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@Volthoom
@Volthoom 7 лет назад
The Chosen being the three rescuee from Progeny would undeniably be genius continuity-wise.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Volthoom really hope it is so!
@Volthoom
@Volthoom 7 лет назад
Then again, the game has continuity hiccups already, for example, the Temple Ship is nowhere to be found :D Unless the base underwater in the final mission of Xcom2 IS actually the Temple Ship. Also, what are the odds of us learning Vahlen's fate in this expansion :D
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Volthoom the Temple Ship looks insanely much like the ship at the end of Terror of the Deep, and that ship was the underwater base... I think :) regarding Vahlen, hopefully we will get some more hints - I have a theory that she may still be alive...
@TheGamerAdventurersX
@TheGamerAdventurersX 6 лет назад
the hunter was a reaper wasn't it? from the archives Iv'e read
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+L0gicWülf Schulman yes, but do we know his real name when he was a human? I still feel they could very well be the Furies of old... There are no corpses in the furies location when you find their holding pods.
@NakedAvanger
@NakedAvanger 6 лет назад
They were human The warlock said something in the lines of "to think I used to be human like you, pitiful unworthy creatures" Which blew me away and pretty much confirmed it
@muriloantonio3148
@muriloantonio3148 4 года назад
Yes the sniper also says something like this is the first time I had such fun since i was human
@soulwinds4744
@soulwinds4744 4 года назад
Murilo Antonio i think it’s been confirmed in Xcom factions that the hunter is a former reaper captured by mox when he was still advent
@Ushasty_Yozh_Egipetski
@Ushasty_Yozh_Egipetski 4 года назад
"You succumb to the failings of your humanity" That's what Elder says to the remaining Chosen when one of them dies. So, yes, basically they were human.
@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593
@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 3 года назад
Soo yeah they've always confirmed that they were human once
@sh4rk535
@sh4rk535 2 года назад
If you look in the commanders quarters and then the xcom archives you can actually see the backstory on how the chosen were created
@kenkaneki3873
@kenkaneki3873 7 лет назад
God damn it's a missed opportunity to not have some way of making the Hunter our ally. He clearly doesn't give a fuck about the Ethereal lol.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
Yeah he is the disobedient child for sure ;) haha
@DanielGalllego
@DanielGalllego 7 лет назад
is stated that he has pased some time between humans, so i think is normal that he kinds of imitates our individuality
@kenkaneki3873
@kenkaneki3873 7 лет назад
Daniel Gallego Ospina But technically he has no intentions of obeying the Ethereals besides... whatever they did to him when he started to roast them lol.
@DanielGalllego
@DanielGalllego 7 лет назад
he seem to be the brother of the middle, the bullied rebel one that seeks atention and aproval from his "fathers" so, even so that he gets some of humanity individuality he stil is not only under the control of the ethereals but search their aceptance
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Ken Kaneki it was a surprising roast TBH - he has gall :D
@kryskiller666
@kryskiller666 5 лет назад
In the XCOM 2 Factions comic, it's confirmed that the Hunter used to be a Reaper. He was captured, mind-probed, modified and turned into whatever he is now, a charming motherfucker that snipes through the map.
@kryskiller666
@kryskiller666 4 года назад
@Federico Guelfo Fan-fiction? It's licensed and published by the creators of XCOM 2, it would be stated somewhere if it WASN'T canon. However, type "is XCOM 2 Factions canon" on Google and you won't find shit. It's not even the only book about Xcom, and I doubt they're all non-canon.
@niveknaylik531
@niveknaylik531 3 года назад
@@kryskiller666 Also, there is "logs" in the XCOM 2 game, in the commander quarter, you have some lore. And you unlock some of them when you complete missions (like genetic data and all, the name of the retrieved files in the mission strangely stay the same) and when you read it, you get some infos on the Hunter. In the game, it's confirmed he is a former Reaper indeed. And being in the game, it's 100% canon.
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 6 лет назад
In the mission against the Warlock's stronghold, one of the possible lines he can say actually suggests that he used to be a human. I don't remember the exact quote but it's something like, "I can't believe I used to consider myself as one of you."
@Impossible_Pete
@Impossible_Pete 6 лет назад
Firock Finion the Hunter says something about this as well. He mentions something along the lines of "losing his humanity", I don't remember the exact quote.
@Shadowhunterbg
@Shadowhunterbg 5 лет назад
The Hunter was a Reaper that suddently vanished and never was found by his people.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 5 лет назад
Yeah, unfortunately - I think the background stories for each could have been better with my theory, but oh well :)
@calebb7012
@calebb7012 6 лет назад
All 3 of the Chosen and even Elders refer to the fact they were once human.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
Indeed they do - unfortunately not the humans I wanted them to be, but ok :D
@calebb7012
@calebb7012 6 лет назад
I was hoping they'd have some tie in to EU, :( aww well.
@peterdavis9760
@peterdavis9760 6 лет назад
Before the War of the Chosen DLC, when you find the Furies scanning site, the bodies are still there (you / the investigation team triggers the execution trap, or whatever) If it's been changed, then chances are you're dead right about the chosen being the furies.
