coming soon. But I remember there only being an AH in IF for the longest time.
@Furyswipes
@Furyswipes 6 лет назад
Incredible vid quality and content...LIKE
@Warrax22
@Warrax22 6 лет назад
Some corrections about the Warrior (I played a Warrior at release): -Deathwish could prevent fear if Deathwish was already up, it was also usable while feared but it didn't remove fear due to a bug, not design. -Shield Bash was available in zerk stance because Pummel wasn't yet implemented. The next 2 aren't correction but honorable mentions: -40% enrage with unlimited hits for the duration (very op) -Mortal Strike was 200% weapon damage (very op). -Fury was a 2h spec like Arms, there was no Dual Wield talents.
@Diablist
@Diablist 5 лет назад
And the recklessness CD hahahahaa
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 5 лет назад
10:19 : Although there was no buyback TAB, you COULD buy back the last one (1) item you sold to the vendor -- that's what the little item window in the lower-right of the vendor dialog box was for.
@8izen
@8izen 6 лет назад
Man life was so good back when I played this game and every class couldn't also do everything.
@miramalverick2767
@miramalverick2767 6 лет назад
life was so good? you are a masochist, simple as that
@Legion852
@Legion852 5 лет назад
@@vulpesnox8694 TBC was golden years Fuck anything after it. Vanilla was also just plain fun tho I think honestly allot of people remember it being allot fo fun mostly because nobody new anything about it , Now that we do i have a feeling when classic comes out people are gonna be like WTF.
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 5 лет назад
@@vulpesnox8694 pretty much this,rogues where OP caus they had all the tools for pvp,warriors needed soo much gear to pvp properly...
@blardmann
@blardmann 3 года назад
no it wasn't. it sounds like shit :)
@Faarrest
@Faarrest 6 лет назад
There is so much more worth mentioning for the Warrior class. 1. Fury was not a viable DPS spec as Bloodthirst was a passive that activated after killing a mob, increasing the damage of your next attack by 100% (not next ability, so white damage could consume it too) 2. Protection was not useful for tanking. All good tanks instead went Fury (with some points in Protection for Last Stand) to increase that important Threat while spamming Sunder Armor. Shield Slam was not the 31p talent.
@Bullhammer
@Bullhammer 6 лет назад
Another thing worth mentioning about warriors is that the enrage used to grant 40% extra damage, instead of 25%. Later it got nerfed and I remember many warriors whining about it.
@mrtown
@mrtown 5 лет назад
Every warrior went 31/5/15 at level 60 before the Shield Slam rework, deep protection was useless before then.
@justinokraski3796
@justinokraski3796 5 лет назад
I fondly remember warriors being the premier tank class
@evandavis5223
@evandavis5223 6 лет назад
I didn't have to imagine. I was the only pally on a MC run. Literally half my time was spent casting blessings. The other half was cleansing and rezzing. That was the extent of pally's use in raids.
@Thermalburn
@Thermalburn 2 дня назад
I started playing around 1.11, but man it must have been such an experience to play right at the beginning. No one knew anything, everything was new, and the world probably held so much wonderment and things to be discovered for the first time
@dodgykebaab
@dodgykebaab 6 лет назад
Nice, really good video.
@tristamfs3542
@tristamfs3542 6 лет назад
Didnt know you had time to watch other videos in the time you spent gettin bribed by private servers to give good reviews
@Cru7Vchy4pple
@Cru7Vchy4pple 6 лет назад
Clegane Land Your statement is part of the reason why this community is such an ungratious pile of toxic shit.
@tristamfs3542
@tristamfs3542 6 лет назад
Just told the truth, this guy pretends to " help" the community by giving private server reviews. People trust him, while in the background hes getting money and gives fake reviews cause HE GETS PAID FOR THEM.
@tristamfs3542
@tristamfs3542 6 лет назад
He screws over servers that dont pay him, and accuse them of dislike botting etc just cause they didnt pay him to give a good review
@tristamfs3542
@tristamfs3542 6 лет назад
The server he accused of dislike botting is a server i used to play on. Its absolute shit now, but back when Dodgy started all this shit with them, they were quite good.
@swenzor
@swenzor 6 лет назад
Give me swirly ball as a rogue or give me death. Also I have a vague memory of res sickness being a disease so shamans could just dispel it when they ankhed. Makes it sound a little less horrible to ankh then waiting 10 minutes. Still I get your point and the video as a whole was a good one, some things even I didn’t know. Also how long did hunters defend their pets chasing after you in stealth as their pet sniffing you out?
@cutlass1234
@cutlass1234 6 лет назад
OMFG. I have been trying to find pictures of the old tier 1 set graphics forever. Does anyone have a higher res version of the picture?
@GoobleGaming
@GoobleGaming 5 лет назад
Thank you for that nostalgic and wonderful video :)
@keineangabe8993
@keineangabe8993 5 лет назад
Wait, if Battlegrounds didn't exist, how could pets not be revived in battlegrounds?
