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WW2 Battle Of The Bulge: MALMEDY MASSACRE 1944 

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The Malmedy Massacre was a defining moment in the Battle of the Bulge.
It marked a turning point in the resistance of American Troops defending every inch of Belgium soil against the onslaught of the German Armies in their attempt to retake Antwerp.
Committed by the men of the 1st SS Panzer Division - the men of the 285th Field Artillery Observation Battalion would be brutally massacred in a field just outside of the town of Malmedy on the 17th December 1944.
News of the atrocity soon spread as survivors made their way to friendly lines. While deeply troubling, the news strengthen the resolved of the GIs knowing that to surrender meant death.
I visit the field where it took place and explain the tragic events that took place that day in December 1944.
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@johnp2113
@johnp2113 11 месяцев назад
My father was on the front lines of the Batlle of the Bulge on the morning of December 16, 1944 positioned on the hill outside of Murringen. By midnight, the 134th AAA Gn Bn was given orders to withdraw and almost certainly passed thru this intersection. My dad said that word of this massacre of prisoners spread thru the American troops like wildfire. The GI's realized that if they surrendered, the SS troops would certainly murder them in cold blood. This reality quickly turned the battle into a knock down, battle to the death. Surrender was not an option. I toured the Ardennes during June 2007. Visiting this memorial was an important stop on the tour.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
I can imagine how those stories went through the ranks and it clearly did a lot to strength the resolve of the GI’s knowing what could happen. I’m glad you’ve been able to tour the area where your Father served and I’m thankful for his service and that of his buddies.
@836dmar
@836dmar Год назад
Well done. Thank you for respectfully memorializing these men.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
It's a honour and privilege to be able to tell their story and to hope they are never forgotten.
@zitabennett6831
@zitabennett6831 11 месяцев назад
Such a sad story. Thank you for honouring those brave men.
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Год назад
Thank you for honoring, these fallen men. War is ugly, and not righteous much of the time- it’s good that things like this are exposed.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
It's a privilege to be able to tell their story. I just hope that their memory is never forgotten.
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Год назад
As a kid I remember visiting the Bataan Death March- As an adult, and a soldier… I keep thinking- if only they knew what was in stored for them, they would have fought to the last man.
@ncwoodworker
@ncwoodworker 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your interesting presentation on your perspective of this dreadful massacre.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! A very difficult subject to cover in terms of stating the facts but being respectful to the men and their families who were murdered that day.
@m1m3rmedia
@m1m3rmedia Год назад
While I was there a few years ago all I could think of was the horrific images and videos of the frozen bodies being dug up. Even though it was a sunny day in June.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
The area has a solemn yet uneasy feel to it. Every time I'm in the area I stop even if just briefly to pay my respects to the men who fell there.
@nexusgroupnxt
@nexusgroupnxt Год назад
Another great video! Thankyou!
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Год назад
I was watching this interview of a survivor that played dead- he remembers the SS soldiers mocking the dying men calling out to their mothers. So horrible, despicable…
@brianford8493
@brianford8493 11 месяцев назад
Brought me to tears......those young boys taken like that.
@matthewaves255
@matthewaves255 Год назад
Spent this weekend in Stavelot and did the round robin of your videos so Thanks. Concur that the Dec 44 museum is great.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
Fantastic! Hope the weather was good for you and you enjoyed it there! That part of Belgium is always great to visit.
