This is part one of the Wretched TV interview with John MacArthur. This interview was held last week at the Truth Matters Conference at Grace Community Church in Los Angeles CA. This is part one of two.
I am a woman from south africa, left my church because i was so blind sided by things that i never realized our preacher a woman was not supposed to be on the pulpit, after pray about it God gave me your scripture of “why woman cannot preach” i was so happy that i am not the only one who knew that was wrong. Thank you so much for that, let the world judge you all they want, God is the only one that matters. Be blessed and keep on telling the truth.
After I came out of Pentecostalism, John Mac was one of the first sermons I heard online. It was the pure Gospel, but it was like nothing I had heard before. It was so refreshing to get back to the Bible, to hear someone exegete it correctly and for Jesus to come alive. Thank you Jesus for John Mac and thank you John Mac for just preaching Christ and nothing else.
Rodrigo Licera :Matthew 7. He false teaches it exactly opposite of it’s meaning. Lordship Salvation/Calvinism is leaven, it is “another gospel. Free Grace Theology is the gospel.
I am a brazilian christian. I can't thank God enough for the ministry of John MacArthur. His sermons are totaly biblical. His respect for Scripture acuracy is amazing. I listen to his sermons every day, since 2014 (about 500 sermons antil now...). They are pure spiritual food.
Charlene Gareau He adds works to the gospel. There are exactly zero works involved in getting saved. Anyone who simply believes in their heart that Jesus Christ paid their sin debt in full on the cross will be saved. John MacArthur and MANY like him add to that requirement, which makes it another gospel.
I'm a former Catholic and a fairly new christian. I am so thankful to John MacArthur because without his wisdom, I might have been led astray by these "easy conversion pastors"!
David Ortiz. That's the point. The church is being with Jesus and in congregation with fellow BELIEVERS. Not "doers". For a church to be a church of Christ it must have true believers in Jesus Christ and people that believe his gospel as it is written. This is so that you can be saved and receive then be baptized with the Holy Spirit. So that we can begin our walk with God as God intended, NOT with man. That is something you don't necessarily get with Catholicism. You can, but you may not.
Don’t listen to catholics I was one obey God and his word, I pray that will guide you to the truth, is not easy when you tell people you’re leaving the church they will hate you, I decided to obey God and it was the best decision ever ,he came to me while I was a catholic he started to draw me to jesus, trust in him don’t look back
@David Ortiz Your last stop in your unbiblical purgatory will not save you. Infused ,works gospel is demonic doctrine. Why cant you see David? Heavenly Father please draw David to yourself. In Christ I pay. Amen.
“I never dreamed that I will spend most of my life trying to get ‘Christians’ to understand the gospel!” - Pastor John MacArthur AMEN!!! Absolutely... The hardest ones to preach to or share with are LOST and BLIND professing “Christians”... May GOD convict their hearts so powerfully and mightily!!!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
IF U r serious about God and u have a desire to know Him and grow closer to Him. Listen to John MacArthurs sermons and read his books. John loves the WORD of God and he is a great teacher of the WORD. God has definitely blessed him. He's one of the best.
@Guy Fawkes-Day Everyone is entitled to their opinions but there is only one truth and it is written. What is written can only be understood by Spirit and Truth. You must first be born again in Christ! Repent. The kingdom of heaven is near.
I thank God for John MacArthur's strength in the face of pressures we can't imagine and he has had it for a lifetime! So many ministers fall over one stumbling block or another but the Lord has preserved John MacArthur's integrity to be an encouragement and inspiration to the rest of us. He has helped me so much. If only I had heard him many years ago (and been willing to listen).
My friend and Pastor in 1990 told me about JMac and I’ve listen daily since. Now sometimes 2-3 sermons a day. Thank you John for so much great teaching.
I love John MacArthur and I'm so very thankful for him. I attend a Church every Sunday where too much of the outside secular world has influenced it and the women are the leaders. It is weak and most importantly it is failing. I'm thankful that I can tune in on the internet and listen to wise men like John MacArthur and get the truth despite not getting it on a Sunday.