@Papapalpatin
@Papapalpatin 5 лет назад
Keine Angabe he clearly said “in a later stage in the game”
@Desciple860
@Desciple860 5 лет назад
Who else remembers South shore PVP? Lol where you lagged coming in on the flight path 👍😂😂😂
@algenomen
@algenomen 6 лет назад
I leveled many characters at patch 1.1. I always had this goal for myself that I needed to get level 6 within the first hour and level 10 within 2.5 hours. It was always quite the challange.
@Andrew-qu7lq
@Andrew-qu7lq 4 года назад
Paladins also didn't have forbearance from Divine Shield, so you could chain together Blessing of Protection and Divine Shield back to back, or multiple paladins could keep a single person covered with BoP multiple times. Also, in general, a lot of classes had major talent tree changes during the first year or so.
@Tergeron
@Tergeron 5 лет назад
If you're going to mention that arcane explosion needed to be spec'd into so that it would be instant cast, you need to also include the fact that evocation used to be the 11 pt "gold talent" for arcane and it was not baseline until a later patch. This is a big part of the reason for why mages almost always went 11 points deep into arcane early on.
@justinokraski3796
@justinokraski3796 5 лет назад
POM-Pyro was super popular if you weren't going into frost
@ZodVisto
@ZodVisto 6 лет назад
1.1 lasted about a month
@smallpseudonym2844
@smallpseudonym2844 5 лет назад
For many classes a lot of these oddities lasted until their class revamp.
@Alexandros.Mograine
@Alexandros.Mograine 4 года назад
1.2 wasnt much different
@charlieartaus4011
@charlieartaus4011 6 лет назад
Nice video man :D you beat me to it when it comes to vanilla patch videos!
@befraney528
@befraney528 6 лет назад
Man vanilla was so much fun. You forgot to mention the EPIC city raids, Tauren Mills and Crossroads battles that would organically happen before Blizzard make designated pvp areas. This was also a time when most WoW players were former EQ players, so it didn't seem at all "terrible" to us. That was just MMO gaming.
@ghaffir
@ghaffir 6 лет назад
Us who played in 2004 remember the world PVP as some of the most fun in WoW. We might not have gotten rank or gear but we had something far better. We had HOURS of so fun PVP.with 100-200 players on each side going at each other. I know many newer players say they wanna play vanilla. 90% of them will give up before lvl 60.
@TheShadowKnight1003
@TheShadowKnight1003 6 лет назад
Im super confused about people who claim "vanilla world pvp was the best" because there is LITERALLY nothing stopping you from doing it now even in legion...the fact is that people liked the early vanilla world pvp because they were impromptu BGs, except with no objectives and just a mindless, cluster fuck of spells being cast in every direction. if you really wanted you could easily get a bunch of people from the forums and organize a large scale battle in the open world. See, when BGs were introduced IN VANILLA, is when those battles began to fall in number and frequency, because players realized that getting to do the same killing, but getting ranks and gear, and having objectives in the battle was just more fun and rewarding. That's my observation though as player who only ever experienced vanilla through private servers.
@salmahyenasashimicheetah6888
@salmahyenasashimicheetah6888 6 лет назад
As long as it isn't PVP only, I wouldn't quit. As long as there are Normal servers, I wouldn't mind.
@MrDagren
@MrDagren 5 лет назад
I don't think I really saw that many large battlegrounds form between Southshore and Tarren Mill until HKs were introduced. Since at the time that was probably the best place to get them. Until HKs were introduced, I think most of the World PvP I saw was people raiding capitals. And people did that for the reward of getting to post on the forum that your guild killed all enemy faction bosses.
@tripnils7535
@tripnils7535 5 лет назад
Tophat Jones no you can't really do that in retail anymore because it's really different with phasing/sharding/connected realms. Back then you would know your enemies because everything is on the same server, you ran into the same enemies all the time, you had hate-lists of enemies for your sweet revenge. It was the golden age of world PVP.
@Korrix13
@Korrix13 5 лет назад
YES!
@Pagnah
@Pagnah 6 лет назад
How the might have fallen ... The game was amazing back then. Actual relations, you had to explore the world, you cared about dungeons and its drops (which was limited), you became friends with a lot of people, World PvP (excitement, always had to look over your shoulder in contested areas), actual elites around the map and group quests you couldn't solo and one shot, and so on. The game was actually hard back then, in another way. You felt alive, you could actually die, as opposed to one shotting everything with Heirlooms today. Fucking amazing attunement quests. You felt so good completing them, and you had to travel the world. It meant something ... Not a hassle at all. How long did it really take? Exactly.
@michaelmichaelagnew8503
@michaelmichaelagnew8503 5 лет назад
Think how good this game would have progressed if activision didnt buy them out.
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 Месяц назад
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 I put Booby Kotick on the same list as Emperor Palpatine and Vladimir Putin ....
@ShilongSun
@ShilongSun 6 лет назад
Fun fact that you may not know: sheeped targets will SINK DOWN to the very bottom ground under the water. Yeah I drowned quite a lot in Tarnaris in this way after lured them to the sea shore. Take a lot longer on the forsakens (3 times longer breath under water) and don't work on droods (of course).
