xQc Is Stealing Content (and So Are Most Reaction Streamers)

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@LegalEagle 7 месяцев назад

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@randomguy1769 7 месяцев назад

@LegalEagle It's been a while since you did a "laws broken" episode. Maybe you'd like to tackle "The Truman Show," starring Jim Carrey? I eyeballed false imprisonment, unsafe working enviroment, and unlawful surveillance and wiretapping, and I'm not even a lawyer!

@ViableGibbon 7 месяцев назад

Please Do A JFK 1991 Film Review on it's LAW ACCRUCY? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@buttercxpdraws8101 7 месяцев назад

Could you please cover the legal aspects of the Illuminaughtii saga and explain the concept of indentured servitude in relation to her treatment of OzMedia? ✌️💕🌻

@supermarioplushes2517 7 месяцев назад

@cutiefarty 7 месяцев назад

maybe a show review?

@lumdythelump 7 месяцев назад

Literally the phrase "my fans would be bored I talked too much" is indicating that he's using the video that they're watching as entertainment and not fair use.

@emperortransman 7 месяцев назад

And he's admitting that he's boring

@bamers404 7 месяцев назад

and still getting money from it

@avroday949 7 месяцев назад

"When I make my own content I make less money, so I have to steal"

@santanu5892 7 месяцев назад

It's not just the video, it's watching with the streamer and his chat that makes it fun. The video has nothing to do with it. It's same like watching a movie alone vs. Watching with your friends.

@KindredBrujah 7 месяцев назад

@@santanu5892 Sure, but if you're watching a movie (legally) then you generally paid some money for it in some form of another.

@Ole_Rasmussen 7 месяцев назад

"Chat gets bored if I'm the one producing the content on my stream" he admits he can not maintain an audience on his own

@andrewauchter7759 7 месяцев назад

Yeah... I'm not sure that was the brilliant defense xQc thought it was.

@bigguy4x418 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, and like Legal Said, so it every other streamer and reactor, even the popular ones.

@AstraFulminous 7 месяцев назад

I see everyone talking shit. But doubt everyone would apply the complete burden of laws about infringement to some of their favorite RU-vidrs also fairly. Technically we could all do better and to be honest I have been waiting for it.

@Zalzany 7 месяцев назад

Exactly he is admitting people follow him for the free movies and what not not his content he "adds" lol

@chrisray1567 7 месяцев назад

Yea, it’s evidence that his viewers are watching the copyrighted content and not his “commentary”. His viewers probably find his reactions to be distracting.

@yarion4774 7 месяцев назад

Hasan's defence of "90% percent of content creators don't mind." Just doesn't hold any water. You can't infer consent by an imaginary vote of majority.

@_blank-_ 7 месяцев назад

Hmmm... a commie living off the work of others, how surprising.

@drownedharbour 7 месяцев назад

Right? Like, even assuming that pulled-out-of-arse statistic was reflective of reality, that hasn’t really got any bearing on whether or not what he’s doing actually falls within free use or doesn’t. Like, I reckon you could get a whole bunch of people to agree that having to drive the speed limit is a pain and nobody minds speeding in their town, but that doesn’t mean speed limits cease to exist. Never mind that this would still beg the question, what of the 10% that allegedly do mind, then? Even if 90% of people surveyed agreed that it was totally alright to eat Bob’s lunch, that doesn’t mean Bob suddenly has lost the right to his lunch. And thats never mind the fact that I find it quite difficult to believe that 90% of everyone whose work has been used in this way are truly entirely unbothered. I mean, I know there are certainly still finer points and more subtle considerations to be examined in such cases but it just seems the fellow has got little but some very faulty logic to speak for his actions.

@tiffanysandmeier4753 7 месяцев назад

@@drownedharbourI also feel like that 90% statistic was made up on the spot. People seem to think, "It is better to ask forgiveness than permission." That is not true in fair use cases.

@lemiureelemiur3997 7 месяцев назад

@drownedharbour it's shambles all the way down too. A voluntary cross platform opt-in revenue sharing mechanism could "easily" be implemented by YT... But that further antagonizes their position in relation to streaming platforms, because they'll want to factor all the viewers, and streaming platforms don't like that. Forcing it would likely result in less exposure of YT by a considerable amount, so they havent done much other than leaving it to creators to take it to court (The music industry is probably laughing right now). Creators on YT are just hostages, unable to move the Issue forward because it's against YT interest. So in reality they're stuck under the repressive rule of "reputation", because big name Creators/Streamers can credibly threaten their chance of success, maliciously, if "small fish" were to complain about react content. The smaller you are, the worse it is. Not to mention youtube already has its own issues with small creators getting claims / struck by shameless reuploaders, or outright 1:1 frame by frame copied by established creators. Until this gets solved it's eat or be eaten, which love or hate the one in question, really large creators excell at. Crowd pleasing in their bread and butter, and lamborghini.

@harrysiddall3392 7 месяцев назад

Even if they do, that doesn't give you the rights to the other 10% lmao

@benoitverret6722 7 месяцев назад

Hey, don't compare xQC to your dog, your dog is way more comprehensible and a good boy.

@jenniferstine8567 7 месяцев назад

My cats loved to meow back at TV shows. They had great timing for it. It was a lot of fun watching things with them. It was like being on Mystery Science Theater 3000. I'd a cat on either side, quips coming from each of us, and a large collection of B movies. You're right. That's a good dog, especially compared to that guy.

@Just_Pradyun 6 месяцев назад

@@jenniferstine8567 congrats. your cat is more literate and compassionate than XQC

@Stettafire 5 месяцев назад

I thought the dog was a good girl not a good boy? Regardless though your point still stands!

@bigchez2855 7 месяцев назад

"If I talk, chat gets bored" is the most hilarious self own from the most unhilarous unselfaware guy I've heard in years

@MittensZora 7 месяцев назад

Exactly lol, essentially he clearly stated that no one is here for him, just the video

@legofellow120 7 месяцев назад

Clueless

@nothankyou6840 7 месяцев назад

I didn't think of it that way at first, but you're totally right

@dillonhounshell9786 7 месяцев назад

And if someone sues him, they will absolutely use that against him.

@gregorymorse8423 7 месяцев назад

He knows hes wrong and plays it off and doesnt care. He knows the copyright laws better than anyone. He has plenty of lawyers and management working for him. Its merely an act hes playing but totally a bad attitude thats unfair to small creators

@6thwilbury2331 7 месяцев назад

Devin: "You can't just describe what you're seeing, and call it commentary." Sssniperwolf: ...

@SilverLily 7 месяцев назад

SURPRISED I'm not seeing more comments about that given JJJackfilms vs SSSniperwolf has been ongoing for a while (not familiar with xQc so idk much about this particular incident) and being transformative is the whole argument Jack is making.

@CharlieBrown20XD6 7 месяцев назад

Just put a cardboard cut out of yourself going "dude! Cringe. The drip." Over and over again on a loop

@kevinkorenke3569 7 месяцев назад

She was the original queen of the "economy of nothing" that the internet is full of now.

@chocolatMouse 7 месяцев назад

Oh, it's worse than that. Whenever you watch her and she has her glasses on, you can actually see that in the glasses' reflection, she's looking at a white screen and her microphone. The original video isn't even played. She's pretending to react: if XQC is level 0, than hers is -10.

@minimi1 7 месяцев назад

@@chocolatMouse damn, she used to fake play Call of Duty. now she can't even watch tiktoks for the first time

@mohaimenmitul8722 7 месяцев назад

How XQC became this popular will forever remain one of the world's greatest mysteries for me.

@TheSilentWalkerz 7 месяцев назад

Nah not really, his audience are mostly kids

@mohaimenmitul8722 7 месяцев назад

@@TheSilentWalkerz dude, thats even worse.

@morpheus1678 7 месяцев назад

Obviously from ow days

@LostStarzOfTheSky 7 месяцев назад

Overwatch inflicted him upon us

@AdikMusicOfficialTM 6 месяцев назад

xqc funny momment & overwatch esports

@harrysiddall3392 7 месяцев назад

That judge did such a thorough and comprehensive job breaking down exactly why some reaction content is absolutely fair use, and why some isn't. Hats off to her, shes an absolute chad.

@KafeinBE 7 месяцев назад

Yeah I was surprised that this judge seemed very aware of the larger cultural context of reaction content.

@justiceplay3518 6 месяцев назад

@@KafeinBEcultural context? Excuse me, what the actual hell are you talking about?

