I’d like to formally apologize for being so harsh on the Xbox platform, my series consoles still get used occasionally and my Gamepass subscription is up to date.
I was going to comment that the video felt like a bit of a premature rant when I watched it… some corrections re: company structure and acknowledgement of this has certainly tempered my reaction. This sort of vid where opinions and facts aren’t fully formulated can hurt a channel (see LTT), so I would just say that it’s sometimes a better idea to pause and think before putting a video out - stuff RU-vid’s algorythem 😂
I just appreciate your vids. You are my go to for controllers and off your recommendations alone i have bought or passed on some gamepads. You opinion was strong and did maybe hurt a few feelings but in the end, we choose what we pay for. Its all about preference and what each console offers you as the consumer. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, as I was watching your video (first time seeing you) I did kinda note that you basically shit on my console of choice. Having played and collected consoles for over 40 years, you like what you like and I find xbox to fit my needs the best. I've pretty much have them all, so I don't play the fanboy wars, but there is something to be said for the breadth of what the xbox does coupled with ease of use. I would say that Xbox brought the subscription service to the forefront that everyone is now trying to get a piece of (like it or not they pushed it when others avoided it.)
Just a correction, Phil Spencer hasn't stepped down. He has been CEO of Microsoft Gaming for a while, it encompasses all of MS's efforts into Gaming not just Xbox. Sarah Bond has just been promoted to President of Xbox, she still reports to Phil and Phil reports to Satya Nadella
The biggest problem with this ban is that officially supported Xbox gamepads and other accessories are very pricey in certain markets. Many people end up buying these unauthorized accessories because they can't afford a new one, this is especially true for headsets where Xbox has extremely limited support. With Microsoft also increasing the price of the Series S to almost the same price as the PS5 Digital Edition (here in Brazil), it's clear they're just trying to make bank in whatever way they can find after spending so much money on acquisitions.
Bigbig won armour x pro and mayflash work fine. Ban all controllers Is impossible. Besavior controller pro and dongle u5 work very well on Ps5. Besavior for Xbox=End game for Microsoft
Game Sir has a $50 controller that is arguably better than a lot of pro controllers and cheaper than the default xbox controller. The G7 SE is also one of the xbox approved controllers
i play on pc, but im disabled from a kinda milder muscle disorder and there's likely a lot of disabled gamers that will be effected by this... the people that dont need the accessibility controller but still require more assists than a pro controller. disability is a huge range, and people kinda only see the extreme as what qualifies.
@@Lukasz3332xyea the tight rope of options balancing accessibility options and cheaters is narrow. Except cheaters will always find a way around whatever you do, disabled people wont. We hit energy and frustration walls trying to find solutions before this, after will be even harder
I hope this doesn’t effect the Wingman XB since I occasionally like to use my PS5 controller for how comfortable the thumb sticks are and how it feels in the hands.
Brook has already said the xb2 may have problems, I am assuming the xb 1 will be banned as well. Basically, my understanding anything that doesn’t use an official authentication chip won't work anymore. Things like titan 2/cronosmax should actually still work as you plug in an official controller for the authentication. (Full disclosure, I own a titan 2 in single player to allow me to use aviation flightsticks in unsupported flight games one the 360 & series consoles. I also own 3 Brook xb/xb2 devices for the Xbox.) Likewise, the creater of the roll limitless device (Rock band guitar/drum converter) said his device still worked when used with an official controller to handle the authentication, but not while using the wingman xb for authentication, he got the unofficial device error code. This ban will only effect things like knockoff controllers, and unfortunately the brook xb, as it uses a fake authentication chip or some other work around rather than borrowing the authentication from an official controller, (I never figured out how they got around the authentication issue myself.) This sucks for those who simply want to use unofficial dongles to adapt a PlayStation controller to work on Xbox. I actually expect this may drive people to devices like the titan two/chronomax because they (as I understand) should still work as simple controller converters (in addition to all the cheat functions) while the other simple adapters like the wingman with no cheat features won't work anymore. (They will require an official controller to authenticate, so I guess Microsoft still get’s it’s money one way or another.) Brook said they were looking into working around the ban, and would post on social media if they can figure it out. In the meantime, the Brook xb should still work on the original Xbox and 360, if you own those earlier consoles.