@25046106
@25046106 4 месяца назад
Fascinating but horrific story, can't even imagine what the ones who survived the initial firing went through. Thanks for the video. It's easy to forget that war is usually utter hell for the soldiers involved, on all sides. Many still believe that only the Germans were capable of such acts. My Grandfather fought in North Africa with the British Tank Corps. His cousin told me about a time years after the war. My Grandad had issue with some young lads in a pub in Newcastle . They were mouthing off about how evil the Germans were. He tried to tell them not to talk about things they knew nothing about but they mouthed off at him and carried on. Angered my Grandad pinned one of them against the wall and told them about the time his unit killed a company of German soldiers who had surrendered. His unit had orders not to halt the their advance for any reason and not to take any prisoners. They captured a company of Germans who surrendered. The Germans were all lined up in ranks and killed by three machine guns. His unit left them where they fell and continued advancing I've no idea if it was a full company of men or whether that got lost in translation over the years but it was significant enough for it to have quite an impact on my Grandad years later
@rojokoyo8461
@rojokoyo8461 4 месяца назад
My grandmother told me that my grandfather Samuel Albert H was also killed in the massacre in Malmedy, I have never gone on a pilgrimage there. If God allows me, someday when I have enough savings I will visit the place where my grandfather was killed.
@paulsmyth104
@paulsmyth104 Год назад
Another Fantastic video .. Well Done 👏🏻 Such a shame that the wonderful museum closed ,it was Excellent !!
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
Thank you Paul. I was really surprised to hear the museum had closed. I always thought it was a really good one especially given how it dealt with the massacre topic etc.
@bobapbob5812
@bobapbob5812 11 месяцев назад
We had a fair near Fredericksburg VA several years ago. We had reenactors from different eras: Romans, French and Indian War, Civil War, Revolution and FIRST SS PANZER. When I complained (my father was a combat infantry officer, Omaha Beach, 29th Division,) The organizers did not understand what was wrong with this.
@DD-qw4fz
@DD-qw4fz 4 месяца назад
Do you truly believe only 1st SS panzer killed prisoners, by that logic you shouldnt reeneact any of the US airborne forces as they systematically killed even those prisoners taken in the first days of the D day invasion, same does for most landing units on the beach. Rage , hatred of the enemy, personal loss and the need for revenge, and simple practical reasons play a faaar bigger importance than "is that an ss unit or not"
@user-zn9yl7cw5m
@user-zn9yl7cw5m 3 месяца назад
@@DD-qw4fz My Dad told me sending a prisoner back usually ended up in "shot while trying to escape. You are right,
@brettgreene4341
@brettgreene4341 Год назад
I was lucky enough to see that memorial and the location of the massacre in 2019, and it's quite a powerful place to be and uh it makes you think of when you see those names on the wall 😞 ° the tour guider told us that one person from that massacre survived it, Will More, who actually came back several years later and was disgusted and angry that his name was on the memorial...so they got rid of it
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
It’s an incredible place and really makes you think. It’s a shame that it’s such a through route for the heavy traffic that goes through there but seeing it and knowing what took place there always makes you stop and think.
@brettgreene4341
@brettgreene4341 Год назад
@@WW2Wayfinder I cant argue with that sir, but Malmadey should be remembered by the people of who live thier, and if I'm honest that's the biggest massacre location (is where it happened) I've ever seen
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 Год назад
Not sure if you have covered the retreat of at Dunkirk but I think its worth mentioning it it was either British or Canadian troops put in to a barn and hand grenades thrown in to the the barn by the SS The barn still stands today in their memory, some played dead and manage to escape.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
La Paradis and wormhout. One day I will. Dunkirk is a source of fascination for me and I had a family member who made it back home from the beaches there
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 Год назад
@@WW2Wayfinder Glad to hear that one member of your Family made it back. Using small boats to escape in some cases made for a small targets but in one case a large ship was used and was hit with 300 men sadly it was sunk with 300 losing their lives.
@scottyp1348
@scottyp1348 11 месяцев назад
Oradoure sur glane I think your thinking of
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 6 месяцев назад
@@scottyp1348No that’s a totally different place hundreds of miles away.
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 6 месяцев назад
They was a massacre of Canadian troops in Normandy as well.
@nickraschke4737
@nickraschke4737 11 месяцев назад
First time I’ve heard of uncertainty re the circumstances. Don’t be afraid to call out nazis mate. Love your videos.
@maverick4177
@maverick4177 11 месяцев назад
Like many other war crimes, this event sealed the fates of EVERY identified SS soldier, very few were taken prisoner anywhere in the campaign, and not through choice!