@kylecordier8323
@kylecordier8323 6 лет назад
Nostalgia!! Incredible video.
@kabukijo3148
@kabukijo3148 6 лет назад
still i think the 1 shot pvp in Vanilla is still more exiting then that dmg spungy pillow fight pvp in Legion boring AF
@ShadowIord
@ShadowIord 6 лет назад
I think nobody ever asked for patch 1.1, people asked for vanilla, which means, before burning crusade. Not before all patches to fix vanilla....
@jonnnney
@jonnnney 5 лет назад
I needs to be a mix of all the fixes through 1.12 with the difficult curve and content of 1.1 -1.3
@Legion852
@Legion852 5 лет назад
@@jonnnney They can always just start at .1.1 and patch thru again. I want them to start at around 1.12 but i dont mind 1.1 if they plan on patching all the way thru Shit i want to TBC again, But thats about as far as i want to go.
@bookcadenb4584
@bookcadenb4584 5 лет назад
It should be the final patch of Vanilla BEFORE the Pre-TBC nerf. It's still 100% Vanilla WoW, but with most of the Bugs and problems fixed.
@Legion852
@Legion852 5 лет назад
@@bookcadenb4584 Pretty sure i read somewhere they will be starting at 1.12.
@jonnnney
@jonnnney 5 лет назад
@@bookcadenb4584 Nah I'd prefer the old school difficulty of Stratlehome, Scholomance, and Blackrock Spire when they were harder than modern heroics/mystics and people did 10 man raids for loot runs.
@spiritdawound
@spiritdawound 6 лет назад
patch 1.1, Darkshores, East of Ruins of Mathystra, there was an entrance to Fort Timbermaw, a nightmare for some low level explorer. There was also a cavern inside of Thorn Hills, with entrance north west of Ratchet.
@TiaguinhoMu
@TiaguinhoMu 6 лет назад
The same way as Shaman was designed for horde and Paladin for alliance, Reincarnation was the horde version of the paladin Divine Intervention, the ressurection sickness was expected because it was meant to be a disengage ability, right after a wipe, a paladin with DI or a shaman using ank could start a chain ressurection instead of whole raid having to release afaik
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
TiaguinhoMu that kinda makes sense, good point
@BM24DK
@BM24DK 6 лет назад
Yes but back in patch 1.1 most people were still leveling and learning about the game. Reaching lvl 60 for first time took most people many months and some didn't start playing WoW until patch 1.2-1.3.
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
Fair point, I imagine only a small fraction ever having raided MC in patch 1.1
@BM24DK
@BM24DK 6 лет назад
I guess so.. WoW was released early 2005 in my country and I reached lvl 60 late 2005. But if Classic WoW is released in patch 1.1 people are gonna go crazy about these limitations(even myself :D) since most veteran gamers will get lvl 60 in 1-2 months
@izicial7469
@izicial7469 6 лет назад
Nah I think you underestimate how casual WoW Vanilla was compared to other MMOs of the time. I bet hardcore MMO players didn't take several months as much of WoW Vanilla was just mob grinding anyway. 1-2 sounds more reasonable but I bet there were many who did it faster.
@fu_ck1
@fu_ck1 6 лет назад
WoW vanilla's whole appeal and point was, that it WAS NOT hardcore. Ie. No permadeath nor losing items or experience when you die. You can explore the world without being punished, 5-10 min corpse run is bad? How about you lose months worth of progress on 1 death? The worst thing what can happen in wow is being corpse camped, and even then if you run back for the 2nd time and decide to ress anyway and die again then it's your own fault and deserve the walk of shame.
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 6 лет назад
We in Europe got in at 1.3. We couldn't even play 1.1, except for a few freaks that got specially imported copies and signed in on american servers.
@bokijacovic5689
@bokijacovic5689 6 лет назад
i think you can clearly tell that the game was unfinished on release
@izicial7469
@izicial7469 6 лет назад
It's still unfinished. If it was finished then they wouldn't be adding more content ;p
@killer2403
@killer2403 6 лет назад
That's the whole point of a MMORPG: constantly changing the game in order to maintain a longevity.
@sharuh1017
@sharuh1017 6 лет назад
No it wasn't unfinished? It was finished and then updated. Would your house be unfinished just because someone might renovate it at a later point?
@bokijacovic5689
@bokijacovic5689 6 лет назад
it was probably finished in the sense they had to ship the game, alot of things changed from beta as you should no, maybe if talent trees were present in alpha/beta you might have a point.
@brosephjames
@brosephjames 6 лет назад
Sharuh it was unfinished though. Molten Core was hastily put together, had to be patched a couple times before guilds could clear it. Some zones were half empty and obviously incomplete. Placeholder graphics on tons of items. It was also obvious that the content flow carefully crafted to take you from level 1-30 started to die off at the higher level zones and there was a lot more grinding and a lot less quests. But it's an MMO, at a certain point they have to release it. It was pretty polished at release all things considered.
@jingthethief
@jingthethief Год назад
i love these stories about back in the day. please keep it up.
