Yamaha R1 vs Ducati 1299 Panigale S | Visordown Back-to-Back Test 

Panigale is drop dead gorgeous...

Yamaha R1 cost £15,000 Ducati cost 27,000. The difference is £12,000 not £5000.

Update: Ducati has confirmed the fan had failed on the bike we tested, so the 1299 Panigale S wouldn't usually get as hot as ours did.

Reviewing a standard R1 vs a Panigale S? Man that's a cop out if there ever was one.

I have the 1299. Not too hot in the summer. A lot of attention everywhere you go.

This video was so good…I took notice of Visordown for the first time. Steve just killed it !!! This is still by far the best one till date.

great review as always...thanks Steve! really enjoy your no bs assessment on bikes getting straight to the facts...I base my motorcycle purchases on your reviews

I'm 68 just bought an FZ 09, don't need anything else, real world real time license keeper.

In Design Ducati Wins By Far!!

Classic Italian engineering, the light starts playing up but with that style it wouldn't be enough to put me off

The R1 has the best value for money!

Do we have any feedback of the Down Shift on track please ? Is it good ? I've tried it on the road it's just amazing

FYI Your link's broken, mate.

The review was great, in regards to the editing though, the background music was way too loud, had to play back the video a few times to hear things I missed.

This is a really interesting way to provide a review! Well done! You give an everyman's review here on RU-vid, and link back to your own site for the race oriented review (which any huge fan is going to be eager to check out). I'm a fan! I like this format much more than motorcycle.com's 99% video review with a final verdict of "oh guys, you'll never believe this, for the 1000th time in a row it was so close you have to go to the website to look at the final score cards."

These 2 bikes are World's most beautiful bikes which I want to owe.

Great honest review.

Love Ducati!!!

I almost always give like to your videos, but to claim boldly both R1 and Panigale are the best two, without mentioning Aprilia... Well, sorry, it needed to be in this mix.

It would be great to see some dyno figures from the european spec bikes - the S1000RR seems to beat everything else in all the US tests!

Very good review, I really did like the average person approach. Keep up the good work.

Excellent video, thank you.

The background music is so loud compare to the review. Poor production quality

Excellent report. Thanks.

why test the S version vs the "normal" r1?

>Auto-blip downshifts didn't convince as they are a "leap of faith" >During deceleration, auto-blip makes the 1299 more stable Jeez, make up your mind already

Wow wow wow! This guy could give a review!

Very informative vid. Thumbs up

uhh link to full review is broken or incomplete

The Ducati is nice but they are just way to overpriced

Cool bikes. I love my Multistrada though, it's still a beast but much more pleasant to ride.

I've noticed a lot of people commenting on the R1 as having "not as much mid-range torque as we'd expected". In the review you said "opening the throttle, it doesn't quite unleash overwhelming acceleration"...surely that's a good thing? All reviews I've seen of the Ducati, people say it's too aggressive and not practical for every day road use. It seems the R1 is perfect for that.

Uhhm.. just for clarification, you do NOT hold the throttle on for the downshifts. You shut off the throttle and begin braking while also downshifting, without the clutch, and it AUTO-BLIPS the engine/throttle. This is "clutchless downshifting". You would never hold the throttle on during deceleration.. doesn't even make sense.

For his review, use the link below this video, to take you to our webpage where you have to search for the video, which ends up being the exact same video that you just watched where I say look for the link below to see his review....

Despite manufacturer claims, the BMW is still the strongest in power by a fair margin in either US or EU trim

what's the name of the soundtrack of that video?

i love the ducati 1299 panigale s

Never rode a crossplane in my life, honest question, how is in downshift, the same than a normal? Are vibration the same? I always thought about crossplane as a big complication, like a turbilion in a watch and I am in doubt...

Makes no sense to me. Nearly 2000 miles on my 1299. Down shifter is amazing (don't know how I lived without it) and engine is as smooth as any other bike I've had. Could tour on this bike easy (limited range would be a problem I guess) and it actually looks good.

Beautiful machines , no doubt about it but , very uncomfortable also. I will stick with my Diavel Carbon ;)

Great video. How do you know so much about both bike's? Do you own both?? Lucky man. lol

The battle between two magnificent lawnmower sound

Nice review on the 2nd and 3rd best sports bike RSV4 RF 😎♋️

So what would say would be a good bike for every day street riders. Because I'm stuck on what to get between these two

Im yet to find a smooth road surface in the entirety of the United Kingdom.