@Zoey--
@Zoey-- 7 лет назад
I honestly hadn't considered the furies in the Xcom2 timeline. I'd say you're 100% onto something and these soldiers are more than likely the three furies with the story reworked to fit the idea of the Chosen. This would explain how psionically gifted the chosen are and my suspicion is these three candidates would have been the perfect avatar prototypes. After all you don't start a project as immense and globe spanning as the avatar project without first running viability tests! The furies being the template for the future avatar project would to me be an insanely awesome tie in with lore from the last game.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Matt F I really hope I'm right about this as well - how awesome would that be come release :D
@kevin1355
@kevin1355 7 лет назад
That's a really interesting idea with Progeny
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
Thanks Kevin :)
@jordanintheflesh2589
@jordanintheflesh2589 7 лет назад
No only interesting but mind blowing. Annette's 3 friends are the chosen? I was thinking they were human but that shit is crazy
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Jordan in the flesh it's a theory at least - we will know more when the game is released :)
@epgbros
@epgbros 7 лет назад
ANNETTE IS (I can bet my life on it!) GEIST, THE LEADER OF THE TEMPLARS!
@IchiroFuma
@IchiroFuma 7 лет назад
The Epic Game Faggots That's what I've been thinking. Even EW, she kind of breaks out without XCOM doing anything. It's rather possible that in the XCOM 2 timeline, she escapes on her own, and further hones her gifts on her own/with others similar to her.
@talion2226
@talion2226 6 лет назад
Prety much proven now as the elders say to them after one of them dies that they are feeling emotion and they should 'relinquish their humanity'.
@Cynicz13
@Cynicz13 7 лет назад
This theory actually makes a lot of sense. It also has a sort of symmetry with the expansion Enemy Within that is simply really cool. Honestly both this and the asaru theory are extremely interesting ideas and could very easily fit into the xcom lore so I hope you're right on this.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Cynicz13 thank you so much - It means a lot to me with comments like this :)
@nephiuma3766
@nephiuma3766 7 лет назад
I have to agree, you are on to something, but I have a feeling that the sniper is Megaera while the warlock is Alecto.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+torres dominguez that is likely - hope I'm right about some of it :)
@Stuurminator
@Stuurminator 6 лет назад
Magaera and Tisiphone were the (implied) siblings in Enemy Within, and the Hunter explicitly refers to the Assassin as "sister" in the trailer? It's possible. They're certainly more physically similar to each other than they are to the Warlock.
@Oriaks
@Oriaks 6 лет назад
warlock was captured by advent when he was a child and assassin was created from scratch, so neither of them can be the fury
@everyman1983
@everyman1983 5 лет назад
I remember the progeny story, and yes I know for a fact that the warlock admits he was once a human on the mission you kill him. In fact all those missions really help you understand who they are, since they say so much. Great origin!
@Jesper987654321
@Jesper987654321 7 лет назад
Said "Megaera" Tariq and Fatima "Tisiphone" Tariq from xcom EW have the same last name so maybe that's why he said sister
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Yesper indeed, that could be :)
@AltFromTheLimbo
@AltFromTheLimbo 6 лет назад
Played XCOM2WotC and Warlock just said something like "I was consider myself as one of your race...but it was long time ago" , at least as I recall it
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Alt Limbo they were indeed humans once, but it seems they are seperate from the Furies :( I still like my theory though :)
@erikteddyerikfogtlangeheda5460
Yet another Amazing theory, a bit on the shorter end because of the lack of material available to us. I'll keep this theory in mind while playing war of the chosen.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Erik Teddy thank you Erik, it means a lot to me :) Yeah I wish I had some more to pull in, but for now we will see when we get in game - hope I'm right :)
@erikteddyerikfogtlangeheda5460
I hope so too. Also, this theory doesn't disqualify your other theory because the captives could just have been recaptured.
@NovaCaneKills11
@NovaCaneKills11 7 лет назад
a fascinating theory. I would actually like it to be true, a dark twist on some old friends
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+NovaCaneKills11 exactly, can't wait to explore the game!
@shadowstrider8295
@shadowstrider8295 5 лет назад
Reapers: Hunter Skirmisher: Assassin Templars: Warlock Warlock: Eldest son Hunter: Middle child Assassin: Youngest daughter
@mikeestvanik
@mikeestvanik 2 года назад
Could the furies be the other avatars we face off against in the story
@samtvgamer8867
@samtvgamer8867 3 года назад
Watching this in 2020 and when you started saying spoilers i was like finished it, finished it
@nikolajsteffensen6578
@nikolajsteffensen6578 6 лет назад
well i recently read through the chosen files. and found some interesting stuff. for one. the warlock is the oldest of the three and was apparently raised and experimented on from a young age. never stated how young though so he might have been one of the furies. the hunter is possibly a former reaper operative. captured and brainwashed into the service of the elders. and the assassin? she's a flash clone who was turned chosen.
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 6 лет назад
Someone asked them in the Q&A if the Furies were the chosen. Jake said no.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Bacxaber yeah, unfortunately they didn't go down that path - I still think they could though...
@DaddyHensei
@DaddyHensei 6 лет назад
When I fought the hunter, he said he used to be human. Or something close to that.
@kakashi0909
@kakashi0909 3 года назад
Duuuuuuude. This is so ballzy sound theory man. I really thought it was van doom, zhang, and annette thats the chosens. Man your theory has more ground than high ground
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 3 года назад
Thank you so much! Imho it would have been so much cooler! :)
@kingbubbles9461
@kingbubbles9461 6 лет назад
I think Tisiphone or vengeful destruction, applies to the warlock, “FOR EACH CHILD OF THE ELDERS SLAUGHTERED, HUMANITY WILL PAY A TALLY, IN FLESH!!!”
@flagg1129b
@flagg1129b 5 лет назад
Holly $#!+... what a great theory. Blew the top off my head. Thx for the Video.