@@mikelandryjr7310 I thumbed up all the replies to me. I am in Canada, even the "evangelical" denominations like Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal that advertise that they are Churches that follow the Bible and do appear to on the surface have allowed subtlety these degenerate ideas and ideology into the Church. I have pretty much given up finding an appropriate Church for the time being. Things are so wishy washy and weak in my country in general and it has spilled into our Churches and I'm tired of trying to beat my head against the wall. Its sad but that's the reality right now.
thank you for sharing. SO THANKFUL for pastor MacArthurs ministry. he always gets flack from the christian community even. may God continue to protect and bless him
Love John MacArthur and I totally understand what he is talking about when it comes to Lordship and his book, “The Gospel According to Jesus”. I believed a false gospel for the first 27 years of my life and I had an incident that led me to surrender my life to Christ. There are many Christians out there that will hear Jesus tell them he doesn’t know them. I have become a minister for Fellowship of Christian Athletes because I feel the call to warn people about accepting the false gospel that is too common in American culture
God bless John MacArthur. His ministry has been a blessing as I continue to read the Word and study in-depth of the Bible. I still have a lot to learn as I pray for wisdom. I'm looking forward to more of his books.
Eternal blessings to my Dear Pastor Dr John MacArthur, I have been following His teachings for 10 years, now I know and Love 💕 more Jesus every day, thanks 🙏 Amazing Men of God Dr MacArthur.
John MacArthur: sound Christian doctrine LIKE A BOSS! And I mean, a humble “boss” yet one whose authority comes from his faith in God and his own surrender and submission to Jesus Christ, which obviously shows in the ways The Holy Spirit has worked in him and through him. The opposition is fierce...but that’s to be expected when it comes to speaking the truth about The Truth...Who’s Jesus Himself! To follow Him is to literally declare war in the ways of this world...hence the world hates us...obviously, so does the prince of darkness...the actual liar, who’s satan and his followers. They rejected/reject and hated/hate our Lord...therefore, they reject and hate us...and since He loves them, so must we! Forgiving and loving those who count themselves as our enemies...this is how we show whom we truly are! We are followers of Jesus Christ! Therefore, we FOLLOW HIM AND HIS WAYS...NOT our own ways and certainly not the ways of this world! Sounds like yours has been quite the journey, brother MacArthur...and we’re so blessed that God has your journey here still “in progress”! Thank you and thanks also to “brother wretched”...lol... Thanks brother Chris for sharing this! God blesses! 😊🙏❤️✝️
Teflon Don Hi! Thank you for your comment. I never heard John MacArthur teach contrary to salvation through faith in Jesus Christ alone...so I don’t understand your claims that he believes the false doctrine of salvation through works. Would you mind presenting some evidence to back up your serious accusation against John MacArthur? I’m not saying you’re wrong - John MacArthur has been a Christian theologian, author, and teacher for 50 years...that’s just a couple years shy of my age...lol... - and since I’ve only begun listening to his sermons about a decade ago or so but not as frequently as in the past couple years, I’m pretty sure I have yet to watch most of his sermons. However, recently I’ve been watching his sermons quite frequently, almost daily and often times, more than one sermon a day. I’m finding that he has quite a few sermons on salvation through faith in Christ alone while exposing false legalistic teachers, who impose and teach the false satanic doctrine of salvation through works. Therefore, as far as my exposure to his ministry, sermon messages and my understanding of it, I find MacArthur teaching exactly as per the Bible verses you mentioned above. If you wish, I’ll be glad to share links to some of MacArthur’s sermons about salvation through faith in Christ alone. By the way, I don’t always agree with how John MacArthur comes across. Though there were only 2 or 3 instances in which I thought he could’ve done much better in expressing himself, as far as I understood it, there was nothing in his message contrary to what I know as Sound Biblical Doctrine. One thing I completely agree with you is that all of us must place our trust solely on God! Thank you for expressing this truth! God bless you and again, thank you for your comment!
Elevated Harmony I just came back from watching that video. I’m not a Calvinist personally. I love my Calvinist brothers in Christ. But I have to say, that video is one of the worst misrepresentations of Calvinism I’ve ever seen. That Pastor doesn’t have a clue and needs to spend some more time researching a system of theology before he tries to tear it apart. It’s sad to see someone look so silly arguing against a theology he is so badly misrepresenting. I left pretty much the same comment there as well.
Thank you for sharing this portion 9f thr conference. I'm in Shiro Tx 77876 and I worked the entire time that the conference was going, so I caught bits and pieces thru out the days. I'm grateful, thank you.