XBox seems to just want Game Pass subscribers, regardless of the platform (Console/PC/TV/mobile). I'm sure if they could be on Nintendo and Playstation platforms they'd be cool with that.
Brook's Amazon product page says the following: "【Note: Xbox Series: XSX|S and Xbox One will no longer be supported from November 2023.】" Seems like an issue to me. I don't know if updating it will just brick those features now. The Wingman XB 2 paired with a (licensed) Victrix Pro BFG already isn't working for me. Sony blocked converters for PS5 themselves - is it a stretch to think Microsoft might be going the same way?
sony did the same thing when the ps5 first came out, you couldn’t use things like cronus or xim, but workarounds came out with besaviors, wingman’s, other shit like that, so I assume in a few months like you said they’ll be back
Damn dude congratulations, I must’ve missed you at the one year mark which I was hoping I would’ve caught you for. But congratulations man that’s huge.
I actually support this decision. You rave about playing on PC but I know you not playing Multiplayer games on PC, which brings me to my point. Cheating has been prevalent and "anticheat" has not be effective at discouraging cheaters from cheating. Xbox wants a fair field in multiplayer and this is a positive step forward. Even though it is a great feature, I turn crossplay off and not to avoid PS players, but to avoid PC scumbags. I wish there was a third option for Console players only. I do eventually want to get a 4090 PC but when I do, I will still play Mulltiplayer games on my Xbox, with more confidence now then ever that if I lose to an opponent, he's not cheating. He's just better.
the part about xbox being trashy was stupid imo. IMO your saves are the same as on pc, you can put in another room. lets your kids/siblings play it, play the same games, same progression. fighting game character DLCs etc, theyre all there. i get it if youre alone its pointless but then again much can be said the pointlessness of the other 2 platforms that would make xbox shine (PS5 censorship and lack of any game releases, switch being an underpowered console that can be emulated on a phone)
Those pros you mentioned I personally enjoy and will be mentioned in the “console war” video I use quotes because that’s not really what it is it is going to be looking at the pros and cons of all the platforms rather than fan boying any of them.
Yeah the save files and storage not locked down and free cloud saves are great on the Xbox side. I was pleasantly surprised the (still overpriced) Series memory card can plug into any other system. PS5 NVMe drive is encrypted for only its original system which made a cool external-ish accessory absolutely useless (r.i.p. the idea of mega memory cards), and idiotic Nintendo Switch does similar for the SD card. Modern console gaming has sold too much of its soul for money only bolstering PC Master Race. Am more or less okay with that tbh lol. (I own every console since PS2/OG Xbox/GameCube generation as well.)
I'm xbox insider in the alpha skip ahead ring. I have not had any issues with brook's wingman xb2 with latest tourament edition firmware. Which has no reamapping function or no turbo function. So far so good.
As a Xbox user, you nailed it. The fact Microsoft refuses to make a controller with more than 125hz to compete with PlayStation controllers(overclocked ones on top of that) just shows how trash it is. The 360 was peak/prime Xbox time.
I felt like I was a little too much (too harsh). But yeah the 360 was the golden years for Xbox . So many great games , such a good stock controller, just had the red ring of death to look out for
@@GamerHeavenOfficialYou're obviously a Sony fanboy. Don't try to hide it and get your facts straight. It wasn't Phil Spencer that stepped down. It was Larry Herb!
people really have the impression that gamepass is free, your still paying, you don’t own the games, eventually you’ll overpay for the $60 game that’s why companies are trying to move to subscription based services, they aren’t doing you a favor, they are trying to keep you locked in their monopoly where you don’t truly “own” anything. Give it a few years sony will try the same thing.
I got to defend xbox a bit. Gamepass and the series s are great deals if you cant afford a tricked out PC or games at full price and being able stream seamlessly is great. Their streaming and subscription platform is ahead of Sony, imo even though Sony has timed exclusives like God of War and Spider-Man. Backwards compatibility and Edge and UWP Windows apps on console are also a nice plus.
@GamerHeavenOfficial could you review the visionhmd racing controller BTW? It could be a budget alternative to the thrustmaster Forza wheel module you reviewed.
