Great Vid!!! I love the autopilot work. Thanks. But I think the standard procedure for a stabilized approach in a typical 172 is to reduce power to around 1800 rpm. Slow to white arc. 10% flaps. Trim for 70 knots. Then more flaps and trim to 65 knots. Once you have stabilized approach, small adjustments in power will control rate of decent.
I'm new to this, but I want to go for realistic procedures and flights... what resource would you use to find out specific information (i.e. RPM, speeds) for a specific aircraft? Does X-Plane come with this documentation? Thanks in advance!
I think that your flaps normally broke away at 115kts. You have to stay within the white arc wich is the flaps operatin speed. So, first set the speed in the white arc, then lower the flaps.
@@thicc800ty No offense...but both you guys are wrong... go to, Section 2 Limitations, Cessna POH, page 2-1... 110 KIAS flaps 10. I extend 10 flaps when I do standard rate procedure turns etc. Gives one a little extra stall speed comfort zone.
lol noobs landing with flaps. Haven't you watched Airforceproud95? Proper landing procedure is firewall it into the runway. Failing that, the next best option is to stall half way down the runway from 100ft.
Thanks for the video. Just getting back in the air after 17 years off and I'm going to use Xplane11 to refamiliarize with the aircraft/navigation, etc.
Me, too. I'm only at the step to get the X-Plane acquired and set up with controls. Meanwhile I'm flying with the mouse pad and it is a major pain. But, learning all of this equipment and the models/features that I would hope to be in an aircraft that I purchase and of course to prep for an all new IFR rating. How is your venture going?
You are correct about the dangers of using Vertical Speed for autopilot ascents. I use FLC for ascents, and Vertical Speed for descents only. This helps mitigate the risk of stalling on an ascent. When you get distracted (and you will someday), the vertical speed autopilot on the ascent will put you into a stall. Don't do it if you want to follow best practices, and not die.
Hey love your videos. They have given me the head start that I needed to really get into X-Plane 11 in a big way. I have, however, run into an odd issue that you might be able to shed some light on. When I land using the method demonstrated here, the autopilot consistently brings me in to the right of the runway. I appear to be dead on with the glide slope and everything works perfectly but without exception, I have to take manual control and steer back to the left in order to hit the runway. I tried it five times today since watching your video - even replicating your scenario and everything went just as it did in the video except that I was heading for the grass to the immediate right of the runway. Same thing when did it on 33R at Pearson.
Synch your directional gyro to your compass. Also, you need to set your OBS to the runway heading. Note that this video is a year or more old and does not reflect updates to X-Plane (which now mimics the real-world AP).
Great ! I am a complete newbie at simulators,(although I have lost count of the number of real-world flights over the years) but jumped in the deep end and purchased xP 11. You have a new subscriber...I now have to kill a few hours looking at your other videos.
What I do is use VS to get to the target altitude, then I zero it as it gets to the desired height. Then I switch to ALT. Then there's no problem with the VS dial setting throwing your altitude off if you have to switch back to it. More importantly, when you're using ALT, any change in the altimeter settings will not throw off your altitude. If you leave it on VS, a big change in the altimeter setting will have you at the wrong altitude and the ATC is liable to get on your case.
I'm glad that you already know your stuff before making instruction videos. I've wasted countless hours watching people fumble through the menus while they learn how to use the sim. Good job, I'll keep watching yours. BTW, I have FSC9 and am wondering if there is a way to convert their PLN files to FMS.
. Tony Merlot Sadly, you will need a pretty beefy computer..Need NVidia GTX 1080 to even begin to get a decent frame rate. XP 11 reflections are a real drain and you can't turn them off. I still use XP 10.5... works fine for Instrument flying... etc.