@crashop3919 6 месяцев назад

@@justiceplay3518delusional people make stuff up and it’s hilarious 😂

@aguywithalotofopinions412 6 месяцев назад

@@justiceplay3518 I think they meant what people in general think of reaction content, since many judges tend to be out of touch

@turbochargedfilms 6 месяцев назад

@@justiceplay3518the context behind reaction content that explains how it stems from, exists within, and influences the larger culture surrounding it (examples in this case would be internet culture, twitch culture, western culture, whatever the hell qualifies as culture that influenced xQc, etc.) Hope that helps

@Bobbybobbeh 7 месяцев назад

You didn’t have to cast viscous mockery on xqc on calling him a gibbering mouther, but you did, and I applaud you for that.

@archmage_of_the_aether 7 месяцев назад

Vicious mockery ≠ viscous mockery

@Bobbybobbeh 7 месяцев назад

@@archmage_of_the_aether It was thick with mockery.

@philipdixon9088 7 месяцев назад

Viscous Mockery. Cantrip, Range 5ft The target takes 1d4 Psychic damage and is Restrained until the end of its next turn, damage increases to 2d4/3d4/4d4 at appropriate level. You barrage the target with a tirade of point blank insults resulting in them being covered in spittle and being so shocked they cannot move from where they stand.

@ThatReplyGuy 7 месяцев назад

@@philipdixon9088Thanks, gonna totally homebrew this!

@Joe90h 7 месяцев назад

@@philipdixon9088 Sounds more like a Karentrip to me.

@SebastianTorres-uz6jq 7 месяцев назад

Imagine going to court and the judge ruling that you have no case cause the defendant called you the king of cringe

@abacus7087 7 месяцев назад

Your honour the defendant called my client the “king of cringe” and mocked his parkour ability as a result my client suffered severe emotional and mental trauma.

@xenonnboy 7 месяцев назад

"objection your honor, as we have shown in exhibit F2, my client is definitively based."

@Benri05 7 месяцев назад

These kinds of people really loves to waste the normal working people's tax money for mundane shit like these.

@herculesmwp7983 7 месяцев назад

@@xenonnboyobjection hearsay

@brettrossi034 7 месяцев назад

Either that, or the judges brain malfunctioned due to lack of understanding of what xqc even said

@LunaManar 6 месяцев назад

Back when tumblr was more of a thing, I ran a fandom blog for a video game I like and reposted fan artwork on a regular basis. I asked every single artist for permission to post their work. If I couldn't source the artist, I didn't repost it. If the artist didn't speak fluent English, I looked up some copy/paste scripts and used those to ask (usually including a machine-translated notation of my own that apologized if the wording/grammar sucked). Out of literal thousands of images I posted to my blog, ONE artist gave me a polite 'no,' and two gave me specific requirements I had to follow in order to repost, which I did of course. 99.999999999% of them, though, were *just happy I gave enough of a crap to ask,* and were more than happy to let me do so, often with a request for a link so they could see it on the blog and even so they could follow it. Asking permission isn't just ethical and a good idea, it will net you new followers and even make you some long-term friends. It might be one of the best ways of getting to know cool people, at least in my (admittedly small-time) experience.

@amazingadrien 3 месяца назад

glad to finally see someone say when tumblr was "more of a thing" and not "back when tumblr existed" because tumblr is in fact alive and well

@SomeKindaSpy 2 месяца назад

@@amazingadrien it's alive, sure. Well, though? Ehhhh debatable. At least it's on the upswing anyway.

@thesocialmediagame 2 месяца назад

To be fair, graphic artists are of the most generous kind. If you try the same with musicians or producers... eeeh wll it goes a lil different

@legateelizabeth 7 месяцев назад

If I had a nickel for everytime a Felix became the biggest name on a video streaming platform based entirely on an audience of 12 year olds, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.

@wilbo_baggins 7 месяцев назад

I never realised this till now.

@LeonardoStupidKenway 7 месяцев назад

Whos the second one?

@wilbo_baggins 7 месяцев назад

@@LeonardoStupidKenway both PewDiePie and xqc real names are felix

@Salted_Fysh 7 месяцев назад

Hot legal take: When a livestreamer leaves for a toilet break, they may employ the infamous "pause video" button while they are aware.

@CraftyVegan 7 месяцев назад

For a lunch break, you can pause while you go and prepare your meal and then you can get even more views while eating it on stream because you can add the “muckbang” tag to it 🤔

@victoriazero8869 7 месяцев назад

Especially for people at Twitch, that sounds like perfect moment for an ad break

@Secretlyanothername 7 месяцев назад

In British English they would call his leaving it running "taking the piss".

@morganseppy5180 7 месяцев назад

Oh no. Hassan explIned very well. Chat can't handle being left alone. And he can't be expected to just not eat... do you expect him to DIE??

@Salted_Fysh 7 месяцев назад

@@morganseppy5180 yes

@SamWal 7 месяцев назад

I can't wait to see xQc react to this video and leave it playing for 30 minutes while he's in the toilet. Peak reaction

@MrLunithy 7 месяцев назад

leave it playing for 30 minutes while he's in the toilet losing the best part of himself for the day.

@emmy_d_dev100 7 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@jacksonwilliams5399 7 месяцев назад

He isn’t above that either, he did the same thing for the meat canyon video that mocked him.

@ReaperEOD 7 месяцев назад

Sorry I missed your comment while on the golden throne, hope everyone enjoyed your comment I provided.

@AlinaAniretake 7 месяцев назад

Isn't that's what Hassan is doing, though?

@1001ant1001 7 месяцев назад

On the other hand it is completely frustrating when obvious fair use of copyright material (e.g. fragments of Disney cartoons in an hour long lecture) will resolve in DMCA strikes without any second thought or consideration :(

@CyberneticCupcake2 7 месяцев назад

If/when LegalEagle can do more on Fair Use/Transformative Use (probably on Nebula), he absolutely should cover harmful and potentially fraudulent copyright strikes on popular streaming sites.

@FourCogs 7 месяцев назад

That's not a spicy ad revenue generating topic sadly.

@SkiDaBird 7 месяцев назад

@YonMai I think it is though. A lot of YT viewers are aware of how complex and easily exploited DMCA is. We all want better, fairer, content.

@mathsalot8099 7 месяцев назад

From what I've heard, Disney is not one of the entities doing most of the copyright strikes/claims (suprisingly.) It's Warner Bros and Universal.

@chaoticautistic7113 5 месяцев назад

@CyberneticCupcake2 I think he already did this, or something similar to this.

@rabonour 7 месяцев назад

What really bothers me about this is that tons of creators do things that really should be considered fair use but get dinged because RU-vid is so overly aggressive about DMCA.

@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 6 месяцев назад

Don't forget about RU-vid's incredibly "efficient" DMCA bans which allow even week-old accounts to report videos that they can claim violate the DMCA.

@laplongejunior 6 месяцев назад

Not about DMCA, about rightholders. The whole point of having accord with rightholders to participate in ContentID is to bypass DMCA entirely, by having complaints fed into a system that favors rightholders and the platform at the expense of the creators.

@alexanderbruwer9363 6 месяцев назад

Except when it's their golden babies like Sssniperwolf

@ianmacdonald9201 29 дней назад

It's better to err on the side of caution as a platform. The alternative is theft on a grand scale.

@quittison 7 месяцев назад

"... a problem near and dear to my heart and, more importantly, my wallet." Yup, he's a lawyer alright.

@TheEDFLegacy 7 месяцев назад

😅

@i-v-l9335 7 месяцев назад

There was never any doubt if his lawyer profession. At least this lawyer is funny, and mostly helpful.

@helloyes2288 7 месяцев назад

lmao

@Daddy-Samy 7 месяцев назад

@@i-v-l9335 You missed the joke

@chrispyy99 7 месяцев назад

@@i-v-l9335 its a joke bro, this guy clearly appreciates him just as much as us!

@antarchy1 7 месяцев назад

If you talk to your chat and they get bored, that means you're boring.

@ultimateskillchain 7 месяцев назад

I thought the same thing! That was quite the self-own

@baydiac 7 месяцев назад

He literally admitted that he has no cult of personality. Usually streamers like him use the defense “well my audience was excited to see my unscripted reaction to this video I’d never seen before”, but he outright said his viewers are only there to watch the video he’s reacting to and have no interest in xQc himself whatsoever. Yikes.

@KallieExperiments 7 месяцев назад

Hear hear

@ross-carlson 7 месяцев назад

EXACTLY my thoughts.

@TheEmbessyNetwork 7 месяцев назад

Say it louder for the people in the back!!

@JBBost 7 месяцев назад

If I knew I coulda filmed myself watching the internet during my meth use days and became a millionaire, I'd be xQc right now

@apexnext 4 месяца назад

You'd be a billionaire, that would be wild. 😂

@randomrandom450 7 месяцев назад

As a french canadian from Quebec. I always find it funny that "xQc" is so big, since adding "Qc" at the end of an online nickname is basically a Quebec meme of a 13yo wanting to tell other people from Quebec that they are from Quebec, combining with "x" makes it the epitome of cringe 13yo nickname. I also wondered how well his spoken english was and since I don't really watched him, I assumed it was pretty good, but seems like I was wrong haha So I really don't get it, I wish I could root for my homeboy, but I really can't.