@carterwillis6624
@carterwillis6624 5 лет назад
The Warlock states that he used to be a human in dialogue
@kevincandelario2573
@kevincandelario2573 7 лет назад
makes sense. I always just assumed they were fully grown avatars. since the avatar autopsy said they were incomplete and have a mask with white hair. the warlock has white hair, and would not be able to blend in with a face like that thus the mask
@DrownedInExile
@DrownedInExile 5 лет назад
I think you're right on the money!
@snowranger19
@snowranger19 6 лет назад
The Chosen were human at one point. There's some talk when you invade the Warlock where he states something like "I can't believe I once considered myself part of your race".
@jaderoses1477
@jaderoses1477 5 лет назад
Basically the hunter is basically a game hunter, like a human game hunter. The assassin could’ve been a former Xcom member from unknown (actually all of them could because Xcom has all of those) and the warlock could’ve been the “gift” or the first Psionic human
@disastrousdwarf
@disastrousdwarf 3 года назад
Did you know that originally a 4th faction and chosen was intended to be added but was scrapped due to time constraints. This 4th chosen would have lined up with Annette.
@huleinpylo3906
@huleinpylo3906 6 лет назад
Actually makes more sense
@centurionzen1005
@centurionzen1005 Год назад
I was wondering who the chosen are *in function*. Are they a paramilitary government agency With their own forces, a rogue Army or are they high ranking officers of the standard peacekeepers?
@goblinanno8500
@goblinanno8500 5 лет назад
if you read about the Chosen in the Commander's Archives/Logs (or something like that) there is an entry about every chosen. Yes, they were humans.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 5 лет назад
Yup, remember my video is before the release of the game, so noone knew :)
@goblinanno8500
@goblinanno8500 5 лет назад
Oh, now I see. Thanks^^
@Siriathion
@Siriathion 3 года назад
In the cutscene after the first Chosen is killed, the Elders say that the Chosen have "Succumbed to the failings of their humanity." Along with the lines that the warlock says during the assault on his hideout, where he pretty much admits to having been human once, I think it's pretty definite, that the Chosen were once human. Them being the Furies is a bit more of a stretch, but I can see the evidence and it is indeed compelling. You very well might be right!
@DarthBodya
@DarthBodya 6 лет назад
By the way...I think Hunter and Assassin are actually twins, because when I save in that mission women and man have same second name Tariq. I wonder what happend then with Durand, that french woman with psi-powers?
@jamesstewart6904
@jamesstewart6904 7 лет назад
they could very well be avatars but from unseen races that had been already concured
@Someone-sq8im
@Someone-sq8im 7 лет назад
I think that when Commander was captured, the Ethereals made copies of his conscience/cloned him if he were an Ethereal. The consciences/clones were paired/merged with a manufactured "super human". Each conscience/clone was unique: one was psionically gifted and acted like the boss, this became the Warlock; one was angry and rebellious, this became the Hunter; and one was loyal and clear-thinking, this became the Assassin
@chrisdixon892
@chrisdixon892 6 лет назад
Now that it's out more information was given in the commanders quarters. Goes into small exerts of their creation. Can't wait till enemy from the deep
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Chris Dixon Yeah, same here - there is no doubt in my mind that XCOM 3 will be a rendition of that (without underwater combat, as Jake don't like that)
@talion2226
@talion2226 6 лет назад
Game kNight i quite liked TfTD though, oh well
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Kieran McCabe oh, same here.. Have really fond memories of the game :)
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Kieran McCabe have you guys checked out Phoenix Point? I have a video on it in the Indie playlist :)
@snowranger19
@snowranger19 6 лет назад
TFTD had some nice above-water combat as well. I really loved the terror attacks on the big ships.
@bluezeroeight2307
@bluezeroeight2307 6 лет назад
Holy shit! I think you're on to something dude!
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+BlueZeroEight - Gaming and More right! I can't WAIT to see if I'm right about this :D I think, when the Templar leader Geist is revealed, it will be Anette, one of the first Psionically gifted, and that could cement my theory! Thanks for watching!
@sortehuse
@sortehuse 6 лет назад
Some fun observations
@kyc2320
@kyc2320 7 лет назад
Interesting idea, I thought the Chosen are hybrids of many different alien species we've seen. Now what species idk yet sadly
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+King_Ky's Reign thanks - that could be as well, a spliced race of many good (and bad) races.
@PaulReinerfelt
@PaulReinerfelt 6 лет назад
If the Chosen are identical to the Furies is undetermined (but an interesting and fascinating theory). What can be said is that there are strong hints that they actually _are_ mutated/changed humans! During the assault of its base, the Warlock states -"To think that I once counted myself among your race. You seem so pathetically primitive now" [might not have been verbatim but close enough], strongly suggesting that he was human once! (And if he was, the others probably are as well.)
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Paul Reinerfelt Thank you for the kind and sensible words! I really wanted this theory to be true, despite the Hunter formerly being a reaper and the Warlock was taken as a child, I like my idea better... Like my other Theory I'm just going to say, that in MY timeline, they are the Furies :)
@peppiping
@peppiping 7 лет назад
I think the chosen are those psionic prisoners from progeny who had their dna mixed with the elders, thus they're "children" because they carry some of their dna and it would explain why they're so powerful in terms of psionics
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Einar Styrmisson I think we nailed it! Here is hoping!
@Aderask
@Aderask 4 года назад
The Chosen to me are just humans who are mutated to be great warriors for the Elders. They each have dialouge referencing how they abhor how the Commander for rejecting the gifts thu received.