Hey everyone, I know I'm a bit late to this, but I wanted to give you a heads up. With the latest firmware update released on the 13th of March 2024, the OS version 10.0.25398.3864 unfortunately doesn't support the Brook XB2 controller adapter anymore. While I haven't tested it with a wide range of pads in this video, I did try it with an Aim controller from Aim themselves, as well as a stock PS4 controller and a couple of non-licensed controllers, and they no longer seem to work. Hopefully, there will be a solution or update soon you never know
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Yeah I get it, I'm not a fanboy of any company but your channel was fun and seeing you go down this route makes it a lot less fun. I know it's your opinion and I respect people stating their opinion but this kind of debate is just icky and really dilutes the fun.
It’s unfortunate because the adapters that are used for cheating didn’t actually get banned. They circumvent the check. The brooks xb2 adapters will be banned for everyone at some point when never they randomly decide to flag you. Brooks basically said they won’t be able to bypass it which is why they got marked down significantly. It’s pissed me off because I have a massive digital and physical library of Xbox/360/Xbox one games and so many unique peripherals that I invested hundreds into over the years. Part of the reason I bought my SX first this Gen was because they supported everything. It’s in bad faith to drop this type of stuff mid Gen.
Awesome review. I’m glad to know as a multiplayer FPS gamer that Xbox is trying to make sure there are no cheaters playing on an Xbox. Or at least that’s how I interpret this move. Thanks for the shoutout @AK40Kevin.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial no hard feelings. We all have opinions and occasionally we have wrong ones. I will be the first to say I may be supporting the wrong console, but it’s the one I’ve enjoyed gaming on the most. I’ve felt the envy and jealousy of missing out on games that launched on PlayStation consoles and there weren’t many answers from the Xbox side. I’ve been pissed at activision for the last 10 years with Xbox not having content parity with PlayStation. But still I have been able to enjoy my gaming experience. So at the end of the day, I think that’s what it boils down to.
Wow you really went for the jugular there ! . Hurt a lot of people in the feelers I’d bet lol . I am a series x owner as well but I just like playing games so I don’t worry about all that stuff. Keep ‘em coming captain 🤘
always been an xbox guy but i have to conceed your right ...its pointless in comparison to PlayStation...my sole reason to remain was gears of war then they ruined that by forcing pc crossplay in which case i may aswell buy a pc ......the chronus however is a disease and all companies should be banning it from their platforms
coincidentally the cheating on pc is the thing that turns me away from playing it so this should in theory be good news that the chronus wont work but in the world of ps xbox cross play it only works if both do it
Love the comment my friend. Is your name Kevin Clark?, That’s really weird if it is because that’s my name. Xbox actually does a few things really good which will be pointed out in that “Console war” video coming soon.
certainly is ..my gamertag is code red kev, must admit i was quite peeved when i stumbled across your channel and seen you go by AK40kevin and the fact i didnt think of that 🤣
“You will have nothing and be happy” type patch from macro hard and fony. I don’t feel like spending another 1,000$ on a sim setup just for Xbox. I don’t have the time, money or space for that.
This has irritated me in ways. I got the remote and i put it in and they said itll be banned on the 23rd of december, I messaged an xbox support member, and they ruled it down to being a 3rd party controller and not of microsoft company.. Unable to control my words i replied saying "ok so i should be forced to use a microsoft controller because of this modding situation, gothcha" It is uncertain if they want to push their products, or if they wish to stop modders. In general their comment to me only told me that they wanted their products pushed more. I am just happy PC has not done this, Its most certainly going to have repercussions.
I was an Xbox user and fan with the OG and the 360. Mainly because the Halo series up until Reach is probably my all time favorite franchise. Also in the past Xbox Live was a much better experience than PS Network. But once we got to the Xbox One era Halo had gone downhill and Xbox was trying to pull some sleezy tactics like always having to be connected to Internet and not being backwards compatible. Add to that the fact that Xbox didn't have any good exclusives anymore I decided to build a PC instead. I know Xbox somewhat redeemed themselves since their initial launch but I still am very happy that I went PC. There is zero reason for me to own an Xbox again and with PS games porting to PC there's really no reason to buy a PS either.