Should be a comparison between the R1M and the 1299S... The price difference between the 1299 and R1 is almost $10,000!

Ducati and Mv has always been more beautiful but Japanese have caught up with this exotic looking beast. New R1 is wicked gorgeous.

i just have to look at the Duc to know which one I'd choose. It's bloody drool worthy, while the Yamaha is merely cool looking.

I love the Panigale. But the fact that a 1000CC bike is even being put up against a 1299CC bike speaks volumes for the R1.

No doubt why they used this same Ducati in the movie- Burnout. Amazing movie on Netflix and I suggest you drop this video and go Wacth it right now.

u misunderstood the quickshifter on downshift. ur supposed to shut the throttle completely before u downshift. on downshift the quickshifter act like an auto-blipper eliminating the need to grab the clutch lever and blip the throttle and minimize the rear wheel wobble, so you can focus on corner entry. it means a lot to average riders on the track and its fun too on the street. it makes u feel like a pro

you drive both on the track ?! why you don't show us the track times ? i want to see who's faster on track.

"It takes much more of a leap of faith to go down without shutting off than going up"? I reckon you might have missed the point of, or don't know how best to use an auto blipper. Quick shifters enables wide open throttle up shifts with no need to clutch or momentarily rolling off the throttle to assist up shifting. Auto blippers enable clutchless down shifting without need for 'rev matching' right hand throttle blips/inputs while also braking. Put simply, brake with your right hand, downshift with your left foot, take the corner. That's it, no need to "shut off" the throttle because you're not on it when you're setting up corner speed and entry. If you can't work it out then you're probably right, it's not for you.

Verry good

Bikes like the R1200 GS are popular for a reason. While I can understand the purpose of these bikes and would love to have them in my garage, they have no real purpose on the public road.

did he say the r1 is 14 k and the pani 27 k ? cant be , but what are the prices in england ? in holland the r1 is 20.9 k euro and the pani 1299s is 29,9 k euro . are we paying most again ?

God, these HP claims are so ridiculous. They never tell you that number is to the crank. Put these bikes on a good-quality, calibrated dyno and I guarantee they're in the 170's.

I thought this was a 1000cc class the Ducati is 1300 for fuck sake

Cool bikes 👍

Both great bikes but for me Ducati hands down.

The S1000RR is astonishing .. like a well dressed UFC fighter.

St the end of the day r1 one is a good bike but I would pick the penigale any day

Great review- music was distracting made it hard to hear

i own one of these and have riden em both . keep in mind that both are way too fast to use the power 90% of the time , but the pani , although les then before , will give you a smile even comuting with its awesome grunt and instant throttle . and the guy says the head of the pani is more stable , well i drove r1s since forever and now a duc , but this bike has the least stable head of all of them . not bad for amusement , as it makes you feel like your pushing it like gary McCoy but was that the idea ?

It worth it to buy it Ducati 1299 more then another motorcycle the look fast and off Corse is made in Italy where the best staff in world is made

not only did you tested a 100 vs a 1299 but you didnt use the R1 m , how is that fair ?

That Duke is fucking beautiful

should've compared Pani S with R1M

a very updated zx10r is being revealed next month, I think it will kill all as it is sbk based and Kawasaki is currently murdering in sbk.

what does shutting off mean in English? does it mean down shift or shifts with out clutch what is it cause I'm confused

guess we're no longer talking about the old kings. Busa, ZX14

I Love 1299S😃👍

which is a good city bike?

its like mazda vs ferrari but if i have choicei buy r1 its much better handle and cheap chaging oil plugs etc and could cell easy...ducati s made for rich highclass people who does not ride bike everyday for work...now i had suzuki gsxr and prefered for my opinion

keren nih motor

no one seems to mention that the Ducati needs 300 more CCs to complete the same task. I get that it has 2 cylinders, but 1000cc is 1000cc.

Link doesn't work: 404 :(

I am a hardcore superbike lover but I've had enough with these bikes. They are fun if you are young and your body can take it but its pointless to put yourself through pain riding a superbike in a city.

Can't hear the commentary, need to mix the music quieter

So one costs double what the other one costs and the more expensive one was the best. Thanks Visordown!

