X32/M32 MultiTrack Recording AND Virtual Soundcheck | Tracks Live 

scenes saved from an older firmware can be reloaded after the update with a more recent firmware ?

Yes! Ask me how I know. Lol I had start from scratch when I updated mine before I saved anything.

I learned this the hard way… the new firmware deleted everything!! I did save all my scenes to a USB drive but the new firmware would not recognize that there was anything on the USB… I ended up having to download Behringer X32 Edit software onto a computer, then upload my saved scenes to it, then export it back to the mixer from the Edit App…. It took me many phone calls and a loong time to figure it out.

What about Presets? What happens to them?

Awesome. Thanks for the encouragement.

Thanks for the encouragement and blessings.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Thanks for the encouragement.

I’m glad it was helpful

Thanks for the encouragement. It’s amazing how God can use technology to educate his people to further the Gospel.

I couldn’t agree more.

Yes, this is just one benefit of living in the digital world.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Thank you for sharing you are such an asset in The kingdom. The church is getting better.

Thanks for the encouragement.

I’m glad you found a little nugget in this video.

Good job pulling out the small details... and continuing to enhance your skills. I discuss gain structure and some of the common challenges in this video here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--RjP3IKFfqM.html

What portion of the video was this?

You can change the routing so that the signal out of the card IS post fader and includes eq and dynamics. I changed mine for recording so I could use some shelving on certain mics. Drew Brashler did a video on how to change it.

Thanks for the encouragement. Let me know if you have other questions.

Let me know if you have other questions. Here is another video that talks through the virtual soundcheck settings ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sIhlKD1zbHk.html

I have not spent any time in Logic Pro for recording so I do not have specific answers to offer, but I would start with your gain on the console. Make sure you have a solid gain structure set per input where it shows between -18 and -12dB on the input meter. This should give you a solid signal coming into the DAW to work with on or off the console. Outside of that, I am not familiar with the AIIF format, but if you still have issues you might look to switch to a more standard .WAV file. I don't think the file type should change the playback, but it might be worth looking into. Good luck with the hunt, please let us know what you find out.

Yes, you want to set the gain properly and it will impact everything (house, stream, multitracks). Here is a video I posted that talks about gain structure and it’s impact. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--RjP3IKFfqM.html

Assuming you have the USB cable plugged in properly, check this video which discusses some settings on both Mac and PC that you might need to check. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBHxLNjcZzo.html

The USB slot on the top of the console (next to the screen) will only record a 2-track. The X-USB slot will allow you to multitrack into a DAW (on a computer) or you could go with the X-Live card which does offer multitracking onboard to the SD slot.

Easiest way to work with the ATEM mini is to route your stream mix to go out AUX 5&6 on the back of the console. Then, get a 1/4” to 1/8” TRS cable and plug in the 1/4” to the console (AUX 5&6) and the 1/8” to your ATEM mini

It is on version 4.0 and later. You will find it in the Routing > Input. It is the right-most encoder. ‘Rec’ is for normal service. ‘Play’ is for virtual playback from the computer.

Yes, you want to make sure that the signal that sends your tracks back into the console are at zero. For me (in Presonus StudioOne) I use a Pre-Fader send for each channel that I set at 0 so that the entire signal I received from the console to the DAW will now go back to the console. This allows me to properly set my compression and stream levels knowing that my gain structure is pretty accurate.

This sounds like your outputs in Tracks Live are not mapped properly. I would go into the preferences and check the outputs.

Yes, the USB slot on top of the console is a standard 2-track recorded and has selectable settings if you hit the view button right next to it. The X-USB card on the back is designed to offer the multitrack capability which could be setup to just do the same as the USB slot on top if desired.

I believe this can be setup for DAW control, but it is very limited in its capabilities. The X-touch is probably an easier (and less expensive) tool. I’ve heard the WING is a much better DAW controller that is also a full console, but have always done my automation by hand.

This specific program only allows you to record (that I am aware of). I personally use Presonus StudioOne which is a fully functional DAW and will allow you to pinch in other items. You would save your tracks and then you could run them back through the console and just have a specific mic set to re-record and have your own studio setup.

