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X-Lite Pro - Not Ready for your Fleet! 

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@Rich-TeaFPV
@Rich-TeaFPV 5 лет назад
I'll stick with flysky. Thanks Nick 👍👍👍👍
@vojtechvejsicky1819
@vojtechvejsicky1819 5 лет назад
Flysky ftw😀
@SmoothCruizer37
@SmoothCruizer37 5 лет назад
I'm waiting for a jumper version
@john_in_boston
@john_in_boston 3 года назад
I am no expert, nor am I a drone or FPV hobbyist -- I'm a fixed wing airplane guy -- but I just recently bought the later and slightly simplified, slightly lower price-point evolution of this transmitter, the X-Lite S. Works fine with my FrSky Rx4R receivers. Bought it recently from Aloft Hobby -- one really nice customer-oriented company -- and it is loaded with Open Tx v.2.3.0, dated 20th July 2019. ps Nice videos, Nick. I like your focused, cut-to-the-chase style.
@michaelfredricks2286
@michaelfredricks2286 5 лет назад
I'm hoping the pro gimbals become available. All I really want. Not interested in changing protocols.
@DAGODER
@DAGODER 5 лет назад
I agree 100% with your statements on the X9D. I hated it from day 1. To big and bulky, it never felt comfortable in my hands. Felt cheap and plastic. Love the small form factor of the -XLITE use it all the time. Thanks for all your great reviews! I will use the X-LITE until it stops working....
@norgtube
@norgtube 5 лет назад
Their new radios not talking D8/D16 is the most boneheaded thing ever. I hope the (lack of) sales gets a dose of reality back in their brains.
@TaaviTuisk
@TaaviTuisk 5 лет назад
D16 will be supported, D8 will be supported with an external XJT lite module. Give it time.
@alexestevez2007
@alexestevez2007 5 лет назад
El Modo D16 ya es compatible con el modulo interno, y el modulo externo crossfire ya es compatible tambn, hay que esperar las próximas actualizaciones para que lo sea con el modo D8
@pksteffen
@pksteffen 5 лет назад
Glad I didn't jump on this. No need for 24 channels and something that won't work with my current setups. WTH?
@moreluckthanjudgement8007
@moreluckthanjudgement8007 5 лет назад
Thanks for the heads-up, Nick. I'm keen to learn more but happy to wait until they sort out D8.
@frankbarajas
@frankbarajas 5 лет назад
It's here! And it sucks...? Talk about a misnomer...ACCESS protocol appears to be the opposite...? *Limiting access to operability and usage with existing equipment is not innovation to me.* FrSky, let's close the doors to innovation, circle the wagons and keep the renegades out, is that your plan? I was *Pro-FrSky* but not I am beginning to wonder if staying with an 'introverted" protocol developer is a good idea...
@AndyRCchannel
@AndyRCchannel 5 лет назад
as probably only one of the people who have used it. When they have ironed out the creases it is by far superior to the previous protocols. But as you say its weather they start to ramp up the price because of that. essentially you will have a 2.4 version of what crossfire can do as well as 900 and 868. you have to remember its not going to be limited to this TX. All frsky Tx's will have this eventually
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
@AndyRC Don't you think it will take years to force the majority to ACCESS, even then we have after market manufacturers that will likely keep making receivers for the old protocol if the market is there. I also wonder if we will see deviationtx jump in. Frsky seems to be funding Opentx to some degree, jumper could get behind deviationtx.
@TyroneDamShewlaces
@TyroneDamShewlaces 5 лет назад
I don't think it necessarily sucks. It's Frsky's common M.O. to release something quite a bit early before it's ready for prime-time. I'm not in the least surprised that they released it into the wild well before they've worked out bugs and backwards compatibility. The normal problem is their new releases aren't in stock anywhere for a few months before you can actually get one. Give them time and it'll improve. I'd think that a stable low-latency protocol will easily be worth the time required to load firmware into receivers. Otherwise, the stock original X-Lite is pretty much the same TX for less money and works a treat. Compared to everything else, it already fits my needs nearly perfectly and the Pro just adds features & upgrades I A) don't need anyway but B) glad they are (or will be) available if I feel like I want it.
