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X-MEN 97 | How Long Before It All Comes Crashing Down? 

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@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Wouldn't it be bonkers if Fake!Jean replaced Real!Jean before her wedding in season 4 of X-MEN TAS, so her and Scott would have to get married a THIRD time? lmao
@anthonysmith3415
@anthonysmith3415 3 месяца назад
looking forward to what you think of this week's travesty of an episode was, at the very least we can be sure the love triangle is finally over after this episode
@SupDave
@SupDave 4 месяца назад
Heroic act of not murdering anyone at his own trial LOL
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 месяца назад
It’s kinda like the in school when the bad kid in class gets rewarded with candy or something for not acting like a disruptive jackass even though that should be the normal behavior in the classroom.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 4 месяца назад
​​​@@Nightman221k When I used to train in Karate, I became an assistant instructor and the two worst kids in the kids class, around 12 yrs old, were the Sensei's favorite students lol. Even the more talented kids who were straight laced he just found boring and would kinda ignore. Really annoyed me because these two kids who were brothers were a royal pain in the ass 😂 I would discipline them as much as I could while he would just let them run wild. Nothing seemed to work. Even wacked em a few times with the kendo stick 😂 I think the Sensei likes them because he saw a bit of himself in them as he wasn't a good guy himself. This Sensei once purposely drove his sports car in a puddle making a turn to splash an old lady. But he also one time visited a neighbors house and headbutted his son in the face because the son would speed up and down the block in his car in front of his three kids. Dunno how he didn't get arrested for that lol. One time I even had the entire class spar them for an hour. A whole hour nonstop. They actually ended up being very good because of all this they had stamina better than most professional fighters and would clean up at the competitions 😂
@LukeMidnight1
@LukeMidnight1 4 месяца назад
I'm so glad someone brought this up. It's fucking insane how the guy praises himself for not lashing out and killing everyone. He clearly thinks it would be entirely justified, and he not doing it should be seen as some unbeliavable feat of restrain and fortitude on his part. And I think the show agrees with him.
@tino9117
@tino9117 4 месяца назад
​@@LukeMidnight1 y'all don't even get the importance is not about him being praised for doing something heroic but showing he still has restraint, it's about gaining trust Wtf
@yagamifire7861
@yagamifire7861 4 месяца назад
​@tino9117 trust would be earned by paying for his numerous crimes. The cartoon first has Magneto trying to nuke America...and then ends with Magneto trying to wipe out the timeline... His trial defense of "yes but look I can go 10 minutes without beating my wife even when I'm slightly perturbed" on a global scale rings hollow
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 4 месяца назад
as for Magneto, im 97% sure he's working an angle. I dont think there is a love triangle going on. Gambit is investigating Magneto. He calls out BS on him twice, is stalking him in the office. Gambit is being the Damien Darkblood of the show. Investigating everything.
@cooperhawk6716
@cooperhawk6716 4 месяца назад
He could be, but if they go by the comics, then he is not
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
@AzguardMike Man, I really hope you're right. Magneto is coming off so shifty and smug, it just doesn't make sense to me that he's meant to be genuine. Everything just fell perfectly into place for him so quickly and so conveniently that, if there isn't SOMETHING screwy going on here, I truly don't know what the writers are thinking.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
@cooperhawk6716 In the comics, he just reverted to his old ways, which is why Rogue ended things between them.
@cooperhawk6716
@cooperhawk6716 4 месяца назад
@thoriasunlimited4053 Yeah, but it takes a few years. What I'm saying is there may not be a secret plan he may become evil again, but it will be after the humans do something genocideal. Aslo TAS has already done a Asteroid M and Moria did not mess with his mind in this one
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 4 месяца назад
​@thoriasunlimited4053 Maybe find a new hobby instead of ruining our enjoyment of Marvel's products, hey? People older than 35 shouldn't be moaning about Marvel, you should be picking up your kids from school and reading the business report.
@paballomolata8844
@paballomolata8844 4 месяца назад
Bad news Velma season 2 is airing soon
@aspiringjoker2883
@aspiringjoker2883 4 месяца назад
I thought it was canceled
@paballomolata8844
@paballomolata8844 4 месяца назад
@@aspiringjoker2883 Nope
@latviandragon2718
@latviandragon2718 4 месяца назад
when?
@paballomolata8844
@paballomolata8844 4 месяца назад
@@latviandragon2718 Later this month or early next month
@ccateni28
@ccateni28 4 месяца назад
Knuckles comes out the same week. I say let Velma get forgotten while everyone talks about the Kunckles show.
@azariahgarcia8958
@azariahgarcia8958 4 месяца назад
I’ve never understood why they pushed to make magneto a silver fox ladies man in the comics. Any way you spin it, he’s an OLD man. It’s not like Logan, where he’s at least stopped aging physically at middle age. Sure that’s going to always be addressed, but on the surface, it looks LESS creepy
@Aequitas_RJ
@Aequitas_RJ 4 месяца назад
Magneto's been subjected to SOOO MANY "de-aging rays" and put into MULTIPLE CLONE BODIES in the comics, his true age is... well 96, but his physical age is basically however young the writers want to keep him.
@azariahgarcia8958
@azariahgarcia8958 4 месяца назад
@@Aequitas_RJ makes sense, but the one thing we’re always reminded about him is that he’s a holicust survivor and friends with Xavier.. we’re ALWAYS reminded that he is an old man
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 месяца назад
In the cartoon they could skirt around this easier than the comics. In the 90s cartoon they weren’t allowed to use words like holocaust, Nazi, and Jewish because of the BSnP not allowing it. Saying Magneto suffered this all in a fictional marvel verse parallel to the war would service things more in a timeless way.
@theplaguegamer6216
@theplaguegamer6216 4 месяца назад
​@@Nightman221k I will always be surprised at the irony of a genocidal maniac being a holocaust survivor .
@toddholland7511
@toddholland7511 4 месяца назад
Magneto isn’t as old physically as he is either. Magneto was deaged to infancy by his creation Mutant Alpha. They even mention it in the book this episode is based on.(X-Men #200) He is silver haired like Quicksilver.
