X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE (2009) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION 

Ryan Reynolds lobbyied for years for the Deadpool movie to be made. I remember when Green Lantern movie was in production, the only thing Ryan Reynolds talked about was Deadpool movie.

It's the continuity stuff that bothers me. This version of Deadpool worked for this particular movie, I think. All of the humor/snark/meta stuff wouldn't have fit the tone very well.

The dumbest person on the planet could have told you that this version of Deadpool was gonna suck. But apparently, someone at Fox couldn’t figure it out.

And he only managed to do that because 'someone' leaked the test-fotage, and it exploded on youtube. There was a similar situation with Sonic. The fans hated the original design of him. But the studio actually listened to the fans and fixed it, while media hated that they were catering to "the toxic fandom". But as Henry Cavill said, the fandoms aren't toxic, their passionate about what they love. Otherwise they wouldn't be fans. That was kind of something George RR Martin also commented on I think. How certain writers/producers can't leave well enough alone, but has to make stories "their own" and "improve" them (ie. ruining the stories). thinking they know better than the actual creators did when they created the stories... It is essentially a matter of to many people in Hollywood and mainstream media suffering from hubris and/or being narcissists.

@@sjuthberg The complete Deadpool experience would've totally overwhelmed this movie. All in all it worked out for the best. He needed a solo movie for a real introduction to the vibe and character. I think they did listen to the fans it just came a bit later with Ryan Reynold's help.

Indeed. I love this movie just for giving us Liev Schreiber as Victor/Sabertooth.

Liev Shreiber is good in everything he's in. Very underrated actor. Spring Forward with him and Ned Beatty is a nice dialogue driven drama.

Yeah. Super versatile actor. So talented!

Even in the lesser films in this franchise, the casting department still knocks it out of the park.

Leiv was also one of the kidnappers in Ransom. He's great at playing terrible characters.

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They don’t remember most of the stuff they watch anyway, they’d be confused regardless

It really is crazy with how many x movies we have had we havent had more than the 1 minute of gambit

As someone who loved the cartoon from the 90s, that's what bothered me about these movies. Just a brief appearance of Gambit and Cyclops wasn't a main character like he should have been. Wolverine is still my favorite X-Men but the rest of the characters were also important.

Channing Tatum almost starred in and produced a Gambit movie for the fox X-Men movies universe but it got canceled when Disney bought fox his rumored to make a cameo in deadpool and wolverine

I agree I know Wolverine is a fan favorite but almost the entire live action is franchise based on him very little shown to the other X-Men

Let's hope that rumor is true that Channing Tatum will have a cameo as a Gambit variant in Deadpool and Wolverine.

Yep

Yep

Yep 😅

Literally me

Yeah.

He was born between 1882 and 1885.

Didn't he fight in the civil war that would be during the 1860s

​@@samellowery The Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. Jimmy and Victor fought in all of the major wars since reaching adulthood (at least in this continuity).

She couldn't remember if Deadpool has powers or was just good with swords. She's not going to remember a dropped line from X1

@@Eidlones Well, that was 4 X-Men movies ago. Plus, she's been watching other movies in between. Give her a break.

He's affected in The Wolverine, though. I won't say anymore than that because they'll probably watch it.

@@Rocket_Man232 In the Logan timeline the food industry genetically modified the foods to weaken and eventually obliterate the mutant x gene. Logan was perfectly fine until the food weakened his healing factor. Before then he was able to simply out heal the poison.

@@w1975b I think the writers just use it as an "as needed" rule. You wouldn't think he could be knocked out for more than a few seconds, but in X1 he gets knocked out for at least a few hours when Sabretooth hits him with a big stick. Haha

@@LoganBluth guess you could say having to fight/heal the adamantium every minute might contribute to a delay in healing other things.

