@@phillipbotello6886 Logan's girlfriend tells him this long boring story about wolverines howling at the moon. But wolverines don't howl. They're not in any way related to wolves. They're a totally different animal. They're not even canines. Wolverines are in the same family as weasels.
Yeah, wolverines are like a cross between a badger and a weasel but larger than both. The "Wolv" part of their name doesn't mean they are wolves just as Polecats aren't cats.
A James rant is always entertaining but the rare Mason rant is always an instant classic: "I'm like a man on his deathbed slowly realizing he's seen the faces of his co-workers more than the faces of his children. But in this case, my co-workers is the movie 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' and my children is all my cool jackets that I can't wear currently because I'm in this little room"
Speaking of Tom Rothman Remember that leaked Deadpool test footage that eventually became the Deadpool Movie? DP ends it waving to the camera saying “Hi Tom!” That’s Ryan Reynolds taunting Tom Rothman who denied a Deadpool movie for years. While at Fox Rothman was also responsible for Galactus being a cloud. He’s the current head of Sony pictures. He’s the one running SPUMM. Venom, Morbius, Madam Web, Kraven. All Rothman.
Amazing how one man can be responsible for so many bad decisions. You'd think eventually just by the law of averages he'd have a good one but no, it's just L after L with him isn't it?
The thing that annoys me about these movies is that the X-Men movies already were Wolverine movies, to a fault. The first movie bends over backwards to make Wolverine the main character and frame it through his perspective.
I mean Hugh is awesome but you’re right, they just took the one character people associate with the X-Men and made the rest of the characters extras. It’s also just laziness, it’s easier to just make movies about the guy with knives on his hands than a lady who controls the weather or a dude who shoots lasers from his eyes.
That’s because Wolverine has always been one of Marvel’s fattest cash cows. Easily the most popular X-Men character in the 90’s when the films were first pitched. Why WOULDN’T they make him the central character?
I'm glad you told me why I thought you had already covered this like five times before, I thought I had been reverse shot in the head with adamantium bullets and was remembering things that hadn't happened.
Having worked on the X-Men Origins: Wolverine Uncaged game at Raven Software, I can tell you that the script wasn't really finished when we were developing it. We had a level with Gambit in a Las Vegas hotel, which wasn't in the movie (as well as a Sentinel level), but then we had to change the location of the hotel casino level from Vegas to New Orleans, because they decided to put Gambit in the movie as well. I worked on the storyboards for the intros for hte levels so we had to base it off of the script that we were sent. I remember storyboard the Silver Fox moon scene and how to make it not be too costly for us to make in game. Great to see Lynn Collins and Taylor Kitsch make it to John Carter. Too bad you didn't cover the game in this video. We were quite proud of it and people thought it was better than the movie it was based off of which was the reverse of what video games based on movies were at the time.
@@krono5el TBF, our levels and game play and bad guys may have gotten a bit one note after a bit, but it was fun Bing a part of the team. I really remember when they had me test out the lock on feature and then you could launch Logan at an enemy, which really made the combat a bit more fast paced. The regeneration was a lot of fun and the OTT kills was great too, showing what a guy with claws can do.
I love how the cartoon and comics treat his memory loss like implanted memories. Like he was actually a monster beforehand but he’ll never fully know. They even hinted to it in X2 when Stryker tells him he was always an animal. Then you get here and you get none of that.
Exactly. I much prefer the idea that Logan was a morally ambiguous killer before his amnesia. Joining the X-Men gave him a second chance at being a decent person and even a hero.
@@DarkKingHades to be fair it literally shows Logan fighting in Five major conflicts in the world, which classifes him as an extremely aggressive killer. the whole reason for his PTSD in the movie is because he's conflicted with what he had to do in the war and whether or not it makes him a monster
@@JKissoon1 I was like Huh I guess he's been wearing that in all the films? Yet they treat it with the reverence of Darth Vader donning his mask for the first time.