I’m not really sure I understand the issue fully, but it is hard to say without watching it happen. The console does offer the ability to setup have different input for a channel regardless of the “fader number” that is listed in the order on the board. There is also different routing capabilities within the card outs, card returns, and in a DAW (if you are using that to record). I do offer private consultations in case you would find that helpful. Feel free to fill out my contact card on my website at sounds.AllamHouse.com

You would need to use a real DAW (not TracksLive) and do a setup similar to this where you are pushing your mix back into the DAW so you can hear it in your monitors or headphones. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KpZpsO_l4Qs.html

First, Studio One does not come with sample multitracks. You will want to setup to record from your band, or find some in other places online. Second, it seems like you are deep into routing and I hope this might help explain it a little bit. You have audio coming in from sources (mics, guitars, etc) and those will get routed on the input tab of the routing page. On this same page, you can have a different setup to play back your tracks from a computer into the board for you to remix. This is separate from any livestream you might be sending through your AUX bus. Then you can page over in the routing page and get to the Card Out section. This is where you need to understand the current goal OR make one situation that could work most of the time. To Record, you need to have your sources mapped to go out 1-32 and you should have an extra 8 that could be mapped to your AUX bus to allow you to record that audio as well. Then, when you playback, you will have to route the recorded AUX bus to some actual faders. Tracks Live is the easiest way to setup/capture tracks 1-32. Studio One will be an additional layer of routing to have to learn and coy get way of teach/training

Make sure you have "monitoring" turned on within the DAW. Each DAW is different, but usually there is a button on each fader (near a button to arm for recording) that will allow you to turn on monitoring.

I was working with a church last night that is using Ableton. I was not as involved with the actual DAW setup, but I did see a few things in the process. (1) we had to make sure that the driver was running and it had an address to show connectivity to the X32. (2) make sure the X-USB card is selected in the audio card area of the properties. (3) setup your tracks and for input choose ‘ext’ and then you should have a drop down for the 32 inputs from the X32. Choose the one you want to map to that channel in your DAW (4) do the same thing for the outputs.

The cable used here is a USB 2.0. I just did a short Q&A that covered the type of cable you need to connect from your console to a computer. You can find that here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EwWBYPgSXwE.html In theory a 50' cable is the limit, but I have never tried going that long. I know they make USB 2.0 with a signal booster, but you might have to look into a converter to go from USB to Cat5 and back to USB (potentially). Good luck

Are you in Windows or MAC?

What type of computer are you on (Windows or MAC)? If it is a Windows machine you need to have the X-USB driver installed to make sure the computer recognizes the soundboard.

On a PC you will need to download the driver for X-USB. You can find this on Behringer’s website by searching for X32, click on the full-size console, scroll down and look on the right for software. There are usually two driver options and either should work for you.

If it is only doing channel 1/2 on playback from the DAW to the console means the DAW is sending only the Main mix back to the console so you need to go into the settings and set your outputs to be individual channels instead of just the main stereo mix.

You need to do the following steps: (1) Go into Routing > Card and set Card 1-16 to AES50 1-16 and Card 17-32 to local 17-32. Then, make sure to route your DAW to bring in all 32 channels from the USB cable. Make sure to connect the cable to the X-USB slot on the back of the console. (2) Go into Setup and make sure the Card is set to 32/32. (3) Make sure you have the X-USB driver downloaded if you are on a PC (not needed for MAC).

1) go to Settings > Card and make sure you are set as 32/32 2) go to Routing > Card and make sure those settings match Routing > Input 3) If you are on a newer machine running USB-C and converting with a dongle. Make sure it is either Apple or Anker branded. Other less expensive brands will only convert channels 1/2 4) go into the settings of Logic an make sure the inputs are mapped properly so the DAW has a place to send all 32 USB inputs from the console.