@@w1975b Eh, healing from a brain injury is the same mechanically as healing from lacerations on the skin - You get knocked out when your brain bounces off the inside of your skull causing physical damage to your brain tissue. So Logan's brain tissue repairing itself is no different to his skin healing from massive lacerations. Also, he gets shot in the head in X2 and that only puts him out for a few seconds. Hell, he gets shot literally through the brain in this one and he's only out for a couple of minutes at most. Honestly, the internal continuity of these films, from timelines, to character ages, to how their powers work, are a complete mess, so you just kind of have to go with whatever the current film says and not try to explain previous installments.

i totally agree!

Unfortunately there's the rest of the movie.

And that opening would've made a better movie than the rest of the movie.

I don’t think the rest of the movie is as bad as you guys make it out to be. I will agree in saying that the opening credits war montage is amazing

@@coltonpiper6156 I loved the movie as a kid. This was my first X-men movie. I had a DVD of the movie, watched it over and over again. But now as an adult, after Deadpool and Logan. Nah, this isn't as great as I used to think it was.

At the very least its important because of how the Deadpool movies clown on it lol

This is why I can't dive into these Cape Flick series (Marvel or DC); too much information & too much content that HAS to be seen to understand, lol

*movie series

​@@PauloHernandezXD just take your time and watch them. There's no rush and there aren't a hundred films to watch.

@@louischapman3716 Yeah, I'll be binge watching a lot of stuff this summer. I may add a couple X-Men movies too. This one is the only I've fully watched in its entirety lol

and the actress who played Logan's girlfriend

I swear, “John Carter” wouldn’t have bombed so hard if Disney just advertised it as “Taylor Kitsch jumps around wearing a loincloth and a smile”.

Good to know.

Only big plothole I have with this though is, why didn’t they give the bullets to Agent Zero after. If Stryker was really that smart, he’d have realized to keep them on the most accurate shot marksmen in case things go south and Logan tries anything. Seriously, can you imagine if when he woke up and broke free, Zero shot him with the adamantium bullet?

They say that in the movie. It just isn't in the RU-vid edit.

I think Steve Rogers has that same principal, minus the healing. Drugs don't work on him.

@@osmanyousif7849 it gets sillier when you realise it was just to get their DNA which they could have gotten far easier from his GF who was regularly taking samples nightly lmao

The meteorites in Africa are technically Vibranium. Adamantium is an artificially synthesized alloy intended to be a substitute for the rare Vibranium. Main difference is Vibranium can absorb all vibrational energies, while adamantium is virtually indestructible.

@@timmooney7528 Adamantium was the result of metallurgist Myron MacLain's attempt to reproduce the unknown indestructible vibranium-steel alloy he had developed that became Cap's shield. He wasn't sure exactly what was in in because he'd been working for days and fell asleep during an experiment, and while he was asleep something happened that he could never reproduce. It isn't quite as indestructible as Cap's shield, but _almost._

As far as fans are concerned Deadpool in this movie is not Deadpool they took far to many liberties with the character and within the community that was just unacceptable as he is as beloved as wolverine for many of the same reasons he's a darker more complex character than most in the MCU with a real sense of depth and tragedy rarely seen in superheroes. The version Ryan plays in the standalone movies is far closer to the source material a barely sane immortal who knows he's just a character in a strange story like universe who quite often just wishes he could die.

There's a deleted scene that shows her more prominently during the whole scenario as well

@@timmooney7528 Adamantium is an alloy of Vibranium and Iron. Before someone says "Steel, not Iron" ... Steel is Iron and Carbon.

I get the reference, I've seen Deadpool, but I don't understand how he could "take care" of that version if all versions have truly unlimited healing including from decapitation.

With Sabretooth it's just pure hate (and the feeling is pretty mutual).

In this case it also shows the bond between brothers

Apparently that's how all men are according to these airheads. There are a few movies I could make generalizations of about women as well. Or would that be offensive?