@AndyRCchannel
@AndyRCchannel 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV I guess only opentx can answer that. It needs to have all the functions it says it does before people will make the switch. But lets just say they start shipping frsky receivers with the access firmware pre installed. It can do both EU and FCC without flashing different firmware to it. If jumper stays with the old protocols then it would be an inconvenience flashing the old firmware back. Seen as openTX is open though I would imagine jumper can also make use of this access protocol as its open source? im not sure how that works? I can see openTX becoming closed source if thats the case.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 5 лет назад
Great and honest review, Nick! 😊 The only news is that they now have the firmware for the R-XSR. But that's it. 😕
@Eurisko1975
@Eurisko1975 5 лет назад
Great review as usual Nick. Thanks
@andytaylor3321
@andytaylor3321 3 года назад
i sould have watched this twoweeks ago would have saved tonnes of dough great vid again man
@jdd53
@jdd53 5 лет назад
Thanks Nick! Shameful action from FrSky. Love my standard X-Lite, except the entire silk coating has peeled off.
@FlyingFun.
@FlyingFun. 5 лет назад
100% needs to be backwards compatible with d8 on internal module before I buy it.
@1956willys4x4
@1956willys4x4 5 лет назад
Wow I didn't know this and I was waiting for this tx. I think Frsky is shooting themselves in the foot on this one. Thanks for the video.
@TWERKMAGIC_OG
@TWERKMAGIC_OG 5 лет назад
Good looking out,i legit just pre ordered mine a few days ago
@MrJob91
@MrJob91 5 лет назад
Why...its worse compared to flysky
@DAGODER
@DAGODER 5 лет назад
I hear you on the Taranis 9D. I came from Spektrum (planes) and bought Taranis 9D for Quads. Hated from day one, never felt comfortable using it. Then went to QX7 it was much better. But the X-Lite has made me retire the Taranis 9D and QX7 which was barely used. Your reviews are the best. I watch you first, then Kabab :)
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
Thank you. We must have a similar "hand footprint".
@denniskatinas
@denniskatinas 5 лет назад
Ill buy it, I like that I don’t have to look through an infinite list of receivers anymore to start with this hobby. For beginners, this simplifies a lot, and thats what this hobby needs, newbees having a waaay to hard time getting into this hobby in a reasonable timeframe. So, having to buy everything yet, Ill go with this transmitter.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
That is a big benefit of the future.
@donphobos
@donphobos 3 года назад
Interesting radio. I am flying on a QX7 Taranis and have fairly large hands. I haven't found a really comfortable flying posture on the QX7 yet. I am pinching mostly, but I tend to move my hand "around" on the radio, since it is not really comfortable for me. I haven't flown much, until recently I have only had a few batteries, so flight times were limited. Now I have built a toothpick and have 10 batteries, so I can fly more. Also started to use simulator, which can extend flight times. I have a 5" and a 3" on an older D4R-II FrSky RX, those are not going to have ACCESS compatibility. In my 2,5" and the toothpick I have XM+ receivers. Those can be updated to ACCESS later on. I have been looking into reviews of TBS Tango 2 and like the form factor of that one, as well. But I am not sure if I need the bells and whistles of the Crossfire system, since I am so rubbish as a pilot. It theory I could use the Crossfire Nano RX probably, but I would really need to motivate the cost of switching over. I have just bought an Emax TinyHawk II for my birthday, that goes on D8, need to see whether it can use an external RX eventually. My QX7 is holding up nicely so far, so I am not in the imminent need of getting a new transmitter. Plan to "use up" the QX7 first and learn to fly better before I look into a new radio.
@MrBirdshell666
@MrBirdshell666 5 лет назад
i cant use these big transmitters like q7/x9 and achieve full stick movement for pinching. x-lite has been my only option. of course, i had to lengthen the sticks
@electroddxful
@electroddxful 5 лет назад
Great review. Really appreciate it. 👍👍👍👍👍
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 5 лет назад
If my x-lite supported 18650s natively and you could charge them internally, it would be nearly perfect. But I still see no point in getting this.
@michaelmatthews6421
@michaelmatthews6421 5 лет назад
I applaud FrSky for making new codes but still not sure if it is worth the backlash they are gonna get for locking out others modules, receivers etc
@fpvnme4845
@fpvnme4845 5 лет назад
I feel gutted .. I love my x-lite .. ah well .. its still doing me as good as day one when I got it .. nice review also nice n cool man
@coreirefpv
@coreirefpv 5 лет назад
I had the same issue with the throttle gimbal getting rough/sticky on the original x-lite. I opened it and found that they had put the tension bar in backwards on mine. There's a smooth/chamfered side and a rough unfinished side to it and the rough side had been put against the throttle. Flipped it over and it was perfect.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I will have to check it out. I find it weird mine got more sticky when it was cold out. But worth a look as I will have to open it to lube it anyways.