First thing to check is this security setting. This video covers both Windows and MAC. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBHxLNjcZzo.html

If you have a Windows machine, make sure you have the X-USB driver downloaded to your computer. Regardless of Windows or Mac, Start by checking out the security settings discussed in this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBHxLNjcZzo.html

This would be a representation of your gain structure per channel. Many people set their gain according to what they need in their room and then realize they have very little signal coming into their console (and then their monitors and DAW). The video below discusses the issue and my recommended approach. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--RjP3IKFfqM.html

So here are a few things to think about that might adjust your approach. 1) The console can only attach across USB to one computer to manage inputs/outputs. Most people running a basic Ableton rig will have two outputs (Click and tracks) and send the headphone out of this computer into a stereo DI box which allows them to plug these inputs into regular XLR inputs on the console. You can go more advanced and get a Focusrite interface that offers four outputs or a Moto that offers eight outputs, but that is a more complicated setup. 2) Using Step 1 as a guide to get click and tracks into the console you now have the USB to run Logic for recording and vocal processing. 3) Depending on the computer you are using (and its' location in your venue) it may be more efficient to pick one DAW to do everything and go across USB. ROUTING SETUP; The Basic setup with two DAWs would have your Ableton rig using a DI and coming in like any other input. Your Logic rig using USB. You would utilize the USER INPUTS section to determine which inputs come from a preamp and which come from USB return (vocals). Your CARD tab would send all your inputs to the card. Your DAW would use some version of Sub Outs to determine the routing for getting your vocals back into the console. Keep in ind you Do Not want your main mix in Logic turned up or routed to any output otherwise it could be coming back into your console. The Basic setup with one DAW would be similar in that you would use the USER INPUTS to map your desired click, tracks and vocals into the console from the DAW. You would want to make sure that you have your DAW outputs set appropriately for the items going back into the console and confirming your main DAW mix is not sneaking into the console in any way. There are a lot of details to get right when setting this up. I have linked a video below that might offer you the concepts to work with but if you want to work together I do offer one-on-one consultations. If you want to explore that route please fill out the contact card on my website at sound.allamhouse.com Video Link - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-96dvkMd_tmw.html

Typically it is a security setting on your computer. Here is a short video that covers both MaC and Windows for the common issue. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBHxLNjcZzo.html

The best thing to do is setup to record your band in your normal venue. Pick a rehearsal or a service, click those tracks to record and then just stop the recording at the end of the session. Then push those back through your console. I have stuff from my church, but these would be different than your normal folks so it would be okay to practice with, but not worth saving your work as it will likely be different for your actual band. Also, I believe there are options to get multitracks from other sources online, but I have always just recorded my group.

The first thing to keep in mind is that you can only run 32 tracks across USB so if you are currently recording all 32 inputs you will need to pick a few to not record. I usually go into Routing > Card and set 25-32 as User Outs. Then, in Routing > User > Outputs I set 25-28 to match my inputs and then set 29/30 for Stream Outputs and 31/32 for Main LR output. This will grab those signals and send them into your DAW.

Can you confirm that everything is set to run live sound and in Routing>Input the bottom right encoder is set to REC? Now, go to Routing>Card and make sure all of your settings look the exact same as the inputs tab. Finally, go to the DAW and make sure you have a 1 to 1 mapping of your inputs, nothing in the DAW is turned down (input, gain, or plugin) and it should work properly.

If you record on the X-live SD card, it is just like a computer... only onboard. It will record straight off the preamp, but no Armstrong’s are stored with the project. You would want to save the Scene of the board which is a snapshot of all your settings and then you can load it and play your tracks.

I use StudioOne Pro which I record into every week. It is a paid software which is why I recommend using TracksLive... it's free. I know the Prime version is free also, but I'm not sure if you can setup to record in 32 tracks. Give it a try and see if you can map it all in for recording. Let me know the results.

The X-USB card is set to take the signal just after the preamp and send it out USB. This means the mute, EQ and other channel strip features will bot be recorded. I discuss it in this recent Q&A video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QD8FcsmB-XY.html

This is a personal preference thing. I typically (Windows or MAC) record on my local hard drive. For audio, I keep 2-3 services on my local before I move them to a longer term storage. For video, I have a external SSD I use for everything since the files are so much bigger.

Yes, that is the goal. The tracks are recorded just after the ore-amp which means it does NOT have any of the EQ, Comp, FX in the recordings. This allows you to push them back through the console and practice without a band.

On the X32, go to Settings > Card and make sure you are set to 32/32. This should allow your card to bring back 32 tracks from your DAW.