As a latecomers to Christ and becoming of age in 1980, my whole life is ruined. The first generation, shacked up, sexual freedom, relativism etc. I'm divorced, alone and wish I had become a Christian at 20 and married Gods way.
Delores, I have made many many poor decisions too. Lived a life of sexual sin (while claiming to be a "Christian" - indeed, believed I was!). Sure, I have loads of regret as well, but then I remember God's mercy and grace towards me. A sinner like me! Eternal LIFE in the presence of my Lord and Savior! People like us can teach and encourage others because we have experienced the wrong ways to live. Until the Lord calls us home, His way is the way to life (now and forever). Keep encouraging yourself and others in Truth!
@The Bibliognost David is a blind man. He loves lies because he cannot rightly see. Man cannot rightly see without the illumination of the Holy Spirit. Pray that The Father draws him unto Himself and that David is truly born again in Christ. Blessings to you
TRUE Christians, regardless of denomination, will always come together as drops of water become the ocean. A TRUE Christian is one who loves GOD with all his heart, mind and soul and loves others as he loves himself and feeds the hungry, clothes the naked, visits and befriends the lonely and in prison, shows mercy, kindness and compassion, has quiet patience and serves all by waiting upon the Lord.
God Bless our pastors made fit to lead by God. I am quite content, humbled and forever grateful with a joyous heart for my assignment as a "woman" from The Most High God. Therefore, I am a slave to Christ, I am a subservient wife and dutiful mother. 1st Timothy Chapter 2 Verse 12; I will and would never attempt to teach or lead men. Christ Jesus is my Lord and He is my Savior. I am Not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, for it saved my life.
I had to listen to many many of his teachings to see that this man is a true man of god and those that judge him on this alone utube is totally misguided
So does anyone have a link to the video that Dr. MacArthur refers to where he was invited by Dr. Sproul to teach on election, and Dr. Sproul was sitting in the front row with a coke in his hands listening to him preach? I'd LOVE to hear or see that sermon!!!
The minimalist salvation view is a serious problem now a days in the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement. I still go to IDFB church, but only because I have been unable to find a reformed theology church. I hear a lot of demonization in the IDFB circle of Calvinism, yet the things the Bible teaches are exactly what Calvin taught. He taught nothing new that I know of. Also I know when I got saved March 1st 2016 it was only when Christ made me see myself as a wicked lost sinner who needed to repent that I had true faith in Christ. Before that I was just religious but lost. But after that, I am no.longer the man I was. God is continually showing me the truth of Scripture and without repentance there is no salvation. It's no wonder I never quit my known sins of the past after praying "this little prayer" a lot of times. But when Christ got a hold of me from His Word, there was no skating over repentance or Lordship. Christ is now my Saviour and Lord thanks be to the Triune Holy God. I want to be more like my Saviour now and not live in deliberate sin or accidental sin. Repentance must be part of the born again process that God performs on His elect.
Praise be to the living God for faithful servants as John MacArthur. I am so grateful for his ministry. I thank God for the ministry of RC Sproul, James Montgomery, Martin Llyod Jones, David Pawson, John Piper, Zac Poonen, Paul Washer, Voddie Baucham etc etc
All you hate mongers, towards the true man of God Johnny Mac, I know who you are, and I say this because you love to do the deeds of your father the devil, who is the original sinner. You are decived, how I know that, just by your comments about this true man of God. You can't stand to hear the truth of Scriptures, just like your father the devil, because there is no truth in the devil, and he has duped you to believe lies about the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. You hate the Lord, that is why, you hate His word of truth. Jesus Christ is Lord, and someday along with your father the devil unless you repent before is to late. You will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. The Lord Jesus Christ is Holy, and you say I am saved just by believing in Him, and then go and live like the devil. If you were truly saved you will hate your sins just like Jesus hates all sin, and you would love Jesus and would obey His commandments , Jesus said in John 14:15, if you love me you will keep my commandments. Now no true Christian can live perfectly or obey perfectly not even Apostle Paul lived perfectly, Romans 7. But all those who are true born of His Spirit, children of God, will for the rest of their lives strive to walk in obedience not on their own but by the power of the Holy Spirit who lives in them. It is the Holy Spirit who convicts us of our sins and leads us to forsake them, and thus we are day by