I’ve seen every X-men movie multiple times, expect origins which I just now watched for the first time, and I never before noticed he was always wearing the same jacket
Actually canonically after this movie, Gambit finds a home locks himself inside for about 3 months curled up, formed a cocoon, transformed into Channing Tatum and was never seen again.
MVP of this, without a doubt, Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth, he is terrific in this otherwise shit ass shitty movie. Disappointed that he’s seemingly not returning for Deadpool & Wolverine.
He should’ve been the villain in LOGAN instead of doing the evil clone trope. Especially because they could’ve paid off the “If anyone kills you it’s gonna be me!” line from this movie.
@@mattgilbert7347 He was the kid that played young Wolverine in this movie, so technically he's the only other live action portrayal of the character alongside Hugh Jackman.
I had a full blown argument with a guy I went to school with about this film after we saw Logan together and he claimed that it wasn’t as good as this film. Was a stupid argument between two 15 year olds but I genuinely haven’t spoken to that guy since. Hubert Jackman’s hair is pretty good in this though
Another good thing that came out of the Xmen Origins: Wolverine movie is the video game adaptation. Nothing but Logan hacking and slashing bad guys with blood.
I want to believe that at some point in the 90s, Logan just had a bad sneeze and the two adamantium bullets inside his skull shot out with lethal force and killed a couple of guys. Hire me, Marvel
I think Wolverine has an adamantium coated skeleton, not an adamantium skeleton. So if you shot through his skull, the bone would still heal, it just wouldn't have the adamantium layer on it anymore
@@logandh2 not necessarily people who have metal or other foreign object injuries that are lodged in them often have bone heal around them although not in their proper original position. Is there any reason to believe Logans bones with his healing powers wouldn't heal around a small indentation?
I think really we’re supposed to assume that the adamantium also heals. Wolverine gets his metal claws cut off in The Wolverine, but he has them back later in Logan and other X-Men movies chronologically set after The Wolverine.
When we first got married, my wife bought me the DVD of this movie for Xmas “because I like x-men movies”. It wasn’t a joke gift… just my Xmas gift. I was so annoyed, I bought her the DVD of “Observe and Report”the next Christmas because she “likes shopping”. Each subsequent year we kept buying eachother DVDs that we thought the other would hate but ultimately stopped when (several years later) she bought me the Director’s cut of “Team America” and a) I enjoyed it, and b) she was horrified by *that one scene. 😂
Little known fun fact: Beast was originally considered for one of the brief cameos, but he would’ve been mostly cgi. They realized it would be too expensive and time consuming to accomplish his furry blue appearance, so the idea was scrapped. They had already started on very basic designs, so they had to track down every file and sketch to get rid of to avoid it being leaked. This resulted in the movie being given the working title Blue Harvest. Coincidentally, that was also the working title for Star Wars Episode 6 Return of the Jedi
@InconsequentialVoiceintheCrowd A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So, we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anybody who traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a Trivierine. The bandit had been throwing them away.
Growing up in Pennsylvania, I remember learning about Three Mile Island around the same time that this movie came out. So I’ll always have this skewed memory of Hugh Jackman causing Three Mile Island nuclear meltdown.
Maso is completely right about the bullet holes in his skull, which I’m glad Logan answered, when you shoot through metal it doesn’t just punch a hole, it warps the metal. So the adamatium around the holes would’ve bent inward and kept those holes from ever closing, which is exactly what happened to X-24, Laura blew the top of his head off and now that bit of his skull can’t ever grow back, which is how it successfully killed him.
Don't quote me 'cause I can't remember where I read it, but I think he can heal the adamantium since his body thinks is they way it should be or smth like that, I think they explained it after magneto take his adamantium. But IDK if is something I made up as a memory or is true. Oh, no, I found it: Wolverine's healing factor caused a change in the molecular structure of the metal. It's the only known occurrence of adamantium beta. It allows things like bone marrow and other substances to pass through the metal to maintain his life functions, as well as allowing the healing factor to heal the metal.
