X6100 Wifi Discovered!

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@aaronoxen 2 года назад

Your patience in working with this is amazing. When I have to run *Linux, I'm so used to it just working. With the X6100 doing what you were doing would drive me crazy. Thanks for the info and videos.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I'm not expecting it to be 100% polished, so that's a good starting point.

@vaunsphotography6820 2 года назад

Glad you've had some measure of success in accessing wifi and Bluetooth. I enjoy watching your videos as you explore possibilities with this radio. 73s De N7MRF.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Thanks Vaun!

@k8xg615 2 года назад

The eventual solution they provided was to use a BT usb adapter with the GSOC. Congrates on what you have done here.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I'm just getting warmed up!

@mickgatz214 Месяц назад

Yup...spent all night trying to figure that out, but to no avail.... You've just demonstrated that with your awesome skills/video. Thanx. Oh well, it just stays in it's box for SHTF day. 👍

@temporarilyoffline Месяц назад

This radio is a lot of fun to play with - platform for software tinkering... as a basic QRP field radio, it works really well with its large screen/waterfall, built in tuner and 10w on battery power. I've used it quite a bit in the last 2 years. All that being said, its not 'the best' at anything in particular. A very weird device.

@Paddy_Roche 2 года назад

Great progress Steve

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Slowly but surely. Now that I've got it opened up, we can test out the antennas and make it better.

@AG7SM 2 года назад

"screw it. Ship it."

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Somebody got a Shippy Award!

@Johnzx66 2 года назад

Thanks Steve, great video! The builtin antenna works OK with my router which locates in the same room of my radio. I got (external 13.1v battery): Bit Rate=6.5 Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Retry short limit:7 RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality=48/70 Signal level=-62 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:51 Missed beacon:0

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Very good. I think my wifi is on the opposite side of the radio... and the house.

@MeineVideokasetten 2 года назад

Keep up the fantastic work!

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Thanks, will do!

@joeblow8593 2 года назад

Thanks again for these X6100 videos

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

No problem

@lqqkout8214 2 года назад

Congrats!!

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Thanks!

@quantumradio 2 года назад

Good video. I've subscribed to your channel. Linux login to a radio via RPI, I'm hooked! It raised the question, is similar access possible with my Xiegu G90? and then the logical follow-on, if so,then what customizations could I do to my G90.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

There are a few github repos geared towards hacking the G90, but I don't have a G90 to play with.

@ERICtheLATE 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline This radio is the color gsoc bound to g90 boards, and would be a backtrack to get it, besides it's few extra watts. I am not seeing the mic hole on the front of it like the x5105's that mfj scooped up.

@dovpauzner5093 2 года назад

Thank you !

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@HamTechRadioScannerDrones 2 года назад

Excellent

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@k0emt 2 года назад

Assuming availability of internal connectors. I'm thinking machined slots in the case, with a matching 3D printed plug. Then you could place wifi/bluetooth antennas there. Something like "Internal Laptop NGFF M.2 MHF4 Wireless WiFi Bluetooth Antenna Copper Plate" Very similar to what I've seen in tablets and tiny PCs. 72 K0EMT

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

On the left side of the radio, right below the HF antenna you'll find a black sticker. Behind that sticker are your WiFI/BT antennas

@HamTechRadioScannerDrones 2 года назад

Clever and interesting.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

It can only get better!

@echo-hotel 2 года назад

Keep up the good work! Wish I had one. Would love to rip it apart and mod it.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I got you covered, check out my teardown video

@CapeCodCNC 2 года назад

Is the Bluetooth/wifi a single board that you can change easily? If so just run external antennas..... wish mine was here. This looks like FUN! Have you run it out of the box? Great work man!

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I need to open it up... might do that in a bit. Stay tuned.

@CapeCodCNC 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline Awesome!

@somarmd 2 года назад

I think it’s amazing what you have been able to figure and configure on this radio. For the non tech’s like myself. ….was the 6100 ready for the general public as a workable, “as advertised” radio? I’m thinking I may have misunderstood something. Is this radio more for people who have the ability to problem solve and make software configuration adjustments? I’m kind of kidding, but at this point, not so much. Iv’e been enjoying your channel (even if I don’t understand all of it) and appreciate your abilities. 73 Dave - KD2LMR

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Not ready as released. I wasn't happy when wifi and Bluetooth didn't work out of the box

@mickgatz214 Месяц назад

@@temporarilyoffline Same...Do you think they'll release some patch?

@temporarilyoffline Месяц назад

@@mickgatz214 they have released a TON of patches for this radio in the last 2 years. The biggest problem with WiFi/BT is that the case is all metal and inside they are using ceramic antennas. No amount of software is going to make that work well. The new model has plastic end caps and so far the wifi has been good.

@mickgatz214 Месяц назад

@@temporarilyoffline Thanku for prompt reply. I am just watching Josh do something via the USB, yup, i'm learning...slowly. :)

@mickgatz214 Месяц назад

@@temporarilyoffline Ham Radio Crash Course, Josh....

@ironworks1506 2 года назад

Thanks for the great analysis, even if I don't think the Chinese wanted this, but this is finally a real SDR device that we as Hams can finally take control of. I'm curious when the first add-ons will be available or when the corresponding SDR software has been adapted. DL2KTH

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

We are getting there. We've got increased power out and open transmit... lots more to come.