So, 27,000 - 15,000 = 5,000? Interesting.

first off the bmw put more power down then the r1, the r1 is a great but lacks on power to the ducati ....(and i know this cause i own all three..r1m ,s1000r ,1199s abs ,rsv4-rf the real champ)

Looks fast: Ducati Fast: R1

The r1 got 2hp more than bmw s1000rr my ass . Did you see a dyno result of them both?

You've worked out the price difference of these two incorrectly

Ducati Panigale 1299s is pure Wild Animal. All the time You have rodeo ride like on savage, unpredictable beast. Cost so they dont want to be for everone... If you counting fuel and $$$ buy other bike... Simple. ...

It's all personal preference. I wouldn't buy another Yamaha having had a number of bad experiences with their customer services. The Ducati is more special, and I found the r1 to be a very uncomfortable, throttle felt like a light switch and the brakes were very wooden. Buy what you like guys.

Shit test! Should have used the R1m !!!

4k 4th gear and expect a lot power maybe 5th at 20 ? common don't pull a uber

Show very good top 👏👏👏👏👏

nice apples to oranges comparison! >:|

you are comparing a ducati to a yamaha.... let that sink in... thats like comparing honda to porsche...

Yamaha r1 standard can go 300 km but panigale can't

I prefer 1299 Panigale S :D

who win ?