@1ChristFollowingNerd
@1ChristFollowingNerd 4 месяца назад
Rogue & Magneto had a romantic relationship during the Age of Apocalypse that happened after Xavier’s son David aka Legion goes back in time to kill Magneto & accidentally kills Xavier. It made sense in that alternative reality because Rogue seemed far closer in age to Magneto.
@dysvanlist
@dysvanlist 4 месяца назад
Exactly, it's weird they put a romance from a different story into it.
@jodeci9898
@jodeci9898 4 месяца назад
Rogue and Magento's romantic relationship was debut back in Uncanny Xmen 1991, where Rogue followed Magneto to the Savage Land.
@dontemorgan1517
@dontemorgan1517 4 месяца назад
But still in the show, there is no connection between Rogue and Magneto in the show. Although, X-Men tas had continuity errors before Angel/Archangel for example as he originally wasn't part of the X-Men until they retcon him as one of the founding members of the team and the rest of them just forgotten he was an X-Men.
@Xagroth
@Xagroth 4 месяца назад
The point of Age of Apoc was how WRONG things went... at all levels...
@marvelprince
@marvelprince 4 месяца назад
@@dontemorgan1517she was established to have worked with the brotherhood of mutants prior in the show so their history is canon
@RuneAnimations22
@RuneAnimations22 4 месяца назад
This is one of those case scenarios I always say “just because it happens in the comics does not mean it’s good at all.” This is one of those instances. Whoever wrote the Rogue and Magneto shit was not cooking.
@HonkaiMain
@HonkaiMain 4 месяца назад
That some Trailblazer cooking right there.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 4 месяца назад
​@@HonkaiMainaaaaand you said Trailblazer. That triggered my thankfully canceled but still cringe inducing New New Warriors PTSD 😂
@HonkaiMain
@HonkaiMain 4 месяца назад
@budgiecat9039 Oh shit, I forgot about her. I was actually referencing another, much more likable character.
@ScooterBond1970
@ScooterBond1970 4 месяца назад
Must be tryna draw in the "minor attracted person" crowd.
@cecillbill
@cecillbill 4 месяца назад
They also had a kid they named Charles...😂
@starhawke380
@starhawke380 4 месяца назад
On the plus side, the chances of Batwoman showing up in the show are pretty small....
@dshadows2966
@dshadows2966 4 месяца назад
Immediate DC crossover announced! - - - Edit: Not really, but it would be scary to hear.
@ScooterBond1970
@ScooterBond1970 4 месяца назад
DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
True. Unfortunately, She Hulk is a possibility.
@q.heffner3612
@q.heffner3612 4 месяца назад
Magneto can't even sarcastically state Professor Xs position without throwing up and after fighting him for 5 seasons, the X Men still can't quite figure him out yet. Better than anything Marvel has done so far but what is that really saying at this point
@marvelprince
@marvelprince 4 месяца назад
To be fair, the show has shown him moving in this direction from the beginning. He starts out the show as a mutant supremacist and adversary to the team, then he starts to respect them, then he comes to respect Charles pov after they got stuck in the savage land together, then he tries to soften his approach by just creating a haven for mutants without attacking any humans. And when that fails he gets to meet his children who he lost due to how he drove his wife away cause of his crusade again pat mutants. And at the end of the show we see that gives up his dream, the chance to lead all mutants against humans to save the life of Professor X, fully rejecting his past and giving up his dream to save Xavier’s.
@arcaneking085
@arcaneking085 4 месяца назад
wrong, he threatened to kill them ine series finale @@marvelprince
@marvelprince
@marvelprince 4 месяца назад
@@arcaneking085 so quick to be so wrong. The last shot of the show is him standing side by side with the XMen.
@RetroPages
@RetroPages 4 месяца назад
The Magneto storyline does kind of require all the x-men to be rubes.
@Pit_Wizard
@Pit_Wizard 4 месяца назад
They were always rubes. The original series had them consistently making bafflingly stupid errors. That's just how kid's TV is, they have to make it obvious enough that children can see through the deception and feel the dramatic irony. This show is a throwback to the original series in nearly every way, good and bad.
@omnianimator8468
@omnianimator8468 4 месяца назад
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who dispises the thought of that relationship.
@bunnywithakeyboard7628
@bunnywithakeyboard7628 4 месяца назад
Ex-Men…
@TaterTotsNFanta
@TaterTotsNFanta 4 месяца назад
Vulvarine and the Ex-Men
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 4 месяца назад
​@@TaterTotsNFantaMenopauso the new leader of the Ex-Men
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Месяц назад
The show is literally changing me from an X-Fan into an Ex-Fan.
@michellemartin3401
@michellemartin3401 Месяц назад
How so?​@@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Месяц назад
@@michellemartin3401 I read all the X-books and 97 is not the X-Men I knew and loved.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 4 месяца назад
It was Gross in the comics, is still gross now
@MT-si3bu
@MT-si3bu 4 месяца назад
how was it gross? Magneto was de - aged
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 4 месяца назад
Isn't the modern mantra that "love is love"?
@jonboulet1614
@jonboulet1614 3 месяца назад
Do you hold Logan to the same standard.
@kwayneboy1524
@kwayneboy1524 3 месяца назад
​@@jeggsonvohees2201no it's not for some reason
@tonyjackson4078
@tonyjackson4078 2 месяца назад
​@@jonboulet1614 hah Logan is like 75 and Jean is in her 30s and it's ok because Logan doesn't have gray hair. Comic fans are silly. Also, like his son Quicksilver, Magneto has had silver hair since his power manifested as a teenager.
@leoncampbell8616
@leoncampbell8616 4 месяца назад
Disney and taste sadly are no longer seeing each other.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Месяц назад
Sure they are. Bad taste is still a taste.