@HappyBeezerStudios 7 месяцев назад

deconstructed the nick is really just the cringy 13 yo name. The one all of us did when we were young because we thought it sounded cool. Most people move away from that at some point, but it seems like some are forever immature.

@andresmartinezramos7513 7 месяцев назад

@@HappyBeezerStudiosHe does have a brand around it, so I think he might get a pass

@wishusknight3009 6 месяцев назад

He hasn't matured passed that of an obnoxious 13 year old. So it is kind of fitting.

@vuri3798 6 месяцев назад

Oh man, if you knew.... His english is actually much better than his french 😂

@RecordToDeathToBoredom 6 месяцев назад

@@HappyBeezerStudios That's just a matter of his branding being successful. If he had never took off, he'd have begun his maturity journey. Basically, the people play a part in his 13 yr old mindset. There's nothing we can do about these people because they are just the result of a very low standard upbringing. But xQc can just keep taking legal blows and the laws can update so people like him can't just steal content.

@kazedfrench 7 месяцев назад

xQc getting paid millions to sit in his chair and watch videos is the most confusing thing I've ever seen

@VinnieG- 7 месяцев назад

Really? There's a chinese girl that only pushes her face into slices of bread, and she raking in the money as well.

@landonfolken03 7 месяцев назад

Not to mention yelling a bunch of barely intelligible things. It's really sad that he's one of the top paid YTers. Hopefully the next generation is smarter.

@MushookieMan 7 месяцев назад

It's because children have buying power. So advertisers will pay for the most inane shit you've ever seen.

@billieeisenhower406 7 месяцев назад

Capitalism is clearly functional and rewards those who work the hardest.

@barbiincognito13 7 месяцев назад

@@MushookieManthat doesn't apply and make zero sense here.

@thelusogerman3021 7 месяцев назад

I love how "the king of cringetube" is actually written in a full on official court document somewhere

@keystohellanddeath 7 месяцев назад

There was a robbery Supreme Court of Virginia case that has the phrase "a hoax perpetrated by finger" in it. It makes me laugh every time because of Mike Ehrmantraut. The case is Commonwealth v. Barney.

@daveabbymangampoalano655 6 месяцев назад

and a precedent at that lmao

@happycamperds9917 7 месяцев назад

The prototype for the "reaction channel" was Mystery Science Theather 3000, and even they paid royalties to the obscure Sci-Fi films they commentated on.

@grahamstrouse1165 3 месяца назад

That was a little different. MST3K was a proper television show that provided commentary on the unabridged versions of the movies they made fun of. Toho’s pretty chill when it comes to licensing Godzilla & they know the benefit of exposure better than anyone, but I reckon why they’d want a cut when Joel & the Robots decided it was time to spend two hours making fun of & dissecting the artistic genius of “All Monsters Attack.” It definitely was a win-win, though. 🙂

@TeoBranzell 7 месяцев назад

Shoutout to DarkViper for first raising the awareness of how harmful react content is for the original content creators.

@Justacheese 7 месяцев назад

I don't watch that guy, but I agree that he did the right thing.

@newgate-zerohour 7 месяцев назад

I've been following this ever since Jay Exci did a video about it and got into some hot water with Hassan Abi over it. Love to see Leagle Eagle taking part

@WoFDarkNewton 7 месяцев назад

Jacksfilms was on this topic YEARS earlier

@thebigsam 6 месяцев назад

@@WoFDarkNewton Did Jack actually ever talk about legal implications and how this stuff affects the platform? He did call out individuals, but he never put a spotlight on general reaction content. I might be wrong tho

@WoFDarkNewton 6 месяцев назад

@@thebigsam Talking about legal implications isn’t necessarily Jack’s strong suit 😂 he prefers to address things with sarcasm and sass, which he certainly did. He definitely highlighted certain individuals, but I think it was more about the general problem. Someone covered the legal aspect in much more detail at the time, but I don’t recall who

@SirWilliamDoof 7 месяцев назад

Really wasn't expecting a lawyer to drop "gibbering mouther " as an insult. It's a good day.

@peterhurst6782 7 месяцев назад

Kinda makes me want to make an abberation streamer as a villain in a campaign. Probably not a gibbering mouther, but a mindflayer that does non-reaction content of ceremorphosis

@Krypto121 7 месяцев назад

Lawyers are savants of the English language so it's not surprising one would use a term like that when it's appropriate.

@ImLostForever 7 месяцев назад

Because he is... a lot of his fan base would be the same

@bisin87 7 месяцев назад

My guy gave me whiplash from that brutal, tremendously nerdy, burn!

@rkstevenson5448 7 месяцев назад

@@Krypto121 It's a creature from D&D.

@noapld9 7 месяцев назад

I have to applaud the person who wrote the captions for this video for the effort they had to put to translate xQc's uncoherent noises for the rest of us

@generatoralignmentdevalue 7 месяцев назад

Are you sure an actual human put "Chad" in place of "chat" that many times?

@dhhayden 7 месяцев назад

@@generatoralignmentdevaluexQc calls his chat “Chad” and a few other streamers do as well. It’s a meme.

@tetrisdood 7 месяцев назад

"incoherent"

@justiceplay3518 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, and that’s why we should give the editors and subtitlers a huge raise while they tried to comprehend the speech of this total degenerate. Never liked XqC, never liked Asmongold and other reactor content creators. Which seems fair, since they A) violate copyright infringement B) make actual profit off of it C) not actually putting the original name(link I mean) in the description/comments, whatever. The reaction content is legit just contaminated wasteland where streamers/RU-vidrs land in either desperation or in hopes of getting a rip-off of the original video.

@tobylegion6913 7 месяцев назад

@@justiceplay3518 agreed... but what is 'violate copyright infringement'?

@iankester-haney3315 7 месяцев назад

Don't forget, He has the option of pausing and skipping parts of the video. Even on a livestream the streamer can pause playback while taking care of personal needs off camera.

@SunniestAutumn 6 месяцев назад

There's suddenly an unexpected demand for a follow-up, potentially including side-topics like doxing.

@TheNN 7 месяцев назад

A thousand and one red flags went up in my brain as soon as I heard xQc and 'exposure' for vid makers. As someone who has done commissions and work for people in the past, the second I hear "I'll give you exposure for your work" any sympathy or positive thoughts I had about him went completely out the window. 'Exposure' is just a buzzword to avoid having to pay people their due.

@suchnothing 7 месяцев назад

Hearing that always reminds me of that article by The Onion titled "Artist paid in, dies from, exposure"

@LunaticTheCat 7 месяцев назад

As a musician myself, nothing infuriates me more than people/venues offering an artist or creator "exposure" instead of paying them. So many venues try to pull this shit. Exposure can't pay the bill mf'ers!

@christopherjones7191 7 месяцев назад

You mean you can't eat exposure or pay bills with exposure? Have you asked the IRS if they accept exposure?

@seedmole 7 месяцев назад

It's also a harmful form of exposure. It says "this person works for free, don't ever pay them." -- If you really want to give someone "exposure" then pay them the market rate for their services and let them use you as a wage/employment reference.

@lluewhyn 7 месяцев назад

Great, the person can get exposure to a variety of people who will also hire them for free as well? What a deal!

@Thenormies 7 месяцев назад

Your editor somehow found the 1 clip of us NOT talking over dialogue and blabbing which is so often what we’re ridiculed for XD. Great insightful video about fair use. I hope it’s okay if I give some context in regard to how we go about reactions: In the clip of us at 2:10 we’re reacting to the fan-made Dragonball Z Abridged series. The series itself is one that has often battled copyright fair use issues with Toei animation. The creators of DBZA, TeamFourStar, have expressed that they enjoy watching reactions to their fan-made parodies. Our reaction videos to them are 4 years old and none of them are monetized. We do our best to abide by all four tenants of fair use that was discussed in this video. We are often ridiculed for not showing the entire content piece or speaking our commentary over the dialogue of the videos we watch. We never show the full content of what we watch unless given express permission like from Rooster Teeth for RWBY, or public fan-made series like DBZA. It is VERY important to us that everyone supports the official releases and not use our reactions as a substitute for the real video. Our “uncut” watchalong offerings on Patreon do not include a full repurposing of the episodes we watch but rather a countdown timer for our viewers to sync their own copy to react along with us. Hope this sheds some light or gives nuance to other RU-vid reactors similar to us. There’s definitely a proper way to go about reactions and it’s a thing called ‘editing’ that most people just seem to not care to do.