@SirLasterOfDesaster
@SirLasterOfDesaster 4 года назад
I dont't get the problem with the 5 minute blessings. Just write a macro that creates a index variable set and every time you click the macro the counter gets incremented by 1 and then target the raidmemberX and cast the spell. Considering the 1.5 sec GCD it would take you (40 * 1.5sec) = 60sec to buff them all through by just spamming the macro. Or was ther no macro at this time in patch 1.1?
@SuperSkandale
@SuperSkandale 6 лет назад
Regarding Warlock death coil. I don't believe Warlocks even had Death Coil in 1.1. And i'm pretty sure it didn't cause the enemy to flee for 2.5 / 3 seconds or however long it is.
@Moridinist
@Moridinist 6 лет назад
Actually, warlocks had it from the start, you're right on the the second part though. It was on a 10-min cooldown too.
@M.SEK.P
@M.SEK.P 6 лет назад
Wow. I dont Comment often, but this video is too good. Thanks
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
Thanks man!
@M.SEK.P
@M.SEK.P 6 лет назад
Hamsterwheel Greetings from germany 😊 wish you 100k sub's
@burtmacklin6443
@burtmacklin6443 6 лет назад
First off lovely video, you covered a lot of what was wrong with 1.1. A couple things I think you missed and haven't seen people post. - There weren't enough quests to hit 60. - You had to complete Attunment quests to enter raids. - Druids were only viable as Resto because that is the only set in the game and Boomkins were called Oomkins as in Out of Mana because their skills cost so much that they would run out of mana in about 5 seconds and be useless for the duration of the fight. - If you were determined to be a bear tank in a raid there was a hodgepodge of gear mostly from Dire Maul North that would allow you to do so with a must being the Staff of Wardens that had armor on it, even with all the gear you would have to sacrifice stats for fire resist. At last convincing your guild bear tank was a good way to go because of their health pool, armor, and evasion 9 times out of 10 block was the reason you were turned down. - On top of all of this duel spec wasn't a thing till WotLK and swapping specs cost 100g so as a priest or druid farming gold for potions, food, and repairs was abysmal. - Priests at least had a quest for Benediction a must have staff that drastically increased their power ultimately making Resto druids into innervate bots. - Class quests; Warlocks for pets and 40 mount, Paladin for both mounts, Druids for forms, and others I cannot think of right now.
@aaronbrungardt6603
@aaronbrungardt6603 6 лет назад
I remember too that when earning reputation with the Gnomes, there wasn't enough quests. I can't remember how you had to overcome that. I think you had to do dungeons & raids or things that gave reputation to all factions. For Gnomes, it didn't even come close. It was enough to be Honorable before you ran out of quests. And to get your rep up with the Furbolgs in Felwood... very time consuming, for you had to in order to get to Winterspring. Largest bags were what... 12 slots I think?
@nickkwatussi7080
@nickkwatussi7080 5 лет назад
Aaron Brungardt gnomes get no love. 😧
@vaulty
@vaulty 6 лет назад
I know I shouldn't... but I want it
@FGazi-qf1hp
@FGazi-qf1hp 6 лет назад
vaulty Same... Seems appealing.
@newagemoon
@newagemoon 6 лет назад
YoU ThiNk YoU DO BuT YoU DoNT
@Dbass91
@Dbass91 6 лет назад
He think I don't, but I do
@sc18594
@sc18594 6 лет назад
Youre all wrong, You all think you do, but you don't.
@sc18594
@sc18594 6 лет назад
You
@brotalnia
@brotalnia 6 лет назад
I'd love to play the launch version of WoW. I want to explore it thoroughly and discover for myself how different everything was in the begining. It would be quite refreshing compared to what private servers have had to offer, which is a permanent 1.12 client with a database downgraded from 3.3.5 since nobody bothered to sniff stuff and preserve wdb data back in vanilla. And also it would be really fun to go through all the talent and spell changes.
@DanielStefanReichenbach
@DanielStefanReichenbach 6 лет назад
This is actually not correct, the MaNGOS team did a lot of sniffing and WDB archiving in vanilla WoW, and a lot of original data was preserved for MaNGOS Zero being based on original WDB files from these days. It just so happens that private servers often prefer to downgrade WotLK databases for whatever reasons.
@brotalnia
@brotalnia 6 лет назад
I know mangos existed in vanilla and thus there are old true vanilla dbs, but the ones currently used by cmangos and mangoszero and thus every private server are clearly downgraded from a later expansion, because they have stuff that was never in vanilla. For example the npc_text table contains texts used by npcs added in tbc, some quest texts that changed in tbc are in their tbc state, creatures have wrong flags like a npc that was later made a quest giver in tbc has the quest giver npc flag in the vanilla db, creatures that had gossip added in tbc have it in vanilla, etc. When you start going through it all you realized that in reality the vanilla experience on private servers is a very distorted one.