@MaxEdrox
@MaxEdrox 4 месяца назад
I'm suspicious about Magneto too, and more now that you mentioned all those details (because I just saw clips, not full episodes yet because I'm tired of Disney slaping our faces after giving us good premieres). So, Magneto's heroics acts, Storm's sacrifice, Rogue's "romance" he is definitely manipulating everyone around him and used Storm as a pawn. So yeah, I don't believe he is a good guy at all, he is definitely planning something and he is not wasting time on moving the pieces.
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 4 месяца назад
I mean that's who he's always been😅
@MaxEdrox
@MaxEdrox 4 месяца назад
@@Rubrick23. I don't know this version to confirm it but yes in most incarmations he is extremelly manipulative
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
I'm glad to hear that. I thought I was going to be alone in this. lol
@silverprimus321boi9
@silverprimus321boi9 3 месяца назад
See, I wouldn't mind this, it would make the show SO MUCH BETTER. But the problem is, modern day writers unironically think magneto is RIGHT.
@jameljenks2584
@jameljenks2584 4 месяца назад
1. Fitting your X-Men video is in two parts. 2. I enjoyed the premiere. But I also get where you're coming from. I'm giving it it's chance. 3. Roguneto did have me doing mental math for a while NGL.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
I've been doing the same mental math and the numbers just don't add up. They made it sound like it happened a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure the only time it could have happened is before Rogue joined the X-men. But keep in mind, Mystique took Rogue in when Rogue was THIRTEEN. And she was still awfully young when she met Xavier. The writers are dangerously close to something very, very wrong here.
@jameljenks2584
@jameljenks2584 4 месяца назад
@@thoriasunlimited4053 I'm pretending it happened between Charles going off for space loving and when he came back to get shot for no reason.
@rayharvey1330
@rayharvey1330 4 месяца назад
How long before Morph morphs into Jean Gray...and uses this to get into a relationship with Wolverine. 😕
@artofmartialcinemaamc5334
@artofmartialcinemaamc5334 4 месяца назад
🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ [Insert "No! God NO, PLEASE GOD NO!....." meme
@eightiesbaby1980
@eightiesbaby1980 4 месяца назад
Its probably coming but I have strong feeling morph turns into rouge or into another female to console Gambit and they kiss which will make me mad because I loved gambit and he been my fav character ever since the 1st day he step foot in the comics back in the day. I am so sick of this crap my was mad when they put shatterstar and Rictor together back in the day because Rictor as another fav that was when I stopped buying and reading one of my favorite books ever X-force.
@tino9117
@tino9117 4 месяца назад
How long till you stub your toe again
@magnum9588
@magnum9588 4 месяца назад
How about shutting up and watching the show.
@lindadesposito3771
@lindadesposito3771 4 месяца назад
@@magnum9588💯
@Vambam121
@Vambam121 4 месяца назад
Hate engagement farming
@matthewjamal
@matthewjamal 4 месяца назад
Absolutely. Pitiful.
@HellsFallenAngel1
@HellsFallenAngel1 4 месяца назад
15:00 Hand Fisted is what's happening behind the door with Rogue and Magneto
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Dude...
@stacychipouras8741
@stacychipouras8741 4 месяца назад
Thank you Thorias. I really enjoy your videos. 💙
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 месяца назад
I loved the first two episodes but yeah Rogue being on a first name basis with Magneto is just not in line with the series cause they never had any hints of a past relationship. In fact I rewatched the show recently and she reacts like she’s new to him and his powers when he shows up. Not like a girl who’s familiar with him (the 90s cartoon wasn’t unfamiliar to retconning ideas like how they mused that Beast was blue furred from a young age only to show that he looked normal, save for big hands and feet, into his young adulthood). That and the old show had Magnus as his implied first name (it’s what Charles calls him anyway). Magneto being referred to as “Erik” and him being Rogue’s love interest is purely because it’s from the comics not because it makes sense for the show. It would’ve at least felt less like a fanfic addition if they didn’t bring the name Erik into things. That being said I do think the 90s X-Men writers were playing Magneto as the victim of a holocaust in a non-specific war and nation because the 90s BSnP limited them from saying words to really ground those facts into the narrative. So technically he might not be as absurdly elderly compared to Rogue. I can’t say that this is a deal breaker. I especially hope that this romantic tribulation will bring Rogue and Gambit closer together since we’ve seen an ex-lover do that already with Belladonna when Gambit showed that his affections for Rogue were stronger than his past with her.
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 4 месяца назад
Wha? Ppl at that school have always been Magneto worshipers what's sycophants because Magneto technically is a Xavier the same reason they love Xavier is the same reason they feel kin to magnet😅
@trueLuminus
@trueLuminus 4 месяца назад
They called him Magnus, because Magneto's real name hadn't yet been revealed in the comics. Also, this season takes place a full year after the end of last season. How long do you think it takes to bag a woman? Especially one who's DESPERATE for a person she can touch. Years? It doesn't matter that he was a criminal. Have you met women?
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 месяца назад
@@trueLuminus Rogue did said “that was a long time ago, Erik” emphasizing the long time ago part and that it’s a part of her past that stretched past just a few months. Even so, I really don’t mind the plot point, just that it is a bit clashy with the previous parts. And I personally prefer the name Erik but it is just a little funny to leave out the way Charles previously referred to him only as Magnus. I know why they used Erik but it’s still an odd change for the continuity.
@trueLuminus
@trueLuminus 4 месяца назад
@@Nightman221k Just 3 months is a long time. Try waiting that long to get better from a sickness and it might as well be an eternity. Whole wars with the Shi'ar Empire leading to the destruction of entire civilizations could've happened in a year's time.
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 4 месяца назад
Eh, that doesn't mean the new show should retcon. I don't think retconning is good in general- but at least the Beast thing was sort of insular. The Rogue Magneto romance retcon makes the rest of the series jarring. It makes you go back and wonder why did no one even mention this in passing. In that sense this retcon is much worse than the Beast one and much more forced because you have to make up reasons why it works in face of very contradicting reasons. Would have been better if they just set up the relation on their own as apposed to referencing something from the comics books which has no bearing on the series. Very sloppy.