@huston831
@huston831 7 лет назад
well this is something. it is a good idea. it dose make since. the classes those got where sniper, assault, and support. and they all where psi troopers.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+huston831 glad you liked it :) Thanks for watching :)
@Cadiangrunt99
@Cadiangrunt99 7 лет назад
Makes sense to me.
@horzinesecurityagent1732
@horzinesecurityagent1732 2 года назад
as much as I love the hunter im sad to say he really is a push over like i really just wanted to let him go at 1 point or i wish their was some special ending where if you din't destroy thier strongholds you sort of saved them or something idk im known in my friend group for bad ideas.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 7 лет назад
I'm convinced this is true. my only remaining question is what happened to Annette? with the loss of xcom its probable going to be a sad outcome
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+yiggdrasill on the Steam forum someone suggedted that she may be knvolved in forming the Templars :) I like that thought :)
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 7 лет назад
same here. it could be why they are telling us so little about them so far
@UndeadDragonWarrior
@UndeadDragonWarrior 7 лет назад
Facial structures are extremely similar, only the texture and aesthetic features separate them, I think they are clones.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+, I left you a comment. Clones is a good guess as well! Lover your handle :D
@Bacxaber
@Bacxaber 7 лет назад
"Good to see you, sister."
@jand.4737
@jand.4737 7 лет назад
Possible. I can't confirm the classes, but in general it is a possibility. Otherwhise it could have nothing to do with each other. While ... If your theory about Progeny is right, what happened to Annete Durand? A fourth secret Chosen or at least a Dlc-Chosen?
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Kapitän JadeDejavu on steam TraderGy suggested that maybe she is either ghe founder of the Templars or maybe the first one we find?
@Zoey--
@Zoey-- 7 лет назад
That would be the sickest tie in for her :D
@dinosaurfan123
@dinosaurfan123 7 лет назад
You know, I think you might be on to something. I think that the class correlation could be a bit more than a coincidence. I mean, the Sniper and Hunter are both known for their sniper rifles, the Assault uses shotguns and was succeeded by the Ranger which also uses swords and other melee weapons like the Assassin and since I don't think the aliens would be too keen on any sort of support class (just count all of their units that focus primarily on support) that would leave the person who would later be referred to as the Warlock to focus on their psionic potential. I'm so convinced by this that unless directly told otherwise I'm going to say this is the case
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+dinosaurfan123 thank you! Glad you liked it, even if it isn't what the devs thought I feel it is warrented :)
@kataimason3230
@kataimason3230 Год назад
I hope in x com 3 we get psionic soldier that can do what the chosen can do.
@XIsleTheWanderer
@XIsleTheWanderer Год назад
The Chosen were each picked from their "sects", and crafted into the Chosen. The Hunter, specifically, was a Reaper that was taken captive on a mission, and then crafted into the Chosen Hunter, in order to take out the Reapers. The Warlock was a Templar, and the Assassin was a Skirmisher. There's a comic book about it.
@XIsleTheWanderer
@XIsleTheWanderer Год назад
Just now realizing how old this video is. Idk if the comic was out back then 😅
@darkinnovator2479
@darkinnovator2479 6 лет назад
I once heard a rumor that they intended there to be a Fourth Chosen.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Garin Jones yeah, and some theorize about it being the commander :)
@darkinnovator2479
@darkinnovator2479 6 лет назад
Ha, they could have moved on to a new test subject. Or they intended for there to be five, the Commander being the Fifth and their leader. Entirely possible that subject no. 4 is out there, just independent and a powerful wild one. A good choice for the Fourth One, would be the psionic character, "The Volunteer", who activated the Gallop Chamber in XCOM1. The character, after all, disappeared after blowing up the Temple Ship. It could have been this character, or the would-be "Volunteer", captured when the base fell. I see the Chosen as not a failed version of Project Avatar, but a success, as in they are the success in building a body for the Elders but a failure in that their will is far too strong in which the Elders could come to inhabit their bodies. Hence, in respect to that, the Elders consider them their "children".
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
Garin Jones yeah, that could be - my other theory has him/her as the Commander in XCOM 2 though :D The next one will be less head canon although if one needs to speculate, one needs to add some head canon :)
@darkinnovator2479
@darkinnovator2479 6 лет назад
For some reason, I think the Fourth Chosen may be the General of the bunch. Less Assassin or Sorcerer, more overwhelming Psionic-boosted powerhouse. Kinda like the Valkyria from Valkyria Chronicles.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Garin Jones if that rumor had been there at the making of this Theory, I would have put my money on Anette Durand! I still think this theory would have been cooler than 3 random humans... But oh well..
@MrRodger07
@MrRodger07 7 лет назад
When were you planning on doing the playthrough? Cuz I could make quite a few characters with decent backstories. Is there a limit to how many characters we can create?
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+MrRodger07 starting recording on the 28th, and any bin file characters will be added right away for the current playthrough. I'm limiting it at 2 pr. Person :)
@MrRodger07
@MrRodger07 7 лет назад
Thanks, was wanting to know. And I already made my two then. Hopefully you pick them. They are a ranger/sharpshooter husband/wife team. Or at least that is what they hopefully become since I did not know how to do the whole bin file thing. I play on computers I don't know how they work , that is my defense and I am sticking to it.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+MrRodger07 that is so cool :) I'll start creating some of the submitted characters this weekend :) The roster is filling up :) Maybe I should do a quick guide to exporting characters? It makes you guyd able to get the exact look you are going for, and makes my life easier :D
@MrRodger07
@MrRodger07 7 лет назад
Yeah, that would be fantastic, then with your permission I could resubmit my duo. I have both of them wearing Halo armor though because it looks so freaking cool and makes both of them look so badass. And then you can redo their backstory with the one I supplied when I first submitted them. Which would make them that much cooler.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+MrRodger07 yeah go ahead :)
@obliviousnaga2633
@obliviousnaga2633 7 лет назад
Isn't the speaker aka a thin man supposed to be the first non elder alien we speak to
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Borgadn Rager true, we do speak with him, but kn the end it is (mostly) the Elder we communicate with, so I just picked one :)
@D00M3R_MAVS
@D00M3R_MAVS 7 лет назад
yeah, that makes sense. all of the furies had psi-capabilities though (albeit latent) do the "chosen" all have psi powers?