If you are on V4.0 or later you can use the USER out section to custom build some routing. You can then select this output routing setup on the card section of the routing area. This video here is not the exact answer, but it might point you in the right direction since it deals with a bunch of routing setup. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zb6ngDBuaDE.html

@@AllamHouse Thanks, I will check out the linked video

If you are on a Windows machine you will need to install the X-USB driver, if you are on a Mac it will not need a driver. Also, there are some security settings you might need to change which I explain in this video here (both Windows and Mac) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBHxLNjcZzo.html

This console (from the factory) has the X-USB card which allows 32 channels going from the console to the computer and 32 channels to come back to the console from the computer. It uses a standard printer cable (USB A-B). If you need to move audio across an Ethernet cable you would need to upgrade to the DANTE card.

There is a trick using the P-16 channels that (with the correct routing) allows you to send signals into a DAW and include the onboard channel strip from the X32. You are limited to 16 channels at a time, but it might fit your needs. I don’t currently have a video about this, but maybe I can make one soon as this has come up a bit recently.

@@AllamHouse Cool. Please show us!

@@Ztiredeul Drew Brashler has the video out

Yes, you can send the individual tracks or a mixed version (in a stereo return) back to the console. The routing becomes a little interesting, but you would just be using Card inputs for the channels you want to have sourced from the DAW.

It sounds like you are on the M32 or have the X-Live card installed. This auto-switch feature is built into the settings of the card. Go to Settings > Card and you will find some options to change away from an automated switch. I hope this helps.

Yes, wherever your inputs are coming in from (local for you) that is what you would route to your card.

AllamHouse I went to church today. I was able to set up recording on x32 to local 1-32 and play from cars 1-32. I downloaded the track live software. Unfortunately I don’t have drop down menu for sound interface. It says no sound interface. However I could see the MIDI has detected x32. I am stack right there.

You will treat the SD card similar to the USB recording. Take these steps. Recording--- 1) Go to Routing > Card and set 1-8 to be sourced by AuxIn 1-6/TB. 2) Go to the USB Recorder settings (click the view button next to the USB recorder) and find the option for the recorder source and change from USB to SD 3) When ready, go to USB Recorder and push the record button Playback--- 1) Go to Routing > Inputs and set the AUX In Remap (far right) to Card 1-6. 2) Go to the USB Recorder and push the play button *NOTE: I do not personally have this card installed in my console so I am going off of what I have learned from working on others' consoles. Make sure to test this during a non-production time to make sure you have all of the details worked out.

@@AllamHouse Thanks a lot. Im find solution using users in and aux in to the first group of chanels at routing IN. All Play and Record option of multitracking works great from card and live without any other configuration. Cheers!!!

There are a number of variables to consider here. 1) Are you on a Mac or PC? If PC, do you have the X-USB driver installed? If not, you are probably limited to just two inputs. 2) Do you have the X-USB card selected as the input driver (regardless of computer platform)? 3) Have you setup the routing inside the DAW to receive the 32 inputs from the X-USB driver?

@@AllamHouse many thanks, that really helped. Sorted now.

This setup works on all versions of the firmware, but the Rec/Play switch was added in the V4.0 and newer firmware versions. In previous versions you would need to update the inputs to be card... the newer versions you can preset those inputs and just flip a switch.

True gain control is only allocated for the preamp on the console (or stage box). When flipping to a virtual soundcheck across USB or SD card (on the X-Live card) you can use the gain knob and this will impact digital trim. This increase or decrease will be reflected when you go back to the normal setting for live inputs so your efforts will be retained.

@@AllamHouse thanks so much for the quick response. Really appreciate it. All the best to you!

Answered this in another comment on a different video.

Go to Setup > Card and make sure the setting is on 32 in / 32 out

The tracks would be stored on the harddrive as .wav files. You could move those to Logic to do your post work. If possible, it will be much easier to just setup Logic in place of TracksLive and record right into Logic which removes the extra step.

@@AllamHouse yes brother thank you so much. I was able to extract them as individual files and put them in Logic Pro. You have no idea how much you have helped me and my church. May the Lord continue to bless you and may he always keep you. You are such a blessing to this kingdom.

If you want to capture the AUX channels into TracksLive you can either route a block of inputs through the normal USB routing area OR through the custom User Outputs area. It just depends on how many inputs you are running standard to determine how many extra channels you have available to map your AUXs to.