@patrickmcgavin2245
@patrickmcgavin2245 4 месяца назад
I knew they were going to do Madelyn Pryor aka Goblin Queen story. Bc hasbro made an action figure based off this series. I believe you. I'm just surprised nowadays they're actually showing men being competent smart and strong. Hopefully it stays that way. They're retconning the original series with Madelyn being Cables mother. I know that's what happened in the comics. In the series however cable when he's an adult still believes that Jean Grey is his mom.
@trueLuminus
@trueLuminus 4 месяца назад
Are they retconning? When did Cable find out his mother was really Madelyne in the comics? We know he has to be sent into the future by himself, so maybe they decide not to tell him.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
I wondered if they'd do it just because that story makes Scott look really bad. I like that they changed it to make him sympathetic.
@patrickmcgavin2245
@patrickmcgavin2245 4 месяца назад
@@thoriasunlimited4053 yeah it does. If this was 10-15 years ago I would say there's no way the writers and show runners would do that. I wouldn't put anything past ppl in the entertainment industry nowadays. I hope it wouldn't, however I'd expect it to happen.
@patrickmcgavin2245
@patrickmcgavin2245 4 месяца назад
@@thoriasunlimited4053 I'm thinking the reason why everything seems rushed is. They don't know if they'll get another season. So they want to cram as much stories as possible in season one. I thought at the very least Madelyne Pryor story would happen in the middle of the season. It would be better at the end of the season for a cliff hanger.
@neodigremo
@neodigremo 4 месяца назад
So correct me if I am wrong but Rogues timeline to my mind went 1) powers show up 2) joins mystique 3) absorbs Miss Marvel powers and goes mad 4) Xavier helps her with the fallout of that 5) Rogue joins the x-men. There is no space for this to happen in. Not unless it is when Rogue was with mystique and clearly presented as very young and naive. Which is not a good look. Buuuuuuut, Rogue having an interest in the past in the charismatic, powerful man who is uniquely able to touch her…… it is believable as a reason for her to be willing. Again there is no slot in the timeline for it, but I could believe it as possible - and of course a bad thing in universe
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 месяца назад
The cartoon makes her seem like she was unfamiliar with Magneto in his first appearance. I don’t know if they’ll explain it but in the cartoon Rogue made it a point that she was sad she never could have skin-to-skin contact with anyone since nearly putting her first boyfriend Cody into a coma. Having her be Magneto’s girlfriend contradicts that.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I'm really struggling with the timeline here. I think it's possible that it could have happened when she was in the Brotherhood or maybe right after the Ms. Marvel encounter, but that's where it gets really creepy; she was SO young and vulnerable at that time.
@stephencooper3583
@stephencooper3583 4 месяца назад
Basically, she was adopted as a teen by Mystique, who was a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. When she felt Rogue was old enough, she pressured her to join too. That led to a fight with Ms. Marvel and Rogue permanently absorbed her powers. She continued as a villain in the Brotherhood for quite a while after that and had run ins with the Avengers, X-men, Dazzler, Rom, and a few others. Over time, Ms Marvel's psyche in her head started driving her crazy and she eventually went to Professor X for help. By then, she had been their enemy for years. It's not specifically said how long she was with the Brotherhood, but it's implied at least several years, as she was well into her 20's by the time she joined the Xmen. So the show is implying that they met some time during her Brotherhood days, since Magneto was heavily involved with them as well and off/on their leader. In other words... 2/3/4 took place over the span of several years.
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 месяца назад
​@@stephencooper3583 I've always assumed Rogue, Storm, Jean, and Scott (all the characters in their relative age bracket) are in their 30s. None of them are dealing with actual schooling and they all seem rather mature and adult. It's definitely not like Rogue is Jubilee's age.
@stephencooper3583
@stephencooper3583 4 месяца назад
@@Nightman221k ... from what I understand, Scott, Jean, Storm, Beast (and Iceman and Angel) should all indeed be in their 30's. I think Rogue is a little younger though... mid 20's maybe. Because when Mystique took her in as a teen, the Brotherhood had already been enemies of the Xmen for a few years. Wolverine is old... he just ages differently. Jubilee is a teen... I dunno... 18-ish? Bishop is from the future, but he's a seasoned soldier who rose through the ranks to a leadership position. So maybe mid to late 30's. Gambit is also hard to tell, since his past is supposed to be mysterious. Maybe early 30's. Of course, I could be wrong about alot of this... just best guesses, ya know?
@GrayskullPrime
@GrayskullPrime 4 месяца назад
X-men needs to get out of the 60s. Where's the hordes of activists propping up mutants like gods? Where's the mutant flags painted on the streets? Where's the checkbox mutant in every TV show?
@unitron2005
@unitron2005 3 месяца назад
This show is w0ke pr0paganda. Like every. single. thing. today. Do you really expect them to sabotage their own propaganda when shows are simply made for the sake of spreading that propaganda? I honestly hate how people are STILL falling for nostalgia bait like this is not crystal clear at this point.
@Trencher1375
@Trencher1375 4 месяца назад
They are doing everything in their power to dismiss the Rouge Gambit romance hahahaah
@DabionFreedom
@DabionFreedom 4 месяца назад
Yet another excellent new episode review, Thorias. of X-Men 97. I'm looking forward to more, please keep them coming. :)
@a.nonymouse
@a.nonymouse 4 месяца назад
This is what a PASSIONATE FAN looks like kids. Notice I said PASSIONATE and not TOXIC LOL. Thorias is always on point when talking about shows and movies, it always comes from the heart and that's why he rocks so much.
@notfromhere8889
@notfromhere8889 4 месяца назад
Nope, just another guy monetizing negativity
@a.nonymouse
@a.nonymouse 4 месяца назад
@@notfromhere8889Then clearly you and I didn't listen to the same 2 reviews. Because Thorias was pretty clear on the things he really liked about the show. I also grew up with the animated series and it's a personal favorite no matter how 'dated' it is. Sooner or later everything these days turns into "Current year politics." And we're all sick to death of that.