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Herald Of Nurgle the stealth of the Assassin seem very likely to be a psi power and the ressurection ability of the hunter also :)
@D00M3R_MAVS
@D00M3R_MAVS 7 лет назад
yeah, upon further inspection they do all seems to have the visual effects of psi powers. They also have a purple hew to their skin which could be a clue.
@l.warner3951
@l.warner3951 7 лет назад
Alright, sounds good. My idea is their the children of the Commander.
@Ambu570
@Ambu570 Год назад
I thinck they do tell You they we're humans, i remenber a line of dialogue some of them have that pretty much tell You they we're like you, humans
@isaacdestura7495
@isaacdestura7495 3 года назад
my guess is that they're willing human collaborates who were imbued with Elder DNA
@NealjanYT
@NealjanYT 3 года назад
Not shure If you still read the new comments Here but thats a really Genius Idea i never thinked of that But it would make sense sinse the people Like Annette from enemy within also have strong Psi powers
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 3 года назад
Thank you :) I hoped it was what they would reveal the lore to be... Instead it was just random people :( And yes, I read all comments :)
@wearelegion5533
@wearelegion5533 6 лет назад
Or the chooses are the "Avatar" projects of another species. there are three of them because the rest of the population were processed just like how the Aliens were processing humans to create our versions of the "chosen".
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 года назад
What I always imagined, is that the Chosen are not chosen by the Ethereals, but they themselves made a choice. Members of a race so powerful and violent the Ethereals never could subdue, but who were destroyed so no one could oppose the Ethereals. The Chosen are simply powerful members who chose to join the Ethereals for their own reasons before the choice of annihilation was made. They wanted power, and did not care of their people, so they do not complain. There may be others, but these three are also chosen, once Earth is fully taken, one of them is allowed to rule Earth, if they succeed. But only the strongest may do so, and they have to survive battles, and in the end, kill each others. Obviously not supported by the clues given by the game, but I liked my version a lot too.
@TheMidnighttea
@TheMidnighttea 7 лет назад
One extra thing to keep in mind -- all three are guaranteed to have great psionic potential once you have the psi lab, pretty much locking in the Support as a likely warlock of sorts. Your theory seems overwhelmingly likely to be true to me because the Chosen fit the male-male-female setup. And as you said, their classes fit closely. One more thing to keep in mind is that XCOM 2 did actively choose to draw attention to the Furies. It would've been no big deal if there was no scannable event giving some foreshadowing or closure. After all, we don't find out what happens to Zhang or other loose ends, but they chose to keep the Furies in our minds still. If it pans out this way, it will definitely make going back to play EW very interesting if you recruit this trio.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Midnight Tea glad you agree! I really hope I'm right as that would be so awesome to have 'seen' before the devs revealed it :D
@FBI-ju5no
@FBI-ju5no 6 лет назад
i thought that the Chosen were simply hybrids with ethereal dna. kinda like how all the rest of the enemies in the game have been using human dna to even be made in the first place/enhanced. i mean they kinda look like them from the previous game, just with mouths, and only one set of arms.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
Nope, they are Humans modified by the Ethereals, probably by way of Psionic energy and their own DNA as you stated. The other enemies you encounter are all subjugated species, not creations of the Ethereals. The only exception is the new Greys (which is a mistake I think!)
@emiremi2486
@emiremi2486 6 лет назад
They are ethereals's children
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Hubi Bubi they sure act like kids! I wonder how Ethereals propagate :P
@talion2226
@talion2226 6 лет назад
Game kNight idk but if you want to know im sure you can find it on rule 34
@900mrm009
@900mrm009 6 лет назад
I think they might be human once that the elders deemed worthy of their power. Kinda like the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse but there are only three. Why? Because I think the Commander is the supposed to be the fourth chosen but was rescued by xcom and they are willing to use any means necessary to retrieve the commander. And at some point in the game the hunter will say "I gave up my humanity for this..." so I guess they might be willing or something? Idunno. That's just what I think
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Mark Miaral awesome thoughts, thanks for sharing!
@Budumpum
@Budumpum 6 лет назад
Interesting theory which makes a lot of sense. Except one flaw...at 2:47 Warlock says "They called upon us ONCE MORE". Since they haven't been in a battle over the Earth before, it must mean that they fought a war somewhere else, presumably on one of the planets Elders conquered before arriving to the Earth. If that so, Chosen are made from one of the other races, not human.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
Apparently the Chosen were Humans, used in the takeover of Earth when XCOM fell. They were, however, taken away from the streets when the focus became assimilating the public rather than scaring them. Thus the normal troopers were instated that looked more human.
@InSecretRising
@InSecretRising 6 лет назад
Yesterday when i raided the warlocks stronghold. One of his comments were (that he is embarrassed, that he originated from human kind) along the lines. Im playing the german version btw.