day, sanctified by the Holy Spirit, and guess what the Spirit of God, uses to sanctify us, Jesus said in John 17:17, as He was praying for all those who belong to Him. He said Sanctify them by Your truth ,Your word is truth. It's obvious you don't know the Lord, if you did, you would continue in His word and you would know the truth and the truth would set you free, in your case free from Satan, and his lies he whispers in your ears lies and says, you are saved, you went forward and received Jesus, you said the prayer, you raised your hand, you are saved by grace, you are covered, don't worry about your sins you are now living in,and practicing, they are covered by grace just go ahead live like like me, sin all you want, for the rest of your lives and God will let you in His heaven. You are duped by the father of lies who you fallow. You are still not convinced. Jesus said why do you call me Lord, Lord, and don't do what I say. Luke 6:46. How about this one, not everyone who says to Me Lord, Lord, will shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Matt. 7:21. Are you hearing the word of the Lord. I hope and pray that you will hear His word,and repent quickly, and cry out to God to forgive your sins, as you confess them, and ask Him to save your soul. He knows if you mean business with Him, that is, He sees your heart, and if you do mean business with Him, truly He will not only forgive you and save your soul, at that very moment you will be baptized by His Holy Spirit into the true body of Christ, and you will be born of His Spirit who will never leave you nor forsake you never. And then the Holy Spirit will teach the truth of Scriptures to you as you study His word. 2 Timothy 2:15, and you will fall in love with Jesus like never before and you will, by the power of the Holy Spirit, strive to live in obedience to His Scriptures His word, which will sanctify you day by day until He takes you home. Then you will be like Jesus perfect and Holy. Read. 2 Corinthians 5:17, Titus 2:12, if you are still bent on going the devil's way by abusing God's grace as a license to sin, then be assured you are decived and when you findlay stand before the Lord, this is what Jesus will say to you, in Matt. 7:22-23. Many will say to Me, in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name. And then will I declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me you who practice iniquity. If you are not hearing what the Lord Jesus is saying to you by His word of truth, the Scriptures I quoted, then He also says this to you. You will not believe because you are not of My sheep. Lord Jesus Christ, please have mercy on all who are decived by not submitting to Your clear truth Lord, which even a child can grasp and understand, please open the eyes of those who say I believe in Jesus that He died for my sins and say some kind of prayer to you and then go away and nothing has changed in their lives as far as their sins go, they just keep on living in sin by believing false teachers whom they fallow or have heard on TV or You Tube, who abuse your grace and tell lies, that they are covered by your grace and that they can have their sins, and You also, along with their sins, blasphemy right from the pit of hell. Lord you are in the business of saving souls for your glory, snatch those who are decived thinking they are saved when in fact they are not. Open their ears to hear your word of truth, and open their eyes to see that they are duped by the father of lies, none other then devil himself. Mercy Father God mercy on their souls save many Lord Jesus.
Amen. I grew up in a dead spirit church, went to several charismatic churches, and I knew deep down these weren't right at all, there's sth wrong. I always believe that the bible should be at the centre of christian teaching. I stumbled upon one of his sermon in youtube, and I knew I had found a true christian that is worth listening to. Then I found some other teachers, R.C. Sproul, Steve Lawson, Piper, and Paul Washer. Regards from Indonesia.
Adria on the vine I have a deaf friend who was very upset because whilst watching one of those left behind fictional films the captions put an F instead of a B for the character called ‘Buck’ 😢
Colette Paré you tubes closed caption thing is bad. They mess that up about as much as they don’t. It is like trying to decipher a foreign language, sometimes.
Tood Friel practically deifies John MacArthur, as do others, so I understand his reluctance to chastise him. Having said that, Mr. MacArthur made one unbelievably heretical statement some years back and I never seen any of these "disciples of John" correct him. Mr. MacArthur said that a person could take the mark of the beast and still be saved afterwards. This is disturbing to say the least, as it completely contradicts what is clearly written in Revelation 14:9-12. I wish this guy would stop endorsing everybody on "his team," no matter what they say, while condemning others at the same time.
We need more explanation from John why he said so. We just can't call him a heretic or something like that just from a few words of the statement. He knows the Bible better than us.