Jason, nice job on the instruction. I would like to provide a memory aid pilots use in aircraft as well as simulators. Aviate, navigate and communicate, Aviate, your first responsibility is to fly the aircraft, stay within the flight limitations of the aircraft. Navigate, fly the heading, altitude and airspeed, Communicate is last on the list. The overhead view on the chart shows the localizer, a part of the ILS system, and the normal approach speed for an instrument approach in a Cessna 172 would be 70K. Of course if you have a 757 behind you, approach control will ask you to be pick up your speed if possible. More than once I flew ILS approaches above normal cruise A/S. A good setting for cruise power in level flight on a standard day (29.92 hg and 15 C) is around 2500 RPM. While discussing the autopilot and leveling off at 2500 ft. you hit redline on the tach. Your flaps would not have broken away because your A/S was above 115K, there is a huge safety factor that goes into the design of these aircraft but it brings me back to Aviate, Navigate and then communicate.. Hope this helps you out on any future videos, keep up the good work on explaining things to new sim pilots.
How do you disengage the autopilot when you cancel IFR? OK, I just found the answer I was looking for. The disengage button is the red button on the yoke. I have to give these tutorials a 9 out of 10 because small details like this are omitted.
Fantastic really informative and slow and easy to understand can’t thank you enough. Some shortcut assignment buttons would be good for the stick rgds M
Glad I googled this. I didnt know the steam gauge 172 even had an autopilot. I've put about 50 hours in to that plane on the sim and did it all by hand. Didnt even see the box below the transponder.
Trim is the poor man's autopilot 😃 . The C152 I trained on, to get my PPL was extremely bare-bones. Most of the 172s at my flight school don't have an AP either.
Love your video - a great way to learn about the X-plane autopilot. However, I think you might have lost your flaps at around 11:30 - IRL we have to lower the speed until the white arc before extending flaps. Also, the engine might not enjoy running at full RPM the entire time ;-)
Each aircraft can be different in its limitations in the POH pilot operating handbook, but most 172's allow first set of flaps 10° at 110 knots and below, the remaining flaps you have to be within the white art also the reverse REV on the GPS is to fly the reverse course of an ILS or LOC localizer on take off or go around it's not meant to turn you around and take you back to where you were.. Also typically with maximum weight, Cruise climb is around 80 knots with a vertical speed of anywhere from 6 to 900 ft per minute depending on atmospheric conditions and altitude, it can vary greatly. Cruise throttle sittings very as well but typically 2100 to 2400 RPM leaning the fuel mixture above 3000 MSL to peak EGT then increase mixture 5 to 10 present to avoid pre-ignition or detonation in the motor. As well on takeoff depending on gross weight atmospheric conditions especially air density and altitude, rotation speed on take off is typically between 50 and 60 knots. Like I said most of this is good stuff and good enough for flight simulator just not entirely accurate.. Sincerely, Private Pilot 172 Skyhawk N9823L
Very clear and helpful tutorial, I'm a total beginner trying to learn and this has helped me get started, thx a lot you've earned a sub. I'll be checking out your other videos too.
Thanks for the video Jason. The AP in the Airfoil Labs 172sp is far superior and more realistic B/K KAP 140. The default AP in X-plane 172 has a annoying searching wobble at times, and as you mentioned the "alt" function is goofy. For $35 it is well worth it. The AFL 172sp only has 430, but in the real world you will not train in a 172sp with both 530 and 430, or Garmin 1000 glass, it would cost too much. The 430 and 530 work almost identical anyways. BTW I don't work for AFL. Would be nice to see your videos with AFL 172sp, Also....nice to see XP 11 with LPV approach...finally... As a "thank You" for your videos you can download the POH for Cessna 172sp from my site for free. It has an "linked" TOC PDF etc. FYI and others the FE speed limitations are 110 KIAS with 10degree of flaps. Check out POH Section 2 Limitations, page 2-4. One way to end the debate about any procedure is the POH. I noticed quite a few are wrong about FE flaps 10 in this comment section. Go to free www.cloudniner.org Also I have linked TOC on all the free FAA manuals and they are free to download on my site... Thanks Again
Helpful for figuring out the A/P's "switch-ology". It would have helped to mention "decision height" and when you disconnected from the A/P (found it sliding back and forth in the video);
I'm brand new to flight Sims and X Plane 11, so your instructional videos have really helped take the frustration out of the steep learning curve. What monitor size and resolution do you use?
I guess this needs to be updated a bit. There is no AP button (on/off) on the auto pilot in XP’s C172. I hope we can map a keyboard key or joystick button to turn on / off AP.