@pequeajim 2 года назад

Love the stuff you're doing my friend. Hey, is that an old commodore computer that you have sitting in your room?

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Sure is! I have a retro-tech channel where I repair/explore old tech: ru-vid.com I'm currently building a ZX-81

@pequeajim 2 года назад

Ha! I had one of those Timex Sinclair computers, cool stuff!

@pequeajim 2 года назад

Of course that was over 30 years ago!

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I used to have a TS1000 on the shelf for a while. Not sure where it is now.

@pequeajim 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline did you ever have a TRS-80? Now I'm digging back with that one! 🤓

@Dusty_Ham 2 года назад

Steve, have you slept and eaten yet? You guys on TOADS are insane with the amount you've done on this radio in such a short time.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Slept? I'm on the x6100 diet

@PotatoesMakeChips 2 года назад

Might be worth putting the wifi radio into AP mode and hosting a network from the radio instead of trying to connect to one, that would hopefully get over the strength issues given that you'd be closer. I haven't read the spec so I don't know for certain but I think wifi has a higher output power than Bluetooth so it might be able to "defeat" the faraday cadge effect slightly better at close range.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Could be. I don't think it would be hard to mount a better antenna on it.

@Randrew 2 года назад

The -66 to -63 dB RSSI shown before and after going to "shore power" should have been (just) adequate for a Wifi connection. I'd lean toward power being the issue. But speaking of power... I'd not be surprised if Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connections would glitch out when actually transmitting - like a ham - from the radio. They *could* have designed and built it to avoid cross-interference, but I wouldn't count on it.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I agree completely. I don't think they were isolated at all.

@gmichalosky 11 месяцев назад

Curious, could you rig a wifi dongle to connect thru one of the USB-C ports?

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Via powered hub and new Linux kernel, yes.

@peterdekeles. 2 года назад

This would make a great adventure game. Solve the 6100x puzzle

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

It is an adventure!

@W9TSB 2 года назад

Who ever setup the password for that radio must be a Space Balls fan. 😂

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

exactly!

@W9TSB 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline I guess I better change the combination on my luggage. 😂

@ronwolenski-n8wcr 2 года назад

Do NOT tell Steve it can't be done...

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Right!

@pc4ad 2 года назад

Wouldn't be the com-port speed 115k2 rather than 19k2?

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

There are two "serial ports" inside the unit cat is 19200, serial console is 115200

@EdStyer 2 года назад

OMG! Mine's going back!

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

If you're a linux hacker, hold on to yours. This is just starting to get fun. If you want to just go portable... there are better radios.

@LevyCarneiro 2 года назад

On mine, it shows a phantom signal on the left and right sides of the waterfall when WiFi is enabled. Strange.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

It shouldn't be there, but it is a thing on this radio. Your's does it all the time when you turn wifi on and it goes away when you turn wifi off?

@LevyCarneiro 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline correct, the moment I disable Wifi, the waterfall clears. Yeah, talk about bugs hehe

@temporarilyoffline Год назад

@@LevyCarneiro maybe that's why I don't see it except rarely. I don't run wifi because I can't keep a connection

@temporarilyoffline Год назад

I'm on the latest firmware now and wifi is working (for the moment, no long term beliefs on this one🙂) - zero birdies on the waterfall with wifi on or off. (Just finally had a chance to get this radio on the bench again!)

@phildurall7466 2 года назад

Steve ... you didn't happen to remove the end plates and test to see what the ping times were then did you? Nice job by-the-way Sir! 73, KF6IF

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I will, the wifi antennas are right next to the end plates

@FEPLabsRadio 2 года назад

Interesting you had so much problem pulling an address. I haven't seen that happening here at all, however - the onboard wifi gets a little pissy with me if I ping flood it, or nmap it. Normal terminal stuff works fine though. Also, FWIW, I was on power when this happens. I haven't really got jazzy with it on battery.

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I'm pretty sure it was interference from my LED lights... but either way, its not very reliable, even after moving the RF cable.

@NamasenITN 2 года назад

Would it be possible to connect a USB WiFi dingle?

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

Yes, you can connect a dongle if you load the right drivers on the machine

@mccooperman 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline I was just about to ask that question 🙋‍♂️...I think that’s great that’ll do me if I can load the drivers sharp learning curve but great fun amazing it’s great that you’ve turned this purchase into a very positive thing who needs it working out of the box when you have Linux plus I got a free watch too 👍😀... interesting channel thank you for sharing.

@QRPp_Radio Год назад

I thought this was about the X6100 - I have no idea what this "Propeller-head" is talking about!

@temporarilyoffline Год назад

Well, they can't all be on topic

@guarocuya3514 2 года назад

Hello!. Can you make a connector in the case for an external wifi/Bluetooth antenna!.🤔

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I think so

@guarocuya3514 2 года назад

@@temporarilyoffline Thanks!. I think that will solve the shielding issue.

@peterdambier 2 года назад

looking at the backside of the radio, a hole about 7cm long should do the trick. Except now the battery might ... The cells dont touch the case and they are in series. This could open a window for both wifi and bluetooth. Anything longer than 2.4 GHz this would keep the Faraday Cage intact. Big Tankyou to all you hackers. 73 Peter DL2FBA

@temporarilyoffline 2 года назад

I found in the teardown video there is a slot on the left side they covered with a sticker that exposes the (really bad) wifi antennas, lots of room for us to make it better