Sabertooth actually tracks down Logan every year on his birthday and kicks his ass. It's like tradition

This

The post credit here doesn't matter, it literally goes nowhere😅

There were two, and it really pissed people off that which credits scene you got depended on which theater you saw it in. The show I went to just had the final scene with Stryker aimlessly wandering. Other people saw the Deadpool scene.

I'm sure they watched it in the full reaction because she always seems to know about those.

@@shanajeangedeon9060 It massively matters for the jokes in the Deadpool franchise.

He was born between 1882 and 1885.

​@@elessartelcontar9415he fought in the American civil war, which ended in like 1865.... so he was born at least in the 1830s.

When Beast calls him "kid" and has no idea. 😂

@@NarwahlGaming “did he just call me ‘boy’?”

That's definitely a ''Carly joins in'' movie.

@@earlbrown 100%

Correct. Wolverine was Weapon X (weapon "10"). Captain America was Weapon I.

*Star-Spangled Man with a Plan intensifies*

And Isaiah Bradley, among other super-soldier experiments before Steve Rogers.

@@NoHandleGrr Bradley was after. Rogers was the original, and only truly "successful" super-soldier. Because Erskine withheld certain key details about the formula and process. All the other Weapon Programs were attempts to replicate Erskine's formula. With varying degrees of success.

Weapon X is Logan. Weapon X-23 is Laura. Weapon X-24 is Logan's clone.

That's what I was thinking, too. I'm a Star Trek fan, myself, and I might have a model Enterprise somewhere, but she has gone full Trekkie. I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted to start going to Star Trek conventions.

When did she made fun of her dad? she mentioned he's a fan and have watched the shows when she was a child, I don't think she made fun of him.

​@@1977rw I have two Enterprise models, TNG's Enterprise-D and the original Enterprise from the Kelvin timeline even a Spock pop figure and a rug of the original USS Enterprise from the original series and the United Federation of Planets along with the American and British Flag in my room along with autographs and photo-ops/selfies from Star Trek actors who I've met even I have two different Starfleet Captain uniforms. I've been to a Star Trek convention in Nashville, Tennessee but I also have been to Comic Con in San Diego, California once even Lexington Comic & Toy Con in Kentucky and often I've been to Fanboy Expo in Knoxville, Tennessee near where I live. Of course I also got Star Wars, DC (especially Superman, Batman, Harley Quinn and Catwoman), Marvel (even Spider-Man and X-Men), Halo, Mass Effect and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles posters all in my room. Lol. I've been enjoying all of Cassie's Star Trek, Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Batman, Superman, X-Men, Spider-Man and the MCU video reactions! 😊

Well, it didn't much to convert her. It was the same with me, due to my eldest sister being a huge fan of Star Trek TOS

Love that movie so much

Another film worthy of a viewing that is way better than common opinion would dictate.

this story is based on a much later graphic novel called "Origins: Wolverine" the early story is very similar, including Victor being his brother.

Wolverine's name is James howlett nickname is Logan or before he forgets his name Jimmy. Logan's brother is Victor Creed AKA sabertooth the same guy who was telling storm to scream in the first X-Men movie.

@@chriswood7632 The comic is just called "Origin" (or sometimes "Wolverine:Origin" or "Origin:The True Story of Wolverine"), and he's not at all related to Sabertooth. His half-brother is Dog Logan.

I'm pretty sure there was a point where it was speculated/rumored/believed that they were brothers in the comics before it was confirmed that they weren't.

@@ieyke you might be right, I stopped reading comics in the early 90's. I saw this and purused it at a comic store much more recently, but I never read it.

Great film!

I forgot about that! And they were also related in that movie (at least in the director's cut).

Different actor and they ignored the whole being Wolverine's brother thing, but they were both in the first X-Men movie too. Victor is the big guy who works for Magneto. The one that isn't Toad or Mystique.

Victor is Sabretooth, they do say his name in the movie.

@@andrewphillips5323 So, Victor (Sabertooth) died in the first X-Men movie? ....wasn't he immortal ??...and he didn't mention being the brother of Wolverine ???