@aryanram02 7 месяцев назад

it was unfair of them to include your clip. i checked out your channel and saw the one peice video, most of it is just you guys talking and discussing about it after showing a small portion of the original content for context. 100% approved and imo transformative content. cheers mate! another playlist from youtube is the "thats cringe" series by cody ko and noel miller, they did similar stuff, showed bits and peices of og video for context and rest was comedy, in your case it was comments and discussion, once again good on yall for being ethical and cheers!

@Yeff365 7 месяцев назад

Reacting videos are in general not "transformative" you're legit leeching of the original work because you're not putting a spin on it, you're just putting your face and adding 20s-30s commentary.

@Tweek08 7 месяцев назад

@@Yeff365It’s not 20-30 second commentary though for those that are attempting to do right by fair use. It’s several minutes sometimes hours of commentary.

@GrizzledBear7 7 месяцев назад

Of all the clips he found, the one with silence

@Parenegade 7 месяцев назад

@@Yeff365says who? You? Crazy you say that when the people who actually create the films and shows they react to think it is and embrace them wholeheartedly.

@Jakers457 7 месяцев назад

I want to meet a reaction streamer in the wild, when they're not in camera, just to see how empty of a person they are

@avroday949 7 месяцев назад

Watch out, they'd record you and silently make faces to it between bathroom breaks

@bobbycrosby9765 7 месяцев назад

"Chat gets bored when I talk" isn't the defense he thinks it is.

@FurtherReadingTV 7 месяцев назад

I can't get over the phrase "watching a video TO my viewers". It's so bizarre and reveals a lot about xQc's warped mindset.

@sleepysera 7 месяцев назад

Reminds me of Ken in the Barbie movie "playing the guitar at you" 😂 I mean I assume his native language is French so it might be an honest mistake but it sounds exactly like the mindset he is exhibiting.

@the_undead 7 месяцев назад

@@sleepyseraI have not watched any of his content, but with what I have gathered from people talking about it online, this is not a translation error and it is 100% deliberate, he knows exactly what he's doing and he is making a half assed attempt at covering his tracks. He's just forgetting that footprints in the mud is not always the way a tracker will find you, and in fact, a lot of the time trackers will completely ignore footprints in the mud because that's very easy to fake

@BillehBobJoe 7 месяцев назад

@@sleepyseraI thought a problem of non native English speakers is being too literal hah

@sjs9698 7 месяцев назад

@@Razorally if anyone's coping & seething here... anyway: keyword is 'react', which obviously doesn't mean sit & watch or leave the room

@jeuce9304 7 месяцев назад

@@sjs9698have you seen a reaction from xqc where he doesn't say a single word during the video? Didn't think so. So is there a words per minute you have to say to distinguish reacting to something from just watching it?

@sunalwaysshinesonTVs 7 месяцев назад

I recall hearing something about famous people being frozen at the maturity level of when they first became famous. Explaining fair-use to XQC is like explaining to a 2yr old why they're not allowed to eat the whole box of cookies. That said, I suppose one way to approach the push-back is let the 2yr old eat the whole box then live with the consequences while rubbing it in their face.

@johndododoe1411 5 месяцев назад

Also explains Michael Jackson's behavior much better than the accusation he was doing those things to lure in underage victims .

@katrinabryce 7 месяцев назад

Another way I've seen some streamers approach it is to tell their viewers to go watch the video themselves on a different browser window, then their own stream is just their reactions without any of the other party's content.

@johndododoe1411 5 месяцев назад

That's another legal way, though I wonder if Oracle v. Google negated that when Google Android's main use of Oracle Java was to tell every Android developer to go get the original in order to do anything!

@DanSanderson 7 месяцев назад

"The chat wants me to not commentate" = The chat wants to watch the original video, so the stream displaces the market for the original. The chat wants you to commit copyright infringement.

@KrakenIsland64 7 месяцев назад

You stole that content from the prosecutors Exhibit A. But I have found that it is Fair Use.

@blarghmcblarghson1903 7 месяцев назад

I think it's fair to say that nobody decent wants Felix to comment on anything.

@thomaskilmer 7 месяцев назад

"The chat wants" is not a legal defense, funnily enough.

@lukasmedici31415 7 месяцев назад

Pretty much what the chat wants is just a watch party which isn't the same as them just wanting to watch the video by themselves. Obv this doesn't make it better or anything It's just an interesting issue.

@raccoonmoder 7 месяцев назад

literal self report

@Steelmage99 7 месяцев назад

I'll give it a shot at predicting xQc's reaction; "He (LegalEagle) is just a hater" "He is envious of my success" "He does it too!" "He just stole _my_ content, by making this video" "He doesn't understand copyright law" "He just cherrypicked some of my videos" "I boost the content creators by watching their videos" " _[rambling incoherent gibberish]_ " Did I miss any?

@LocalGuardsman 7 месяцев назад

He leaves to go to the toilet mid “reaction”.

@clorkmagnus 7 месяцев назад

I doubt it. Unless his team went full brain rot like his chat, he should shut up and ignore this one. Making this any bigger of a drama will potentially have long lasting consequences on his career. Just like Asmong who is also a reaction streamer for the most part, he said sometimes you just need to shut up and let it go.

@jordanstark5924 7 месяцев назад

Could've just skipped to the last one. I don't think I've ever understood a single word this manlet has uttered

@samoth5161 7 месяцев назад

Ignore the video and make an indirect comment or tweet about "haters"

@cericat 7 месяцев назад

Loud obnoxious eating. "He's suing me."

@kingdrofd588 7 месяцев назад

Hasan is lying his sorry arse when he says 90% don't mind They do, in fact mind very much, but as history showed, if they ever tried to defend themselves, they would get hate from fans of popular streamers, it's genuinely appalling, getting robbed while you can't do much about it. You should really watch DarkViperAu's "Why react content harms everyone" series, it's very well made and covers some areas I wouldn't think as issues if I never watched him.

@Hieillua 7 месяцев назад

Lol, I've tried explaining fair use once in a reaction channel comment section. Got torpedoed by fanboys of that channel telling I didn't know I was talking about. Even the owners of that channel liked comments that said that nonsense to me. Now they are one of the clips being used as an example in this video. Amazingly poetic for me.

@reprovedcandy 7 месяцев назад

I'm so glad I managed to get through the first 26 years of my life without knowing this xQc person existed.

@Beegrene 7 месяцев назад

You have lived a more fulfilling life than some, that's for sure.

@clintmcbride7830 7 месяцев назад

I played Overwatch and in the early days I watched a lot of guide and gameplay videos. xQc was always being mentioned and his clips shown........ and he was just as annoying then. But at least he was less obnoxious since he wasn't as big then. Never surprises me what fame can do to an idiot.

@KyuuTomoyaki 7 месяцев назад

Same here. This is the first time I've ever heard of the guy. Kinda wish I never had, but Devin's content is worth watching.

@wizarddragon 7 месяцев назад

I cant grasp how he is so popular.

@SimuLord 7 месяцев назад

@@wizarddragon As a 46-year-old, I can tell you exactly why. Imagine the dumbest kid in school when you were growing up. That's the average today. Or, if there was an intervening generation (as with me as a Gen-Xer watching Gen-Z), the dumbest Gen-Xer in my school would've been an average Millennial, and the dumbest Millennial (who was considered the dumbest "how are they famous?" person on the Internet in 2007?) is the average for Gen-Z. And now the dumbest Gen-Z is going to be the average for the next generation. Eventually your average public school class is going to be basically the people on the spaceship in WALL-E.

@kylee6051 7 месяцев назад

If xQc posts a garbage reaction to this, please sue him.

@the_undead 7 месяцев назад

That would be a very interesting court case that I would absolutely follow

@enemy3508 7 месяцев назад

Might break his brain

@RafiYagami 7 месяцев назад

too late he already did. But he did put a lot of effort into reactin this time

@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863 7 месяцев назад

@@RafiYagamiHe know to not temp fate and mess with the lawyer.

@cringemorecringe4549 7 месяцев назад

He can’t sue him 😂😂😂

@smithrockford-dv1nb 7 месяцев назад

Wow, seeing DarkViper's efforts succeed in inspiring you to make this make me tear up a little. May there be justice one day.

@WKogut 7 месяцев назад

Not mentioning DarkViperAU in this whole conversation is a travesty. He basically started the whole discussion

@tanjeeschuan4999 7 месяцев назад

@Valsorayu 7 месяцев назад

Careful people might randomly start saying he's not a copyright lawyer. Also, Hell yeah!

@Jasonhoods 7 месяцев назад

@@Valsorayulol what?

@bradenculver7457 7 месяцев назад

⁠@@Valsorayuhe’s not though? He’s probably done a lot of copyright law and is an expert, but he was a business lawyer iirc, not a lawyer specializing in copyright.