@@mrbhavan1986 Watch this and tell me what you think. He makes two great points from Revelation that seem impervious to argument. John MacArthur was wrong. I hope his errant teaching doesn't give anybody the idea that they will be able to take the mark. Their decision would be his fault. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5SkqTptsfBM.html
The problem with those like Macarthur and mr Friel who make a living out of judgement seem beyond criticism, yet both are trapped in a lie that is Calvanism and Lordship Salvation 😳
A lie? please...reformed theology is a nickname for biblical christianity. Calvin defended the Scriptures. The Lord is the 'author', He initiates. It's all about Him!
Reformed Theology comes and goes like fashion, its in vouge right now that is why so many like your self jump to defend it, it will drop off the radar again, as it does not represent God in a true Biblical way but presents a narrcassistic puppet master who brings about all manner of evil then punishes his Creatures for what He determined, that is Not the God of the Bible of whom Jesus said" if You have seen me you have seen the Father" but a sick misrepresentation!! search your heart, even though you probably believe it to be deceitful and desperately wicked...
@@rowlandskylark6560 Your absolutely right. Its sad that the blind cannot see because they do not want to see! Its the "Elvis effect" They are awestruck by the super star status of MacArthur. He is Hansome, has a quick whit and a soft nice voice. He is Rich (24 million) and famous. He is no more a Christian than Elvis. Yet defend your king is the call for the day! Talking to a given over Calvinist is like talking to a JW or Morman. They have made their choice, Rarely will they look into what they have signed up for and defend. "A house divided against itself cannot stand" Calvinism and Christianity are polar opposites!
Christians shouldn't feel they need to defend or explain themselves to their attackers. Just go on the offensive, thus as a protected class and inform your attackers they are commiting a hate crime against you and you will protect your rights. Then get an attorney who will sue them under whatever statutes will best apply to your situation.
Chris Salter why did you allow comments? You invited in contentiousness and quarels. The foolish vipers have descended. Mimic the wisdom of men who do not allow comments ie wretched channel and grace to you channel. Btw; where did you get this video? Did you ask permission to take it?
People who are of the free grace movement thinks he preaches salvation by works, but it’s a flat lie. What he emphasizes on what the Bible actually says in James 2:14-26. What do we do with that passage? It is said that Luther didn’t like it very much. But if we’re going to believe James is part of Scripture, then we’re going to accept it doesn’t contradict the rest of Scripture, rather it compliments it. It’s a shame that those who aren’t you try yo explain what you believe. The free grace movement doesn’t like the idea of sanctification, the constant battle of the Christian to reach the stature of the perfect man. Let’s use the duck saying and apply it to this: If it walks like a non believer and it sounds like a non believer, it’s probably a non believer. In a nutshell, Christians are saved by grace through faith in Christ alone, but your new nature will automatically call you to walk in Christ and serve him. If that doesn’t happen, then what is that person?
David Ortiz The Word if God is also wisdom. And you are condemning someone foolishly. You have no idea how dangerous that is, not because he’s a minister, but it’s dangerous to condemn anyone who has confessed trust in Jesus. Just watch so that you yourself aren’t in fact a lost soul. True believers debate respectfully and with Scripture on hand. There has to be a balance. If all you claim is to be in the Spirit, you can do anything, just like the Charismatic church: Bark, roll, jump, barf, fall back, etc. None of that is Biblical.
@Elevated Harmony wow ...you really don't know what lordship salvation is. That's why there's so much rubbish in church today. So many men wanting to be the author of their salvation...
The more I read John MacArthur's critics the more I realise how right he is. Those saying rubbish are being complimented and elevated for being popular only. The ways of the world.
Jesus 'the Same yesterday, and To-day, and forever' has not changed His mind, and is saying To-day, 'If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray seeking my face, and turn from their wicked ways, THEN will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land' (2Chron.7:14)...