@DanielStefanReichenbach
@DanielStefanReichenbach 6 лет назад
CMaNGOS is indeed downgraded, MaNGOS Zero Database though is not. I know because I sniffed a lot and maintained Zero Database for years using that data, e.g. old data from wowguru.com (if you remember that)
@brotalnia
@brotalnia 6 лет назад
I have personally reported stuff that was changed in TBC, so it must be downgraded. Here is an example of a quest having description text from TBC in the vanilla db www.getmangos.eu/bug-tracker/mangos-zero/0-archived-reports/nazgrel-3230-r1400/
@DanielStefanReichenbach
@DanielStefanReichenbach 6 лет назад
Sometimes happens when patches are backported. I left the project (after founding MaNGOS in 2005) in 2015 and at that time the database definitely was "pure classic". Haven't checked much what happened afterwards.
@325Naboo
@325Naboo 5 лет назад
All the buffs needed reagents! :) I remember my priest carrying around one full bag of candles! and i kind of miss that! and Hunter ammo lol
@Apemopo
@Apemopo 5 лет назад
11:39 I'm keeping my eye on you, Mana Spring Totem IV!
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 5 лет назад
Haha good catch!
@ExecutusGaming
@ExecutusGaming 6 лет назад
f a n t a s t i c video my man!
@XxYayakoshiixX
@XxYayakoshiixX 6 лет назад
Well for me its a kinda tough one because after all a lot of players really want to relive the initial state of the game and while I do think that patch 1.12.1 is a ton better than the previous patches, not going the progressive route would mean that you wouldn't really play classic as it was, just the latest patch of it. Just as an example, the debuff from ZG that killed cities for days won't exist or you will never really have any kind of tarren mill vs southshore in a big scale because there are battlegrounds from the get go. Just a lot of things people were told were crazy good or bad will never be experienced again like this and while I do understand why people chose the 1.12.1 patch, it just isn't classic and a lot of things that people either remember or were told will never be actually in the classic game.
@emetsalt2678
@emetsalt2678 6 лет назад
you realize that blizzard won't implement the ZG buff bug right?
@Altermerea
@Altermerea 6 лет назад
And even if they would, it won't be the same because everyone is now aware of it
@robsanford5804
@robsanford5804 6 лет назад
"Classic" doesn't mean "initial release". FOr most players, "Classic" refers to the game before the first expansion. There are 2 years worth of gameplay in those first 2 years, and a ton of changes. As long as it takes place before The Burning Crusade, it's considered "Classic".
@SarajevoShotz
@SarajevoShotz 6 лет назад
The Elysium private server is patch 1.12.1 but releases content progressively, it's a nice solution
@XxYayakoshiixX
@XxYayakoshiixX 6 лет назад
thats definitely some valuable insight there, I rarely ever see anyone mention that starting on 1.12.1 has major impact on the classes and that "obviously" molten core was created while having different talents etc. in mind than later on, therefore a molten core raid when it first came out on a 1.12.1 server can not possibly compared to a "retail vanilla" molten core raid which goes for all raids, but I honestly never see this points mentioned at all, people mostly just compare the retail with the popular 1.12.1 version like its the same. of course more people played towards the end of vanilla, but that doesn't change the fact that not all changes made within vanilla were good. whats annoying me the most about it is that among streamers its publicly shared that on the private servers every raid first is insanely fast compared to retail vanilla, even though - as you mentioned - its a completely different case. of course there is much more knowledge, but so whats the point of making it even more trivial then? Even though I do know there were some stupid things early on, I would still make that trade off in order to experience the more realistic patch cycle of vanilla.
@Haxzaw
@Haxzaw 6 лет назад
... that was funny watching you try to show the casting animation for vanilla arcane explosion. :)
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
Hehe yeah, I had no build or core available with the old Arcane Explosio when I was making this video, so I had to improvise and actually cast Teleport: Orgimmar, cancel it and then cast Arcane Explosion superfast to simulate an arcane explosion with a cast time :)
@newagesoup
@newagesoup 5 лет назад
a fun listen, thanks!
@Patrick-xj1qc
@Patrick-xj1qc 6 лет назад
if classic launches at 1.1 there will be addons, people will make them
@tevian9404
@tevian9404 6 лет назад
I am not going to use them
@Patrick-xj1qc
@Patrick-xj1qc 6 лет назад
Tevian just saying that because its one of the negative arguements he makes about 1.1. If you are not an addon person, thats fine, you do you
@gunchannel3989
@gunchannel3989 6 лет назад
Patrick Gut its not gonna launch at 1.1
@sharuh1017
@sharuh1017 6 лет назад
Blizzard should just block them
@Lily_Valentine
@Lily_Valentine 6 лет назад
It's possible for Blizzard to not make it an option to add addons.
@Terminus_4
@Terminus_4 6 лет назад
I want patch progression, starting with 1.1 Would be awesome.
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 лет назад
Blizz announced they are starting on 1.12 a couple months ago.
@Kratatch
@Kratatch 5 лет назад
I remember taming a Giraffe in the Barrens on my Hunter when i started playing WoW in 2005. Priests could also talk to the opposite faction by mindcontroling a person then use /me and then what they wanted to say.
@abystus
@abystus 6 лет назад
What UI Addon are you using for all the black windows and what not?