@Joe90h 7 месяцев назад

@@bradenculver7457 Basically this? I swear there have been videos where LegalEagle has explicitly said he isn't a copyright lawyer. I'm sure he knows his stuff, and it doesn't take a scholar in the field to see xQc is infringing on copyrights, though.

@bradenculver7457 7 месяцев назад

@@Joe90h maybe you’re confusing him with Leonard French from lawful masses who is explicitly a copyright lawyer. I’m fairly confident legal eagle was a corporate lawyer, which inevitably delves into copyright law, but is not limited to it.

@grimsdol4665 7 месяцев назад

"you can't describe what you see and call it commentary" SSSniperwolf is sweating rn

@nopesiedaisy 7 месяцев назад

I would love to see Legal Eagle comment on Jacksfilms' current crusade against SssniperWolf

@KiwyGal 7 месяцев назад

"Bro has a bag !"

@jordanstark5924 7 месяцев назад

*blank screen intensifies*

@mutantraze3681 7 месяцев назад

she’s not even seeing it. She reads a script and the video is added in post. It’s hilarious how dumb people are to watch something that fake and cant tell

@lssjgaming1599 7 месяцев назад

This is how they be making the sidewalks

@TechOutAdam 7 месяцев назад

FINALLY someone is addressing this issue. I'd expect nothing less from LegalEagle.

@Thunterise 7 месяцев назад

Haha what do you mean finally? Lots of people have talked about this my man.

@NiLA_l0l 5 месяцев назад

Yes, for example @DarkViperAU he has a very good series about this topic, well explained and very interesting.

@balazsjakabffy2556 7 месяцев назад

I remember when a youtuber called darkviper something called out all reaction streamers for exactly this: lazily stealing content. This was the same response, they don't care, it's exposure etc. I wonder why is noone suing them as they do look legally culpable.

@dylanboczar999 6 месяцев назад

Because big reactors are the ones that the legal system and RU-vid are designed to *cater to* (not defend against): big bucks and a larger audience will trump the wronged-underdog 90% of the time. Smaller creators simply don't have the resources/time necessary to take effective action against these thieves.

@laplongejunior 6 месяцев назад

In the US it cost A LOT of assets to sue for copyright damages. There's no way a small creator can exercise their rights, because copyright was intended to be fought between publishers, not between a corporation against a single person doing videos by themselves.

@me___5796 4 месяца назад

At the same time, sophisticated commentary gets struck down or demonetized for the slightest use of copyrighted material. There is no penalty for frivolous DMCA notices (unless you lie about being the owner of the copyrighted material, I guess). It is very sad that the burden always falls on the people who are actually doing the work and are the least well-off to handle it.

@Qu4resma 7 месяцев назад

Hearing him reffer to xqc as a "gibbering mouther" was the most perfect thing i've heard in my life and the poor d&d monster didn't deserve it XD

@MeppyMan 7 месяцев назад

I literally read your comment as he said that. My head glitched lol.

@Taintedgod771 7 месяцев назад

I'm writing him into a D&D campaign as kind of vampire.

@NoriMori1992 7 месяцев назад

It's just a shame he mispronounced "gibbering" 😆

@ladyvelkor 7 месяцев назад

@@NoriMori1992 the way most people mispronounce "gif" ;)

@savanabrown5161 7 месяцев назад

Did we just learn that he plays DnD!?

@omaha-republican 7 месяцев назад

Funny/interesting how 3+ seconds of playing copyrighted music is a big deal but playing minutes/hours of full content by someone else for profit can even be argued as fair use.

@syferpolski4344 7 месяцев назад

3s of copyrighted music can be fair use, and often is. The difference is the music copyright parasites have held platforms like RU-vid at gunpoint to shoot first and think later(the system is called ContentID), while video creators have not. TV stations often sign up to ContentID, striking clip usage that would likely stand up to fair use, but most RU-vidrs don't sign up to ContentID

@jonathana607 7 месяцев назад

the main difference is a full team of legal hounds

@MynameisBrianZX 7 месяцев назад

The degree to which you should reuse content without permission or even with permission is still unanswered, so the practical answer is people get their way with money. Hell there are full episodes of more obscure TV shows because nobody could afford to stop it. Game studios let players spoil plots, often with little skill to progress, because the free advertising gets them more customers overall. People are only mad at reacters now because creators don’t benefit in practice.

@CharlieBrown20XD6 7 месяцев назад

Because songs are like 3 minutes dude lol besides I have no problem with song writers making money every time their work is used. You love the song so much you HAVE to have it in your video? Then PAY FOR IT.

@Chillerll 7 месяцев назад

@@CharlieBrown20XD6 the song writers dont even get paid, the creators of many copyrighted songs are dead even. You think Kurt Cobain cracks a smile in his grave whenever some slick bastard gets richer off his music?

@FeetHipWidth 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for going over this, it's valuable information for all of us!

@merchillio 7 месяцев назад

A conversation between you and DarkViperAU on the topic would be interesting. He’s not a lawyer but he has been fighting that kind of react videos for a long time.

@rinkusan978 7 месяцев назад

Damn, the Normies got thrown into this. That example feels so odd since almost all their videos are filled with "reactions" - so much so their audience ATTACKS them for talking too much during their reactions. It's so bad their audience accuses them of missing content from the video they're reacting to.

@evanerra 7 месяцев назад

I was thinking the same thing. Their type of reaction content is completely different from "react streamers." They have always been carful about fair use, edit down everything, and spend more time discussing/reviewing than the content they're reacting to.

@mehmeh8403 7 месяцев назад

Yeah I found that odd. Personally I LIKE the normies because they talk too much so using them as an example feels like a lack of research.

@RileyCourter 7 месяцев назад

And they always have a post discussion about what they just watched. If feels transformative enough to where it isn't hours of silent watching for money.

@stevenightfall6634 7 месяцев назад

To be fair... the never ending stream of BS that usually flows out of their mouths often adds just as much as them saying nothing would have.

@joevictor53 7 месяцев назад

Yeah I don't think people like The Normies or Blind Wave should count. They cut the episodes/movies down to a shorter amount and they spent the end of each video discussing/reviewing what they just watched. XQC's trash

@stancal9249 7 месяцев назад

I do love the idea that some people think "there's no way I can do this, or at least do this profitably, without it being illegal" is a defense for illegal conduct 😂😂

@LoveOverwhelming 7 месяцев назад

I mean, it's the reason small businesses often short wages to their employees, and why we won't raise min wage. Wage theft is the biggest form of theft in america

@Alexander_Grant 7 месяцев назад

@@LoveOverwhelming The worst part is that it's not just culturally accepted, but culturally promoted. Look at the backlash to the strikes that have been going on, it's insane that so many people are so willing to argue against what would be beneficial for them. That and really all of the work culture with the myth that working hard leads to anything is so wild to me.

@LoveOverwhelming 7 месяцев назад

@@Alexander_Grant agreed

@ratholin 7 месяцев назад

Yeah he did bring up Linus at the end who basically said "I lie about products because it'd cost money to tell the truth."

@SeeNo3vil98 7 месяцев назад

@@Alexander_GrantI don’t believe people are against the reason for strikes at least I’m not I personally disagree with how they do strikes like I get not going into work because of union strikes but when they block roads and get in the way of public areas and get shops and schools and doctors closed like normal people are being affected and can’t access services because the people that promised to serve us aren’t getting paid enough there’s better ways to strike than stopping everyone else from doing what they need to survive

@jonathanlanglois2742 7 месяцев назад

The problem that I have with the way that reaction videos are done right now are that they use the entire thing which means that most of the time, the "reaction video" can act as a substitute to the original. I do consider them to be stealing content.

@Nickayz2 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for this. THIS is what I would call a reaction video about someone. But unfortunately, xQc's audience is too young and too undemanding to reflect on his videos.

@Nate9273 7 месяцев назад

xqc is literally the kid that just copied the answer to a math homework, and got pissed when the teacher asks to show the process

@Joe90h 7 месяцев назад

The teacher hasn't, though. It's like if every other kid in the class reported the rich kid in class for stealing another kid's homework, but the teacher decided to ignore it to avoid their wages taking a hit if the kid got expelled.

@pyrokinetikrlz 7 месяцев назад

Nah, he is more like the kid who copies your homework and get better grades than you

@cancerino666 7 месяцев назад

@@pyrokinetikrlz More like the rich kid who copies homework by just taking it from the poor kids and writing his name over it.

@rtyler1869 7 месяцев назад

and was upset that he failed the tests that followed

@ardynamberglow3124 7 месяцев назад

"But I got the answer right, I don't need to show my work!"

@ccbstar 7 месяцев назад

xqc coming for Ethan and Hila about fair use when they have literally set the legal precedent is just. embarrassing

@ebdgr 7 месяцев назад

💯 XQC wouldn't have a job if it were not for Ethan's legal battles...