Jason is the kid with different colored eyes (heterochromia) in the freezer.

Was gonna comment on that as well, glad you beat me to it

Only same character by name. It's not Wolverine's brother in X1.

They were attacked by Sabretooth in Alberta, Canada, not Alaska.

@@jkhoover We don't know that for certain. Since this was made after the original trilogy. It's not like they can go back and put in a line in X1 of Sabertooth saying something like. "Hi, brother, miss me?" That is the problem of doing prequels after the fact. Unless Fox were to come along (which they aren't now that the X-Men are moving to the MCU) and say they weren't the same person, they very likely are the same person.

Isn't the no prize explanation that Victor gave in to his animal side - thus the quite more animalistic look and behaviour.

@@jkhoover Bro they literally made a prequel comic for X2 revealing Sabretooth in X1 is Wolverine's brother in Origins.

I didn't know until you just said it lol

This is the first I learned of that.

Well He Is

Not everyone is into the black eyed peas, just like not everyone is into country music or metal. Or even classical music for that matter.

Was their a white cowboy or a yellow cowboy?

They're only watching it once. They also missed the fact you see Stryker's kid on ice. even though the editor definitely knew.

@@johnnybraccia452 yeah I noticed that too XD

@@johnnybraccia452 tbf Stryker’s son is MUCH younger here so can’t really fault them on that one

IIRC in the 2016 film he has an action figure version of Deadpool with the sword blades in his arms.

There's a post credit scene that set up this version of Deadpool(the hate for which makes no sense) to return as an accurate version, but people (including Ryan himself) couldn't be patient and let that happen for some reason.

He definitely wasn't a "long time" fan. Someone told him the comic made a joke about him and that's when he found out about the character. He only started reading DP because he was cast in the movie. He talked about it a lot when the first DP movie was coming out. And it's definitely a "more" accurate DP but it's still wildly off from the actual DP comic.

Stryker was from the 2nd movie.

Victor is a different reimagined Sabertooth. Not the one from the first movie.

@@jkhoover It's still the same character. The Fox X-Men movies have always had horrible continuity.

@@Fable91 Like when Charles can and can't walk for example.

@@Fable91 I believe they are both based on the same character, but in the movies they are two separate ones

That actor, Tyler Mane, was really bummed to not get the role in this film. But he's a wrestler and doesn't have the acting chops of a Liev Schreiber. Schreiber put on 40 pounds of muscle in just over 3 months to play the role.

Yeah it's better to pretend it's 2 separate characters. There's literally no benefit to knowing those are the same characters when in the future sabretooth literally doesn't act the same or even reference a connection. God the Xmen movies are so awful.

@@Garbowhat Well, HALF of them are good and make sense together, and the other half are an incoherent clusterfuck.

@@ieyke I honestly think aside from first class, they are garbage. Incoherence aside, they are just very, very poorly written, with the majority of characters having 0 fleshing out.

He's the best there is at what he does lol

Because of the bonding, he no longer can access his bone marrow. His healing is constantly fighting Aplastic Anemia (can't make new blood cells and platelets).

@@thatHARVguy Coupled with the fact in the Logan timeline the food is genetically modified to damage and attack the mutant x gene, further weakening his healing factor. He was still fully capable of out healing the adamantium poisoning until that happened.

Clearly, very few knew that much about him.

Damn right.

I'd been reading Deadpool for years when this movie came out. That last scene was an outrage.

Same

All the X-Men movies story's and world's were crafted beautifully I wouldn't say I love all of them but I do enjoy watching them

Hot take, but I liked this way more than The Wolverine. Origins is a bit cheesy, but very fun - The Wolverine just stunk imo. (criminally under utilized sequence in the city when all the Ninja's attack him- could have been epic, but ended up so disappointing)

Which makes absolutely no sense.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(comics) The graphic novel this is loosely based on predates the movie by eight years. And Victor has been taunting Logan about them being related since the late 80's.