@coreirefpv
@coreirefpv 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV I found that mine got more sticky with use. If let it sit there for 20mins it felt free but halfway through a race after a bit of movement it would tighten up and feel very rough. I'm assuming from the friction. BTW I also polished the plastic curve on the back of the gimbal with a dremel and some jewellers polish because the tension bar had scored it.
@SuperBradley79
@SuperBradley79 5 лет назад
I'll stick with the QX7 for now. I've proper sized hands so I don't need a tiny radio. And this knee jerk reaction from Frsky to the pressure from Jumper is crazy! Nothing wrong with the existing protocol. As my nan always said "if it ain't broken........" If anything goes wrong with my QX7 I'll be saying hello to Jumper.
@denihei
@denihei 5 лет назад
I've tried x9d, x-lite, q x7,,but i ended on Turnigy Evolution cause i thumb and feel comfortable on Turnigy
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
ah, yes, that is one I have not tried, and I am not sure why I never did. Similar in design to the x-lites.
@JaySDunham
@JaySDunham 4 года назад
Do you use your pro model with a multi protocol module? If so, which one did you choose?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 4 года назад
I don't. The pro model is currently stuck in EU mode. I need to send it to frsky repair to get that resolved.
@JermieMarasigan
@JermieMarasigan 5 лет назад
Hi Nick, what version of firmware do you use on your original x-lite that works with your irange module? My irange does not work with 2.2.3. Can you tell me how did you upgrade your firmware. Thanks
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I am running 2.2.2 from 6-21-2018
@bgill2708
@bgill2708 5 лет назад
Is there any update on whether these can talk to older receivers? I have a few S6R...
@bgill2708
@bgill2708 5 лет назад
Or even External modules like Crossfire?
@angelfpv4825
@angelfpv4825 5 лет назад
i have the basic x lite i also have the 18650 caps and they also dont fit as nice as the 18500 caps
@tonymorgan328
@tonymorgan328 3 года назад
Me too and you are absolutely correct about the caps. A real pita.
@TyroneDamShewlaces
@TyroneDamShewlaces 5 лет назад
Hey Nick. It looked like the cap for the 18500 on that early model you have fit at the same "off angle" as the 18650 cap. I'd hope and pretty much expect they tweak as they go so fit & finish is better. Just my vote on the battery - I don't mind the 18500 at all as it's just a battery, they aren't hard to find or any more expensive, unless you vape you aren't a whole lot more likely to have a bunch of 18650's lying around already anyway, and I prefer the feel and look of the radio with the smaller size caps anyway. In my view, the 18650 caps are a bit of a crutch for folks who may already have batteries lying around, but it was designed with 18500 in mind and adapters make it a smidge hacky comparatively IMO. If capacity is an issue for some pilots, then simply buying another pair of 18500 is a perfectly reasonable solution.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
yea, I think those that vape or use 18650s in the fatshark battery might have a bunch and want to use the. I am like you, I bought the batteries I needed and I am fine with that.
@Terry12345
@Terry12345 5 лет назад
The color scheme looks so much better than the original and that you can USB charge is wonderful. The new gimbel sound like a winner (I hope they offer those as an upgrade) the rest of it as it stands is a deal breaker. I'm not putting a module in to run D8 mode and have too many that run on D8 too consider switching. I like frsky but it seems they've made some bad choices as of late. Hopefully they'll be a Xlite pro V2 version in the near future.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I am on the lookout for those gimbals as well. I don't mind swapping out batteries as long as I can fly the quads I have. The lack of compatibility is really surprising.
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer 5 лет назад
Very honest as always. Even thouh you risk frsky may be pettish. Btw whats your FPV clock mount on your X9D. Couln't find it o thingiverse
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I believe its this one www.thingiverse.com/thing:2757777 search gteng many results.
@housinit
@housinit 5 лет назад
I'm almost starting to feel like I may have bought my last FRSKY product, especially if they keep going down the road they are. I mean, I love my X9D and my X-Lite, but with this situation with the D8 receivers and the situation they are starting with Jumper, it really makes me not want to give Frsky anymore of my money. Thanks for the upload Nick!