@@AllamHouse Thanks a bunch for the info. I am gonna try that out. Give thanks again for your help.

This is based on gain structure. Ideally you would have all instruments registering between -12 and -9 on the channel input of the x32. This would allow for a consistent sound going into Logic. It is. Penal though for different instruments to produce larger patterns than others.

Gain stage.

No, everything is pretty much the same on the X32 rack. You still have 32/32 across the USB cable and I have multitrack recorded many shows on the rack version.

This is a great question, and one that I have never figured out myself. This would happen on my PC about once a month and it drove me crazy. I have experienced it on MAC, but found a solution that seems to work to wake-up my DAW and see the X-USB. What I do on MAC is switch my input device to me "Built-In Mic", hit Apply, then go back to the dropdown and X-USB is there (in a new spot in the list) and when I select it tends to work fine. For PC, the only thing I found that was the most consistent (but still not enough for me to call it a fix) was to... (1) Disconnect the USB cable (2) Power down the console (3) Reconnect the USB cable (4) Reboot the console Good Luck

@@AllamHouse Oh my, that's painful! Thank you for the work-around, though. Have you found this problem with both the Presonus DAW and the Tracks Live DAW? If it's on both, then I suppose it's a problem with the soundboard or the X-USB driver. If it's only happening on Tracks Live, then I might just need to find a new DAW. Thanks again for your help.

I only use Presonus StudioOne. I made the video with TracksLive because it was a free piece of software. My assumption is that it is not dependent on the DAW, but rather the computer and console connection.

@@AllamHouse Yep, that makes sense. So it's a problem in Presonus StudioOne, and I've seen it in Tracks Live, so it doesn't matter which DAW I use. If I come up with a better solution than what you provided, I'll let you know. Thank you again so much.

Double check the following items... 1) on the X32 go to Setup > Card and make sure you are on 32/32 2) in the DAW, locate your I/O settings (maybe in preferences) and make sure you have the appropriate 32 ins AND 32 outs setup. 3) in the DAW, make sure you have each channel set to route to an individual output and make sure your Main Output (in the DAW) is NOT going to output 1/2.

@@AllamHouse Got it.Thank you sir. It works. I appreciate it.

Reaper has defaulted to an output of L/R mains going out USB 1/2. This happens to me and I have to change it when I don’t use one of my templates I’ve built. Double check your settings and you should be good to go. If possible, build a template that includes your I/O mapping in Reaper and you can use that for each session.

@@AllamHouse Thanks! I think that did the trick. I had only a few minutes today to look at it, and I unchecked send to main/master output in each Reaper track. When I played back I think I was still getting some other stuff coming through, but when I turned all the monitor buses down everything went away (except the tracks being played back on the board's channels on which they were recorded). Thanks again for your help!

The level of a Presonus matters in this case. The free version (Prime) only supports 2 inputs. The Artist and Pro support your 32 tracks. I always recommend Prime for people that are practicing at home when someone else is handling the actual recording, but if you want to record you will need the Artist. Erosion at minimum.

@AllamHouse bummer. Does the free version of Tracks Live or any other free version support 32 channels?

Yes, Tracks Live is free and supports all channels. Newer OS will sometimes not run it, but it is certainly worth a shot.

By default it is not designed to record like that, but only pull in RAW tracks. You can become creative and setup some custom routing to record exactly what you want (within limitations). You would end up using a MixBUS and feed it the dry signal and the FX you want and then send that bus out across USB into your DAW. Also, if you are looking to just build a nice mix on the console and then send that to your DAW I have a number of "live Stream" related videos that might give you some ideas. Here are two videos that can help you with routing and board layout. Mix Bus Routing to USB: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vx4HjArTeZI.html Custom mix across a Stereo MixBus: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pMnaiuC55RY.html

@@AllamHouse thank you, I will definitely try it

Yes, this setup will work on any X32 platform you are using... assuming it has the X-USB or X-Live card.

I saw your other comment and just replied to it. I will post the same answer here in case someone has the same question while looking at this video. If you have the Behringer X32 you will need to upgrade to the X-Live card which allows for multitrack recording directly to SD cards. If you have the Midas M32 it will come with this card already installed. Outside of those options, you will need to use a DAW to record. If you are just going for a basic record and playback, you might look at Trackslive which is a free download from Waves and it is a very basic DAW that would be a direct replacement for the SD card concept if you need this soon.

