WREN KITCHEN - All finished thank goodness PART 4 

We recently had our Wren kitchen fitted by one of their independent installers. Can't fault the workmanship at all an amazing job they job and we found Wren an amazing company. Really enjoyed your videos on the kitchen install.

Such a positive attitude by all you guys. It's a real art this kitchen-fitting. Doing it properly like you do anyway

Love the "price of hardboard" response to hearing that the laser gizmo costs £15k! Great result at the end despite all the Wren pitfalls. Well done, as always.

Great job under very difficult circumstances. Nothing but admiration for how you’ve persevered. Best wishes Mike 👍🏻

I've done loads of kitchens, the best tip I can give is, those small wall cabinets, you get a small hanging bracket, I scrap those and use a full length bracket, which you can cut down, or I like to notch the wall units, and run a full length across the wall, 1. You can get over cables, 2. More fixings in. 3.you can get it level much easier.

watched all four - good work sir.

Love the quality of workmanship, pride & detail that you put into your installation! You’ve certainly convinced me that Wren Kitchens is defo NOT the place to buy a kitchen from - just couldn’t believe the issues you identified - 👌

Great video, bud. I share the same views on Wren kitchens, absolutely hate fitting them, and probably won't fit anymore. Regards to the handle/knob jig, I've got one, had it many years. I simply set jig up with correct set back etc and I mark the door with a pencil and drill hole with a bradpoint bit. Never had an issue with it. Keep it up with these great videos 👍

Great vid. Don’t like wren either. The fillers I normally do the other way so not made of two bits so you don’t get the line. I wud have worked out from centre of the hood unit so equal both sides with fillers. Done a cracking job tho

That's a shocking design 😮 In addition to the wall unit disaster with the fillers, the 400/800 corner base unit has so much dead space, a 500 door on a 1000 corner and a 500 to the right of the drawers would have been much better. Maybe you should have put those wall fillers on the base run either side of the drawers to keep the alignment above, would have saved a lot of faffing with scribing fillers either side! Looks like there was plenty of tolerance to make that corner post smaller to fit them in. I always make sure to check the final plan with the customer before they order to avoid silly issues like this. Great videos, very insightful 👍

Just so you are in the know, wren kitchens is a company that is owned by the Original owner if mfi and has all the hallmarks and issues of old , I am a kitchen fitter who worked for nobia which is a big group who owns magnet aswell as others , in my opinion for what it's worth the only kitchen company worth it is Howdens but they still have issues , commodore kitchens in London are good too , thanks for your videos really enjoy your content .

Wren kitchens sounds like m f i kitchens with all problems ...Nice job with kitchen looking good 👍

Great video and top quality work!

The cardboard vs laser cost was a scream 😂 Fantastic workmanship again……

A tip for getting stickers off. Spray with furniture polish and let it soak in. They will peel off easily.

It's when you say to a customer that you won't fit a certain brand of kitchen and they look at you like you're an idiot because Mable 3 doors down has a "so-and-so" kitchen. Isn't business fun?!? 😂 Looks great mate. Glad I found your channel!! 😊

I have one of those handle jigs and they are brilliant for doing handles

Stunning job mate, skills overcame a poor quality unit. Just goes to show, a good installer can make a not so good kitchen, look good. Top stuff Richy

Toilet / WC has a basin, kitchens have a sink. I learnt that from working with plumbers on a lot of refurb jobs. Plumbers get very sniffy if you refer to bathrooms or WC having a 'sink'.

I believe those handle screws just have like snap off points. I use two sets of pliers holding the screw close to the desired “snapping point” then the other to bend and snap off the excess thread 👍🏻

Excellent job, are you self taught in the different trades? What is your first trade? Just subscribed, will recommend your channel to friends.

As someone who has fitted many kitchens from a variety of suppliers, I can confirm that how much you pay has no bearing on the customer service or quality. Probably the worst example was a B+Q kitchen, which due to missing pieces and damaged doors and the replacements being equally as bad. Was actually finished six months after beginning the installation.