@huyphan7825 7 месяцев назад

"And to prove you are wrong about my actions, I will use **flips through notes** uuuhhh.... your actions in the past as my... defense. Wait."

@Bacteriophagebs 7 месяцев назад

He's Canadian, so U.S. precedent isn't controlling except as it violates the ToS of the platform he's using. He's also _French_ Canadian and might very well have a hard time understanding the nuances of the legal decisions since English is his second language. Yes, (most) French Canadians grow up speaking both languages and can be considered fluent, but xQc is obviously not one of them. And let's face it, many people aren't actually fluent enough in their _first_ language to understand law.

@mrlarvux 7 месяцев назад

He thinks he won that debate too

@ccbstar 7 месяцев назад

@@Bacteriophagebs he lives in the us so he is culpable for us laws. plus I think he’s just stupid or huffing copium

@the_babbleboom 6 месяцев назад

i wish we could just walk into shops, grab stuff, walk out and say "i'm doing a reaction to the taste of this one month worth of foostuff" and then just nothing happens because it's a smaller store an they would have to file a report through a private third party that also profits from my theft.

@GregStraub42 7 месяцев назад

Calling him a gibbering mouther made my freaking day. Also this seems like a discussion of people having problems with consent, again.

@cd878 7 месяцев назад

Imagine being a grown adult and watching XQC

@Photo0021 7 месяцев назад

Or just anyone with enough maturity.

@romainsavioz5466 7 месяцев назад

Watching him eat and or his empty chair

@cd878 7 месяцев назад

Well if you want to look at an empty chair, you can also watch a Hasan stream

@Valmerix 7 месяцев назад

his among us streams were hilarious

@fredrikhogkvist8093 7 месяцев назад

Imagine being a grown adult, and judging other people for their choice of entertainment and escapism.

@jodybriggs1075 7 месяцев назад

I'll take it as a badge of honour that I've never heard of xQc

@laurencebrown3822 7 месяцев назад

This was also the first time I had heard of Kick.

@jodybriggs1075 7 месяцев назад

@@laurencebrown3822 I wouldn't have a clue about these streaming platforms either. I obviously know the reaction video genre exists. The odd time I might go on RU-vid to watch a trailer for a big movie and irritatingly you can't actually find the original trailer from all the stupid reaction videos. But this is way more insideous. Rich, talentless assholes trawling the Internet for popular videos (made by people with actual talent) that they can steal revenue from. From what I saw it's pretty indefensible.

@HappyBeezerStudios 7 месяцев назад

Last time I heard of anything like that was when ninja went exclusively to mixer. A platform that shut down less than a year later.

@durabelle 7 месяцев назад

Same! Never heard of him, and based on what I saw here I definitely won't be watching anything from him in the future either. I've watched some reaction videos though, but I'm quite picky on what I find worth my time. Musicians, vocal coaches or producers reacting to music is something I regularly watch, but only if they pause often and go deep enough in their explanations. I need to learn something new from them, notice things I don't notice on my own. Another type of reaction videos I watch is Americans reacting to videos about life in other countries. From those I rarely learn anything new anymore, but I enjoy watching others learn too. I will only follow the ones with an open mind though, people who can accept that USA is just one country in a big world, and not the best in soooo many ways.

@richardallen144 7 месяцев назад

Knowing who he is will somehow make your life both better and worse.

@analyons8595 7 месяцев назад

Thank you, Devin (and, if any, your writers), for speaking to people's highest intelligence, and providing a type of entertainment that feels mentally elevating. It feels like you believe in humanity's innate dignity and love of overcoming a meaningful challenge to improve their minds. (I love trying hard to follow what you're telling us, and increasing my power of thought). : D

@olympic-gradelurker 6 месяцев назад

Kinda like how JacksFilms has been criticizing Sssniperwolf for just sitting there like a muppet in her reaction videos and giving no credit to the creator. What's really wild is she doxed him by showing up to his house and posting it.

@krozareq 7 месяцев назад

The only reason they get away with this is because the streamer's massive audience will cause problems for them if they make a stink about it. LEMMiNO must've spent months on that amazingly produced video for some cracked out fool to steal the entire video.

@blank1990 7 месяцев назад

Lemmino doesn't care why would u?

@RahulSharma-ot3wo 7 месяцев назад

Lemmino hasn't said a single word about this whole drama

@royalfun1031 7 месяцев назад

It's mafia

@ik749 7 месяцев назад

@@blank1990 we want others to be justified.

@soocool78 7 месяцев назад

@@blank1990 are you just making shit up to defend xqc?

@JasonFightsCrime 7 месяцев назад

It isn't hard to ask. I asked LegalEagle for permission to use a video clip for a class on rulemaking. He responded promptly, and he was fine with my proposed use.

@floofzykitty5072 7 месяцев назад

I believe most countries actually have exceptions for using IP without permission in educational settings, specifically so that teachers don't have to go to the effort of trying to contact all their sources. It is still nice to ask though.

@craenor 7 месяцев назад

I saw some fantastic art in a comic that I thought my daughter would love, and I loved. I contacted the artist and requested permission to make two t-shirts, one time, in two sizes, so my daughter and I could each have a shirt with that comic on it. The artist was thankful I asked and within my very specific limitations, provided their permission.

@JasonFightsCrime 7 месяцев назад

@@floofzykitty5072 When I was the instructor at police academy, I tried explaining that to the leadership. They wanted permission, and it was kind of ingrained in me.

@hockypockies 7 месяцев назад

@@craenor aww, that's nice! glad the artist was okay with it!!

@isaiahfreeman 7 месяцев назад

No one would have cared if you used it without asking i promise

@doktorwyvern2883 7 месяцев назад

I was not expecting Legal Eagle to bring this level of heat and I love it.

@RaDeus87 7 месяцев назад

I absolutely hate all reaction content, and there is no way to filter it out on RU-vid (AFAIK). It's especially infuriating when you click on a video that turns out to be a reaction video, and RU-vid suddenly deciding that you now *love* that content, and now the feed is full of that low-effort crap.

@blitzofchaosgaming6737 3 месяца назад

You do realize this video was a reaction video right?

@fredgerd5811 7 месяцев назад

I wonder how many people realize that Weird Al, the king of music parody actially asks permission for every parody he does. He probably doesnt have to, because he could probably defend all his work as fair use, but he makes the call anyway because its the polite thing to do and it saves him potential headaches down the road.

@darkwaveatheist 7 месяцев назад

Better still, some artists actually ask him to take the piss out of them. That's respect.

@tatkkyo9911 7 месяцев назад

Your correct that he dosnt have to. Al has always preferred to ask though

@andrewphilos 7 месяцев назад

I've heard a slightly different argument: the ones that comment directly on the original song (like "You're Pitiful" instead of "You're Beautiful") are probably okay, but the ones that are the same song with different, silly lyrics (Like "The Rye or the Kaiser" instead of "The Eye of the Tiger") are probably not fair use. But you're correct that, either way, he does get permission, which is good on him.

@noatrope 7 месяцев назад

@@andrewphilosOr, as Vihart put it once, "in the United States, we have the constitutional right to make fun of people".

@dracoargentum9783 7 месяцев назад

Well, usually saves him headaches, looking at YOU Coolio…

@Donald6309 7 месяцев назад

I'd love to see xQc try to react to this video and see LegalEagle sue the shit out of him.

@jinzok 7 месяцев назад

he will react, just wait till he wakes up

@subliminalvibes 7 месяцев назад

It'll be a simple DMCA takedown and we won't hear about it, but I hope it happens!

@73delgado 7 месяцев назад

I can't wait to see asmongold react seeing as Legal Eagle grouped him in with xQc by showing a snippet of his stream when talking about streamers that steal content. Asmon gold doesnt steal content at least for the stuff that gets posted to his youtube. as for the other stuff he reacts to on stream I really cant say. Fillian would have been a much better streamer to show in Asmons place considering most of her content is just her laughing at other people videos

@flame5391 7 месяцев назад

he won't for sure, 27 min. lil bro not gonna watch allat

@oni651 7 месяцев назад

@@flame5391 well jokes on you he's watching it

@michaelsnow3536 4 месяца назад

Why do people even watch xQc at all? I'd generally prefer my content free of some random blonde dude just staring at a monitor in the corner.

@blaiseburrows748 7 месяцев назад

Not often that Devin makes his personal opinion so viciously obvious, but I like it.