@MrEpic-qe2tt
@MrEpic-qe2tt 5 лет назад
>There were no BGs >Pets didn't rezzed in BGs >what
@Alexandros.Mograine
@Alexandros.Mograine 4 года назад
Well the ability worked same way in bgs
@furydeath
@furydeath 6 лет назад
i remember when arcane explosion had a 1.5 cast time good times xD
@borgKick
@borgKick 6 лет назад
i still remember 2 different fights north of BRD with dif mages, one without the talents to make it instant n one with. insta was OP as it added so much free dps while other stuff was down
@RevCode
@RevCode 6 лет назад
About those intellect boots for rouges: I am not completely sure about 1.1, but somewhere between 1.5 and 1.12 I am relatively sure, if my memory serves me well, that intellect and willpower actually had an effect on melee classes awell: Willpower increasing the regeneration rate of your health and intellect increasing the chance of getting a +1 on your weapon skills. (Or something like that). So in that case it wouldn't be completely useless, if you had to reroll for another weapon. (I could be wrong here though, but I am pretty sure that they had some effect)
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb 6 лет назад
One cause of the weird itemization was that in beta spirit regened some health during combat, so it was seriously useful for every class.
@Kukakkau
@Kukakkau 6 лет назад
You're correct for both - spirit helped hp regen both in and out of of combat and intellect raised weapon skills faster. You'd always know when a warrior had to re-roll to a new weapon type when they go into a mid level dungeon in robes and a wizard hat
@pyrel
@pyrel 6 лет назад
How can hunter pets not revive in battlegrounds if there are no battlegrounds?
@thenerdbeast7375
@thenerdbeast7375 6 лет назад
I imagine Blizzard is going to implement the highest patch they can, patch 1.12.2, on their classic servers in order to provide the most content and best quality of life they can for the players playing on those servers. It is also possible that they will make a new patch, like a vanilla patch 1.13, in order to fix some of the bugs from vanilla.
@grog159
@grog159 6 лет назад
Yea I want 1.1 No I'm not a rogue...
@SuperSkandale
@SuperSkandale 6 лет назад
You think you do, but you don't :)
@Chopstorm.
@Chopstorm. 6 лет назад
Max Holroyd You a warrior?
@danrebeiz4598
@danrebeiz4598 6 лет назад
Was it in 1.1 where you had to purchase ammo (including throwing weapons) and you had to level weapon skills before they did any real damage? Or were those things implemented in later patches?
@KiyokaMakibi
@KiyokaMakibi 6 лет назад
I enjoyed this video. Good job!
@GermanBoy00
@GermanBoy00 6 лет назад
They kept shaping that diamond untill TBC where it became perfect, but then they didn't stop working on it and it became less good with every patch, untill they broke it completely with the release of Cataclysm.
@Nyhmii
@Nyhmii 6 лет назад
19:12 LoL stacks sup to 15001 Times xD
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 6 лет назад
Yeah the databases for wow vanilla are a little wonky sometimes :)
@Dfeneck
@Dfeneck 5 лет назад
Dude, that jingle at the end!
@heatrayzvideo3007
@heatrayzvideo3007 9 месяцев назад
I remember the first day of battlegrounds... I'm so old. I used to gank in silverpine before then
@shoobror8291
@shoobror8291 6 лет назад
fuck this patch hahahaha, 1.12 please
@kooken58
@kooken58 6 лет назад
No quest Addons. OH Whoa is me... I have to actually read and play the game and not stare an arrow or circle on the map.
@bleughbloop8569
@bleughbloop8569 6 лет назад
some of them werent exactly obvious though...if you were expecting a super low drop item to drop from a murloc seer then an hour later that murloc sage you accidentally pulled dropped it you did start to lose hair...
@NicDoesDumbThings
@NicDoesDumbThings 5 лет назад
nigga did u really just say "whoa is me"
@justinokraski3796
@justinokraski3796 5 лет назад
*woe*
@systander
@systander 5 лет назад
yeah i'm sure you never used thottbot
@brianp5761
@brianp5761 5 лет назад
Many of the players now are straight up add on reliant, they will not like 1.1 imo.
@hatgamer3463
@hatgamer3463 6 лет назад
Excellent video that sure brought some memories of the real vanilla days and reminded me of things I had forgotten. But I wish to correct you on a few things. Paladins didn't get their class epic mount until patch 1.4.0, the same patch Warlocks got theirs. Seal of Command could kill people in duels. Reckoning had no stacking limit (this is how a Paladin could solo Doomlord Kazzak). Speaking of which, Reckoning gives you a extra attack everytime you are crited, in the early days Seal of Command could proc of off every extra swing, but in 1.12 it could only proc of your initial white swing. Also the only Auction Houses were in Orgrimmar for Horde and Ironforge for Alliance, and if my memory doesnt fail me completely, the only neutral Auction House were in Ratchet, but yes, when they did add Auction Houses to the other cities they where initially not linked.