Dear Ian Falloon or To Whom It May Concern:Hi ! I'm Andre a Ducati fan! Thanks in advance for taking the opportunity to serve me. I'm sorry to tell you about my difficulties with my Ducati's but I'm not feeling good about this. This story is kinda like the fall of the Roman Empire when they say history repeats itself. But this Ducati Odyssey is unfair to me. Ducati has just gotten away with everything and they've had there way with me and they've just man handled me and I've paid the price and it appears it's not worth it anymore. I feel violated like a women too ashamed to admit she's been raped and ganged banged by a bunch of thugs and hates to admit it was a pleasure getting screwed by all those thugs who gave her tough love. You know her and those thugs have a thing going on! You know that puts her in an awkward position and in juxtaposition to her situation is the similarity between her situation between myself and my 1299 S Ducati. Maybe you may know the pleasures of a slow screw and the consequences but whenever you're done having your fun with me what do you do? If you just can't help yourself? Anyway, you know they say it's a thin line between love and hate. But can you please hear my story and make suggestions for my Ducati story and problems? The 1299 S Ducati Panigale is good product and like a sore dick it can't be beat. However I trust you, and could you please forward this correspondence to a Local Ducati representative or anyone worth mentioning who can make a difference in my life who can give me a case number and is genuinely concerned with my Ducati issues? I just recently purchased a Ducati 1299s Panigale 2016 model and it appears I have been having problems with it perpetually totally shutting off, whenever I feather the clutch to turn, or slow down for a stop sign, or in stop in go traffic on the street or on the freeway. I have not had the opportunity to take it on the track because I don't have a budget for track gear and expenses. Nevertheless my Ducati 1299 S also slips out of neutral into 2nd gear for no reason. I also have to squeeze the clutch all the way down to the maximum to engage it into another gear or into neutral . I feel I can't verify my story because I don't have the money in my budget to purchase video gear to confirm my story and to seek approval from those who should be concerned, because of the high purchase price of my Ducati 1299 S and associated bundled packages and services connected with taking care of my bike. However whenever I go to the ducati1299.com/ducati-1299/23518-1299s-shutting-off.html message blog I see other grievances by other Ducati Panigale 1299 S owners with similar complaints they're all are very disappointed because they can't get any satisfaction from the Ducati dynasty and I'm starting to think that purchasing a Ducati was the biggest mistake of my live. I don't know why numerous Ducati 1299 S Panigale owners would ruin the reputation of the Ducati dynasty and say it's an illusion of grandeur and hoax of an elite motorcycle engineering brand at it's finest but it is what it is. Sometimes you pay for what you get at a bargain price and it's truly a value. Now comparing a Porshe to Genesis just won't do but maybe it just might be better if Porshe doesn't stand and deliver up to it's reputation to it's fan base. But anyway I previously had purchased a 899 Ducati 2015 Panigale that I had numerous problems with it, and it took over 1 year and one month to finally get 2 dealerships to finally fix the clutch and associated parts and equipment, then after it was all said and done. I recently traded in the 899 Ducati Panigale 2015 for the up graded 2016 newer 1299 S model Panigale. But now whenever I take my 1299 S Ducati Panigale to the dealership(s) they state they can't duplicate the problem which is what they said previously about the 899 Ducati Panigale that I owned until they figured it out and repaired it. And as soon as I leave the dealership I'm not even a block away and my 1299 S Ducati Panigale has a history and pattern of shutting down whenever I ride it immediately after I get it back from the dealership(s). And the dealership is closed or I'm too far away to go back again immediately to the dealership and get help and I'm perpetually inconvenienced to bring my bike back into the Ducati dealership to explain my sad life story about my sad 1299 S Ducati Panigale story. I also make other arrangements to have a buddy follow me to the dealership to drop off my bike or to get a ride back home or give me a ride to the dealership to pick up my bike or take a bus or train to get back and forth from from the dealership for transportation and it appears that the dealership is numb about providing me with reliable transportation in the meantime, while my Ducati 1299 S is being repaired or tested or checked out for problems, and it seems like they could give me a loaner bike and I never received my Ducati identification card for a free tow to the dealership. And you know I just can't afford a Ducati shop manual or repair manual or pdf or DVD or USB thumb drive and I doubt the shop manual even would address my concerns that I have regarding my 1299 S Ducati Panigale. I can't find any solutions on Facebook or Twitter or You tube or any books or magazines to help me with my concerns or complaints or problems with my new 1299 S Ducati Panigale. However I have taken my 1299 S Ducati Panigale to Del Amo Motorsports in Redondo Beach, California and Westlake Ducati in Thousand Oaks, California I purchased the bike new on October 7, 2016 from Del Amo Motorsports of Redondo Beach, California. I have perpetually called Ducati of North America and it appears there is no understanding, wisdom, experience and way to get the 1299 S Ducati Panigale problems fixed in the Ducati dealership network or company. At this point I just want another Ducati Panigale 1299 S Panigale 2016 or a 2017, that works without any problems and has a satisfaction guaranteed and I want to enjoy my bike and the ride. I'm looking for a local Ducati representative or anyone to help me with any of my Ducati needs, or concerns that can be addressed immediately. Please tell me how I can get a local Ducati representative or anyone to best accommodate me and my schedule, and respond accordingly, with the goal to make sure that this is the easiest and most pleasant experience I have ever had in my life. I know that whenever you have a leaky roof you call the roofer when it's raining and you can see the rain falling from the ceiling and it creates a puddle and it wouldn't make any sense to call the roofer to repair the leaking roof after the water leak stopped leaking but what can I do in my situation similarly with my Ducati 1299 S Panigale? Just restart the bike and give it to the dealer over and over and say fix it? And the dealership similarly replies accordingly over and over and over that they can't get the bike to act up, nor duplicate the problem just call me when it rains so I can find and see the leak. In my opinion it is just seems fairer to just give me a new 1299 S Ducati Panigale with no problems and stop wasting my time and the associated grief. Again if you have any suggestions please let me know. Enough is enough, this has been a totally unacceptable experience with Ducati. Ducati does not have any RU-vid videos worth mentioning that addresses my Ducati 1299 S Panigale concerns and they don't have certified lessons on any website for Ducati mechanic certification and repairs for Ducati 1299 S Panigale owners.You can call me by phone 323-786-0135You can mail me at:Andre Bolla POB 452734Los Angeles, CA 90045You can email me at :andrebolla@hotmail.com Again thanks again for everything in advance.Wishing you the best during this holiday season.P.S. Again thank you for taking the opportunity to serve me because owning my Ducati has been a living hell and a nightmare! Please turn everything around so that this is a sweet dream. Please give me favor and blessings from Ducati. I'm looking for a Ducati representative and mechanic striving to achieve the best client service and the best client experience. Oh and by the way it's never to late for a new start and another solution is for Ducati to just pay off the loan immediately since they can't duplicate the problems with my bike. You know Ducati has been so unfair and such an ass about everything. What would you do? None of this is making any sense to me. This is crazy! I want to put an end to this because someone could get hurt in an accident if the 1299 S Ducati Panigale shuts down unexpectedly at the wrong place at the wrong time. And I'm not just talking about hurt feelings.Sincerely,Andre Bolla Sent from my iPhone

5000??????

ducati a pleno !!!! ni hablar.

The R1 are better on street or trackday riding, the Duc have problem with heat coming from the header flow to your leg ouch.. For the price no thanks.

At the end of the day... my choice would still be the R1..