I always loved this twist. Master Mold's technically using the "robots turn against their masters cliche," but he doesn't see it that way. He believes this is the only way to prevent a mutually destructive war between two sides of humanity.
This scene was high on emotion but low on logic. The guy told MasterMold to attack all MUTANTS, not all HUMANS. MasterMold was extrapolating and therefore violating his orders. All mutants may be humans, but not all humans are mutants.
Eh kinda its related to atleast old comic canon a baseline human group of scientists literally named mutants as a different human species literally classed in the Marvel comic books science as ''Homo-superior'' So the X-men are yet aren't humans as they are a different class of humans .. then add to depending on what backstory to mutants in Marvel we go with they have in some backstories been around before modern humans was a thing or popped up alongside em..
Lloyd Landrum they are red blooded, white boned, have the same organs and they're born from humans but they just happen to have a gimmick; they're humans alright.
@@elnombredelarosa3167 True but my point is do to canon they are a offshoot of the Human species technically do to long standing canon aspects depending on what part in comic canon is read.. basically think of baseline Humans and Mutants as Neanderthals and homosapiens two very similar groups of Human species but still different species that can have kids with humans no trouble as yes fun fact it was confirmed by science Neanderthals and what we know as Modern man had actually been so similar they could produce results yet still different enough they was different species where as races are the same species Thus canon wise depending on the situation mutants are either a offshoot of what we know as modern man.. dormant genetics from a long forgotten ancestry asserting itself or a hybrid This gets even more fuzzy and murky when one takes into account there is mutant animals in Marvel canon such as a feline that had a natural X-gene that awakened gaining a human form and in this it was assumed till a telepath got in the mix the feline with a human mutation was just a human being ruled and overwhelmed by a feral feline mutation and other oddness
@@lloydlandrum3040 true enough but Neanderthals weren't spontaneously born all over the world like mutants. They slowly came to exist through millions of years of natural selection from the descendants of the homoerectus that remained in Africa, which resulted on this group having common traits. A common background makes a specie, random changes that skip out of the norm is mutations, which are still considered part of the specie. Now if mutants started reproducing between one another that could result in their being sepparated species over time but as it is calling them one isn't much different from doing so between races or even with people with uninherited traits like say having an extra toe or rib.
@@elnombredelarosa3167 Eh actually canon wise long standing mutants are another species that basically popped out of nowhere in the comics do to literally being another being race forgot if it was the eternals or another race that tweaked early species dna and mutants have for quite sometime have ''tribes'' producing off spring and its explained the X-gene is only a thing that activates naturally in those who hold enough of Homo-superior genetic codes and markers in them to allow it.. where as mutates the mutation needs some outside forces to awaken .. And inhumans are basically a imposter of mutants made by Skulls that tried to do what the being that caused mutants and the Skrulls themselve to exist by trying to replicate it but caused where a special exposure is needed to awaken the gene in question and the same expose can iether further advance a X-gene situation or kill off mutants depending on the genetic code and markers how much they hold To go further Mutants born X-gene active are a thing via mutants having kids together or even half bloods .. then we had mutates can be born regularly from full blooded mutants dou. Then you have to go look at the wierder canon aspescts to see why Mutants are truly fully unlike baseline humans and are a offshoot species and this wierd canon goes back quite a ways honestly and retcons and reworks iether gets in the way or makes things more convoluted and intertwined then prior.. For example Mutants can still literally produce results with primates do to a difference in genetics to regular baseline humans and how much more flexible and mailable a mutants dna code is
Master Mold actually made a pretty common mistake in logic. All mutants may be human, but not all humans are mutants. His programming was to target a specific KIND of human, not EVERY human. It'd be like me saying, "Internet! Show me a hot blonde girl!" Then the internet shows me a brunette because both are girls.
Trask: Okay but you KNOW what I mean! The X-Gene! You're supposed to protect us from the X-Gene! Master Mold: So what are you gonna say if another mutation of that kind comes along? Am I gonna protect you from that? Besides, plenty of people without the X-Gene have gone on to develop superhuman abilities, many of them more dangerous on paper than actual mutants. It seems to me you're overstating the role genetics plays in how much of a danger- Trask: Ugh, this is the last time I build giant robots for my schemes. Narrator: It would not at all be the last time he built giant robots for his schemes.
I love this scene. The wording, the message and everything else is perfect. This machine that has no hate, and only thinks in logic sees the obvious truth that the mutant haters could not. Even if the machine was the villain, it served as a wake up call for some people.
Master Mold actually made a pretty common mistake in logic. All mutants may be human, but not all humans are mutants. His programming was to target a specific KIND of human, not EVERY human. It'd be like me saying, "Internet! Show me a hot blonde girl!" Then the internet shows me a brunette because both are girls.
@@captainunload It is possible that all/nearly all humans have the genes that make them capable of getting mutant powers, but don't have these genes activated. So the only real difference in that case is whether the gene is active or dormant. In such a case, most of humans are indistinguishable from mutants in both case (all mutants are humans and nearly all humans are also mutants/proto-mutants).
"That is not logical. Mutants are humans. Therefore: humans must be protected from themselves." Master Mold. "As I told Dr. Cooper right before she betrayed me and her kind, people are good. Too damn good. Thus, to protect humanity, I must protect humanity from itself." Bastion.
That was the moment President Kelly knew that Mastermold would wipe out all of humanity (mutants and non mutants) to reach that goal...... Wondering if the artists responsible for Mastermold at Marvel were inspired by the Terminator.
Garbage in: "Protect humans from mutants!" Equals garbage out: "Mutants are human. Thus humanity as a whole must be culled in order to obey the directive."
Ok, so Master Mold needs a course in logic. Because while all mutants may be human, not all humans must be mutant. So his interpretation of his programming wasn't necessarily good. The creator should have clarified and said, "No, I meant for all non-mutant humans to be protected from all mutant humans." Anyway, I get the point of the scene. It still is kind of powerful. Just wish they'd made the logic tighter.
***** All mutants are humans, but not all humans are mutants. Just like all Labradors are dogs, but not all dogs are Labradors. Therefore, it would be like Trask telling Mastermold to kill all Labradors, and then Mastermold interpreting that to mean he should kill all dogs. An advanced AI wouldn't make the sloppy error in logic that you people apparently are making. ;-)