Wisdom is studying Gods word IN CONTEXT. The Dedication of the Temple 2 Chronicles 7 : When Solomon finished praying, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices, and the glory of the Lord filled the temple. 2 The priests could not enter the temple of the Lord because the glory of the Lord filled it. 3 When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the glory of the Lord above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the Lord, saying, “He is good; his love endures forever.” 4 Then the king and all the people offered sacrifices before the Lord. 5 And King Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty-two thousand head of cattle and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep and goats. So the king and all the people dedicated the temple of God. 6 The priests took their positions, as did the Levites with the Lord’s musical instruments, which King David had made for praising the Lord and which were used when he gave thanks, saying, “His love endures forever.” Opposite the Levites, the priests blew their trumpets, and all the Israelites were standing. 7 Solomon consecrated the middle part of the courtyard in front of the temple of the Lord, and there he offered burnt offerings and the fat of the fellowship offerings, because the bronze altar he had made could not hold the burnt offerings, the grain offerings and the fat portions. 8 So Solomon observed the festival at that time for seven days, and all Israel with him-a vast assembly, people from Lebo Hamath to the Wadi of Egypt. 9 On the eighth day they held an assembly, for they had celebrated the dedication of the altar for seven days and the festival for seven days more. 10 On the twenty-third day of the seventh month he sent the people to their homes, joyful and glad in heart for the good things the Lord had done for David and Solomon and for his people Israel. The Lord Appears to Solomon 11 When Solomon had finished the temple of the Lord and the royal palace, and had succeeded in carrying out all he had in mind to do in the temple of the Lord and in his own palace, 12 the Lord appeared to him at night and said: “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for myself as a temple for sacrifices. 13 “When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 15 Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place. 16 I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there. 17 “As for you, if you walk before me faithfully as David your father did, and do all I command, and observe my decrees and laws, 18 I will establish your royal throne, as I covenanted with David your father when I said, ‘You shall never fail to have a successor to rule over Israel.’
JM owes apologies especially to Beth Moore and Eileen Gray. The truth is coming out. Looks like no matter what the real truth is you all won’t listen. You’re too enamored.
We are saved by Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. We are dead to sin because we are reborn and alive in Christ. The men in this video say that there are many steps to being saved....wrong! Jesus told the disciples the work of God is to believe in the one He has sent.. Read the bible
I truly meant no disrespect. Reference Ephesians 2: 8,9. Adding to the fisished work of Christ on the cross at calvary is wrong. He cried out "it is finished " Besides, our righteousness is only filthy rags anyway. Reference Isaiah. Again brother, I meant no ill will. Glory to God
Well it sounds like you’re a little confused. Although accepting Christ as our Savior is how we are saved we are also instructed to go out and sin no more. And being born again means we become new, how are our acts not going to be different? Not that we are doing the new things because we are somehow trying to buy our way into heaven, but because being Christian and living as a Christian we do good deeds and try to live according to the law, God’s law. That sounds like what you’re saying. And remember, when you’re new in the faith, you are like a child and you don’t know everything about the new life you are now part of, that’s not saying you’re not saved or saved more or less than anybody else. The Bible also says to those that are given much, much will be expected. God’s love is unconditional and the story of the protocol son sums that up for new Christians, they are overwhelmingly accepted home.
Vince Mccall Your a confused man,, lord is incremental not in place of, he is in fact my lord who saved me through his work in the cross. That's it,What's so hard to understand.
I like them both a lot - they are not appeasers and work on carving out the good news constantly 🤗by the way a communist calling someone a chauvinist is a compliment 🤠
I agree that the text should be exegeted. But I have yet to see any exegesis which would lead me to believe that women could preach in church. I think the New Testament clearly shows women involved in following Jesus, telling others to follow him, assisting his ministry with resources, and learning the Gospel. As for the disciples, apostles, elders, overseers, and (probably most) deacons, they were men. This would accord with the Hebrew Bible, in which the elders, judges, (most) prophets, and Rabbis were men. This seems consistent to me. If you have a different understanding, could you share the verses and context?
@David Ortiz I fail to see where Miriam "pretended to be a prophet". Can you defend that exegetically? Also, Deborah and Huldah were prophets. The Rabbi's count 7 women as prophets in the Hebrew Bible. As I stated beforehand, this has not changed the role of elder or Rabbi in Israelite times (or today). It is unnecessary to pretend that no women did anything in the Bible just to defend the teaching of Paul.
@Black To Grace If you want bad Doctrine how about the calvinist view of predestination and limited atonement? How about John MacArthur's lordship salvation? How about cessationism? There is plenty of bad theology outside of the Pentecostal world, and the vast majority of evangelism globally is being done by Pentecostals and charismatics. So there is good as well as bad.
Wow Todd, you actually let people leave comments on this video. Way to speak deeper into the echo chamber on this one. It's almost like you never interviewed Dr. MacArthur or any one of those in the reformed circle before.