@topdecktunes
@topdecktunes 5 лет назад
What's the name of the video you quoted with the rogues? "As easy as pressing two buttons"
@johnhio1843
@johnhio1843 6 лет назад
Battlegrounds killed world PvP. People use to group up and raid the capitals, travel to XR or even Darkshore just to cause a stir, no rewards given and none needed... reward was fun. The fact that these things where completely player driven also cast it in a different light, made it unique. Blizzard could've made a quest and added rewards, but that would've killed the magic. The second BGs where introduced it just became a gear grind. Having content is great, but sometimes the lack of can spark something much more interesting. These games are so bloated with content which you'll vaguely remember a day after. 14 years on, I still recall my level 3 gnome facing down the horde army as they brought the roof down in Ironforge.
@johnhio1843
@johnhio1843 6 лет назад
You don't get it. It wasn't about winning or losing, it was about having fun... You didn't need to contribute in order to take part, that was quite besides the point. People had fun attacking while others had fun defending - that was the goal and the only reward.
@Kukakkau
@Kukakkau 6 лет назад
I always remember when a lvl 60 showed up in the second Tauren village in Mulgore on my first character - twenty to thirty lvl 5 odd taurens just staring like... you think we could take him? We eventually whittled him down over like 15mins ... but then he started actually using spells. Was a good laugh
@felixmustar7386
@felixmustar7386 6 лет назад
nah it were the flying mounts, still hate that shit. Didnt play in like 8 yrs, but that was the death of fun in WOW.
@justinokraski3796
@justinokraski3796 5 лет назад
It was a much more ambitious thing to raid capitals back before TBC because everyone would hang out at the capitals while waiting to set up a raid/AH/whatever
@theremain9299
@theremain9299 5 лет назад
If they bring back Classic-Servers, they have to start at 1.1 and progress slowly to 1.12. I'd like to see some of the kids today struggle the way we did. :D
@Saurus990
@Saurus990 5 лет назад
Classic is now confirmed and it's coming back at 1.12. They will release raids/bgs periodically though.
@mercenaryforhire3453
@mercenaryforhire3453 6 лет назад
weren't they a red dragon located in grim batol to kill for attunement quest to onyxia's lair? or do I mess it up with another quest?
@QuicKnDead911
@QuicKnDead911 6 лет назад
Thottbot was around during beta, famous factoid was that Thottbot used a trojan to gather beta data unkown to the user and in 1.1 you could drink a heal potion and bandage while moving.
@XxNocturnalKnightxX
@XxNocturnalKnightxX 6 лет назад
Paladins did not get their epic mount steed from the get go, you had to do quests for the lvl 40 one and even more harder/expensive quests for the lvl 60 mount. It took me 9 months to get the lvl 60 mount from farming 12 hours a day. And if you weren't a blacksmith the expense of the bars needed for that mount were through the roof expensive, my server costs it at a total of 2900g which was insane back then since, it took me all the way up to lvl 53 to get to 1 gold. While buying the ranks for spells.
@billymays9296
@billymays9296 6 лет назад
Yes, but you had access to start it from the get go, which was the point. Whereas Warlocks didn't since their quest didn't even exist. This never implied that you magically got it for leveling up to 60 (like in retail).
@mythni1826
@mythni1826 6 лет назад
I think you are over exaggerating a lot
@michaelschmidlkofer3979
@michaelschmidlkofer3979 6 лет назад
Since the paladin epic mount chain requires going into Dire Maul, how exactly is it that the epic mount was available in 1.1? In fact, the quest chain was added in patch 1.4 wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.4.0
@XxNocturnalKnightxX
@XxNocturnalKnightxX 6 лет назад
Well if you see that i said it took me over 9 months to get the mount, that means in that amount of time several patches must have happened. Of course it might not have been in one of the original patches of release, since I was on a mostly horde server and playing as alliance it took me about 1 year to even get to 60 anyway, and didn't get to start the quest till i hit 60, then took me about 9 months after that to gather resources to pay for super rare gems that were used to create the bars needed to armor the mount, and then having to solo that one boss in scholomance without any reference on where to even find it, or how to kill it, so figuring out everything about getting the mount was all by ear of asking guildmates or trade chat. There was no wiki back then for things like this, and I never had any addons until Wrath of the Lich King expansion. I was not over exaggerating anything, I was in highschool when the game was released, I was only in school for 6.5 hours of the day, took me about 15 minutes there and back, so I could spend about 10-12 hours or playing WoW. WoW was the only game that was on my mind to play back then, on my windows xp computer. And on weekends I could spend about 12-17 hours on WoW. Since every person was pretty much the biggest noob in that game, that was playing on the wrong side of a pvp server, it took some real time to get to places, run back to your body when dead, hoping you won't get ganked, spend money on repairs that add up when you die for hours in the same spot. If you played in Vanilla WoW and never played an MMORPG before you would know that it was the hardest thing to figure out how to play. I died so much more from murlocs than other players. So ya I wasn't even level 60 yet by the time patch 1.4.0 came out, so I wasn't apart of the level 60 crew of players within the first couple months like those people who played on normal servers, easing their way through horde infested areas, not getting killed by the biggest assholes who killed the other faction just for fun for hours of their time. Who have played MMORPGs before like Everquest. To put in perspective I wasn't 60 until patch 1.8.3 according the the wiki, which means several raids were released by then. But i was lucky enough to be one of those 60s to see the openning of AQ.