It's simple. The directional gyro has a tendency to drift as time goes by. You simply turn the left knob clockwise or counterclockwise until the DG (directional gyro) matches the aircraft's compass. The heading bug is positioned by using the right knob. Language, please!
I have tried to mimic this so many times but it does not work. Either your are not telling us something or a newer version broke this system. The second you add flaps the AP approach no longer works. This means that you must be as full flaps prior to intercepting the glide slop which really does not make any sense. If I simply don't add flaps to the situation, it follows the glide slop perfectly. Add flaps then forget it. Automatic stall and AP quits following glide slop after it recovers.
here are some questions : 1 - had you took the control when you were touching the ground ? or the AP land the airplane? if yes when? 2 - Have you used flaps more than 10 at any point of this flight? what were your flaps value when you touch the ground?
ahhhhh don'tchya love the technicalities, the minor nuances if you will.....good pickin Luxthill….aaaah…… theres how many ways to land, LOL.....its never the same
This auto pilot approach to Toronto. Was it all the way to wheels down or did you like so many others go manual at the end? I have to say your tutorials are by far the best.
great video i am new to plane and would like to know how to start my flight from the same position each flight for example how do i rapidly reload my position like say a 3 mile final to the same airport to practice approach and landing. thanks much
Great vid!! I've been noticing the same thing when landing at Billy Bishop (City Center)......where the heck is our beautiful CN Tower??? Don't tell me it's a scenery plug-in that we have to purchase :/
Hi Jason, I watched this video to try to find how to switch the C172 autopilot ON - because there's no 'AP' button on my Xplane 172. It seems it's always on, but I learned stuff from your video anyway. Also, I noticed you deployed flaps above the white arc as Luxthill pointed out in a stepwise fashion.
when you select nav and apr, what controls rate of speed? I've tried this twice and I overshoot the path.. not sure what is going wrong.. also, I am using hdg and alt before I get lined up and then I'm switching over to Nav and apr...
@@octaviaboykins2197 See Jason's new upgraded video regarding this.....you now must assign a button on your joystick for this task for the upgraded AP/GPS.
Hi Jason hope you are alive and well. On my simulator version of X-Plane 11 at the bottom of my radio stack where I should have an AP button mine has HDG button instead. None of autopilot videos I've looked show this configuration, thought you might know why, thanks.
XP 172 OK for beginners. If you are serious about 172 flying, you are better off spending $35 and purchasing Airfoil Labs 172 that has a more realistic AP Bendix/King KAP 140. Sorry, The REV button is the back course of an ILS approach without the vertical guidance, flown like a localizer. I don't work for AFL or receive compensation
And something you should remind: it appears he didn't turn the airplane damage on in options. Otherwise, you will see him crash because he's over the safe speed to deploy Flaps.
Hi, I have XPlane 11 and did the same procedure as you did and the 172 landed on the highway. When I put the 172 , 10Km from the runway it is pointing to around 60 deg radial. Not like your plane did pointing towards 80 deg radial. What is wrong with my system.
When setting up your navigation and you put in the destination airport, Will that line you up directly with the airport OR will it line you up with a landing ILS path? I'm guessing it will not line you up? In which case, what is the normal practice to use the navigation so that when setting a destination, you enter in on a route that's already lined up with an ILS on your desired runway? Thanks for the great videos!
Thank you Jason, very, very informative. Is there a way to set the altitude via the dial on the gage, let’s say 3000 feet ? Can that be dialed in having the plane climb to that preset altitude, then autopilot it to hold that height ?
Great explanation! I do have a question though... I tuned the nav 1 radio to the VOR frequency, set to NAV then once in the air set the autopilot to NAV. I just kept going in the same direction and the autopilot did not correct the course to the VOR that was set. Then turned off the NAV on the autopilot and flew a circle to see if the needle would center once I was pointed in the right direction and they did not move. Is there one more step after entering in the VOR freq to set it in the system?
great video, very helpful for those of us that are entirely new to fltsim xplane 11. My S-TEC like AP does not have an on/off button.. how do I activate/deactivate it? Thanks for a great video...