@DanLifschitzEsq 7 месяцев назад

As a copyright professor and litigator myself, I’ve been dying for someone to produce a video (a) on this subject (b) of this caliber. xQc’s position was always laughable, but SCOTUS made it all the more so after this year’s Warhol v. Goldsmith decision, which was the first time the court iterated on the 2 Live Crew case in three decades. Sotomayor stated that if a defendant’s use is commercial and serves the same (or a highly similar) purpose as the original, it’s presumptively not transformative absent a further justification (such as colorable criticism, commentary, or parody). qXc’s reactions are posted for commercial gain and supplant a clear market opportunity for the original videos (since the experience of watching either is equivalent), meaning his lack of sufficient commentary is fatal to a transformativeness defense. Given that the first and fourth fair use factors are generally considered the most important, he’s already roasted, but (as you note) he also flubs the remaining factors by reacting to creative videos closer to the core of intended copyright protection while using the entire works without a proportionate need. If one of the victims of his IP theft walked into my office, I’d take their case in a heartbeat.

@BallisticTech 7 месяцев назад

I don't understand how RU-vid allows it... the Content ID system should be triggered and either allow the original owner to strike the other channel or claim profits from it. Look at what reactors have to do to content from a Disney show. They of course cut out portions. But also mirror it, make it smaller, overlay themselves over a portion of it, mute/transform the audio, remove music, all sorts of stuff. I've seen reactors noting they've had to reupload 6-10 times to not get claimed. Even people doing breakdowns which don't play large portions of the original work get claimed. There also seems to be a bias for some channels. Newer channels often try to copy what they see larger channels do. Cutting at the same points and all the other tricks. But they get claimed when the larger channels don't. It's been suggested that some channels have gotten "whitelisted" and only get manually triggered claims. So how are videos natively uploaded to RU-vid not having the same level of scrutiny? Because they're not Billion dollar companies?

@Grak70 7 месяцев назад

@@BallisticTechthe white-listing argument makes a lot of sense. RU-vid makes the most money off of creators with large audiences, so they’re going to get bespoke, light handed review. Everyone else gets a robot than demonitizes your video if it thinks it hears the word “Hitler”.

@dimebeth 7 месяцев назад

It's very subjective. Why not sue the platforms?

@vishwajeetsingh7270 7 месяцев назад

Have you seen darkviperau's video on the topic, he has made series of video on this topic

@DanLifschitzEsq 7 месяцев назад

@@BallisticTech ContentID is a walled garden. Only certain copyright holders have access to it. Maria Schneider filed a lawsuit over that issue a couple years back, but dismissed it on the eve of trial after having been denied certification of the class action she was trying to lead. I also wouldn’t be at all surprised if RU-vid calibrates the system’s leniency based on how established a channel is. Although ContentID was primarily instituted to placate copyright holders in the wake of the seminal Viacom v. RU-vid litigation, there’s a dearth of case law stating they *need* to have the system in place to be protected by the DMCA, so they have leeway to play around with it and avoid jeopardizing their safe harbor protection - at least for now.

@fssgaming9382 7 месяцев назад

Jacksfilms is currently on a crusade against one reactor sssniperwolf basically the RU-vid equivalent of xqc

@Jaxv3r 7 месяцев назад

Bro watching SSSniperswolf makes the video unwatchable for me, with xqc most of them time chat carries the reaction content, while xqc just stares, eat and go away from the video.

@zachava 7 месяцев назад

@@Jaxv3r"bro is delivering a package"

@kattatonik2356 7 месяцев назад

@@zachava oh hell naw this crusty musty comment, bro said ohhhh noooooo

@Select2Play 7 месяцев назад

Gotta say, SSSniperWolf somehow manages to be worse than XQC. At least sometimes the guy sometimes cracks jokes and stuff, meanwhile sniperwolf just repeats what's on screen and even sometimes just cuts out the original punchline so she can say it herself.

@okzyzz 7 месяцев назад

@@Select2Playher videos are scripted, she’s not even watching anything

@froonamission1013 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for making this video. I have a small youtube channel, in a whole other name, and when I was trying to decide what content I wanted to do, my guts told me not to do reactions. It's such a grey area. While there are ways to be transformative, I found it was safer just to be original. I tried to make one reaction video and it was instantly claimed. Never again.

@johanmetreus1268 7 месяцев назад

It's fairly simple: if you actively analyse or parody the material, you are in fair use. If you are passive with the material, fair use goes down the drain.

@Gaywatch 4 месяца назад

@@johanmetreus1268RU-vid doesn't distinguish between the two, though.

@KittenKatja 7 месяцев назад

My idea for a RU-vid Feature a few months ago was to have something like a split screen. (in very simple terms) One screen is the content (video) being watched, and the other, a bit smaller on the side, above the live chat, is the actual stream. The smaller video controls the bigger video in terms of timeline, and which video is currently visible, works for both VODs and live streams. The user would only be able to see the progress of the video, and the ability to stop both of the videos at the same time. The video's description also has a new section of reaction videos below the time stamps, that changes the small video's source; those videos should not include the content (video) itself, but only the relevant part of their videos: the small webcam footage in the corner from the reaction videos we know them from as of today. A new idea came to mind, and that is for the case of full screen, when that happens, the video is in full screen, and the small one is a draggable little video that defaults to top right. The controls the small video has over the content (video) is controlled by a script RU-vid provides to capture the keystrokes. This would enable the reaction streamers and reaction RU-vidrs to view content that is already available on RU-vid without risking copyright strikes, or have the need to censor anything in the video, since the original, which survives such violation strikes, is the source of such violation strikes. Only then, it would also not matter what xQc, Hasan, and others do in their (RU-vid) streams or VODs. (off-platform(RU-vid) it would still matter) I would say, this is an idea trilogy; it started in SomeOrdinaryGamers, then to someone else, and now here, each time some ideas added.

@johndododoe1411 5 месяцев назад

Tik Tok has a major feature like that . However note that dragging around a window doesn't work well on a smart TV .

@KittenKatja 5 месяцев назад

@@johndododoe1411 Yeah, the smart TV would have to use the corner settings instead, which defaults to the top right corner.

@None-lx8kj 7 месяцев назад

I find that many live streamer's defenses come down do "Do you know how hard this job would be if we actually did it the right way?"

@dylanboczar999 6 месяцев назад

Moneymakers often use this to try to excuse breaking the law. Remember when phone companies said it would be too much effort to actually enumerate all the charges they were billing their customers for?

@aame6643 7 месяцев назад

I hope xQc "reacts" to this video so LegalEagle can wipe the legal floor with him

@hanzohattori007 7 месяцев назад

he will, and legal won't do anything.

@christineherrmann205 7 месяцев назад

💯

@battle_toast 7 месяцев назад

That would be a huge financial loss for Legal, lawyering is expensive, there'd be minimum payout and not enough to cover the first weeks of discovery, let alone if the case went all the way to trial in.. 2 years time.

@dragnbreath1 7 месяцев назад

It might be worth it just to set precedence which will make it harder for people to do videos like that and get away with it

@AlexDenton0451 7 месяцев назад

@@battle_toastwhile you're right it's also funny to imagine.

@HappyBeezerStudios 7 месяцев назад

The claim that chat gets bored if he pauses and comments too much is basically admitting that chat thinks his content is boring and they would prefer to watch the original video unmodified.

@WoFDarkNewton 7 месяцев назад

25:13 "Just ask permission! (and receive it!)" Hot damn, you ARE a lawyer XD

@andrewshandle 7 месяцев назад

The fact that he wanted stream himself watching the Dark Knight is probably all you need to know about how much the guy cares about this stuff.

@brianpaulandaya 7 месяцев назад

"...and accused his critics of being envious of his success." Never followed or watched xqc but this one sentence combined with shifting blame to his fans in the chat to his editors uploading the video in question on RU-vid really tells me what kind of personality this dude has.

@notadev1590 7 месяцев назад

It's like Sssniperwolf saying "because I'm a woman". It doesn't address the criticisms being made, deflects the blame and, detracts from women that actually are facing sexist attacks. If you truly believe you're in the right, it shouldn't be hard to articulate why. Right?

@decibike487 7 месяцев назад

This was amazing, thanks so much for this!

@averyeml 7 месяцев назад

And here’s the thing- I didn’t ever get around to watching My Cousin Vinny UNTIL you reacted to it. A good reaction gives enough to make someone want to seek out the original (assuming it’s good and not a mocking react)

@user-gl5dq2dg1j 4 месяца назад

I watch a few vocal coaches (They teach enough about technique and theory that I can say I've learned a couple of things, not enough that I can sing anywhere other than the shower but it gives me a deeper appreciation for singers.) and I am grateful that they almost always put the link to the video in the description so I can watch the uninterrupted video. I generally only watch movie reviews if I really know the movie.

@soopahfly6692 7 месяцев назад

The thing is, xQc doesn't really care. He gets paid a lot and his audience generally tolerates him stealing. He has nothing to add so he makes noises so at the minimum, he just doesn't want to get banned. He doesn't care if he's stealing unless it hurts his bottom line. His sympathetic (to a point) audience makes it easy for him to brush off criticism because unless something drastic, or legal, happen, he'll keep trucking.