The best thing about a wren kitchen is when the blag kitchen fitters do one

I think you’ve done a great job fitting the kitchen, the design is not balanced an too busy. You would think they could make the units to individual dimensions, unlike off the shelf stock cabinets and cupboards, given Wrens price tag. I’ve used a local guy who makes cabinets to order and orders doors to suit (and door types and finish don’t depict the price, as there was not a great deal between shaker and hi gloss acrylic). Am soaking all this in still Rich.

The few videos I have seen has been with Wren on older homes. Has anyone installed the kitchen cabinets in a home built from 1980 to 2005?

Caramel wheels are good for removing sticky marks from surfaces. Make sure you set your drill to a low setting and, test on a piece of off cut first if possible, if not just take it easy 👍🏻

Great videos and great workmanship.👍 You mentioned that Wren kitchens charge a premium price for their product but they come delivered out of square etc. I am about to order a new kitchen and was considering Wren, however, this makes me question the quality. Who would you recommend as a similar priced product with better quality?

What's a good kitchen unit supplier for the DIY'er?

What is the next project coming up on the channel Rich. Did you ever get the job for the property you did the home office at the top of the garden?

What do you do if you have to scribe the bottom of an end panel due to an uneven floor? Concerned about moisture now you’ve said it 😂

For anyone thinking of buying a kitchen, watch Nick Morris, he's just done a great video on 5 different kitchens, DIY Kitchens are the best!

I was lucky with my wren kitchen. All the measurements were right and the fitter found it all straight forward and good quality ( first Wren he’d done). A broken hinge was replaced via the app and arrived next day in the post.

I know it won’t be seen but wish all the walls had been finished with white paint

There are none of these problems with DIY Kitchens of Pontefract who are much cheaper than Wrens and the quality is infinitely superior .

Good job. When’s the team gonna get back together. Your best content is when yous are all on a big job

hi Mike love the videos on the kitchen job wern are we seeing the window being fitted to the up stairs allway and how much work have you go to do

Hi…Watched all four parts of your Wren install which was superb and very informative. Thank you. I am in the middle of installing my Wren Infinity Plus kitchen…not without measuring issues!😉 May I ask…where the decor panels meet the pelmet on the wall units, above the three draws, they appear to protrude about 5mm past the bottom edge of the pelmet, rather than be flush. Is this intentional and how you prefer to do it. 😊Thanks

Fairplay mate, another great episode showing how every day "construction" work can be very awkward. Cupboard hinges half fitted, screws not fully tightened, designers/measurers unable to use a tape measure and every little "discrepency" needs to be "over come" by the installer! Which in most cases....isn't noticed or known about by the customer, isn't paid for by the manufacturerer/supplier or client because most of the time you just want to crack on and get the work done and finished to the best of your ability, it can really get on your tits at times! I genuinely could count on one hand the number of jobs fiitting Wickes kitchens for 5 years that ran without some type of screw up on their part....every job there was something damaged or the wrong size or the plan couldn't physically work or the wrong colour or wrong type of unit or appliance. They would even send you the exact amount of, say plinth, once you had cut it all to the correct lengths etc you"d be 8mm too short because they were that tight the wouldn't allow for the thickness of your chopsaw blade. We would have to buy a 3 or 4m length to finish to job. Great job my friend, you done your lot proud and I look forward to the next, cheers bro 🙏

Overall the new kitchen looks pretty good now Rich. Been a struggle and one hell of a learning curve for ya, I bet !!!! You left out the fridge/freezer fitting and removing the wall unit to install the extractor ( which is too low down to the hob imo) I bet there was some cursing there !!! Although you didn't quite install it to showroom/wren standards, you done good overall. Well done !!! ( also, there are really descriptive installation videos online showing how Wren recommend you install their units )

That toilet doesn’t look building regs compliant - you need a certain amount of space to the front and sides of a toilet, from the video looks like the hand basin unit is occupying some of that space.

The cupboard in the alcove. The handles won't bash into the fridge cupboard?

I’m thinking about a new kitchen, I was considering Wren, but I’m put off by your experience! What kitchen brands do you recommend please?

Leicht. Expensive but quality is exceptional.