@Budumpum
@Budumpum 6 лет назад
So maybe you're right, who knows 😊 If he actually says he's from human, then there's no argument left. Do me a favour and next time you two speak, tell him humans are embarrassed too that he's one of us... Probably used to be a politic or something 😃
@zacharyroussie4746
@zacharyroussie4746 7 лет назад
I think the chosen we're built from the ground up by the ethereal genetic engineering, which is why there are only three. They were made with a mix of all sorts of dna
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+juan muffin that could also be, just a bit boring like with the 'they are a new species" It may well JUST be that, but we can always hope the designers chose a bit more clever way :)
@BT-2013
@BT-2013 7 лет назад
It definitely sounds like it connects. So, the assassin is...Antoinette?
@ncmtr
@ncmtr 7 лет назад
no she is dead she escapes the truck but exaut gun her down ;3
@synthwavesmatter8466
@synthwavesmatter8466 4 года назад
They used to be human. When you kill the assassin, the elders tell the other chosen "you succumb to the failings of your humanity" its pretty blatant.
@fraud291
@fraud291 7 лет назад
the jig is up he got it
@VodkaCouch
@VodkaCouch 7 лет назад
Well, we know that the Ethereals travelled from world to world... We have no idea how many they have travelled to. How many enemies do they still have in other galaxies or whatnot. How many races have they actually purged, and how many races still fight back alive and well.... Are there any other empires out there with massive ships that fight toe to toe with the Ethereals. Its such a vast universe with great potential.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Lord Sandro I agree, they could be another alien race that we haven't heard about... I just like my theory more :D
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 7 лет назад
Speaking of travelling from world to world - how large is their empire? I mean the name Andromedon kinda worries me. Do they own several Galaxies? Female Chosen said that Elders' rule extends through the Universe.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Steel Bear yeah, if you look at the races they have subdued, their rule extends light-years, since there are so many different ones. What one could fear the most, is what they are fighting against... Must be something terrifying indeed! ;)
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 7 лет назад
I feel like XCOM 3's plot will be "yep, XCOM screwed up again"
@FeCyrineu
@FeCyrineu 6 лет назад
If you read the XCOM archives files about the chosen, I think it preety much confirms the fact they used to be human.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
Indeed - this videobwas made before the expansion hit :) Unfortunately they weren't the humans I had hoped they were...
@jmneo4635
@jmneo4635 6 лет назад
It would have been awesome if Annette durand appeared as a Hero/Special soldier in this DLC tying to free her friends from the elders... Annette part of that DLC in Enemy within right?
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+john madrid yep, she was :) I was hoping she would be revealed as Geist, instead they went with a noname character... Could have been a nice twist if it was her...
@jmneo4635
@jmneo4635 6 лет назад
Game kNight yep its a shame, she could have easily joined the templars or even just a solo hero with amazing/ unique psionic abilities.
@caad5258
@caad5258 7 лет назад
Plausible, but I feel that the Warlock and Assassin wouldn't profess to be so willing to serve the elders if they had memories of being human. Also they have a distinct age difference between the warlock and the others, which conflicts with the furies being roughly the same age. Ultimately,they are creations of the ethereals, im not sure if fireaxis needs to explain/ add story to them anymore than that.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Ca Ad while they don't it would be nice if they did. Any idiot can invent something new and say: oh, these are here now. The really good designer links the stories together, creating an intricate web for us to uncover.
@D00M3R_MAVS
@D00M3R_MAVS 7 лет назад
PS: can I just give you a name and a bio or something to get a character in the game? I'm not sure how to upload a file of a character to give you.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Herald Of Nurgle check out my website, I've descriped the process there :) bin file upload are guaranteed to be in the charcterpool from day one :)
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Herald Of Nurgle and if my description on my website don't make sense, let me know or join our discord and ask in the #XCOM2 channel :)
@D00M3R_MAVS
@D00M3R_MAVS 7 лет назад
thanks. I made a couple of cool looking cyber ninja/rangers. One uses the advent scout hooded helmet thing (it looks like a mix between something from destiny and isac's mask from dead space) custom camo mod and one that add's a sort of teal colour to the pallet, so I assume they are pretty standard mods TBH. Anyway I'll either use one of those and write a bio, or make a new one. (probably will make a new one in a new save with the "million colour's" mod so I can can tweak the colours properly) I used to do custom cars in GTA V back on the PS3, and messing with the colours along with the decals and messing with the pearlecant's was like my number one skill... ha ha. My crew had me just to pimp rides, my aim was terrible (we played free aim)
@D00M3R_MAVS
@D00M3R_MAVS 7 лет назад
PS: you need to make a psi trooper called "Psiren" as well. Best name.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Herald Of Nurgle oh god yes - beautiful pun!!
@TelekineticKhai
@TelekineticKhai 7 лет назад
Sounds very convincing.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Khairuddin Haji Mohamed thanks buddy, we will know more as soon as we start the campaign, I can't wait!
@alexandrecharest4853
@alexandrecharest4853 6 лет назад
I had the same theory HAHAHAHA there behavior was to human the way they argue. I also have the crazy theory that ethereal are human for either the future or another timeline,
@alexandrecharest4853
@alexandrecharest4853 6 лет назад
Has proof you have all the insinuation when you reverse engineer the alien. In xcom Vahlen accentuate how you become like the alien.