@GAMEOVER-yy6zj 7 месяцев назад

He'll start caring when people drag him to court.

@jdk7278 7 месяцев назад

Luckily someone can sue. Don't they say $250000 per infringement?

@juanpabloochoagalvan9018 7 месяцев назад

He´ll start to care once someone that can match his wallet for legal fee´s sue him. He has no case, it will only be a fight of attrition until he can´t push it more.

@blurry7672 7 месяцев назад

@@jdk7278 and he said he will gladly pay however much the creators feel that he stole from them, as long as they reach out to him. is it scummy still, yes, but suing him won't even dent his pockets.

@cgi2002 7 месяцев назад

@@blurry7672actually it will, as co-defendants will include the platforms, and its upto $250k per offense, each individual view counts as 1 offense potentially and the platforms don't want that liability so rather than risk going to court and fighting it, they'll drop him and leave him with all the liability. Other platforms pay attention and go "sure he may have a large audience and we might get that, but he is also likely to get us sued, and we can't afford that risk". The reason no platform has dared take a large scale "fair use" case to court yet is the liability that happens when they lose would be insane and there is a very large chance they could lose since fair use is not a solid concept in the law (and some countries don't have it at all).

@AuditTheAudit 7 месяцев назад

This is an issue I have personally dealt with from both sides of the perspective for many years. The foundation of my channel is built on a balance of adding nuanced and contextual information to videos that I did not create. Fair use has been a major aspect of my channel from the very beginning, and my team and I have worked very hard to ensure that all parties are respected and acknowledged. Tracking someone down to obtain their permission to use their content is often the most difficult part of making a video for my channel, so it would be nice if others could pay the same respect to the content we create. Thank you for making a video on this topic. It was very educational and top notch as always!

@legofellow120 7 месяцев назад

Pog

@DarkBiCin 7 месяцев назад

Not the channel I was expecting to see here. Keep up the awesome work!

@pocketflies 7 месяцев назад

Love your videos ATA!

@gregorymorse8423 7 месяцев назад

A channel that xQc has reacted to even.

@smithamith7795 7 месяцев назад

I love your videos ATA and your strides to keep law enforcement accountable

@justiceplay3518 7 месяцев назад

Man, at least someone else pointed out this issue, other than @DarkViperAU. Feels like there are still sane people within this platform.

@MyCoolMac 7 месяцев назад

We need a crossover with DarkViperAU on this

@OtherMomo 7 месяцев назад

Arguing that they had to take breaks for food and bathroom stuff is a moot point because the technology exists to halt the pre-prepared video in a single moment until the streamer returns It's called pausing You can also neo it while making commentary so the video doesn't get ahead of you

@LyonManes 7 месяцев назад

xQc said that "my stream would get bored and leave!" for this kind of thing. Really dumb excuse.

@Ericb1957 7 месяцев назад

I mean it's telling that all of xQc's 'defenses' basically relate to the fact that it would hurt his bottom line, so it's fine if he doesn't do it. As Devin said many times it's a moot point anyway because the act of streaming the video live could well invalidate any sort of fair use defense.

@snaxicakes 7 месяцев назад

Well put! It's what everyone else does...! It makes sense to put a BRB screen up, because he's literally NOT THERE.

@the_garniiics 7 месяцев назад

Could also switch to his own content when he's gone. Such as him doing the worm on loop

@TheJunnutin 7 месяцев назад

xQcs sorry that's a bit mangled, but it's the best I can do right now 😅

@SeanTanktop 7 месяцев назад

Gotta say even remotely comparing @TheNormies to xQc is one thing that would get your case thrown out of court. They are talking all the time, giving commentary, doing really impressively filmed skits and mostly their videos reflect as such. You found one clip, outta context (from YEARS AGO), and compared them to bullsh*t streamers like xQc, which they are not. In fairness, this a great video over all and I'm sure The Normies would actually agree with nearly all of it, but whoever edited that is completely full of sh*t and should be held in contempt. @LegalEagle

@joevictor53 7 месяцев назад

Yeah considering he's a lawyer, it's kind of a joke that he's included them in this and tried to claim they do something they definitely don't

@JeshuaSquirrel 7 месяцев назад

The reaction video used in the LE montage was also from a creator who doesn't object to reactors using the videos so it could be argued the footage used by The Normies was with permission.

@maximilian7894 7 месяцев назад

well said

@Sinnathan 7 месяцев назад

Well said Sean 🤘🏽

@TheSvmurai 7 месяцев назад

common Sean W

@lirich0 7 месяцев назад

I love how the channel-provided captions spell chat as Chad, truly a Chad move

@adankpancake 7 месяцев назад

he refuses to respect the content, so ive chosen to refuse to respect him

@BigSteve1997 7 месяцев назад

I wouldn't put the Normies on the same level as others. They get yelled at by comments for talking too much sometimes

@iwantcake7703 7 месяцев назад

So does xqc 😪

@theshlauf 7 месяцев назад

@@iwantcake7703 That's why I watch neither. But Normies' format is way different (and way better) than xqc. xQc reactions are just group viewing sessions where he might talk. Normies reactions designed specifically for commentary.

@iwantcake7703 7 месяцев назад

@@theshlauf can't disagree but content isnt "good" or "bad" as it appeals to specific audiences

@ashuri599 7 месяцев назад

Quite literally the same argument as xQc's lmao

@danieljohn560 7 месяцев назад

@@theshlauf Well the format is always going to be better on react specifiic content vs a variety streamer. Theres tons of react content for a reason, because its not all the same.

@lordcola-3324 7 месяцев назад

I really whish someone would actually take xQc to court over this.

@emkstr 7 месяцев назад

My guess is in cases where it appeared the original creator had the resources or appetite for litigation, he quietly paid a retroactive licensing fee and a continued license or royalty agreement to make it go away. Because if one case against him succeeds, all his content is endangered.

@bigguy4x418 7 месяцев назад

And every other streamer and reactor.

@neilbiggs1353 7 месяцев назад

I'm curious what happens if xQc tries to do a null reaction to this video...

@bobfg3130 7 месяцев назад

@@luissuazo3684 No. If he doesn't have an argument some deals might be made with the lawyers to get a portion of the revenue instead of a standard fee. He probably paid the moment he gets a notification.

@AtomicBuffalo 7 месяцев назад

Imagine a class action :)

@risel56 7 месяцев назад

On the topic of fair use, I'd love to see a video on Games Workshop's zero tolerance policy on fan works. It killed so many great projects and I've been trying to figure out if they're legally able to do that, and what's stopping other big companies from adopting it down the line as well. I know it's a video that'll probably never happen, but I can dream.

@markstewardson4006 7 месяцев назад

Losing TTS was a real shame. I agree it would be interesting to see.

@VioletEmerald 3 месяца назад

Definitely worth exploring the legalities and fair use nature of fanworks in a video!!

@foodforfaeries 7 месяцев назад

One way you could do blind reaction content on a livestream is to have help from someone who isn't going in blind, who can select sections for you to react to maybe.

@caleb8659 7 месяцев назад

LOOOOOL "GIbbering Mouther" That's amazing. When LegalEagle goes into insult territory you know it's bad.

@brianjones7943 7 месяцев назад

Calling him a straight up DND monster makes me like Mr Eagle more, hope we get to see him delving dungeons at some point!

@christineherrmann205 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught and loved that.

@colinlee6683 7 месяцев назад

Makes me wonder if LegalEagle is a rules lawyer... :)

@thomassilia7306 7 месяцев назад

You know it's bad when a Lawyer gets so mad he insults someone instead of stating facts that make them look bad

@narazil 7 месяцев назад

"I think my dog could offer about the same level of incisive levels of commentary as qxc" The level of savagery in this video towards QXC is unmatched

@lilymarinovic1644 7 месяцев назад

I remember a while back Devin's dog just suddenly interrupted one of his videos. It was the cutest thing ever. I would love more doggy content on LE (maybe call it Legal Beagle or something)

@nilsragnar1347 7 месяцев назад

25:37 LEMMiNO (they guy who made the JFK doc) recently posted a Q&A where he said he's not okay with the "reacting" of his content.

@WilliamW1979 7 месяцев назад

The My Cousin Vinny video was a really good one because it wanted you to watch My Cousin Vinny again ... I already watched the movie and loved it, but understanding what made it so good from a legal perspective and the time that went into it just made it better. I didn't even know you did a piece where you spoke with the original writer, that one looks very interesting now. But my point is that by doing commentary right, you draw people into wanting to see something to understand where it came from because you are showing parts of it that make it great or not so great that make you want to see the whole thing for context. Thanks for the good work!