@denniskatinas
@denniskatinas 5 лет назад
I was pointed out that the whole jumber story wasnt verified for being real... misinformation is a real thing.
@aerialhorizonrc7827
@aerialhorizonrc7827 5 лет назад
Luis Hurtado we need to get confirmation that it came from Frsky. Any fool can send a threatening letter to vender without a trace or source.
@stephenborunda547
@stephenborunda547 5 лет назад
do you think we could purchase the gimbals and put them in the original X-lite?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I hope so. I haven't seen them on sale yet. :(
@JuanRodriguezArchitect
@JuanRodriguezArchitect 5 лет назад
Nick does it support the Vantec MPM receiver they sell on Amazon? That this does all 4 RF transmission protocols. If it supports that then boom your got D8.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I am not sure at this time. They state it "will" but does not at that time I published this video.
@FabioEhr
@FabioEhr 5 лет назад
Yes it is working with the latest OpenTX nightly build
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
Thank you. Not to question, but you have the x-lite pro and a mpm confirmed working on?
@boratsagdiyev1586
@boratsagdiyev1586 5 лет назад
Hej Nick i want to upgrade from Flysky, i only have 2 quads so receiver compatibility isnt an issue for me. What would be the best X-lite version regardless of money?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
with that, I would go x-lite pro in this video. The gimbals should stay nice and smooth, the firmware has been developing rapidly and I find it the most comfortable radio I have used. I pinch, I have not spent more than a moment trying to fly thumbing, I am way out of practice thumbing....I am terrible at it now, I would suspect it be just as comfortable thumbing.
@boratsagdiyev1586
@boratsagdiyev1586 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV Ah thanks, i am a pincher only with throttle so i guess that helps, would i see some improvement over flysky without an additional module tho? I'm using fli14+ but im not impressed with this "full range receiver"
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
Its hard to be definitive, it would very much give you more options for receivers, range would depend on the receivers being used vs used in the future with frsky. I don't have a lot of experience with flysky, from what I have heard they work fine or at least okay. If we want extreme range nothing beats crossfire from tbs, we have to add a module to our radio and use crossfire receivers to accomplish this range.
@boratsagdiyev1586
@boratsagdiyev1586 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV nice, seems like TBS is my future then. The Frsky regions and d-modes flashing firmwares etc. is too much for my autism so i will keep saving up for that. The micro TX seems more than i can handle and its only 70 bucks. Thanks man!
@RockFPV
@RockFPV 5 лет назад
Ordered this some time ago together with an R9Mini set. At least I have my still fine original lite. A shame the „Pro“ has to stay in the basement. I somehow understand why Frsky is going for an encrypted protocol to keep out clones. At the time ordering, I could not see that it is not backwards compatible. Worst buy this year so far. I hope it will get usable somehow without being forced to access.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
An additional disappointment is the time needed to upgrade the firmware on both radios and receivers, when all that becomes available if it does.
@paigashaona2331
@paigashaona2331 5 лет назад
ACCESS protocol is correct. ACCST is the old/current one.
@J.D.Vision
@J.D.Vision 5 лет назад
I'm new to the FPV game... Should I buy an Frsky X-Lite, Flysky Nirvana, or Jumper T-16? I'm a thumber, and I'm in this for the long run... Thinking of getting the Sailfly, tinyhawk, among some other quads.
@businessmail4929
@businessmail4929 5 лет назад
I think the Jumper is supposed to be very good since it's a cheaper version and has everything what a frsky (idk what model name) has. I'm in no way in the hobby yet but I do prefer the controller-ish transmitters rather than the big transmitters. if u found out what's best for your tiny hawk let me know! Will be getting one at the end of this year probably
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
@J.D.Vision at this time I would go with a jumper radio. There are several to choose from the form fit a features are the decision points.
@denniskatinas
@denniskatinas 5 лет назад
J.D. Vision I’m also new, I was wondering the same thing, but since you have no receivers yet, you can just go with this pro model, buy a compatible receivers, and you good to go with the latest protocols. Good luck with your choice, I don’t know about you, but making a choice with all the fc’s, esc’s, pdb’s, motors, etc, it hard if you want it perfect.