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 4 месяца назад
​@@notfromhere8889 Monetizing negativity lol. Guess you're not allowed to have an opinion or even a sense of logic. It's hard to overstate how just childish this point of view is. Literally have to shill for a media company, otherwise you're monetizing on negativity, ok buddy. Go watch some Collider or something if you just want to hear corporate shilling, that's clearly what you want- don't need to shit on him in the comments here if it's not even content you like. Again offering fair criticism as apposed to just mindlessly enjoying Disney slop is 'monetizing negativity.' Guess you can't offer sober criticism anymore because that's 'monetizing negativity.' Disney has fucked up like 99.5% of their Star Wars and Marvel property movies\TV in the past five years and this guy is just monetizing on negativity, fuck.
@notfromhere8889
@notfromhere8889 4 месяца назад
@a.nonymouse I'm sick of hearing about politics from fans. Maybe it's the algorithm. I get a lot of videos where fans whine about politics. But I don't get videos that actually display where the shows are about "current year politics" outside of, well, what the franchises have done forever. This guy whining about what he admits is a good show because he's scared of..."something" happening. Is it that traumatic for women and black actors to be proud of who they are in interviews? Get over it
@notfromhere8889
@notfromhere8889 4 месяца назад
@hiverhythm what logic? Making up imaginary issues on good shows? "It's good, but the creator might say he's proud to be black and ruin it all for me...or a plot line won't match my mental fan fiction" that's not an opinion that's being negative to get Likes from people who hate Disney.
@JimTheAPE
@JimTheAPE 4 месяца назад
Just hearing about the Magneto/Rogue thing is giving me flashbacks to the Batman/Batgirl shipping in The Killing Joke movie. Except this time it's even worse because Magneto is a VILLAIN. And even though it's a kid's cartoon that I haven't properly watched in ages, I'm pretty sure he's killed people. Like, probably a lot of people. So one of the heroes being romantically involved with him is at best nonsensical or worse, a tacit endorsement of his horrible actions as a villain.
@cb-gz1vl
@cb-gz1vl 4 месяца назад
Given woke it will be Gambit and Magneto hooking up.
@hiverhythm
@hiverhythm 4 месяца назад
That would be a nice plot twist. "Fuck you, Rogue! No one fists me like Gambit!"
@James_Bee
@James_Bee 4 месяца назад
"that would be a nice plot twist" For current year? That's normal.
@leonrobinson8180
@leonrobinson8180 2 месяца назад
​@@hiverhythm 🤮
@miguelito6944
@miguelito6944 4 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure the Rogue/ Magneto thing happens in the Age of Apocalypse story arc in the comics.. it was creepy then too..
@cooperhawk6716
@cooperhawk6716 4 месяца назад
Claremont came up with it in 1991 when she was in the savage land, Rouge was 20, and Magneto was de-aged It is weird that everyone complains about magneto when Wolverine, Captain America, and thors are another worse if you're complaining, age gaps, especially Sharon Carter
@kernsanders3973
@kernsanders3973 4 месяца назад
When you first see it yes, but when you learn more about the AOA timeline, it actually makes more sense. You learn Magneto in this timeline doesnt have an extensive war crimes list and was the leader of the resistance since the beginning. By the end when they have a child, its actually endearing that two people started a family in world that is fast moving towards extinction. Where it actually becomes sad when Magneto and Rogue sacrifice their relationship and child to correct the timeline and restore the X-men to stop the age of apocalypse from occurring. In this TAS show however it makes no sense
@yagamifire7861
@yagamifire7861 4 месяца назад
​@@cooperhawk6716Cap was frozen. He doesn't have 100 years of life experience
@cooperhawk6716
@cooperhawk6716 4 месяца назад
@yagamifire7861 Yeah, but that same excuse does not apply to Wolverine or Thor
@yagamifire7861
@yagamifire7861 4 месяца назад
@@cooperhawk6716I didn't say it did and I'd find them with a teenager or someone in their early 20's very creepy as well
@Accel-uu2wz
@Accel-uu2wz 4 месяца назад
its funny how Disney digs up the corpse of a Popular show and then completely destroys it with Crappy animation and predictably BAD storytelling!
@James_Bee
@James_Bee 4 месяца назад
Crappy animation? When was the last time you watched the OG X-Men ? I loved it as a kid, but after rewatching the first couple episodes, I definitely remember it being better than it actually is. Still great, but the animation was definitely rushed in those first two episodes.
@Clintdaddy412
@Clintdaddy412 4 месяца назад
The Rogue and Magneto romance absolutely does not fit but then you realize its Disney and they screw up everything even the good stuff.
@primeobjective5469
@primeobjective5469 4 месяца назад
Calling it out for what it is. Perfect.
@Batkoku
@Batkoku 4 месяца назад
A pair of Jeans!
@coolman229
@coolman229 4 месяца назад
Thanks for making an actual review on this. I'm seeing so many people bend over backwards to defend this only because of fanservice and attacking any criticism of it.
@luismedrano6680
@luismedrano6680 3 месяца назад
this didnt age well lol
@coolman229
@coolman229 3 месяца назад
​@@luismedrano6680 Unfortunately people hype up this garbage show
@setlik3gaming80
@setlik3gaming80 4 месяца назад
Excellent review
@MAXXWORX
@MAXXWORX 4 месяца назад
Good video. Thanks for all the infos. Please continue with the review, i cannot watch it, so i listen to a few reviewers and you do a good job on pretty much all the shows and movies.
@zerocalvin
@zerocalvin 4 месяца назад
they fooled me once with he-man, they arent going to fool me with x-men.... he-man also have a pretty good episode 1 and 2, afterward everything went downhill faster than a green snake in a sugarcane field.
@Bluepenguin28
@Bluepenguin28 4 месяца назад
0:38 Magneto? looks like its maam guy wtf! , Disney+ pay up to see your childhood ruined
@georgecoman8448
@georgecoman8448 4 месяца назад
I think they only make him be a couple with Rogue so that he'll annoy every faction, not just Jean & Cyclops
@leov3569
@leov3569 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the reviews, I was on the fence about watching the show but it’s looking good so far.