@mythni1826
@mythni1826 6 лет назад
40 runecloth, 6 arcanite bars 10 arthas tears, 1 azerothian diamond 1 pristine black diamond cost you 2550g?
@taavidude
@taavidude 6 лет назад
So basically 1.1 was pretty damn awful.
@mmmboj4714
@mmmboj4714 6 лет назад
in a good way
@craserx6267
@craserx6267 6 лет назад
in a very bad way
@chicochoo7488
@chicochoo7488 6 лет назад
It wasn't awful, the focus was just elsewhere and that was on exploring the world... Later when the focus shifted onto things like raids, the gear got updated and more content introduced that would let you get more gear, aka vanilla's version of catchup mechanics. Maraudon & Dire Maul, extra loot from bosses, less people required to clear content so you can clear them more often, and then later on 20-mans like AQ20 and ZG provided pretty powerful loot considering their difficulty. Which..... by todays standards could be pretty awful and boring, so maybe you're right! :D
@fourseasonentertainment2633
@fourseasonentertainment2633 6 лет назад
it was the best time now all the casual kiddys get in and whiny kids
@taavidude
@taavidude 6 лет назад
Funny, because only 14 year old kids complain about "kiddys" and "kids".
@mtjeeves1234
@mtjeeves1234 6 лет назад
I just thought it worth mentioning. In 1.1 I don't remember there being auction houses in all the major cities. I thought that came much later. I'm pretty sure it was just the goblin AH, the org AH, and the IF AH. I don't think we got more until BC or right before BC. It's been a long time though. The biggest thing to point out that most people miss. Is during that time. Voicechat was still in its infancy. You could have 6 people in vent without paying for premium vent which only held 12 people on a server. TeamSpeak came out, but wasn't cheap in comparison and still you could only have 20 people on the "premium" server. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but lots of the dungeons were 10+ in a 6 man vent! The raids were 40 man lol. So guilds were different then. We had class leaders. They had their own chat channels to speak to the members of their class during raids, as leader you had to have a series of macros for actions to direct your class to take during fights without stopping to type things out. There wasn't DBM Until molten core was on farm status pretty much. We got Omen just as we were all starting to get geared well in MC and get the fights down. There was no dps meter for quite a long time. Omen only measured threat for a while. Then like the creator said. There were no real resources. Most of the information on sites was almost epic worthy troll stuff lol. Good video, I enjoyed the flashback.
@MadamePianissima
@MadamePianissima 6 лет назад
This must be part of that hardcore vanilla gameplay I hear so much about.
@nathannate7264
@nathannate7264 6 лет назад
Ya, you wanna know why it didn't matter that there was no PvP for 7 months after 1.1, because people were busy leveling still because it took so long, that plus the fact it took forever to do raids, so it didn't really matter much that there was no PvP for 7 months.
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 лет назад
Depends. Not everyone took months to level. My friend and I (separately due to work hours differing) hit 60 in a little over a month after release. Sadly we were forced to basically flick our dicks waiting for the game to be fixed (aggro/threat was so bad that running high end 5 mans were hellish for a while).
@Mazxlol
@Mazxlol 6 лет назад
i wish i played in patch 1.1 - looks super fun - 10man dungeons? hell yeah! I loved 10 man UBRS
@mikeswitzer985
@mikeswitzer985 6 лет назад
what is fun about having more players to potentially take your loot? those dungeons were a pain in the ass to try and get pre-raid bis before the players needed to complete it was lowered.
@Mazxlol
@Mazxlol 6 лет назад
because the game isnt about getting loot... its about having fun. loot is just an extra bonus. well a mix of both i would say. of course getting loot was exciting
@mikeswitzer985
@mikeswitzer985 6 лет назад
literally the only point of vanilla end game is getting loot. You are constantly trying to upgrade. Having to roll against more people makes it tedious not fun.
@mikeswitzer985
@mikeswitzer985 6 лет назад
I agree that up until you get to max level it was all about the adventure. But you had two choices at 60, pvp (which for a long time gave no gear), or pve which was the only way to meaningfully upgrade your character. Sure you could do some more quests at 60 that you could have missed while leveling. But in reality max level was just a grind fest, running the same dungeon sometimes 10 times just to get one item. I love that about vanilla, nothing feels better than getting an item upgrade, but having to roll against maybe 3-4 other people in a 10 man dungeon is not fun.
@Mazxlol
@Mazxlol 6 лет назад
Mike Switzer maybe its just me but i found it interesting to run the same dungeons over and over again and eventually winning the item. It felt great to finally win it. What is the point of playing if you know you will get it 100%? Run the dungeon once and NEVER return?
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 6 лет назад
Hamsterwheel where did you find that picture with the old tier 1 appearances? I'm looking all over he internet and I can't find it.
@digitaIgorilla
@digitaIgorilla 5 лет назад
No Battlegrounds, so we went to Tarren Mill/Southshore and always complained the other faction had more players. Loved every second of those fights.
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