I have a PS5 and a Xbox and I don't touch the PS5 because they don't have a elite style controller with 4 back buttons. Bought a hypr controller for the PS5 but the sticks reaction speeds are not adjustable on the PS5.
thats to bad if they decided to make it hardware authenticated with a xbox chip. as i know afew friends that use custom controllers made with pico pi/arduino for disability purposes in fight games and shooters .
I’m gonna logic this one out for you quick. If the paddles are connected to a stock Xbox controller then yes the big big won paddles will still work because the controller is still a stock Xbox. The only thing the paddles do is give you an alternate way to actuate the face buttons.
@GamerHeavenOfficial i wanted to order a connector/adapter to use my scuf ps5 controller on xbox. I want to use a ps5 controller on my xbox x for mw3 multiplayer. Are you saying that i cant do that. I will be banned. If i can do it, please let me know which adapter to get so i can use the ps5 controller on call of duty, on my xbox, without getting banned. I dont see a reason to ban someone for wanting to use a ps5 controller on an xbox console. But call of duty is always banning people and i dont want that. Let me know if its safe or not to use. Thanks
I don't know why people see your hot take as an insult to Xbox. Phil and Microsoft Gaming's goal is to focus on cloud-based services and subscriptions. They kinda don't care about you having an Xbox. They want you to have gamepass whether that's on PC or on an Xbox. That's what they mostly care about. Does this mean Sony as a company is better than Mircosoft Gaming? Hell no, but it just means that the two companies have different goals in mind. Sony is living and dying by their consoles, which is prob why they're so anti-consumer these days.
Basically in short: Big companies that make xbox 3rd party controllers = Okay, has beeen approved by Xbox and has green sticker. ✅ Companies that dont even have their names on their products but sell them online I.e Ebay, Temu, Ali babrber, etc will be banned, not approved by Microsoft ❌ idk why people would want them anyways, usually are very bad input lag and quality. Also to add: In Australia unless you do quite a bit of shopping/waiting for New/2nd hand parts, an Xbox console wether the S or X will take your $$ way further than building a PC for Similiar/greater specs, so throw your old Pc in the bin and get an Xbox ✅ does support Mnk on alot of games aswell.
This channel always scratches whatever gamer nerd controller review itch no matter where the Amazon/RU-vid algorithm wormholes dump me. Ha! Inquiry: Last Christmas I got my 10 yro son, and budding gamer nerd stallion prodigy, a... Xbox Series S. Wait, hear me out! I also got him a pretty rad (albeit cheap) PIXIO "e-sports rated" 24" 1080p 144Hz IPS monitor to go with it... He's (We've ha!) already got a SSD upgraded PS4 Pro w/ PSVR and absolutely EVERY freakin' related peripheral. Aim controller, Move sticks, Thrustmaster HOTAS flight & Racing wheel do'hicky thingamajigs... You name it. Me? I'm still DeRping along on my dusty-trusty Xbox One S & Dad mode 55" 4K. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Anyway, he's now become my COD/Warzone wing-boi, and is naturally desiring something substantially more hand held comfortable within his 10 finger booger pwning control freaks dibbly digits. Ha! Instinctively? I've been thinking of something along the lines of a wired controller. Which has me leaning heavily towards something like either the GameSir G7 and/or G7 SE? Especially seeing as Amazon now has them paired in a bumble... Um er? Bumble? "Bumbles bounce!"- Yukon Cornelius Bundle! (facepalm) Amazon has them both now in an $80 bundle. Wow, I legitimately just typed all that didn't I?! Bwahaha! Allriiiightythen! Thanks in advance! For your expert opinion I mean, and yes... Before you ask? My son and I both have ASPD. 🙃
Hey Ken, actually the reason these articles started popping up was that this update has already started rolling out in the background for gamers especially if you were part of the Xbox insider program which gives you updates early. If anything does change on the 12th which I strongly assume it won’t, yes I can make another video
@@GamerHeavenOfficial it’s common sense IMO. They have way more in the pipeline. Way more variety of games. Games that are supported for far longer. Unless the only type of game you like is third person action adventure, I can’t see any reason to pick ps5.