Even without the adamantium healing thing, won't just his original cranial skull just regenerate in its place just like his bone claws in the next film when his adamantium claws got sliced off his bone claws grew back in place
I think the way the movie was trying to justify that scene is that the bullets aren't going through his skull, but the force of them is concussing his brain at just the right point to damage the memory center of his brain. Granted, that is giving the movie infinitely more benefit of the doubt than it ever deserves that the writers would actually think beyond copying a comic panel or a storyboard note.
They could have avoided that whole issue by shooting him in the eye. Bullet goes in bounces around inside his skull brain turns to mush and when it heals his memories are all scrambled up.
@@jeroti187 I want to say that happens in Messiah Complex in the comics. Not the memory bit but the bullet in the eye and just bouncing around in his skull parts do. It was definitely a Marauder that did it but it might not have been Messiah Complex.
Remember how the workprint leaked on April Fool's Day? Some (fools) legit thought it was a prank and that there was no way the final movie could be that bad.
This was such a missed opportunity I thought Jackman and Schreiber had solid chemistry, the whole Wolverine and Sabretooth as siblings is a good change and made intuitive sense to me. That montage in the beginning with him and Sabertooth fighting through the various wars should've been the film and you end at WW2, which is where the main arc of The Wolverine kicks off. The focus would them growing apart because of them differently thinking about humans (foreshadowing X vs Magneto) with the whole brotherhood retcon. Making the main plot and climax of the film be a unique front like say the Russo Japanese theater leading up to end of the war and the 2 atomic strikes, with Wolverine having to take on both Sabretooth and Omega Red in a three way to save some people surviving the Nagasaki blast. Xmen but with Barefoot Gen/Graveyard of the Fireflies type narrative that leads into the events of The Wolverine.
Everyone knows that the effects are really shonky but the one that really infuriates me is when wolverine uses his new claws to slice an X all the way through the metal doors. He creates 4 chunks of metal in the middle of the X that aren’t connected to anything and they don’t fall. They just hover in the middle of the X and I really hate it.
The implication that being shot in the head erases Logan's memories adds a weird wrinkle to the montage at the start. Either throughout those DECADES of war, Logan never got shot in the head **OR** every couple days he forgot everything and had to be rebooted 50 First Dates style by Sabertooth. Which would explain why Sabertooth went CRAZY by the end because he had to keep teaching his brother everything about his life every 6 hours for 100 years
he gets shot with an adamantium bullet which erases his memories, he can heal from being shot in the head with a normal bullet (which he does in X2 i think)
@@stargirl32102 But the only reason they needed an adamantium bullet was to get through the metal skull. Before he had the metal skull, a regular bullet could theoretically scramble his memories, according to this movie
ever think about how for years/decades the 3rd installment of any comic book movie franchise was cursed. Superman III, Batman Forever, Spider Man 3, Blade III, Iron Man 3, X3- It goes on... BUT the Wolverine/Logan series did it backwards. Here the first is the worst and the last is the best...go figure lol
I remember getting out of this at the theater and being like "okay so that was literally just a worse version of everything we already knew happened from the first two x men films"
Honestly, I don't hate this movie. Yes, some of the effects are terrible for some reason. But first off, I think Liev Schreiber is great, and I rather have had him back than original Sabretooth in Deadpool 3. Also, I did not mind how they handled Deadpool, because I just saw him as a completely different character than the comic book version. When you do that, and see him as a new character, he kinda works as a terrifying enemy with all the powers he has. Don't get me wrong, he is not amazing, but as a clean slate character, it kinda works in my opinion. Also, Taylor Kitsch is a great choice as Gambit, and this is the only live action movie that even has Gambit in it. And I also rather see him return than Channing Tatum, but I guess if we see Gambit, we will see Tatum rather than Kitsch or Austin Butler for that matter (who is born to play Gambit in my opinion).
My question is how does the adamantium coat all his bones contours perfectly but the bone claws, which don't have a blade edge, somehow grow a blade edge when they get coated?
