Yamaha Super Tenere vs Tracer 9 GT | ADV or Sport Tourer?

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Having tested Yamaha's Super Tenere and Tracer 9 GT models I have a look at the two and give my thoughts on the great debate over whether adventure motorcycles are best, or whether a sport tourer will provide just as much fun.
Obviously that's going to largely come down to the type of riding you do, with an adventure motorcycle offering some additional flexibility if you do decide to get a bit more adventurous, but you may be on the fence on whether that's for you.
So are adventure bikes the new default choice, or is something like the Tracer 9 GT actually a great alternative for the more road focused riders?
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@jonbriddon1566 2 года назад

I’ve got a Super Tenere and I have owned 30 bikes over the years. The Super Tenere is the best all rounder out of the 30. Perfect for cruising, great for off road gravel riding, brilliant smooth and powerful engine, awesome comfort and it will last forever as it is made of granite.

@davidmallia628 2 года назад

Bullet proof, and on the heavy side, topwise also.

@derrickmurphy9859 Год назад

Yes I'm on my 2nd one had a 2013 and now a 2019 .A great machine very reliable and will take you anywhere.

@bobridestwowheels 10 месяцев назад

Super Tenere has the advantage with it’s shaft drive.

@MotoJournoKris 10 месяцев назад

Yea that's a big win for many riders.

@rainsadventures8367 Год назад

I went from a tracer 900 to a Super Tenere. I spent so much money trying to make the tracer something that it wasn’t. It’s not a powerful bike and it’s long term comfort is just not there. The Super Tenere is the all around champ from Yamaha that does a lot of things well.

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

Tracer 900 or 700? The Super T definitely wins on comfort, but I'd have said the 900 won on performance, although I do like triples.

@saphinq9989 8 месяцев назад

T900 is a powerfull bike bro xD

@newtonfrazer4096 2 года назад

Love my Tenere. Best all around bike I have ever owned.

@alwinbenjamin Год назад

Thank you sir. 🙌🏻👑

@rugby3874 2 года назад

Super Tenere is the best and most reliable motorcycle I ever owned.

@williammahaffy4642 Год назад

Great video! Agree with all. Just got an older model S10 and still feeling out the Unified Braking System to see how well I can load the front tire for corner entry. I learned quite quickly that it is a vastly different platform than my previous 500cc, lighter bike but traded up to the S10 with trips/destinations in mind that require a big tank and mile-munching capabilities. Can't wait to really give it a good go! Of note, I sat a Tracer9GT with the OEM seat and I would rather get a colonoscopy. It was awful for my frame and ergo. Would have had to immediately drop £500 for a custom/comfort seat to make it rideable for more than 50km.

@ComfyDadShoes Год назад

I’d take the S10 purely for the fact that it’s more complimentary to my DR650…. More room, better wind protection, better passenger comfort. Great winter/highway bike!

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

That would be an awesome combo!

@2ride_along Год назад

that was actually a really good review

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

Thanks!

@Yamalover78 Год назад

👍🏻 Nice one... I am actually thinking 💭 and comparing exactly between the two bikes. Probably one of the straight review how they are similar and very different. Thanks

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

Hope the video was of some help!

@jasgsxr2726 4 месяца назад

I'm looking forward to picking up the Tenere 900 , now make it Yamaha it's way overdue !

@MotoJournoKris 4 месяца назад

That would be some great competition for the Triumph Tigers!

@RetiredTSgtUSAF 11 месяцев назад

I have a 2023 Super Tenere and was surprise to see that it has to run on 91-95 octane gas, talk about expensive.

@MotoJournoKris 11 месяцев назад

Same recommendation as the Super Adventure, GS, Tiger 1200, etc.

@f42un84u Месяц назад

On flat roads riding steady can use 87 octane. The ECU will detune engine. Expect loss of power. Off road or sporty riding needs 91+. I get 55mpg USA.

@MaxFromSydney1 2 года назад

Thanks, Kris. Would it be fair to say the riding position for the Super Tenere is bolt up-right, but the Tracer 9 needs a slight forward lean for someone around your height? This might be a consideration particularly for older riders.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

Maybe just a little bit, but I wouldn't have said it was a big difference, especially looking at some of the photos sitting on the bike.

@butchcassidy9125 2 года назад

Very interesting comparison, Kris!! I have a Tracer 9 GT and use it a lot on quite bumpy bitumen sealed roads. Do you think the Super Tenere would give a better ride quality on bumpy roads ?

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

Honestly, probably not. I preferred the fork setup on the Super Tenere in some situations, but I think the Tracer 9 GT was better overall.

@user-sw2lv3zp6o 2 года назад

Different bikes, really. Very different engines. I like the shaft on the older one.

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 года назад

Yeah, it is nice to have it, especially if you are tired of lubing the chain all the time. :) Drop by when have time.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

Yep they are very different machines really, but there's quite a bit of overlap, especially for those who may never actually go off-road, but feel like an adventure is the must have choice these days.

@Geshmaal 2 года назад

Love a good shaft

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 года назад

@@Geshmaal Sure. A very important thing.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

@@Geshmaal lol

@Jtwizzle Год назад

Super ten seems awesome its just so big and heavy. Fully kitted out for touring/adv with a rider its well over 800lbs.

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

Yea that's the problem with all the big ADVs, once you add all that, they end up pretty hefty.

@equivokal Год назад

Who considers the weight of the rider when comparing bikes 😂

@Jtwizzle Год назад

@@equivokal Yeah, such an ignorant thing to do!