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
Very much so!
@frankvandergoes298
@frankvandergoes298 10 месяцев назад
Plenty of SS soldiers were taken prisoner and well treated. Don't fall for the propaganda.
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 7 месяцев назад
Like the 500 plus German soldiers who were butchered at Paderborn in early 1945. This happened as a result of Maurice Rose being killed in combat.
@johncataldo5529
@johncataldo5529 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately the killing of prisoners of war happened on both sides on all fronts. It wasn't all one way.
@h.hielsberg7010
@h.hielsberg7010 11 месяцев назад
I’m thinking that house built on that field after the war has got to be haunted big time.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
It’s crossed my mind each time I’ve visited! Makes you wonder what spirits linger there.
@paulweaver
@paulweaver Год назад
brilliant war stories love everything about battle of the bulge not long ago bought a book called battle of the bulge now and then by jean Paul pallud
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
His book is excellent! It almost needs a revamp though as it’s quiet old now but still an amazing piece of work and a great source of information!
@your_royal_highness
@your_royal_highness 6 месяцев назад
Yes I was there this summer. Studs Turkel wrote an acclaimed book of interviews one of which was with a cameraman who witnessed a shootout in a square in or outside of Munich. The SS gave up and he ran down the stairs of a house and followed the Americans marching the surrendered Germans into a courtyard where they got mowed down. Naturally this was well after Malmedy. His superiors said they could not develop the film….right….🙄
@johnhorton4089
@johnhorton4089 11 месяцев назад
Please bless and keep them dear Lord
@daviddigital6887
@daviddigital6887 11 месяцев назад
Pieper got a dose of karma. Great job on your videos. I learned some things I didn't know.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching! Peiper couldn’t escape his fate forever!
@peter9314
@peter9314 6 месяцев назад
His name is Peiper not Pieper and if you wanna learn something, don't watch this half true videos.
@dalbeattie1
@dalbeattie1 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@peter9314and you know the exact facts do you ?
@peter9314
@peter9314 6 месяцев назад
@@WW2Wayfinder What a BS
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Год назад
I remember watching America’s Most Wanted, a long time ago- turned out that one of the people of interest was a survivor of the massacre. I kept thinking, “maybe- give this guy a pass🤷🏻.” I don’t know what he did, or his name- I should look it up.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
oh wow, that would be interesting to know! Might have to take a look at that later today!
@richardmardis2492
@richardmardis2492 Год назад
@@WW2Wayfinder I did a quick google search- didn’t find it. I don’t think I’m crazy- but then crazy people seldom do 🤣
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
🤣
@georgeallen4495
@georgeallen4495 6 месяцев назад
My father told me that when this happened that most U.S. troops including himself had a even harder heart from then on towards the "care" of german prisoners especially those of the SS.
@Karl61290
@Karl61290 5 месяцев назад
Once again a very good interesting video .......just out of interest, in the courtroom photo with Pieper , the guy to the left of 34 looking straight at you is this not Gustav Knittel.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 5 месяцев назад
Amazing spot and makes that image even more chilling now to see him staring straight down the lens like that!
@Pinky_Staines1947
@Pinky_Staines1947 11 месяцев назад
Lest we Forget
@55giantsfan22
@55giantsfan22 10 месяцев назад
Rip to all those men
@adrianstannard3821
@adrianstannard3821 7 месяцев назад
For anyone interested in this subject the documentary (malmedy and the American attitude to justice) is well worth a watch!
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tip, I’ll have a look for that!
@adrianstannard3821
@adrianstannard3821 7 месяцев назад
I think you are one of the few to point out this might not of been the clear-cut massacre it has always been made out to be.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 7 месяцев назад
Thank you. It’s a very improve subject and one that requires a lot of tact for obvious reasons. I still need to read more on it and the book Fatal Crossroads is on my list as I’m led to believe it’s one of the best accounts of that day in 1944.