@alexandrecharest4853
@alexandrecharest4853 6 лет назад
And the ethereal there hate against human is SOO human like if there hate themself they hate there body and search to to modified them become something else. In XCOM 2 they combine DNA of the sectoid with human. how in the universe 2 differents species could combine there DNA you could argue its meld but think about it , if you graft a arm from the same specie there is a risk of reject soo 2 differents species wouldnt match at all!
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
I just really wish they had taken the three I thought they stemmed from - instead of three random humans :P Can't have it all :P
@IchiroFuma
@IchiroFuma 7 лет назад
What if Vallhen helped create the Chosen? We do know that she has a thing for messing with aliens in batches of 3. Lol
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+IchiroFuma :D That could be - since we don't exactly know her whereabouts... Someone should do an #XCOMTheory about that ;)
@FibroidAuto
@FibroidAuto 4 года назад
One question why does the warlock turn to stone when he permanently dies when the others just die and leave a normal dead body
@sectoid-with-internet-access
@sectoid-with-internet-access 3 года назад
Maybe because of his psionic powers?
@FibroidAuto
@FibroidAuto 3 года назад
Just a sectoid with internet access but why would his psionic make him turn to stone when he dies?
@sectoid-with-internet-access
@sectoid-with-internet-access 3 года назад
@FibroidAuto5900 I don’t know. That was first theory that got into my mind why he turns into stone
@FibroidAuto
@FibroidAuto 3 года назад
Just a sectoid with internet access makes some sense
@longislandlegoboy
@longislandlegoboy 7 лет назад
My theory is the chosen are lesser beings from the home planet as the ethereals. The entire species was wiped out by the ethereals, except for these few who pledged allegiance to the ethereals. When they say "greatest creation" it's genetic modification. Kinda fits with their purple skin. Though yours is pretty damn good and canonically accurate, this time lol.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+poke thanks buddy :)
@gazgemauch2053
@gazgemauch2053 3 года назад
besides the chosen warlock dropping alot of hints to them once being human, there is also (Spoiler) when one of them dies and gets mourned at the elders, the ethereal gets angry, saying the interesting line "you have succumbed to the failings of your humanity, you squander our gift to you" with another interesting line "what was given can be taken away" implying the ethereals might've been able to turn the chosen back into weak humans, taking away all their powers
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 3 года назад
Yeah :) Remember this video was before the game was even released :) Lots of things were made clear when the game was released :D
@abusedumpster8882
@abusedumpster8882 7 лет назад
I had the same idea about them being the three people from Progeny a couple of days ago. It certainly fits, however i'm not so sure about the personalities lining up. The Assassin seems to be angry all the time, so she would match closer with Alecto. beyond that though, I can't really tell. She doesn't seem to have an opinion on the Elders like her brothers, but on a livestream either Jake Solomon or Garth DeAngelis mentioned that she was very honorable (which is ironic considering she's an ASSASSIN.) The Warlock and Hunter don't strike me as fitting into any of the three personalities described. The Warlock is definitely not jealous, nor does he seem angry, until the Elder's power is questioned. The most noticeable things about him are his loyalty and his arrogance. He believes the Elders are Gods, and so he considers himself a God as well, as they call him and his siblings their Children. The Hunter, on the other hand, seems rebellious. He's the first to make a threat against his siblings, and when the Warlock attempts to pacify the situation he fires back with a quip about the Elders, knowing it would make his brother angry. He then has the balls to outright disrespect the Elder TO HER FACE (in a hologram, but still, her face). Maybe he hates them all for some reason, maybe he just knows they won't kill him after all the effort he went through to create him, or maybe hes just an asshole. Their personalities don't really line up with the Furies as you described, however I do believe that if they aren't the genetically modified Furies from EW, then the Furies were at least a part of the process to making the Chosen as they are today.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
Funny thing about the Warlock, I don't think he is jealous of his siblings, but of the Elders - he knows not to question them to their face, but he does state at one point that he is/will be stronger than his masters. I think his jealousy lies there. Relentless destruction does fit the assassin I feel, she may be honorsble, but not towards her masters enemies... Nor does she fight fair (invisibility isn't really fair) The hunter seems angry, with everyone, his siblings he wants to kill, 'it would be so easy' to kill her! He seems mad at the Elders and because of it he becomes disobedient.. I feel the personalities fit just fine, but I also see hour points :) Thanks for chiming in!!
@abusedumpster8882
@abusedumpster8882 7 лет назад
Hmmm. I see your point. I have a feeling their origins may be revealed during some of the story mission in WotC, so we'll just have to wait. For what is going to be a very, very, very long month and a half.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Bootyhunter834 Gaming oh yeah, the wait is unbearable TBH!
@SaltyRocksPew
@SaltyRocksPew 7 лет назад
I still have questions about vipers that have yet to be answered. Like, if they were thin men why cant they leap like thin men, Why is their plasma rifle weaker?(no plus 10 aim bonus like the LPR) and most importantly if they are reptiles why do they have boobs? Im pretty sure boobage is a mammalian species exclusive. Do a theory on vipers we need to know this is the most pressing of issues
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Shadow Kitsune haha, that is a good point, the boobage :D May just cover that ;)
@zacharystearns3022
@zacharystearns3022 6 лет назад
It makes sense if the chosen were humans because the ethereals are constantly saying,”your humanity” and would make sense for why the hunter is rebellious he knows he was a human, he doesn’t have the same respect for the ethereals because they mutated him into what he is
@0.001mm_tolerancy
@0.001mm_tolerancy 5 лет назад
Warlock stated that he was once human
@aloser8703
@aloser8703 6 лет назад
I didn't agree with the ethereal video but this one seems spot on.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+A loser thanks :)
@onyxrose4349
@onyxrose4349 7 лет назад
Good theory, the only problem I can really see is it seems like the Chosen have a lot of history, more than could be fit into the years between XCOM EU/EW and XCOM 2.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Onyx Rose I don't feel that has been indicated. They were used to cull the population of Earth and then not used until now - that is all we are told, so far :) It's just a theory:)
@onyxrose4349
@onyxrose4349 7 лет назад
Well, we will find out more once the expansion is out. It will be interesting to know that if your theory is right, what have they been doing the entire time between the games?