@jovid7
@jovid7 5 лет назад
My x-lite speaker went out and the internal antenna doesn't work. So I pre-ordered this "upgrade" before they said it wasn't backwards compatible. Now I'm stuck with a $200 transmitter collecting dust.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
maybe see if your original can be repaired?
@jovid7
@jovid7 5 лет назад
Yeah I bought the replacement speaker but the x-lite is all plastic snap together and the speaker is at the front behind all the circuit board . Major pain to fix. It's my primary like you and I don't want to risk it. For now I'm just using an external antenna and relying on the vibrations warning for low rrsi.
@mrb2917
@mrb2917 5 лет назад
I always thought the gyro controls on this would be awesome for controlling a camera servo on something like a shendrones geyser or a pan tilt camera servo on an RC rock crawler that's equipped with an FPV cam.
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 5 лет назад
Rock crawler yes, but I get motion sickness just thinking about the gimbal/gyro interface on a quad, lol.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
ah yes, I think there are some creative possibilities. Likely not something I would try :)
@jeremychotto2688
@jeremychotto2688 5 лет назад
Don't like what they are doing with this new protocol and don't see why anyone would buy this.
@d3c0deFPV
@d3c0deFPV 5 лет назад
They're backing themselves into a corner. They think it's going to lock us into their products, but in reality it's giving us a reason to avoid them. We have other good options now, Frsky! Chill out or we're going to ditch you. Quit designing your stuff so that it's hard to use with other gear, or we'll just use other options that play nicely.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 5 лет назад
@@d3c0deFPV Absolutely. Agreed. 😊
@TyroneDamShewlaces
@TyroneDamShewlaces 5 лет назад
There might be details about their new protocol which cause problems besides not being very well-supported at this time (I don't know either way). But I think a major reason for the new protocol is to compete with low-latency systems that do exist, which incidentally are not Frsky's original protocol either. You can complain about not being compatible with the previous so far, but it's hard to complain about them significantly reducing latency. I am like most pilots and don't notice a latency problem in the first place. Eventually they will very likely work it out so compatibility is not a big problem, and since I don't have issues anyway I simply won't be an early adopter. Just give it some time and things should get much better. I consider this new release nothing more than a preview of new features down the road. Wait it out. Hell, I been waiting for two years for OpenTX to address the goofy, annoying power-off delay. A few months wait for Frsky to work out bugs and improve firmware is no big deal.
@renzevenir4853
@renzevenir4853 5 лет назад
When Flysky release 3 different generations of afhds within 10 years that are not compatible with each other, no one bats an eye. When Spektrum release 3 different generations of dsm series protocol, no one gives a shit but when Frsky is about to replace a 10 years old protocol with a new one that has less latency and ota rx update and yet still let you use your existing x series rxs by fw update (none of the mentioned protocol above let you use new protocol with old hardware), people start conspiracy theory and immediately against it without any further knowledge. What kind of double standard is this??? I hate it when people say shits they don't even understand well, pretty much how every conspiracy theory starts.
@neojeets
@neojeets 5 лет назад
@@d3c0deFPV Yep, pretty much. Shame, as I like the design of the X-lite line.
@woj1999
@woj1999 5 лет назад
This is very odd they put up a new transmiter and instead of adding features to existing they produce something that is not backward compatible with D8 and D16 basicaly unusable without serious updates and cash? Making new Access protocol seems in general to be a well thought idea to finaly solve some of the issues like binding etc. but why not expand but to replace?
@alexestevez2007
@alexestevez2007 5 лет назад
El Modo D16 ya es compatible con el modulo interno sin necesidad de actualizar firmware, y el modulo externo crossfire ya es compatible tambn, hay que esperar las próximas actualizaciones para que lo sea con el modo D8
@angelfpv4825
@angelfpv4825 5 лет назад
Does the xm+ have longer range with d8?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
No. The xm+ has longer range than the xm and has diversity, which should give stronger rc link in my orientations.
@angelfpv4825
@angelfpv4825 5 лет назад
love my xm+ i went 800+meters no problem
@jandomingo9806
@jandomingo9806 5 лет назад
Frsky is rushing i think, to release a tx and its rx arent all available. Very silly. Probably panicking from Jumper.