@@AllamHouse thank you!

I would start by checking the settings discussed in this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBHxLNjcZzo.html

@@AllamHouse thanks so much!!

Yes, you will need to go to Behringer website, search for X32, go to the software section on the right side and grab the X-USB driver.

@@AllamHouse thanks Dave. I'll give it a try. I appreciate your video's and you are a great drummer and loved the pure worship. Thank you

Short answer... yes. It will take a little prep work on the routing in and out of your DAW and X32, but it is certainly possible to do it. Be aware that if you are running tracks back through with a bunch of plugins in the DAW, you might experience some latency. You can do it and even can become creative with how you do it for the best result.

@@AllamHouse please show me how to route it on the X32, i can find my way on DAW routing. I will be very grateful sir.

I’m happy to help. Can you give me more insight on your exact scenario? Would you be recording one input at a time? Would you be recording a band that needs to hear a rough mix in their monitors? Let me know.

The setup will be somewhat unique and I don't have a specific video to point you to for this setup. I usually take the approach of sending all my inputs to a DAW (for multitrack recording) which is the video you watched here. Once those signals are in the DAW you have the ability to manage them in the DAW and then route them back out (across USB) and back to the console. If it is just one input you can get away with just changing the source for that channel, but if it ends up being more than that it is usually best to use the User In settings. To get started though, just select the channel and go to Home > Config and then on the left you can select the card channel that your signal is returning to the console on (from your DAW). I like to keep a one-to-one routing inside the DAW so that channel 13 on my console is channel 13 on USB and channel 13 in the DAW. I hope that helps. If you need specific help feel free to fill out the contact card on my website and we can book a time to chat. sound.allamhouse.com

@@AllamHouse thank you a lot. I solved it using aux. I attach synth input to an aux input, then in the menu under card section for 1-8 I choose 1-8b aux and that's how I can have on channel 1-2 of ableton the synth. Thank you 😙

Here is a video that walks through a concept that might be helpful for you. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zb6ngDBuaDE.html

@@AllamHouse Awesome, that answered my question. Thanks!

Reaper is a great DAW. I personally use Presonus StudioOne Pro, but if people are just trying to record tracks and play them back in the console I promote TracksLive because it is free. Reaper is the next best thing due to minimal cost, but that is why I use TracksLive.

@@AllamHouse I was looking at TracksLive, and it seems like a simple solution for this purpose. However, on the page there's this note: "Please note: Development of Tracks Live has been discontinued. Tracks Live is still compatible with the systems listed on the Support tab below. On newer systems, REAPER 6.0 is qualified by Waves for multitrack recording and playback via the SoundGrid Driver." Heh... (I also like that Reaper is cross platform, it works on Linux, which I use at home)

That is a good point.

In this normal configuration, the signal is tapped right after the preamp and sent to the USB so the channel gain will determine the level sent to the DAW. I personally set my input meters to -12 in the X32 (a little hotter than you might see recommended).

OK so If I have a Midas DL32 connected on B then the preamp screen in setup has no effect on the signal going to the Daw either.@@AllamHouse

Sorry for the delayed reply, this got stuck in a weird "review" location in YT. The gain on your console will control the preamp level. This preamp could be the local one in the console or (if you are using the DL32) in your stage box. Regardless, your input channel will be sourced by a preamp (based on routing) and the gain will control that specific preamp. Once you have your gain set properly, you can set your routing that goes out the card and into your DAW. The signal will get tapped just after the preamp and be sent out USB into your DAW for recording. Note that the level coming out of the board (even when set to -12 on the input meter) will still seem small in the DAW. If you plan to do any post production work with these recording you will usually need to bump them up by 6-10dB per channel.

This is interesting. In theory, if your inputs are the only thing that change (from REC to PLAY) then everything should work the same. Double check that you are not sending all of your multitracks to the individual input channels and NOT all to input 1/2 of the console.