@EM-eg3qc 9 месяцев назад

Can anyone here compare the Verseys 650 to the Tracer and also the ST? . I know these are all about 300 cc's apart. I am 6'02 240 lbs. I am looking for commuting with comfort so I am not escluding the bigger biles like the ST. People commute on Harleys every day in the midwest which does not have a lot of "Twisties." I rode the Verseys 650 at a demo day. Great comfort but seat pushed me forward too much, fely slightly cramped. I have a ton of questions but am interest in purchasing a bike and getting your feedback. Thank you! I am leanong towards one of these bikes.

@MotoJournoKris 9 месяцев назад

Been ages since I've spent any time with a Versys 650, but the Super Tenere should certainly feel more roomy in that comparison. You can always look at a comfort seat, as they usually add a bit more padding (and height) and should flatten out the seat a bit, just depends what's available for the 650.

@EM-eg3qc 9 месяцев назад

@@MotoJournoKris I started looking at seats for the Verseys. I did not locate one designed for taller riders or to have less of an incline. I am aware of the comfort seat on the Tracer. Thank you for the response. I just need to find a used Tracer and Super Tenere to test drive. I can make my decision then.

@g.bjumpsbashing3062 2 года назад

hey mate...great vid.thanks. i have kawasaki z650 2021 with bridgestone battlax bt 016 pro hyper sport. 160/60/17 - 120/70/17. my question is. how much air pressure i need to put. (psi) in kawasaki manual say.. 32-34 psi.. but i have bridgestone tire...not stock tires. you can tell me bro.. thanks. (im not racer..drive slow...sometime fast...😁. now summer...in my country 35 degree (C)

@trevorstellrecht6116 2 года назад

Same pressure regardless of brand will be fine.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

As Trevor says, you should be ok running those pressures on any tyre. I normally run 32 front 34 rear, which has been recommended on a number of my bikes. Some tyres I do find are quite sensitive on pressure when it comes to comfort. Like 1-2 PSI can be the difference between a harsher ride and much better comfort. On my Daytona I could tell if I had too much tyre pressure in them the first speed bump I'd go over like that. Tyre companies will also generally just refer you back to the manufacturer recommendation.

@g.bjumpsbashing3062 2 года назад

@@MotoJournoKris thanks alot mate

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 года назад

Perfect comparison. Which one has the better stock screen? :) Thanks man and drop by.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

I'd probably give it to the GT honestly, although I preferred the highest setting and ease of adjustability.

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 года назад

@@MotoJournoKris Thanks Kris. :)

@solidsnake3861 6 месяцев назад

if the tracer had shaft drive it would be perfect for me

@MotoJournoKris 6 месяцев назад

That seems a sticking point for quite a lot of riders.

@lcdubs7847 Год назад

Love the Tracer motor, but the 17" front wheel is just too small. 19 or 21 is the way to go.

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

I'm guessing they kept it 17" because it's so road orientated. Be cool to see a triple-cylinder ADV out of Yamaha though. To compete with the Tiger 800s.

@lcdubs7847 Год назад

@@MotoJournoKris Yes, a Ténéré 900 would be awesome.

@Jtwizzle Год назад

Yes its because it is marketed as street use only.

@fifiandmax 2 года назад

I find my S Tenere noisy and vibrations into arms over long distance however I much prefer the shaft drive and 19 inch front wheel and larger tank and proven reliability

@is3260 8 месяцев назад

Try Lucas oil stabilizer for motorcycles. Add first then fill oil to recommended total quantity. Dry sump hold some oil in engine. Use MA2 motorcycle oil 20-50W in climates above 60 F, 10-40W below 60 F. Change fluid every 2K miles until 10K. ST engines have tight tolerances and takes long time to wear in. Took until 10K miles that ST engine smoothed out and got quieter. No more valve tapping. Shift much smoother. Engine performance went up.

@yayoi1 4 месяца назад

Yamaha has all but discontinued the S10. It seems like a no-brainer to release a CP3-powered adv bike to compete in that segment, what's Yamaha waiting for?

@MotoJournoKris 4 месяца назад

Bit of a head scratcher there honestly. Maybe just a slow development process, or focusing on the R9 first? You'd think the ADV would have a lot more sales potential than a sportsbike though.

@bassbender7847 2 года назад

I had a 2019 super tenere and I found it too heavy. I like hustling a bike through the mountain roads and I didn't care for its handling because of it's weight.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

I was honestly surprised at how well it could be hustled through twisties, but it's a bigger ADV at the end of the day, so you trade some of that ability for the longer travel capabilities.

@derrickmurphy9859 Год назад

Yes these big cc bikes are heavy.

@davidmallia628 2 года назад

As good as they both are, the 1300 is too heavy, and uninspiring. The tracer, too much of a sport bike, no 19 inch front wheel, but, maybe the best choice between the two. A GS boxer is the middle road for all aspects of touring, sport, adventure, comfort, etc.

@MotoJournoKris 2 года назад

I'd be interested in testing out a GS to see how it compares.

@miroslavkulisek810 Год назад

Která z těch dvou je lepší uvažuji o super tenere 1200

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

Really depends what you're doing. Adventure the Super Tenere is a clear winner, where the Tracer is pure road, and sportier too.

@miroslavkulisek810 Год назад

@@MotoJournoKris musím si to dávat do překladače vět neumím váš jazyk jezdil bych jen silnice ofroud né jezdím s ženou ale jsme dost těžší takže super tenere 1200 bude lepší volba už kvůli obsahu 1200?

@MotoJournoKris Год назад

@@miroslavkulisek810 All good, I'm doing the same! The 1200 might be a better choice there, as it's a bit roomier and more comfortable in that regard.