@milestrombley1466
@milestrombley1466 4 месяца назад
Some things should stay in the comic books!
@TheKingOfRuckus
@TheKingOfRuckus 4 месяца назад
Rogue and Magneto being a thing is disgusting. Weren't Mystique and Magneto together at one point in the comics? She is also Rogue's adoptive mom right? Jesus 😂. I'm laughing but it's really not funny at all, and it's kind of on brand for Disney to dive into the Rogue and Magneto nonsense instead of ignoring it. They of all companies would be happy to attempt to legitimize something so disgusting.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Mystique and Magneto were never together in the comics as far as I know, but I could be wrong about that. She is Rogue's adoptive mom, though.
@LukeMidnight1
@LukeMidnight1 4 месяца назад
Glad to see someone finally calling out the issues. Keep up the good work!
@kidcourage5777
@kidcourage5777 4 месяца назад
Issues? You mean following comics
@LukeMidnight1
@LukeMidnight1 4 месяца назад
@@kidcourage5777 No. I mean calling out issues. Comics aren't sacred texts that can't be criticised and being a faithful adaptation does not make the storyline any good. Rogue X Magneto was dog shit in the comics and still is as much of a dog shit concept in 97. Stop pretend we should gulp down any sewage waste that comes our way just because it was in a comic book first.
@kwayneboy1524
@kwayneboy1524 3 месяца назад
​@@LukeMidnight1and why is rouge x Mag bad again?
@kazekamiha
@kazekamiha 4 месяца назад
Honestly, I expect Disney will drop the ball. 100%.
@tino9117
@tino9117 4 месяца назад
I think this season will be fine but I am more concerned with a potential season 2
@jackall-trades6149
@jackall-trades6149 4 месяца назад
Crash down? Did it really ever leave the ground?
@matthewbobzien8474
@matthewbobzien8474 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the video
@martezberry3164
@martezberry3164 4 месяца назад
Great video....im new to the channel!___u make a lot of sense 🙂
@marktheshark7588
@marktheshark7588 4 месяца назад
So wait,they cucked Gambit.Damn,they really f'ed this show.
@fishjones4618
@fishjones4618 4 месяца назад
It’s D+. I’m not taking the bait. Remember that Moon Knight and Wandavision started out great as well.
@DarksideGmss0513
@DarksideGmss0513 4 месяца назад
They are adapting Inferno and LifeDeath I think they'll be fine.
@fishjones4618
@fishjones4618 4 месяца назад
@@DarksideGmss0513 How did it go when Disney/Marvel adapted Secret Invasion?
@DarksideGmss0513
@DarksideGmss0513 4 месяца назад
@@fishjones4618 this is different.
@buttkingsley1403
@buttkingsley1403 4 месяца назад
@@DarksideGmss0513how so
@magnum9588
@magnum9588 4 месяца назад
​​@@fishjones4618Cough Loki cough.
@jaybees5734
@jaybees5734 4 месяца назад
Rogue was checking if Uranus has a magnetic force 😂
@balrighty3523
@balrighty3523 4 месяца назад
While I grew to appreciate what they were doing with Beast in season one more as I got older, I remember being bored with him as a kid because he spent the entire first season on trial. Yet Magneto’s trial is over in an episode?
@WilyGryphon
@WilyGryphon 4 месяца назад
Beast was kept in jail for the first season because the producers didn't want him to be a part of the main cast, so he was sidelined but kept around until they could be won over. That isn't an issue now, and the writers want to get to the stuff past that.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Magneto goes from surrendering to the UN, to going on trial, to being pardoned, all in just a few scenes. It's like they don't trust viewers to have an attention span anymore.
@jpmcpheemcphee2695
@jpmcpheemcphee2695 4 месяца назад
I don't know what is more awkward, the Magneto/Rogue romance, or, the long Purple dinner gloves Magneto stole from the Queen Elizabeth collection
@SpectacularumbreonRPG
@SpectacularumbreonRPG 4 месяца назад
This happened comic but everybody hate back in 1990s and still hate right now
@MrBlurredOut
@MrBlurredOut 4 месяца назад
Disney and Marvel have given you zero reasons to give them the benefit of the doubt and 20 reasons why you can expect them to mess this up. Its not nit picking when Disney is famous for giving no effs about continuity and lore.
@jamesstewart8376
@jamesstewart8376 4 месяца назад
You just asked Disney writers to be tasteful. The only draw the line at heteronormative.
@reeper5481
@reeper5481 4 месяца назад
Womp womp
@killebee6183
@killebee6183 4 месяца назад
It's marvel tradition to make at least 2 decent episodes and fall off right after in their shows
@robchuk4136
@robchuk4136 4 месяца назад
Good review. I'm a little higher on the show, but I think you bring up some great points. That kind of counterbalance to all the praise is needed. Definitely hope you review all the episodes.
@user-xm1ed6xg1d
@user-xm1ed6xg1d 4 месяца назад
Your being honest man! Keep making content!
@arsenef.6807
@arsenef.6807 4 месяца назад
I love the new animation.❤ Everything is like in the comics as well (storyline). Will keep on enjoying it.
@infinity_flair
@infinity_flair 4 месяца назад
Makes sense that so much is going Magneto's way - modern Disney is all about heroicizing villains.
@kernsanders3973
@kernsanders3973 4 месяца назад
The same feeling I got, episode 2 just felt like the Magneto show, guest starring the x-men. if that keeps up im out
@Chiefteeth1
@Chiefteeth1 4 месяца назад
The actual villains are humans. They actively participate in genocide or sit in the sidelines when it happens but mutants are wrong for retaliating?you need to touch grass
@jezebulls
@jezebulls 4 месяца назад
Boom! Remember when Falcon told us the Flag Smashers are not terrorists?
@LizardThe
@LizardThe 4 месяца назад
Magneto has been on the side of heroes several times and long before the purchase of Disney.
@duckhawkninja3614
@duckhawkninja3614 4 месяца назад
Meh as an anime fan that aspect of modern Disney has never bothered me.