@adrianstannard3821
@adrianstannard3821 7 месяцев назад
@WW2Wayfinder I have that book, it's next on my reading list! Thanks for your videos. They are always enjoyable to watch, well balanced, and very informative.
@adrianstannard3821
@adrianstannard3821 7 месяцев назад
In regards to the man Peiper, the best book i have read is Hitlers warrior.....the life and wars of Colonel Joachim Peiper.
@angloaust1575
@angloaust1575 5 месяцев назад
According to reports the unit was told to avoid the route But the officer decided otherwise!
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 5 месяцев назад
Sadly, they were desperate to get to St Vith and took the quickest route despite being warned not to.
@patrickmccrann991
@patrickmccrann991 11 месяцев назад
Peiper wasn't even present when this event happened. He was a scapegoat. PoWs that were with his kampgruppe stated they were treated properly and when the gruppe retreated they were released unharmed with food and water provided. No evidence was ever presented during the trial that he had ordered prisoners murdered. Like General Yamashita in the Philippines, he was blamed for events when he was miles away at the time.
@patrickmccrann991
@patrickmccrann991 7 месяцев назад
@@timtarlac3476 No, I am not. Most murders committed by 1st SS Panzer Division were done on the Eastern Front. I do not condone those actions; however, they were no different than the Soviets who murdered thousands of German POWs during the war and kept hundreds locked up after the war for years as so-called "war criminals".
@tonylovesducks2501
@tonylovesducks2501 6 месяцев назад
@@patrickmccrann991 The Germans were starving in the battle of kursk and they let off their frustation on the soviet pows. The Pows starved to death but the germans had rations left for them or they wouldve starved themselves (and many did). Both sides had a big grudge against each other. But with the Americans it was mostly different. Steiner did march the West and lost many men on the way, so he could surrender his Soldiers to the US and not the Soviet.
@matthewmedeiros5832
@matthewmedeiros5832 6 месяцев назад
Peiper was a hero
@your_royal_highness
@your_royal_highness 6 месяцев назад
Peiper still had responsibility
@screenwriter44
@screenwriter44 6 месяцев назад
Peiper was in command. The commander is responsible
@Theardennes1944
@Theardennes1944 Год назад
please activate automatic subtitles (French-speaking Belgium)
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
I’m working on adding subtitles to all my videos, just takes time as there’s one of me to do it so please bear with me while I get around to it 😃
@Theardennes1944
@Theardennes1944 Год назад
👍👍👍👍👍
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
Now with French subtitles 😃
@DoktorDetroit
@DoktorDetroit 11 месяцев назад
A fitting end to a monster who defiled the reputation of fighting men of every nation. I hope and pray he went slowly, screaming to the end.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely.
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 7 месяцев назад
Here in Australia we have just had a defamation case against journalists by the VC winner Ben Roberts Smith of the SAS for war crimes he allegedly committed in Afghanistan, dismissed. The case polarised the nation. He has not yet appealed. Other members of the unit are being investigated. War crimes are universal and all sides commit them.
@riverbluevert7814
@riverbluevert7814 3 месяца назад
We should never forget them
@bikerguy5829
@bikerguy5829 9 месяцев назад
There should be a memorial placed in that field
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 9 месяцев назад
The memorial is just around the corner at the crossroads. The field I think is still used by the local farmers.
@frankcastle2045
@frankcastle2045 8 месяцев назад
Kind of hypocritical they were put on trial when the Americans did the exact same thing to the Germans and Italians 🙄👍🏻👏🏻
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 8 месяцев назад
It’s a very difficult subject for sure. The Chenogne Massacre on the 1st January 1945 and it’s cover up by the 11th Armored and Patton is a prime example of how history is written by the victors
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 7 месяцев назад
80 Germans killed at Chenogne and they weren’t even Waffen SS. History is written by the victors!!
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s also war. To the victor the spoils. And better that the alternative eh?