Not sure who you’re referring to but feel free to post as much scripture as you want that is relevant to your comment. I’m all for it. I love it all. 👏🏻
These men base their authority to interpret scripture on what? After 30 years of study, I'm happy to have discovered the Catholic Church. The pomposity of the gnostic, positivist Calvinist is sad. I've never heard any of this crowd demonstrate that they understand the Catholic view of works and justification as expressed in the Council of Trent. It's always something sloppy like, "Catholics believe in salvation though works." No.
warren smith : Who is? You are unaware that there are two different Soteriological systems, Calvinism/Lordship Salvation or Free Grace Theology? And you are unaware that you have agreed with the wrong system? There are sad repercussions for that foolish decision you’ve made.
They know the Bible but don’t UNDERSTAND the Bible... wow I can not believe what y’all teach. For sure it’s not our Jesus from the Bible. I’m a Catholic and would like a debate
@@kurtanderson5023 Hello Kurt I am not the enemy. Those that suppress the TRUTH are. Jesus said this about his Gospel message to all of man kind. and I quote Jesus's Words through Timothy 1Timothy 2 3-6 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. John MacArthur and his host both reject and teach that God does not want to save all people and has blinded them so they cannot come to the truth and God did not give Himself for the ransom of all people. This is a fact about these men it would be easy for you to research. If you are interested in real Truth do your home work. They don't hide it at all. Piper, Sprowl, Calvin, Augustine, Luther and many others taught this openly. Heresy is defined "as a belief or opinion contrary to accepted Christian doctrine. If you agree with John MacArthur you follow Heresy, its as simple as that . I will stay with the Truth of God's Word. I am not a disciple of Prasch or any man. Prasch's teaching is rightly dividing the word of truth. God is my teacher. Don't be blind sided by famous, rich people like MacAthur. ( his net worth has been estimated at 24 million, taken from the flock ) I only answered you in hope of helping you and warning you of dangerous wolves in sheep's clothing. If you really want to learn I would suggest you watch some teaching of Dr Flowers on youtube. ru-vid.com/show-UCPRJ7X3hyFvm-3Jo8rVWYOw He is a former Calvinist which has now become a Christian. His teaching is kind hearted but firm. John MacArthur and the others I mentioned are the high priests of Calvinism in our day. TRUTH
@@kurtanderson5023 The fact is, life is all about free will. There is a Big picture and a small picture to explain the purpose of existence. God decided to create two new classes of thinking creative beings. Man and the Angels. God wanted to have a relationship with them in a new place called Heaven. But the big problem! God gave these being the most dangerous thing He could give them. FREE WILL! God made these beings in His own image. Creative, thinking free will beings allowed to make their own decisions. The conditions we see the world in shows the outcome of free will. The Angels rebelled, But not all. With their free will many decided to stay true to the God who loves them. To mankind all rebelled. Earth is a type of boot camp to deal with mans free will. Many will respond to the gospel of forgiveness and master their free will by Gods help. The hardest part is that we are to live by faith and not by sight here. That goes against everything in our nature. Most live by sight and not by faith. That is the TEST!! The small picture Earth as it is, will be destroyed when the last person has lived and made their decision to follow God or man. Then it will be destroyed as the world had served its purpose. Now you have the big picture. Heaven with God living face to face in a loving relationship with His Holy Angels that did not rebel. God living face to face with humans that turned to Jesus in Repentance, by their own free will. Not a Heaven with mindless puppet robot creatures, but beings with the dignity that God gave them as the pinnacle of His creation. Its true that the wages of sin by your own free will is death. Death for the demon angels and death for evil man. The lake of fire is the second death and they are no more! Not the Catholic torture chamber day after day for ever and ever! But exist no more! Its that simple! TRUTH IN LOVE
I have no respect for either of these men. They spend their ministry life throwing rocks at ministries they d8sagree with theologically. Occasionally we hear a teaching from MacArthur where he doesn't pause to try and derail another ministry.
MacArthur said, “There is no case that can be made biblically for a woman preacher. Period. Paragraph. End of discussion...….OH, really? Paul addresses this charge in Titus 2:4, encouraging older women to teach younger women, to raise them up in the faith. What MacArthur said was biblically incorrect and he should apologize.