@leonarddement3432
@leonarddement3432 4 месяца назад
Hey!! I missed you!
@Barot8
@Barot8 4 месяца назад
I hope they aren't rushing to the modern comic stories. That's the worst.
@kernsanders3973
@kernsanders3973 4 месяца назад
When Magneto started talking about "send all mutants to islands"... feels like it was a push to the island saga thing happening in the comic for the last decade which was terrible at best. Just saying...
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
My feeling was that it could be a setup for Genosha becoming a giant mutant graveyard like in Grant Morrison's New X-men run. Nothing good ever happens to mutants in Genosha. That place might as well be cursed.
@toddholland7511
@toddholland7511 4 месяца назад
For all you know? That “Magneto” is Joseph. Clones are obviously a thing,and Sinister is involved. If not,even in the original series,past his first appearance,Magneto went “ Anti Hero” by the end of the first season.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Even as an anti-hero, Magneto still did some really bad stuff.
@Rubrick23.
@Rubrick23. 4 месяца назад
I think you ppl got way to use to the X men movies. Magneto's has always been a boss😅.
@Viktoryia3
@Viktoryia3 3 месяца назад
Everyone is like "oh rogue and gambit having a complicated relationship? Welcome to their whole history." EXACTLY. They could've given us something good, something sweet and beautiful, not without hiccups and trials but they didn't need to make it a *rooming story with magneto :/ Just cause it was done in the comics doesnt mean we need to see it on disney plus
@timinou9915
@timinou9915 4 месяца назад
Hope you do all the serie like that ! Lets go algorithm!! 👌👌
@danjager6200
@danjager6200 4 месяца назад
The UN gave Magneto a pardon? So, like if the UN tells a nation like Russia, China, Brazil, the US, Japan . .. etc that one of the criminals in their country is now pardoned, what do you think would happen?
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
So you see why I'm having a hard time buying into this, right? It makes sense IF Magneto is working an angle and somehow pulling everyone's strings like a puppet master, so events will work out in his favor. But if that's NOT what's going on, then I truly don't know what we're doing here.
@danjager6200
@danjager6200 4 месяца назад
@@thoriasunlimited4053 Magneto is so broken powerful that no amount of good or ill will on the part of the humans means nothing. Why bother? He could create another asteroid base or conquer hollow earth or whatever.
@MaverickhunterXZero
@MaverickhunterXZero 4 месяца назад
The X-men took the Steven Universe method of dealing with megalomaniacal maniacs by letting Magneto go free because he kind of did something good. This will be a train-wreck in a few episodes.
@NSAgent
@NSAgent 4 месяца назад
Don't worry bout your video length bro, people like me LOVE the long videos! I'd gladly watch an hour long one from ya
@madamefluffy4788
@madamefluffy4788 4 месяца назад
100% believing that Magneto is manipulating everything to work in his favor and the X-Men are being entirely too trusting of him, making them look like idiots. Here's hoping that the ridiculous Magneto/Rogue/Gambit triangle ends the same way it had in the comics - with Gambit and Magneto getting into a intense fight and Rogue getting so fed up with them that she dumps them both.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
I really can't believe Jean refused to mindscan him. The only explanation that makes sense to me is that Magneto's up to something and the writers don't want the team finding out about it, but holy moly, not taking such a basic precaution like that was so dumb, they deserve to have it blow up in their faces.
@DeepThinker193
@DeepThinker193 3 месяца назад
The ole Bait and Switch. Not gonna lie. The bait got me. I'm dangling on that line and fighting. Now I'm just waiting for the 'Switch' so I would let go.
@StudioDragoonX
@StudioDragoonX 4 месяца назад
@Thorias Unlimited Is it possible that instead this the birth of Cable, but X Man ( Nate Summers ) instead?
@redvitaminblue
@redvitaminblue 4 месяца назад
Didn't Scott Lobdell de-age Magneto in the 90's comics in order to make the Rouge-Gambit-Magneto love triangle seem less weird? Maybe that's the direction the writers will eventually take: create a barrier for the characters and audience (age difference), then resolve that tension (de-age Magneto) in order to maximize the effect of another tension (the love triangle)? Now THAT kind of convoluted mess WOULD be a faithful adaption of the X-Men comics. Oh, and oddly enough, I think The X-Cutioner and "The X-Cutioner's Song" are two different things that happened in X-Men comics at the same time. The character never actually appeared in the event that shared his namesake, though he did first appear in a story a year later that loosely dealt with the aftermath of the epilogue to that crossover. Go figure.
@michaelbatson1879
@michaelbatson1879 4 месяца назад
The "de-aged" Magneto was actually a Magneto clone name Joesef. Read the 1998-1999 Magneto War story for details about how and why the Magneto clone was created.
@jonboulet1614
@jonboulet1614 4 месяца назад
Crossroads was a great story and dealt with Magneto’s duality as a character and their shared backstory as ex terrorists turned heroes.(Magneto had been Rogue’s teammate on the X-men for two years) Magneto is terrified of turning back to his old ways and Rogue believes in someone she sees as a friend and comrade. Add in the fact that Rogue’s powers were temporarily deactivated and could touch someone for the first time while Magneto is in emotional turmoil …yeah. It doesn’t work here but it did there. It is worth noting Magneto was biologically in his 20’s and nobody gives Logan this kind of guff over dating younger women. Also Rogue was 20 at the time (Kitty Pryde had gone from 14 to 16 during that period and Rogue joined the X-men at 18). PS After the Trial of Magneto in the comics Magneto was a full fledged hero andX-man until the team apparently died in Texas during Fall of Mutants.
@thanglongnguyenvu3815
@thanglongnguyenvu3815 4 месяца назад
Rogue was hungry for that old, wrinkle sausage.
@thehacker4012
@thehacker4012 4 месяца назад
Oh please, not only do fans "grossed out" by Magneto and Rogue sound like pearl clutching puritans, they sound like complete hypocrites to be freaked out by Magento and Rogue but root for the Logan and Jean, suddenly the age difference matters to you?