Same. I actually sold my PS5 after GOW Ragnarok... I couldnt even finish the game, it's was like watching a 40 hr movie where you occasionally got to play.... Not my style, and that's all PS5 has to offer
@@Psilent_P totally. I actually really like all of the games. I’m working my way through the exclusives I missed right now. But I know once I’m done with these, my ps5 will be collecting dust while I play all third party and online games on my Xbox.
Yeah it seems the only gamers getting the shaft here are people trying to use third-party game pads on the cheap, or convert other controllers they like more. It’s not going to stop the cheating problem which is unfortunate.
I don't get how this is possible. The cronus USB pluggs into the console. So the USB plugged into the console is not a Microsoft authorized controller. How is it not recognized as such? I know xim and cronus are spoofers to make it seem like controller but how is it not detecting a USB from a non approved source.. If cronus and xim are still usable after this update. Then I'm just going to join the mnk crew. It's been 5 plus years of me attempting to play along on console against cheating mnk idiots. If this doesn't ban them I'm joining them officially. So let's hope it actually fucking works.
And here lies the problem. If they refuse to fix mnk spoofing on console. The problem will only grow. And I'll be part of that problem bcuz if you're not stopping the cheaters. May as well join them.
Naw man any Sony console is now the worse platform to play on. They have fired so many devs there will be no new first party Sony games coming out any time soon.
I do still forget that fanboyism exists in 2023 and you can’t share your opinion… Or set in stone fact for that matter without the risk of getting crapped on. Either way I’m here for it
Not to my knowledge, well not a company that sends a Controller with them already installed, but you could buy those janky modules and install them yourself
How dare you speak facts about Xbox. I am OFFENDED. On a serious note, I do play my series X more then my PS5. Xbox games also tend to be cheaper in the netherlands so my Xbox has been my multiplatform go-to
I think your take on Xbox is a little off. Multiplat games are typically designed for the PS5 first because it takes more resources and tuning for optimization. PS5 has larger market share and it makes to work on the version the most. Xbox versions are usually a secondary consideration because of time and budget constraints. The majority of Microsoft games are designed for console first with PC port using automation tools like XDK. The problem with PC gaming is the huge variety of hardware - look at all of the poorly performing PC ports released this year from both Sony and Microsoft. I'd rather sit on a couch and play a console than sit a desk in my office playing pc games. The value of the PS5 platform is hard to justify when compared to Gamepass. Sony doesn't have enough exclusives in the pipeline to get hyped about to justify buying a PS5. Marathon delayed, Destiny The Final Path, delayed. Massive investments into 10 live service games - all of which seem to be stalled or dead. The mindshare shift to Xbox is happening and Playstation is fumbling in the darkness right now.
I was considering getting a adapter for my ps4/5 and was gonna get a Xbox controller, is that bad? Like is it cheating? If I use a zen as a adapter is that bad? I won’t use mods bc I’m not paying for mods
I personally never use a device like a Cronus or Brook adapter online, only when I want to use controllers cross platform. I would advise against using a Cronus for online multiplayer even as an adapter
Update the game sir Nexxus app to the latest and greatest, and then if they don’t have the speed you want over clock it in the lord of mice as per my overclocking guide
I can think of at least one reason to have an Xbox even if you have a powerful PC... MLB The Show! There are "console exclusives" that make an Xbox worth it with Gamepass. It also stays in the big TV, is quiet, easy for kids to use... Come to think of it, I could go on and on here.... I see the apology now... I forgive you
Is gyro on Xbox cheating? You can play, for example, Fortnite cross platform from Xbox playing with people who use mouse/keyboard and gyro aim on other consoles. Xbox is inherently at a disadvantage and, besides a leak about a possible gyro controller in the future, they have no plans to even consider gyro on their console.