+Donna -- Titus clearly says that women are to teach WOMEN.. NOT be Pastors, NOT teach MEN. You don't see the difference?? apostle Paul says, "I suffer a woman NOT to teach" meaning Pastoring a church, preaching/teaching MEN.. there IS a difference.. CONTEXT is everything, if you ever read a Bible.. MacArthur should apologize but NOT for THAT.. For saying one can take the Mark of the Beast and still be saved, YES! For Saying there is NO efficacy in the Blood of Christ, YES! For saying that women are NOT to preach in the church - NO!! Because the apostle Paul said the SAME thing through the Spirit of God! Women are in NO WAY to teach MEN..Period!!
@@TheMistysFavs Beth Moore does teach women....occasionally a man may hear her teach. And this has been going on for a long time. Why mock a woman who has impacted so many for God? Why would a panel of men laugh at her? Don't you see this is ridicule? She's not a pastor...she's a teacher.. Prophetess, deacons, etc. Women do not get excluded and they should not be the subject of ridicule. Of that I am sure. Jesus stood up for women, some of outcasts.
Donna, you have neglected to quote the rest of that verse. The teaching here is to do with women submitting to their husbands, being workers at home, raising the family etc. And you're wrong: Pastor MacArthur has correctly exegeted that verse in his sermons. His exact quote from the latest on this topic: "Of course women can teach..." The objection is to holding the role of elder and overseer (who preaches to the assembled congregation) in the Church.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Moore is a teacher, not a preacher. Why don't you leave her alone? The objection most people have about this situation is the attitude of mockery. A panel of men laughing at a women. Maybe you didn't see it. This critical judgmental tearing down of people is not what the NT teaches. Good day.
First of all--are we related? I am Tom Salter. Second, this guy---who does "Wretched" is a joke--he doesn't allow people to ever express their opinion--thumbs up or thumbs down. He's a coward!
Of course he does. Todd Friel has a very well known street ministry which he takes across the U.S., mostly to University campuses and other large outdoor gatherings. During these mission efforts he always reasons with the crowd out of the scriptures. Shalom!
John MacArthur treads underfoot the necessity and efficacy (power) of the literal, physical, precious, blood of Jesus Christ! Literally, MacArthur teaches that Jesus' physical blood soaked into the dirt at Calvary and stayed there, having no significance of itself. That's blasphemy and a deadly teaching, because without the blood applied to the mercy seat in the Old Testament, the sins of the people weren't atoned for. If the blood hadn't been applied to the home's doorpost in Egypt, the firstborn died. Likewise, if Christ's literal, liquid, precious, blood hadn't been sprinkled upon the heavenly Mercy Seat to appease the wrath of Father against man's sin, our sins couldn't have been washed away.
Women can teach and proclaim the gospel, like Joni Eareckson Tada and Kay Arthur. Your pastor and Todd Friel's mockery of women dishonored the Lord and his Body. Power and Control is about abuse. The need to exercise power and control is not love. It is not authority. Your need to elevate yourself and put someone like Beth Moore down, because she is more successful than you, is clearly motivated by the need for power. You're okay with Joni and Kay.....but not a more successful woman. LOL. BTW, most men do not want to be plumbers so that doesn't even make any sense. In the light of your acceptance of Joni and Kay, hitting Beth Moore while people in the audience laugh is clearly a joke at her expense. Sexism. And, Todd Friel, what would you have to say if you weren't tearing people down? Consistently, critical and judgmental. Word to you guys: Jesus did not tear people down. He lifted them up and valued them. This "joke" of yours said so much about who you are. They will know we are Christians by our love.
It funny how people say someone is being critical and judgmental, when that statement is critical and judgmental. Lady you are guilty of what you are charging John for. I just call it like i see it.
@@neilwhitaker6284 I am not bashing "all men" neither do I believe that all the problems in the church or society lay at the feet of "men" or "women." Believe me, I pray that the Lord will raise up more men in the church who will rightly divide the word of truth and preach the gospel. This incident, however, was not an example of that. It was mockery. I'm not against you brother but I am against bullying and talking down to people viewed as "lower status." The Lord called out the religious leaders of his day for hypocrisy....he didn't take cheap shots. Maybe you should find another church....if you do not feel you are being heard. I mean that sincerely. May the Lord bless you with all that he has planned for you.
@@bordendonna thank you for your reply. I do look for another Church but it is not easy and sometimes I feel I just won't ever find one. John MacArthur is the man in my early days of Christianity that reached out and grabbed me and pulled me in and helped me to want and to seek Jesus. He did so much for me. Perhaps why I am very defensive of him now. God Bless you!