There's a company called Crafters Companion they do a spray called Stick Away to remove the label 👍

Looks Good. How did you get on with Wren Customer Services? From my experience they are a nightmare, because they will only talk to their customer ( which is your customer) and your customer in general won't have clue how to describe what is missing or wrong. It's hysterical when they ask your 80 year old customer what plan number she is refering to and the poor lady hasn't got a clue. They wouldn't even speak to me while we were on speaker. The customer service agent would ask which items were missing or wrong. I had to tell the customer and she then repeated it to the agent, before he would accept the instruction!. She was asked to take a picture of a damaged door and email it to them. As it was her daughter who organised everything, the customer explained that she didn't use email. I asked if I could send it and the customer had to give her permission for my email address to be added to her account before they would accept the email from me.. And that is all AFTER an hour wait on the phone. You gotta love Retail Kitchen Suppliers. Loving the video's though.

Hair dryer to warm glue and peel off stickers.

Hope it was all sorted in the end Let's find out 👍

What Huepar laser level do you use?

I've just spent 10 grand on a kitch fron wren I haven't checked it yet but are you saying wren's kitchens are not square?

👍 how many man days to do that kitchen?

what about the floor covering ,did you allow for that and you need to put the floor in before the toilet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who pays exactly!!! Quite. I don’t want to be sued but I had one hell of an experience by them and I wouldn’t recommend them to my family one bit. Wrong measurements, units wrong, doors damaged, work tops buckled and scratched.

Hat's off to u rich, messing about with a really badly designed kitchen,filler panels all over, ceiling to low?no it wasn't! Top video ,do me a favour, level is horizontal n vertical is plumb , keep it up

Who's kitchens do you prefer

Poor QC from Wren there. I'm in the process of doing up my own kitchen, so far DIY Kitchens is likely to be my final choice.

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That toilet at the end looks way too close to the sink.

Fitted a wren the other week was a mess horrible to fit they had miss measured and all sorts and can’t speak to anyone on the phone from the local branch that supplied it puts u through to a national call centre who have no idea not like Howdens you can call or they’ll come out have a look 🤦🏻‍♂️

New to the channel and love the content, I have only watched this extension. Series and was wondering if you have an update on the moved man hole drain?

The full length end panels should be notched at the bottom to fit behind the kick boards. It makes for a much cleaner look!

I fitted one Wren kitchen years ago and said never again! I've fitted many kitchens over 11 years and definitely one of the worst, considering the price.

Looks like you're not a fan of wren kitchens ive Heard there QC is not the best

Wren pay their staff very, very low wages - more than 10k a year less than the usual trade average, this includes their "designers" and "fitters" who simply must be struggling/no good? to even consider a £21k a year job. The management who cannot put up a shelf straight get big bucks. You have witnessed the end product for yourself. DON'T BOTHER.

All the pain and stress and hard work will be for nothing. Within 6 months the finishes will begin to peel and break off. Wren will blame the fitter. Buy cheap, pay twice.

Wren kitchens are truly shite...very expensive shite. Planners put a cupboard in front of a window. The first day of fitting and fitter said its impossible to fit without massive mods. After the fitting the laminate peeled off the cupboards and the work surface started bubbling. The quality was awful!!

I’ve fitted a few wren kitchens they’re not as good as howdens and having the units with doors on etc is not a good thing

hope the homeowner doesn’t see this, they’ll feel well miserable about you down talking their expensive new kitchen.

Wren kitchens are over priced 100% for what they deliver. I stopped installing them. For the money DIY Kitchens are about the same quality and significantly cheaper. Anyway, people will continue to buy them…. If someone engages me to install a Wren I make it clear that I will charge for any additional time required to fix a Wren issue etc…. But what do you do when you’re trying to be a fair person and some young family has been left with problems…

Only dealt with Wren once, disgusting customer service.

Wren kitchens are proper crap

Worst kitchen I have ever fitted, £30000 and it was shit , sent out the handles and thee screws were to short !! Never again will I fit a wren kitchen, shit design and it doesn’t fit the room

God you dont half waffle on

No matter how long I’ve done kitchens I’ll always pick up something new. Thanks. Have you fit HOWDENS.? My last experience wasn’t good. Open gaps off square cabinets and backs falling off. Rickety structure. I did complain to them and was told I was the “only one” with these problems. 😮😮😮😮😮 although they did give some vouchers but nothing that would compensate for my time lost I haven’t gone back since. Mass production and fling them out to the outlets.