@thijss1272
@thijss1272 5 лет назад
Well frsky did this to battle the t16.. well let me tell you, you will love the t16 more😉
@dronereviewman9580
@dronereviewman9580 5 лет назад
I LOVE MY QX-7 AND WANT A XD-9!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
you have big hands or long fingers? I think my "stocky" fingers find smaller radios more comfortable.
@TheEviling
@TheEviling 5 лет назад
I thought ACCESS was a pure software solution. Is there hardware inside that makes it not compatible with older recievers?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I think there is a bit of a radio change to incorporate the "features" of ACCESS.
@gsf1200s
@gsf1200s 5 лет назад
Fully compatible with older tx/rx's according to Frsky. Just need a firmware update.
@offgridgaminguk
@offgridgaminguk 5 лет назад
What we really need is for Jumper to come out with a radio that supports all protocols, including somewhere to install a crossfire module so no swapping is required. FrSky have released this product with no actual thought on how people are going to use it. No one is going to want to replace their receivers just to use it, and certainly won't want to install a external receiver on their tiny whoops/micros that use AIO boards in D8/D16 mode.
@alexestevez2007
@alexestevez2007 5 лет назад
El Modo D16 ya es compatible con el modulo interno, y el modulo externo crossfire ya es compatible tambn, hay que esperar las próximas actualizaciones para que lo sea con el modo D8
@aerialhorizonrc7827
@aerialhorizonrc7827 5 лет назад
XM firmware was release yesterday. Hopefully they release XM Plus firmware next.
@alexestevez2007
@alexestevez2007 5 лет назад
El Modo D16 ya es compatible con el modulo interno sin necesidad de actualizar firmware, y el modulo externo crossfire ya es compatible tambn, hay que esperar las próximas actualizaciones para que lo sea con el modo D8
@DumbThumbsFPV
@DumbThumbsFPV 5 лет назад
hmm Jumper doesn't need this LOL so hopefully they will come out with a game style controller.. Oh well I'll just skip out on this and any future products from FRSKY.. makes me wonder what the future of Eachine and what not are going to do in the future.
@grahamjw75
@grahamjw75 5 лет назад
I fell in love with the X-Lite and was flipping out when they announced the X-Lite PRO but when the buzz about this new weird protocol came out with encryptian and the ability to use 24 channels...."24 channels!!!!" why!?? came out I was so bummed out, I wont touch this thing with a ten foot pole unless they make it backwards compatible that is just BS
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
me to. The 24 channel thing I thought was just playing a marketing game. What in the world in RC would need all those channels.
@grahamjw75
@grahamjw75 5 лет назад
Nick Burns it almost has to be a marketing gimmick, did you see all the stuff about the stick encryption? I mean come on! Lol
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I recalling reading something, but didn't get into the details I was on the compatibility trail.
@wisdirty
@wisdirty 5 лет назад
That sucks I was looking into getting one. My reason for buying one is only because it's blue lol. I have an x lite but I hate the color red....
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I did like that is was blue, I would have chosen a different hue, but getting there. I wish jumper would make this style of radio.
@NicuIrimia
@NicuIrimia 4 года назад
any good news on this?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 4 года назад
Not to my knowledge, still no native d8 mode. We have to use an external module to use d8 binding. d16 does work.
@WillThat
@WillThat 5 лет назад
I understand the argument against ACCESS and the X-lite Pro, but if you're getting a MPM for DSMX anyways, does it not matter if it excludes the legacy protocols? I think this ACCESS situation will really suck for people not looking to buy a new radio anytime soon. I bet Frsky will start shipping receivers exclusively with ACCESS, even current models "upgraded" to ACCESS. You think they'll come out with an ACCESS module for existing radios? I doubt it.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I wouldn't expect many to need dsm/2 if they have a fleet. I would expect many to need d8, d16 compatibility. This is where I see the majority will have issues. Especially if one like micro quads, we use the smallest lightest receivers....generally.
@licensetodrive9930
@licensetodrive9930 5 лет назад
Given what I've read/seen of this transmitter, I think the Pro part of the name is short for Problems Potentially.
@johncarold
@johncarold 5 лет назад
Hi Nick, Thanks for the information on the new X-lite, but to me I won't be getting it. I have the original from last year and I still use it everytime I go out, I have the Realacc X-lite bag and I can snap on a quad and a number of batteries and go out flying. I don't think I would use half of the stuff this new radio will do. especially when it comes to that gyro, tilt to fly. Sounds like a cheap radio. And who would send out a new Radio if you can't even use it. PASS ON IT. Thanks again for your review.