@markbutler5539
@markbutler5539 5 месяцев назад
Peiper was at the head of the KG. No such order to shoot prisoners was given. There would have been many more such incidents if there was such an order. That trial was such a sham that an investigation had to take place. The Ardennes offensive is still misunderstood in many aspects, and it's ridiculous. The G.I.'s shot thousands of German prisoners by the end of the war. I can tally up about 500 from what I've read and listened to. 200 men of the 17th SS were killed outside of Nuremburg just for the evil fun of it. The circumstances of the incident are seldom looked at. KG Peiper was strung out for about 15 miles along one or two roads. Vehicles were passing along that cross roads while the prisoners were there. Whatever happened was local.
@gasaenz100
@gasaenz100 6 месяцев назад
Unfortunately it was not the only case. The journalist Rick Atkinson in the book "The Day of Battle" the war in Sicily and Italy 1943-1944 cites the following fact: Here Atkinson tells a story I had never heard. A story that presents American soldiers not as “liberators” or “captors” of the Italians, but as their murderers. A story that contradicts Winston Churchill's statement - made at a press conference in Washington after the meetings that planned the invasions of Sicily and Italy - that “We will not stain our name with an inhuman act.” No less than two months after Churchill's statement, on Wednesday, July 14, 1943, Oklahoma National Guard members of the 180th Infantry executed dozens of Axis prisoners near Biscari, Sicily. Outside a group of olive trees along the Ficuzza River, Sgt. Horace West pointed a submachine gun at a group of 46 men (all but three Italians), killing thirty-seven. Later that afternoon, Captain John Travers Compton organized a firing squad (“several men volunteered”) that executed his 36 Italian prisoners (five in civilian clothes).
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for that, I wasn’t aware of that. I’m familiar with Chenogne and the massacre committed by the 11th Armored Division. It’s a very difficult subject area as it’s so emotionally charged but we should acknowledge the acts committed by both sides.
@gasaenz100
@gasaenz100 6 месяцев назад
@@WW2Wayfinder Yes, of course, one could say settling accounts on both sides, unfortunately. If I remember correctly, British soldiers in France and African American soldiers were also massacred by German soldiers. Please correct me if this is not the case. Thank you for your reply, and greetings from Argentina.
@northdevonpictures826
@northdevonpictures826 10 месяцев назад
Kampfgruppe Peiper's war crimes are well-documented and included the 1943 Boves massacre. Peiper's and his troops' death sentences were commuted and he lived until 1976.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 10 месяцев назад
Incredible to think their sentences were shortened despite the evidence against them!
@alantoon5708
@alantoon5708 9 месяцев назад
Peiper received his final accounting, as it were, in 1976. No one was ever arrested in connection with Peiper's death. The French authorities probably did not look too hard...
@alantoon5708
@alantoon5708 9 месяцев назад
​@@WW2WayfinderIt was decided by the NATO Allies that due to great imbalance in conventional forces in Europe, the FRG was allowed to re constitute a military much earlier than first planned. Commuting sentences was part of the deal, as most of those in high places in the new German army had served in WW2. It was a kind of a forgetting of the past as the new German military was greatly needed to make up numbers...so where do you find those with military experience in a country that had not had a military in 9 or 10 years? And of course, many war criminals were not found or punished.
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 7 месяцев назад
@@alantoon5708 He went out fighting. One man against many on that night in 1976. Peiper was not present at the massacre BTW. A US brigadier General Hal McGown testified as a character witness on Peiper’s behalf at the trial. He had been Peiper’s prisoner in La Gleize. And he lived to tell the tale???? If Peiper was such a beast, how could that happen??
@kodiakkeith
@kodiakkeith 6 месяцев назад
This wasn't an isolated case in the campaign. The 1st Waffen SS murdered prisoners all through the advance until they were crushed at La Gleize and fled on foot back to their own lines. They also murdered at least 117 Belgian civilians in and around Stavelot. It is true that they treated the POWs held at La Gleize correctly, but by then they were trapped by American units on all sides. You don't murder prisoners when you may have to surrender.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 6 месяцев назад
Agreed. Knittel and his Schnellgruppe were vicious in their attacks through Stavelot and the other villages that would suffer at the hands of the 1st SS.