Buying that Xbox One S from that tweaker kid for $73 was the best decision i made, i now have the SX and im a very happy gamer, its things like quick resume that really get me, i had the Witcher on quick resume started it up after not playing for weeks started me right where i left off last
The playstation fanboys are gonna love you like a god now lol. Each console has its strengths weaknesses. Ill wait to see the video you make on the console wars. Console war has always been pointless to me but im here for it.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Our Gamer Father, who art in Gamer Heaven, hallowed be thy gamepad; thy RU-vid channel come; thy will be done on the world wide web as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily mission rewards; and forgive us our rage as we forgive those who rage against us; and lead us not into toxicity but deliver us from evil corporations. A-button-men. 🙏
I've been searching for months for an answer on if the drive hub that allows you to play any steering wheel on the Xbox and other systems is banned or not? It's April 2024 and I've not seen any updates anywhere and drivehub seems to have gone out of business apparently as well with no updates to anything 🙄
I hope they ban every single controller that's not a official XBOX controller because most third party controllers are complete garbage..I just play PC but support Microsoft and despise Sony, and Nintendo..
Ha, Funny Sony is so anti-consumer doubling the PS Plus prices. I really think for budget conscious gamers Xbox is the far superior platform has double the 120hz games too. Gamepass has games day and date like even Sony studio games like MLB the Show which is NOT in Sony's service you have to purchase separately. PC Gamepass missing some games and Console GP missing some PC games which is nice having both available. Also some of the older Xbox games you can at least stream on GP. Good thing that just being a GP member covers the cost of Ultimate with Microsoft rewards. Now that Activision Blizzard King is done you`ll see the housefire that is Sony go into a full meltdown and its already happing Bungie layoffs, TLOU Factions cancelled indefinitely , and Marathon Delayed, Destiny 2 Final Shape Delayed. I really think YOU need to Read the Room buddy love your videos but Sony is going to have to do a lot to right this ship and sadly I think its hit an iceberg. I have a custom fight stick that's old gen- and I use a brook converter- I really hope I do not get blocked because I`m not cheating just cheap. I do not want to spend another $200 usd on a stick, then import a new stick and buttons- Happy Gaming!
Some third party controllers will still work if they are licensed by xbox. That will cut out adapters and modded controllers because microsoft will continue to update their consoles that will eventually detect them.
sony has kept the industry back for awhile so i can never support sony., and talking about controllers.. what is a good budget ps5 controller? $70 first party? with a completely trash battery ?? inb4 rEcHaRaBlE tHo!1!!111!!! i would take being able to buy a $10 rechargable battery for xbox or use AAs instead of the 3-4 hours from duelsense and having to replace controller or take it apart to replace battery once it dies anyways PC ftw
No my friend anything that has that lime green circle on the box that says it’s officially licensed, so every controller I’ve reviewed for Xbox, you will be fine. Have a good day
Oh. Thank goodness. I think the unofficially licensed Xbox controllers being removed is kinda fair, because they should ask Xbox if they could use it for the console.
The only thing Xbox has going for it compared to the playstation, is Xbox internet connectivity is better, but playstation's everything else is better, but just go to PC console is dead in my opinion anyways, i wen from ps to xbox to pc.
I use wired controllers since they're cheaper to replace, and the wireless controller that came with the system has way too many problems for me to use it anymore. So I got especially worried about this news. Fortunately, the wired controller I got from GameStop still works. But the one I bought at a shop that buys and sells retro games is considered unauthorized, so I gotta return that one. So I figure lesson learned; only buy my wired controllers from GameStop. But part of me still can't help but fear that this might turn into a _"first they came for the socialists"_ scenario. Gamestop controllers are safe for now. but will they stay safe forever, or are my days playing Xbox One numbered?
You did your test too early the update isn't until Nov 12. The testing of the controllers was a test to see which controllers work before the update. I really don't give 2 shits about fighting games. We need a way to get rid of xim and zen in fps games. If that means some companies that do mods can't be used on Xbox. Than I'm 100% for it.
No Derrick, the whole reason those articles started popping up in the first place is the change has already started to be rolled out. Not to mention after the 12th all of my points in this video still stand. Have a great day Derick Mcafee
@GamerHeavenOfficial on Nov 12 when the update actually is released if the controllers and accessories that did work like say cronus no longer work, you will release a correction? Because if this doesn't ban cronus or xim, then gaming really is dead. If this fails to ban xim and zen. Then it's pointless 100%
@@DerickMcAfee These devices will still work on most people consoles because xbox are giving them a 2 week grace period. People will really find out on November 12th. I also think people that like to cheat will find a way around it. That is why it upset them so much.