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
I never liked Logan and Jean either.
@thehacker4012
@thehacker4012 4 месяца назад
@@thoriasunlimited4053 But a lot of people do, and based on own preference they probably wouldn't be a thing.
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric 4 месяца назад
For modern audiences.
@smak387
@smak387 4 месяца назад
Is magneto wearing shooting sleeves??
@fortcastellan1730
@fortcastellan1730 4 месяца назад
Once bitten, twice shy. And considering how often we've been bitten.... I can't even pretend to hold out hope that the show won't 'all come crashing down.'
@Luciphell
@Luciphell 4 месяца назад
It's exactly as you say. Disney/Marvel writers now can't do subtext and twisting plots. With these dunces, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's just a normal old, average duck. "Hurray, don't you feel smart since you knew it the whole time? "
@Kowalski_5
@Kowalski_5 4 месяца назад
This is the problem I feel. We're all looking forward to it all coming crashing down. I appeal for patience, the wait will be worth it I'm sure😂
@donnerblitzen1388
@donnerblitzen1388 4 месяца назад
Gonna say it here as I have said in other comment sections about this topic: The show runner before he got canned by old Bobby iger wanted to make x-men97 into the next “Velma” for Disney+ but even more ridiculous than what WB did. Bobby wasn’t having it and tossed him out the door. Beautiful mayonnaise (beau demayo) managed to get two seasons in before the ejection, but three seasons were greenlit. It is entirely unknown how the typical Disney “bait and switch” will happen, but I get the impression that it will happen. Question is “when”
@dragunov815
@dragunov815 4 месяца назад
Interesting.
@ralunix4612
@ralunix4612 4 месяца назад
I will be honest. I like Magneto be a silver fox but not with Rogue................... like bro.
@EmperorPilaf04
@EmperorPilaf04 2 месяца назад
This didn't age well 😬 At least it's clear you READ the comics (unlike other critics), but you still don't seem to have UNDERSTOOD what you read.
@theamazingjack3039
@theamazingjack3039 4 месяца назад
If that's how they want to handle relationships, let's pray they don't add Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver.
@Slothful_Healing
@Slothful_Healing 4 месяца назад
I can just picture the writer's room now: Demayo: I really like Southern Comfort mixed with Coke. It's one of my favorite drinks. Any way we can work that in somewhere? Other writer: Not on Disney plus, sadly. But I do have an idea involving Magneto and Rogue... I was considering getting Disney plus, but after Doctor Who and now this? No thanks. Thank you for your sacrifice, Thorias. You've saved much of my grey matter.
@michaelsasylum
@michaelsasylum 4 месяца назад
Do they not remember that terragenesis restores mutant powers?
@HonestGeorgeThePeoplesFriend
@HonestGeorgeThePeoplesFriend 4 месяца назад
You put a lot into perspective when comparing these events with the previous series. That showrunner better be careful or Disney may fire him .... oh, wait.
@kernsanders3973
@kernsanders3973 4 месяца назад
Its clear they were happy with all his retcons that they are viral marketing that season 3 is in the works. They fired him because he was posting pics of himself on OF, yes those type of pics. Disney doesnt want the risk associated with that. Which is why it was announced and not just a stealth departure, to ensure everyone knows he is not currently working for Disney
@HonestGeorgeThePeoplesFriend
@HonestGeorgeThePeoplesFriend 4 месяца назад
I'm still waiting on any official word on the firing reasons, like you I'm assuming its the photos, but with Disney I would not have been surprised if they kept Mayo even with those being out there. The two quite wordy dissertations about being "left out by the future" and the travesty of humans' treatment of mutants, along with white male doctor refusing to birth Jean's baby while the women nurses had no issue, certainly gives you reason to suspect more is coming. @@kernsanders3973
@James_Bee
@James_Bee 4 месяца назад
Yeah, we can't have anyone thinking Disney associates with perverts and degenerates..
@shadowlazers
@shadowlazers 3 месяца назад
So what.if erik and rogue had a thing..?
@GhostRider-870
@GhostRider-870 4 месяца назад
Dumb question..is the show supposed to take place in 1997??
@EmperorPilaf04
@EmperorPilaf04 2 месяца назад
I must admit, you're the only critic I've seen who doesn't rely on "X-Men went woke" as their sole critique. Even though I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinions, I understand how you reached them, and you clearly frame it as your opinion rather than a fact. First time watching you and I'm intrigued.
@sardonically-inclined7645
@sardonically-inclined7645 4 месяца назад
YT notifications can GFT because I'm 7 hours late to this.
@rdn638
@rdn638 4 месяца назад
I completely agree with you. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
Right? There's just so many things lining up perfectly for Magneto right now, one after another, like dominoes. That doesn't happen by accident; there's something weird going on here, I just don't know what. If he's not somehow manipulating these events for some other purpose, then... well, I don't know how else this happens.
@redPGC
@redPGC 4 месяца назад
he’s teaching her to control her powers.. it’s so obvious
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
I certainly hope it's as simple as that. Believe me, I'd LOVE to be wrong about this.
@ashleyl3861
@ashleyl3861 4 месяца назад
So if there are inhibitor collars why doesn’t rogue just wear one for gambit 😂
@yagamifire7861
@yagamifire7861 4 месяца назад
Literally never explained and that was always a problem for me
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 4 месяца назад
That's something I wondered about even back when the original show was airing. It never made any sense. Because they wanted Rogue to not be able to control her powers for drama, I guess. I'd love it if this show would bring that up at some point because Rogue never considering it as a possibility it is just weird.
@blueblur2273
@blueblur2273 4 месяца назад
Personally, I didn't find the Wolverine joke about Apocalypse funny at all. It was predictable, and it made no sense, considering Wolverine can smell enemies nearby. The show was full of nonsenical things like that for the sake it being cool or funny. The typical Disney vehicle. I completely agree with you on the rest of the stuff you said.
@laudensharpe6529
@laudensharpe6529 4 месяца назад
Well, that escalated quickly 😮
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