@janf.vanachtern
@janf.vanachtern 10 месяцев назад
We will probably never know the exact truth. Nevertheless, people have died. R.I.P.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 10 месяцев назад
Agreed.
@heinrichrfss1
@heinrichrfss1 11 месяцев назад
Quid de la destruction des villes de malmedy et saint Vith entièrement rasées par l ' aviation américaine, causant de très nombreuses victimes civiles ???
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
I agree, it’s presents some very difficult questions that may not have any answers sadly.
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 6 месяцев назад
It’s war the innocent die in war sadly.
@trumanbentley9491
@trumanbentley9491 11 месяцев назад
No comment.
@Droodog127
@Droodog127 Год назад
was Christ wearing Camo trousers in court ?
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder Год назад
It definitely looks like it. I think they’re Italian camo (M1929 pattern). Initially I thought it was Splinter A but Splinter A was never issued to the SS and with the 1st SS serving in Italy for sometime it makes sense for it to be Italian camo.
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 7 месяцев назад
Looks like Italian camo
@joshkarena3058
@joshkarena3058 2 месяца назад
Part of this scene was portrayed in the movie "Battle of The Bulge". R.I.L. to all those servicemen who lost their lives in this undisciplined mass killing by German SS Soldiers at that time. ❤❤
@nzmonsterman
@nzmonsterman 10 месяцев назад
It's interesting to see all the people commenting on how horrible the Germans were in this instance, yet totally ignore the fact the Allies did the exact same thing all throughout WW2. It happened in North Africa, DDay and onwards, etc. No army was immune from killing prisoners of war, especially when advancing to achieve objectives at speed. There is plenty of documentation about these instances available these days. The massacre was also used as a huge propaganda tool to stiffen the resolve of the troops which worked as stated. Also alot of the confessions were obtained in a less than humane manner. This is also well documented and was one of the many reasons why Pieper was released from prison.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 10 месяцев назад
It’s definitely a difficult area to address especially in todays crazy climate. I’ve read numerous accounts of Allied soldiers doing the same to varying degrees. It’s something I would really like to address although I feel there is no answer for it unless you were there at that time in amongst the fear, confusion and anger etc.
@nzmonsterman
@nzmonsterman 10 месяцев назад
@@WW2Wayfinder reading books.on.the 5th RTR the killed prisoners by either outright machine gunning them or running them over in their tanks while.they were surrendering. The 18th NZ armoured regiment also said the same thing. Often because it wasn't easy to take them prisoner as they were advancing and it would slow them down. (Their words). The D Day landings had orders not to take prisoners until the beaches were secured, the Canadians killed German prisoners from the Panzer Lehr which lead to reprisals from the 12 SS. There were also cases of Americans killing German prisoners before the Malmendy massacre which was kept secret for years. And it goes on and on. It would be good to get your research on it. You do a great job and I enjoy your channel.
@cdb6010
@cdb6010 6 месяцев назад
I thought as well that during the trial some of the US soldiers confirmed that they either tried to make a run for it or picked up weapons after having been taken POW. Geneva convention is pretty clear what is allowed if that happens, one becomes a combatant..
@cdb6010
@cdb6010 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@nzmonsterman regarding Pz Lehr that was documented in the book: Three days in hell, conclusion was that this indeed led to the reprisals, basically a downward spiral back and forth.
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 5 месяцев назад
@@WW2Wayfinder You should do a video on it Jon.
@user-vr8uo3oj2h
@user-vr8uo3oj2h 4 месяца назад
Roosevelt brought them to that hell
@scottyp1348
@scottyp1348 11 месяцев назад
Glad they got him in the end
@Blair338RUM
@Blair338RUM 5 месяцев назад
Who? Poetschke? The Russians knocked him.
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 Год назад
I remember seeing the Battle Of The Bulge when it came out, and it was portrayed as a deliberate act of mass murder where a truck pulled up and a machine gun SG 42 on the back and the curtain was rolled up and the machine gun opened fire and 2 escaped.