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose first experience with this film was an unfinished leak. My uncle gave me the DVD, not knowing that it was unfinished. Me and my sister watched the whole thing and laughed whenever we saw any unfinished goofy effects. Whenever I think of this film, I remember the shoddy leaked version rather than the intended version
My step dad argued back and forth with me that "that wasn't Deadpool at the end" with the weapon x program. Even around the time with the first Deadpool in 2016 and the Easter with the action figures fighting, he still wouldn't admit it
I love when James finds something funny and just runs the bit into the ground and then through the ground and just keeps going until anyone else finds it funny. And the moment anyone else enjoys the bit he drops it forever. It's probably what keeps me here
Whoa Mason got so close this time, I can't believe he missed out on this week's prize. Better luck next time I guess Also I served Scott Adkins a latte one time. He's a cool guy
I had the workprint of this. Was absolutely the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Me and my mate were stoned, and the bit when the plane hit the church in the WW2 bit of the opening montage made us laugh so hard that we almost died.
It’s a terrible movie, but I really enjoy it, it’s so damn funny. And it’s so memorable. I like The Wolverine but it isn’t that memorable. It really needed an R rating and I’ve not seen the R rated cut.
Slight clarification: if you seek out the video game, make sure you get the Mature 17+ version, with real bloodshed and realistic wounds and healing factor, it's pretty awesome.
I remember laughing so hard in the theater during this film. The CG is so terrible. The only, sort of, good thing I can say is that Liev is OK as Sabertooth. Going into Weapon X stuff is fantastic...seeing Wolverine as a kid will never not suck.
I love when Wolverine asks for new dog tags while he's already on the table and the procedure is about to begin like, is there a dog tag pressing machine off to the side of the MASSIVE operation room? Did they not have time to include an operator for the dog tag pressing machine?? Hoping to see Liev Schieber in Deadpool X Wolverine 🤞🤞🤞
The comics do sort-of explain the bullet hole thing, his healing factor affects the adamantium on his skeleton and causes it to heal alongside his body. Unfortunately, Logan would probably have those bullets in his brain forever unless someone managed to retrieve them (which could work with Magneto or Jean Grey, but it'd risk him losing more memories if done improperly).
The actress who played silver fox said her original death was her walking into a lake and drowning herself in guilt from what she did to Logan , and it was all shot on film. The studio later made them reshoot her death to what we got.
I agree the game is awesome. I wish they could have continued making more games, prequel, and spin-off for the Wolverine Origins game. I hope they can remake or remastered the game for Xbox Series X and somehow add easter eggs with the movie Deadpool & Wolverine movie
Hindsight is 20/20. This should have been a prequel trilogy or a sequel trilogy. The fact that they had the misfortune of spending one film on his origin lead to crimes like skimming through all those wars which would’ve been great to see fleshed out.
“We are releasing origin films, we start with wolverine, then gambit and more” Wolverine fails “We cancelled the other origins films and instead will make another wolverine one” Public “what?”
As an 8 year old this movie was the coolest thing I ever saw. Obviously not a great movie but it hold a special place for me. I think I’ve watched this movie like 10 times
In trivia, it would have been worth mentioning that originally Kodi Smit-McPhee had been chosen as the young Logan, years later he played the nightcrawler.
I was not expecting a clip from Sam & Max Hit the Road in this video and I am so glad it was there!! Even better, not only was a it a clip of a 90s game to illustrate the point about a 90s game... it was the clip from the 90s game where the characters play a 90s game!
I gotta say, thought they did a pretty damn good job with Blob. They could have CGI'd him, but he was all practical and that scene is still fun to watch.
I heard that they originally wanted to deviate from the comics by making Logan come from an agricultural background, like the Kents in Superman. He would have used his bone claws to thresh wheat fields in no time, and the muscle memory would have remained as he emerged from the liquid in the Weapon X experimentation pod, giving the film its working title of Blue Harvest.