@@AllamHouse I will double check... but i can see all the channels I recorded are appearing on the same. CH 1 appears on CH1 and CH 20 is CH 20 i can see the input on those individual channels... it just weird... Thinking so many people have done stuff over the years that I just need to save a scene and default the X32 then reload that scene... basically starting over... Maybe?

Sometimes it is worth a fresh start. You can use the library (on the console) to store your EQ/comp settings for each input. Then Dona reset and get the basic workflow functioning, then reload the settings one at a time and make sure everything continues to work.

You’ll need to make sure the DAW is setup for 32 outs (not just 2). What you are getting is the main LR mix from the DAW coming back across USB 1/2.

@@AllamHouse I use studio one and I thought that when the routing from the x32 is set, and the input and output sources are set in the daw to “X-USB” it will automatically send all those channels through the DAW, as long as the right amount of tracks is set up in the DAW. Or am I completely wrong?

Unfortunately, it is not automatic. You need to go into Song > Song Setup > Audio I/O and manually do the routing within the matrix window. This video here shows some of the setup matrix window in StudioOne and it might be helpful to you. There is a quick link in the description to jump to the 13:44 mark. You will also need to select your channels in the DAW to go back out the ‘sub group’ which will get it to go out USB and back to the console. If this doesn’t work out, let me know which version of StudioOne you are using and I’ll see if I can make a quick video about it. Video Link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-96dvkMd_tmw.html

@@AllamHouse thank you for the help!

My initial guess is that the plugins were turned on and increasing the level that was sent back to your console. This would produce a potential for clipping on every channel and lighting things up like a Christmas tree. 😂. In my example I have no plugins on my channels and the signal is set to 0dB that is being sent back to the console... a direct copy/replay in the DAW. To rebuild your confidence (after turning off your plugins), turn your master fader down, hit play and slowly raise it to a desired listening level.

@@AllamHouse Got you! Thank you so much for your help. I should disregard DCAs, subgroups & my pre-fader monitor setups on my console when doing this, correct? The only thing coming into my console from my daw (that I can control) are the inputs as well as the MASTER fader, correct?

When you are doing the recording part, Logic will be recording the audio that comes in on any track you have recorded. When you swap the console inputs to USB, you should be able to run the recordings (in a 1 to 1 line up) through your console as if there are people playing instruments... they just happen to be recordings. All the features of the console will be functional and the mix will go out your mains to your speakers. The idea is that you can record and then immediately push back through the console and not have to change anything outside of the routing.

That’s exactly right. Swap your inputs from Rec to Play and you can work with everything on the board in an isolated fashion to refine your sound for your stream.

That's the whole idea behind this and he never really mentioned it! lol The band can do one song then go eat and you can do soundcheck!

Are you just doing a 2-track off the top thumb drive? I’ll probably make a video out of this soon because it is a great topic. The top usb drive doesn’t render the recording into a wave file until you hit stop recording and I’m pretty sure after 11 hours it’s bot going to do well on that rendering. My choice would be to use a computer and a DAW with an external (or sizeable hard disk) that you could setup your desired record output (MixBUS, Main L/R, etc) to go out the X-USB and into the DAW. You get the stability of the computer to manage the recording and typically a DAW will do auto-save throughout the event. If you are doing a multitrack setup… good luck. I usually record my 1.5 hour service with 22 tracks and this tracked up about 13GB. If you extrapolate that across 11 hours, that’s a lot of space.

@@AllamHouse thank you! Good info. I should have been more specific. I’m more concerned with compatibility of the drives and cards rather than continuous recording. There will only be about an hour to hour and a half continuous. Was looking to do multritrack on the SD cards and/or 2track to USB. Thanks so much!

I see. My church records our services with the 2-track to USB on some standard 4GB thumb drives from Amazon. As long as you format it to Fat32 you are fine. My church is typically a Mac shop so we have to use Disk Utility to format. Multi tracking on a computer works well on either platform (Windows or Mac). Mac is plug-n-play where Windows does require a driver. I’ve lived in both environments and recorded many sessions in each.

@@AllamHouse Thanks again! This is definitely tough info to find. I'm going to bring 32GB & 64 GB USB drives to event so hopefully they are recognized by the board. Guess I still need to figure out what the max size SD/SDHC card I can use in the board to record multitrack...?

Let me know if you end up with other questions.