@frankvandergoes298
@frankvandergoes298 11 месяцев назад
The scene with the truck pulling up and the tarpaulin being thrown back is a movie fantasy. Present when the killing took place were 2 Pz IV tanks undergoing maintenance and 3 halftracks belonging to the punishment section of the panzer regiment. So about 35 men. There is no evidence that any senior officer gave an order to shoot the prisoners. It was possibly just a spontaneous action.
@shortwalk8551
@shortwalk8551 11 месяцев назад
I tend to agree with this version of events, in no way defending any SS thug, as that’s what they were, it seems likely that some prisoners decided to give it a go and a trigger happy kraut fired the first shot and that was that, then to cover up for their crimes they had to ensure all were dead and went round the bodies with pistols. Either way the sentences handed out were paltry, we can only hope karma caught up with them and they had poor lives. As for Pieper himself, am not sure he was guilty of mass murder as he probably didn’t issue an order to kill the prisoners but having served previously on the eastern front he probably got his just deserves in Traves, no remorse for such filth. Don’t forget the Wereth 11, black US soldiers captured and horrifically tortured by SS very nearby where this action took place, RIP guys.
@frankvandergoes298
@frankvandergoes298 11 месяцев назад
@@shortwalk8551 From memory 74 American soldiers were shot and on trial were 72 former German soldiers. They were numbered alphabetically No1 was Valentin Bersin. He was a tank commander in 2nd company SS Pz rgt 1. His tank was disabled by a mine on December 16 and eas not repaired till December 18. So he was no where near the crossroads when the killing took place. Also on trial was Werner Sternbeck, he commanded the point platoon of 2 Pz IV which originally shot up the colum, and left the prisoners in the field before moving on to the next objective, he was also not present when the killing took place. Werner was sentenced to death, changed to life imprisonment was released in 1948 and later joined the West German army. Georg Preuss, was a company commander, refused to admit to any crimes, was subjected to 12 mock executions where at night he was taken from his cell to the gallows, had the noose put around his neck and at the last moment someone would come in and stop the execution, this kept on till he admitted to killing prisoners. On the other hand there are multiple documented cases of Allied soldiers killing German prisoners and no one cared.
@d.owczarzak6888
@d.owczarzak6888 11 месяцев назад
Peiper should have faced a firing squad.
@WW2Wayfinder
@WW2Wayfinder 11 месяцев назад
Couldn’t agree more
@petersclafani4370
@petersclafani4370 6 месяцев назад
My readings show why german soldiers did what they did. 1. The battle of the bulge was a fast moving attack. 2. German had no time to take prisoners. 3. There was no place to put them.
@jameswahnee-vn5nt
@jameswahnee-vn5nt 11 месяцев назад
I don't think any of them should be on trial. All is fair in love and war. No one was ever charged with the massacre of natives in America.
@sugarkane4830
@sugarkane4830 6 месяцев назад
What a ridicules statement.
@jameswahnee-vn5nt
@jameswahnee-vn5nt 6 месяцев назад
Spoken like a true Whiteman. You should go by candy ass instead of sugar.
@anyblunder6782
@anyblunder6782 6 месяцев назад
Our guide that took us there said that civilians and American soldiers alike heard of this massacre. Whomever was responsible for this crime didn’t do the Germans a favor. The Americans made sure that they didn’t surrender. The guide told a story about a young German soldier that took refuge in a farm with an old lady. He didn’t want to fight. This was in the German speaking part of Belgium. When the offensive had failed and the Americans came, he wanted to surrender to them. He was shot at point blank range in front of the old lady. These things happened. Some Americans weren’t taking prisoners either.
@dominic6634
@dominic6634 5 месяцев назад
Ironically the u.s was executing their prisoners too at chenogne
@woodenseagull1899
@woodenseagull1899 11 месяцев назад
Even today I could never forgive, or get close to a German...!
@krayzdrayz3489
@krayzdrayz3489 7 месяцев назад
Chenogne?any news?
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