I don't believe they put the brother connection into the first 3 movies this is why I think this movie is the first to branch off into other x men timelines

In the comics, Victor believed he was Logan's dad. He killed Silverfox on Logan's birthday. Except that he didn't, because it was all memory tricks. Unless it was. But it probably wasn't.

@@royedmonson7033well they’re always tied to each other, but never by blood. That’s been theorized but never proven. There’s a comic where they’re fighting at a time after Logan got all his memories back and he explicitly says “You’re not my father, my brother, or my clone.”

That i get but it goes off the rails, is so cheesy and feels like its not part of any of the other movies..like the Joker movie with DC but just bad unlike Logan which is pretty much the same but good...

Missing a couple of Jokes is probably the better choice. I'm sure there are many viewers that didn't understand "Happy Womens Day" who still enjoyed Deadpool.

The jokes aren't integral to the Deadpool movies. Its like all the comic references that 99% of people who watch comic movies will never understand because they don't actually read comics. Its the same people who say Hugh is wolverine when in fact almost every single thing about Hugh is the polar opposite of wolverine.

@@garydodd2837 yeah it didn’t feel like they put any effort making it a legit prequel- it doesn’t match up with what we learn about the character in the other movies.

​@@Motorheadache95he ahi la gracia del multuverso. Hacer una prlicula que no tiene que ser precuela ni secuela. Para que los guonista no se rompan la cabeza buscándole una conexión entre historias. Los de rapido y furioso no lo ebtendieron y revivieron a todos los personajes.

Half Brothers makes more sense.

Wasn't the idea that Dog Logan and Sabretooth were to be one and the same, but it was later abandoned to keep Sabretooth's air of mystery? I think (probably incorrectly) that, as of the most recent continuity I am aware of, Logan killed Sabretooth's sister prompting the latter to seek revenge.

It's one of those things that is up to the readers to decide, because it's obvious the writers can't/won't tell.

@@spiderrico4410 I don't think they planned to make them the same, rather that it was meant to be a red herring from the start.

I mean batman 89 was done like that and it's considered a classic, so you tell me.

That wasn't the problem. It was just a bad movie. 90's direct to video type action movie.

It's not that they didn't read any comic books, it's that they used elements from comics that aren't well known.

Lol, when? They still do make movies without reading the source material.

I haven't read any of the comic books, so I enjoy superhero movies the way the writers and directors created them.

Barakapool

So Cyclops' birth must have been wild. I assume he didn't open his eyes in the womb!

@@elessartelcontar9415 I think they changed things for the movies to show that mutations manifest at some childhood age.

@@jaybling6687 No changes. Mutation always occurred at puberty in the comics too, triggered by the same hormone dump.

@@elessartelcontar9415 Mutant powers don’t manifest until around puberty or after so he was born normally.

5 yrs later

Liev in Goon. Or Liev in RKO 281.

?? Same character.

@@fu6817 Yep. Same character, just different actors. Just like how both Rebecca Romaine Stamos and Jennifer Lawrence play Mystique.

And he can't act for shit

gambit is STILL My x-men crush and i'm 42... *SIGH* he made my teenage girl heart melt in the 90s cartoon

Never liked Gambit.

He's my favorite X-Man

Hell no! I would never want to be the kind of douchebag that refers to himself in the third person.

If you are so powerful that you have part of your brain removed to control it , you can refer to yourself however you like. REMEMBER IT!

I like most of the audience don't read superhero comics. I know the basics of a number of the classic super heroes, but don't know the varied story lines over the years. I had never heard of Deadpool until the movies came out. So whatever happened in the comic books is irrelevant to my enjoyment of the movies.

Wolverine killed his real father when he was 13. His mother was so repulsed by it that he ran away immediately.

It would have been canon if people (including Ryan himself) hadn't had whatever issues they had with the version of Deadpool used in this movie.