@Sully365
@Sully365 5 лет назад
This is why i an glad i went with flysky
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
do you have the nirvana? I have wanted to see if that one was suitable for me.
@Sully365
@Sully365 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV it's on my todo.
@DMarko22
@DMarko22 5 лет назад
Ha, I thought that kind of Radio isn't suited for pinchers. Nice you noticed that.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
yes, when the x-lite came out I suspect many thumbers thinking it wasn't suitable for pinching. Pinchers should evaluate if its pinch-able.
@nerdCopter
@nerdCopter 5 лет назад
+1👍 Thanks Nick!
@nerdCopter
@nerdCopter 5 лет назад
not a single comment about _lube_ for all that _pumpin'_ , seriously, i can't be the only one right?!?! lamao
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
lol, yep your the only one.
@CaptainSloose
@CaptainSloose 5 лет назад
Wowwww frsky. First the nonsense with the jumper and now this garbage. Thanks nick!
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 5 лет назад
On top of everything else, it looks very cheap to me. That battery cover not being flush on one side is complete crap. Not even going to bother watching another video on this TX, no thanks. But thank you Nick for the review, appreciate it.
@blackforestfpv3046
@blackforestfpv3046 5 лет назад
haha... i used to have quite a good opinion about FrSky, but the things they pull off right now are really pushing me away. This is all obviously profit orientated not consumer friendly. Really happy to be within the transition to CRSF :D
@Irigoyen4
@Irigoyen4 5 лет назад
I am having difficulty with FrSky’s treatment of Jumper’s new radio. I wish gaming companies would sue FrSky for the infringement on their controller designs....or FrSky could acknowledge that they are the same as anyone else and being FrSky should not allow you to threaten companies with anti-trust lawsuits and to undermine your competition’s products. This only results in giving FrSky a monopoly based on stolen ideas and any innovation by others will either be super expensive, or never released for fear of being sued or driven out of business because FrSky can influence major vendors. Just like FrSky threatened Banggood about the new Jumper radio recently as mentioned above. I have always been a bit sceptical about FrSky in any case, mostly because they make products that are fine, but a much higher price than competitors in some areas which leads me to believe their pricing is somewhat predatory, not necessarily based on the features or manufacturing costs of the item being sold. Just my opinion of course. Thanks again for the content!
@RCinginSC
@RCinginSC 5 лет назад
Word on the street is that you can flash the X series rx's to the new protocol. Can you confirm that?
@theronin48
@theronin48 5 лет назад
R-xsr has access firmware for download. BUT once you flash you can't go back due to bootloader change. Batch 2 firmwares include XM+ due out by June. not a fanboi here just someone with a $199 cool frsky paper weight.
@RCinginSC
@RCinginSC 5 лет назад
@@theronin48 thanks for the info. I will prob stick with my qx7 but it's good to know these things.
@RCinginSC
@RCinginSC 5 лет назад
@@theronin48 ..I would assume that you can still use the R9M module and the new protocol is pointless. Still get the benefit of the updated features of the X lite pro.
@theronin48
@theronin48 5 лет назад
@@RCinginSC actually I don't think you can use R9 module and that us batch 3 no eta ... don't hold me to that though.
@AndyRCchannel
@AndyRCchannel 5 лет назад
@@theronin48 rolled mine back no issues. Had to do it a few times for my vid
@daFexKM
@daFexKM 5 лет назад
What about the X-Lite S? Same Problem?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
yea, for now
@larsmartintangen7072
@larsmartintangen7072 5 лет назад
Frsky makes an noob move in the war against jumper 🤣🤣
@Tump2010
@Tump2010 5 лет назад
I like the color and the charging capabilities but I like my current x-lite. The main problem is (and I know you don't get into politics) is the games that frsky is playing right now, breaks my heart, Bardwell and RCModel reviews has a video about the games that they are playing and why they are doing the new protocol, it is quite disappointing.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I did see those videos. I am curious if the folks in other RC areas seeing things the same way?