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Onyx Rose sitting idle I guess after having fulfilled their purpose, with the Elders believing that they were safe.
@onyxrose4349
@onyxrose4349 7 лет назад
Perhaps Earth isn't the only place their invading? After all, they have practically an infinite amount of soldiers so why not invade multiple planets? It would be interesting if they decided to go with that because it raises the possibility of gaining cool alien allies that we haven't seen before. The Chosen may have been leading said invasion after Earth lost the first invasion.
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 7 лет назад
They had 20 years after XCOM Eu. Plenty of time to make history between three guys
@titytitmk2738
@titytitmk2738 7 лет назад
The Vipers/snakemen joined with the Ethereals willingly as well, so there is precedent for aliens joining the Ethereals willingly. II think the Vipers/Snakemen surrendered very quickly when the Ethereals arrived. That, coupled with their lack of psionic power, led to the Ethereals listing them as a failed race and moving on again. Its why the Vipers/Snakemen were unsuitable.
@Virtual2Viking
@Virtual2Viking 7 лет назад
Love it ^.^
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
Thanks buddy! :)
@Stuurminator
@Stuurminator 6 лет назад
I'd always liked the theory that Annette and the Furies were the four Avatars you see throughout the game, but it looks like I'm going to have to switch up. The sex/class lineup is just too much to be a coincidence.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 6 лет назад
+Stuurminator yeah, that theory I liked too, but if they are ment to be the Furies it is sad that they didn't cater more to it. We'll hopefully know more soon!
@DanielGalllego
@DanielGalllego 7 лет назад
a little theory of my own is that they are suoersoldiers made with ethereal dna and that makes them that powerfull, but also too much expensive to mass products, so the elders themselfs treat them like their descendant and raise them like so, i actually think that they are old, like nearly as ancient as THE elders civ but cause they ARE weapons elite supersoldiers the only way the know yo show emotion is to kill, the hunter may show a little more inividuality cause is ststed that he has lived among humans for a while
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Daniel Gallego Ospina great food for thought Daniel, thank you! :)
@jankeydadon3969
@jankeydadon3969 7 лет назад
seems pretty solid except for how they speak about being woken up. they talk about it like its happened before. and many years in the past. like they've been called apon to deal with some other planets race or something. idk. something to think about. beut everything you said seems to add up aswell
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+mike beezey could be figuratively speaking though - waking up from being human, unlocking their true potentials - dunno, speculations :) We know they were deployed to cull the population of earth and after that put away again (maybe as to not scare the populace, like with the ADVENT troopers being disguised behind helmets)
@jankeydadon3969
@jankeydadon3969 7 лет назад
interesting. i wasnt aware of that. im still new to xcom. the first one ive played is 2, but seeing as they were vague in there "weve been summoned again" monologue that does fit. and that brings me to side more heavily to your theory. cool.
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+mike beezey I just love theorizing about this stuff :D Good to have you in XCOM, it is a really great universe! I've played it since the 90's :)
@nathanielthomson3455
@nathanielthomson3455 7 лет назад
i actually like this Theory
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Unwanted Opinions thanks buddy :)
@houdiniabracadabra6180
@houdiniabracadabra6180 4 года назад
The elder say: you have walked under the humans for too long. After u Kill tue first chosen
@sectoid-with-internet-access
@sectoid-with-internet-access 4 года назад
Actually they say that after lost and abandoned mission (first cutscene when you go to the bridge).
@jan-christophejanousek5211
@jan-christophejanousek5211 7 лет назад
Unfortunately I don't think they are three mutated humans. If you watch the whole cutscene the warlock states the ethereals need them "again" meaning they have been used before. That is revealed to have been the capture of the X-com commander during the base assault (the ethereal states that was their job and they succeeded).This means they were around since the start of the initial invasion they just didn't need to reveal themselves. Bear in mind that although the genetic manipulation of the ethereals might be advanced I doubt they could have done it in a few months (which is how long it took for X-com to fall initially).
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+Jan-Christophe Janousek the Elder never states that it was the base defence, in fact, she says their task was to subjugate the population of Earth, which very well could be the mutated progeny. Unless you have footage that I haven't seen? They had plenty of time after the fall of XCOM to manipulate these individuals. I'm sticking to my theory until more info comes :D Thanks for chiming in!
@YungAndRoyalty
@YungAndRoyalty 7 лет назад
Great theory you might be on to something
@GamekNightPlays
@GamekNightPlays 7 лет назад
+RayKing SoRoyal thanks buddy! I would be pretty happy if the theory turns out to be true! Otherwise, it's still a good speculation :D
@RauschenPauli
@RauschenPauli 7 лет назад
that they are the 3 from the xcom 1 dlc sounds really good. still i don't think they are just humans that are mutated a little. they seem way to differrent. i would rather say they are prototypes of the creations they want to create all their knowledge put into one new species, and as many prototypes they also have some flaws. beeing emotional. one of humans best strengths/flaws. and since they are in a war. why not use them as weapons? after all the aliens are not stupid.
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