@dronedoutrc5970
@dronedoutrc5970 5 лет назад
Nick the guys on RCGroups are legit and great to chat with. You can speak to OpenTx Devs as well as the Frsky reps. The RXSR is now working with an update that switches it over to Access. I really like the ergonomics of the Xlite form factor so the pro is on my list. The r9m lite pro needs to drop soon. That is the only thing holding me up.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
Thank you. I really hope they bring this around. I really like the ergonomics, by far. The thread on RCG is crazy busy. After reading through a good portion of the pages I was exhausted. :)
@ledchickenfpv7164
@ledchickenfpv7164 5 лет назад
If you can't stand your x9d, I'd be glad to help you out and take it off your hands. 😉 I'd hate for your shop area to get all cluttered, especially with gear you hate! Lol. I'm a little jealous too! I really wanted the carbon fiber look, but couldn't male it happen. Tell you what... Killl the thing you hate and just send me the housing of the x9r including the little watch/monitor, and you won't have to look at it any more. How do you feel about Frsky being a bully about the Jumper T16/ Horus x10 issue? I'm boycotting Frsky because &%$ you, Bullies! But I'll gladly keep using pre-loved(or hated) equipment with third party receivers. Also, one of the Frsky blurbs about "access" stated it's backward compatible...how and with what? If it doesn't work with the older accst receivers, maybe we need to explain what "backward compatibility" means to our Chinese friends?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I am not a fan of using technology to lock in customers, but it is a normal practice in my day-to-day job. I would like to think this hobby wouldn't go that route, but what I also think is the Chinese market has an ability to reverse engineer, that could prove to allow jumper or another brand to jump into not only the gap, but also the new protocol.
@ledchickenfpv7164
@ledchickenfpv7164 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV from what I understand(JB video I think), the new protocol is encrypted. Apparently that doesn't make reverse engineering impossible, but it takes more time. It will be interesting to see how long it takes before we see the first third party Access RX.
@thrasher4219
@thrasher4219 5 лет назад
XD my girlfriend limits me to five drones. I wish I could have a fleet...
@JosephDawson
@JosephDawson 5 лет назад
I can see many new folks just going out and getting the PRO assuming it can do everything the standard radio can do and much more. Frsky has made a big mistake by not having this thing working with all existing equipment off the start.
@denniskatinas
@denniskatinas 5 лет назад
As a beginner, I’m about to buy my first equipment, I don’t mind not having to go through all of their receivers, its hard enough getting started.
@friendlyfire01
@friendlyfire01 5 лет назад
Tisk tisk, frsky... And where the fuck are my r9 receivers??? Everyone I buy from is out of stock
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
ouch.
@friendlyfire01
@friendlyfire01 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV Lol great vigeo by the way Nick! I'm obviously ticked off with Frsky lately XD
@LPORT
@LPORT 5 лет назад
Seems like a big hassle.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
for now yes. I hope to see frsky come around to what consumers want/need, slow sales might bring them around.
@DAGODER
@DAGODER 5 лет назад
What a marketing mistake. They need to send Engineering Models to guys like yourself for feedback. In a digital world, all these protocols can be placed in the unit. Why limit your market? That was a dumb move by them.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
I sure hope their new radio evolve into a much more friendly product.
@AndyRCchannel
@AndyRCchannel 5 лет назад
d8 is an illegal protocol (Edit) to sell in the EU so they have had to remove it. They are then leaving it to the user if they chose to use it via a module. This will be the case when they update all the other frsky transmitters to ACCESS
@frankbarajas
@frankbarajas 5 лет назад
D8 is not an illegal protocol, it's illegal to sell it in the European Union is my understanding. But it's not illegal to use it or are the U.K. reviewers breaking the law? I don't think so.
@AndyRCchannel
@AndyRCchannel 5 лет назад
@@frankbarajas Yes Illegal to sell I should clarify. Makes you wonder though why not include it with the FCC version though? perhaps easier coding or they know something we dont ;)
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
@AndyRC thank you for the additional information. I started watching your vid, wow you really dove in...55mins. At this point I am going shopping for new gimbals and staying with my first edition x-lite. I love that thing.
@AndyRCchannel
@AndyRCchannel 5 лет назад
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks luckily I found a way haha
@jensonphil7350
@jensonphil7350 5 лет назад
Frsky selling this product without a sense of responsibility
@Clif_Brown
@Clif_Brown 5 лет назад
We could all just fly Crossfire 😁
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 лет назад
$$
@rogueFactor
@rogueFactor 5 лет назад
Money Grab.
@jayward7536
@jayward7536 5 лет назад
Waste of money
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